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Tech News: 2021-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

There is a Wikipedia app for KaiOS phones. They don't have a touch screen so readers navigate with the phone keys. There is now a simulator so you can see what it looks like.
The reply tool and new discussion tool are now available as the "Discussion tools" beta feature in almost all wikis except German Wikipedia.

Problems

You will be able to read but not edit twelve wikis for a short period of time on 23 March at 06:00 (UTC). This can also affect password changes, logging in to new wikis, global renames and changing or confirming emails. This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 March. It will be on all wikis from 25 March (calendar).
Syntax highlighting colours will change to be easier to read. This will soon come to the first wikis. [1]

Future changes

Flagged revisions will no longer have multiple tags like "tone" or "depth". It will also only have one tier. This was changed because very few wikis used these features and they make the tool difficult to maintain. [2][3]
Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015 this was moved from wg* to mw.config. wg* will soon no longer work. [4]

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16:51, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help with a FAC

In case anyone watches this page, could they review this FAC which is on the way to fail for lack of input? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:31, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 March 2021

News and notes: A future with a for-profit subsidiary?

Gallery: Wiki Loves Monuments

In the media: Wikimedia LLC and disinformation in Japan

News from the WMF: Project Rewrite: Tell the missing stories of women on Wikipedia and beyond

Recent research: 10%-30% of Wikipedia’s contributors have subject-matter expertise

From the archives: Google isn't responsible for Wikipedia's mistakes

Essay: Wikipedia:The Free Encyclopedia

Obituary: Yoninah

From the editor: What else can we say?

Arbitration report: Open letter to the Board of Trustees

Traffic report: Wanda, Meghan, Liz, Phil and Zack

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Tech News: 2021-13

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Recent changes

Some very old web browsers don’t work well with the Wikimedia wikis. Some old code for browsers that used to be supported is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. [5]
IRC recent changes feeds have been moved to a new server. Make sure all tools automatically reconnect to irc.wikimedia.org and not to the name of any specific server. Users should also consider switching to the more modern EventStreams. [6]

Problems

When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split. It might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. [7]
Some translatable pages on Meta could not be edited. This was because of a bug in the translation tool. The new MediaWiki version was delayed because of problems like this. [8][9]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 March. It will be on all wikis from 1 April (calendar).

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17:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Editors can collapse part of an article so you have to click on it to see it. When you click a link to a section inside collapsed content it will now expand to show the section. The browser will scroll down to the section. Previously such links didn't work unless you manually expanded the content first. [10]

Changes later this week

The citoid API will use for example 2010-12-XX instead of 2010-12 for dates with a month but no days. This is because 2010-12 could be confused with 2010-2012 instead of December 2010. This is called level 1 instead of level 0 in the Extended Date/Time Format. [11]
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Future changes

PAWS can now connect to the new Wiki Replicas. Cross-database JOINS will no longer work from 28 April. There is a new way to connect to the databases. Until 28 April both ways to connect to the databases will work. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech.

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19:38, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Phallon Tullis-Joyce

Hi! Could you return the content from deleted page Phallon Tullis-Joyce to draftspace Draft:Phallon Tullis-Joyce? She was just signed by OL Reign and should achieve WP:NFOOTY by this summer. Thanks! Seany91 (talk) 07:55, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Greetings, Seany91. Are you sure you don't want to write the page anew? The old one was kind of stubby. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:09, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I wasn't involved in the previous page (at least I don't remember doing so), but checking out the content is probably easier than starting from scratch, no? (At least IMO...) Seany91 (talk) 11:54, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

OK, done then. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:22, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Seany91 (talk) 08:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Global watchlist - Update 9

Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script and the Global watchlist extension:

Hi everyone. As I noted in the last issue, I received a grant last year from the WMF to develop the global watchlist script into an extension. That extension has now been deployed on Meta. Visit m:Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings to get started.

That grant has ended, and I have requested another grant to continue development of the extension, and figured subscribers of the newsletter about the user script might be interested. You can see and comment on the grant request at m:Grants:Project/DannyS712/Continued work on GlobalWatchlist extension - if you support this, I hope you'll consider endorsing the request.

Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:28, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-16

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Recent changes

Email to the Wikimedia wikis are handled by groups of Wikimedia editors. These volunteer response teams now use Znuny instead of OTRS. The functions and interface remain the same. The volunteer administrators will give more details about the next steps soon. [12][13]
If you use syntax highlighting, you can see line numbers in the 2010 and 2017 wikitext editors when editing templates. This is to make it easier to see line breaks or talk about specific lines. Line numbers will soon come to all namespaces. [14][15][16]
Because of a technical change there could be problems with gadgets and scripts that have an edit summary area that looks similar to this one. If they look strange they should use mw.loader.using('mediawiki.action.edit.styles') to go back to how they looked before. [17]
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Changes later this week

There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

The user group oversight will be renamed suppress. This is for technical reasons. This is the technical name. It doesn't affect what you call the editors with this user right on your wiki. This is planned to happen in two weeks. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.

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16:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

discussion: move Bitcoin SV to its own article

In June 2019 you wrote that reverting the deletion of Bitcoin SV should be discussed on the article's talk page.

I just wanted to update you that I have created the talk section move Bitcoin SV to its own article

torusJKL (talk) 12:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment

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Your article got mentioned in a podcast

I was trying to learn a bit more about paleotempestology from the Climate Scientists podcast and 'your' article on paleotempestology got mentioned in the latest episode :). FemkeMilene (talk) 15:49, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reference Femkemilene. Is there a written record or something of that podcast? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:11, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Not that I'm aware of. My stint of gardening lasted 50 minutes, so I only know that it was mentioned before minute 51. FemkeMilene (talk) 16:18, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 April 2021

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Opinion: The (Universal) Code of Conduct

Op-Ed: A Little Fun Goes A Long Way

Changing the world: The reach of protest images on Wikipedia

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Tech News: 2021-17

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Recent changes

Templates have parameters that can have specific values. It is possible to suggest values for editors with TemplateData. You can soon see them as a drop-down list in the visual editor. This is to help template users find the right values faster. [18][19][20]

Changes later this week

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21:23, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

UST Baccalaureate Mass

Hi! UST Baccalaureate Mass article was deleted in 2017. I think you decided on it. I am planning to recreate it though. Would you help me find the old contents of that article? Are they still around? Thank you! Pampi1010 (talk) 18:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Greetings, Pampi1010 It is still around but being almost entirely unsourced I am somewhat reticent at restoring it. Also, do you have sources that address the reasons it was listed for deletion? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm recreating it right now. If you have time, you can check it here: Draft:Thomasian Welcome Walk. The 17 out of 25 sources are independent sources. I wanna see the deleted article, if possible, because I think it has some data that I want to include in the new article. I hope you can... hmm.. somehow publish this draft? Since it has gained significant sources? though if not, I can still improve on it. Publishing it might just attract other editors to add information. Thank you!Pampi1010 (talk) 13:44, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

I've put it to User:Pampi1010/UST Baccalaureate Mass. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh! I am sorry, I got confused. Thank you! Hehe. Anyway, could you help me publish this: Draft:Thomasian Welcome Walk. Thank you so much! I believe that article has enough resources to be published. It also had a separate article before but it was trasferred or merged. So I just cant publish it using the same name. Thank you so much! Pampi1010 (talk) 14:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

You may want to ask at WP:AFC. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:43, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

TFA

Thank you today for Quelccaya Ice Cap, "about the second-largest (after Coropuna) ice cap that currently exists in the tropics. It lies in a sparsely populated area of the Eastern Cordillera of the Peruvian Andes and like many ice bodies in the tropics it is retreating. It is comparatively well studied, since beginning in the 1970s both its former extent and its present-day ice have been studied. Ice cores taken at Quelccaya have been used to reconstruct past El Niño-Southern Oscillation states and to infer that the Little Ice Age was a global phenomenon. As a biological curiosity, some birds have been observed to nest on the ice cap."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:58, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-18

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Recent changes

Twinkle is a gadget on English Wikipedia. It can help with maintenance and patrolling. It can now be used on other wikis. You can get Twinkle on your wiki using the twinkle-starter GitHub repository.

Problems

The content translation tool did not work for many articles for a little while. This was because of a bug. [21]
Some things will not work for about a minute on 5 May. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This will affect the content translation tool and notifications among other things. This is because of an upgrade to avoid crashes. [22]

Changes later this week

Reference Previews will become a default feature on a number of wikis on 5 May. This is later than planned because of some changes. You can use it without using Page Previews if you want to. The earlier plan was to have the preference to use both or none. [23][24]
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Future changes

The CSS classes .error, .warning and .success do not work for mobile readers if they have not been specifically defined on your wiki. From June they will not work for desktop readers. This can affect gadgets and templates. The classes can be defined in MediaWiki:Common.css or template styles instead. [25]

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15:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Source to use

[Source] JoJo Eumerus mobile (main talk) 19:57, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-19

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Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 May. It will be on all wikis from 13 May (calendar).

Future changes

You can see what participants plan to work on at the online Wikimedia hackathon 22–23 May.

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15:08, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Articles using GVP links in vnum format

A tag has been placed on Category:Articles using GVP links in vnum format indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 14:54, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Laguna del Maule (volcano)

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for June 6, 2021. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 6, 2021. Congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 13:33, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

There are some newly published articles here, which I planned to apply over the Christmas holidays. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Andrew Govender Mr South Africa 2012.jpeg

Hi there, I note that "A page with this title has previously been moved or deleted. If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below." To that text ""13:04, 28 February 2021 Jo-Jo Eumerus talk contribs deleted page File talk:Andrew Govender Mr South Africa 2012.jpeg" - the reason for me starting this talk page. I was unable to contest this at the time. I understand that the picture was deleted, however, do not understand why the content was deleted. I would like to recreate the page which was deleted and believe did not need to be deleted. Please can you assist in helping me understand how to get the wiki page back - can I recreate the page with a different picture? With thanks and best regards, RSAAGCLUB (talk) 22:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Greetings, RSAAGCLUB. The thing about someone sending a picture via email to you is that the copyrightholder - usually the photographer - needs to license the image.

For "content" you mean Andrew Govender I think? Well, this discussion determined that the topic didn't meet inclusion guidelines (WP:SIGCOV mainly). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:21, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Jo-Jo Eumerus!

RSAAGCLUB (talk) 23:23, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-20

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Recent changes

There is a new toolbar in the Reply tool. It works in the wikitext source mode. You can enable it in your preferences. [26] [27] [28]
Wikimedia mailing lists are being moved to Mailman 3. This is a newer version. For the character encoding to work it will change from UTF-8 to utf8mb3. [29][30]
An earlier issue of Tech News said that the citoid API would handle dates with a month but no days in a new way. This has been reverted for now. There needs to be more discussion of how it affects different wikis first. [31]

Changes later this week

MediaWiki:Pageimages-blacklist will be renamed MediaWiki:Pageimages-denylist. The list can be copied to the new name. It will happen on 19 May for some wikis and 20 May for some wikis. Most wikis don't use it. It lists images that should never be used as thumbnails for articles. [32]
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13:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-21

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Recent changes

The Wikimedia movement has been using IRC on a network called Freenode. There have been changes around who is in control of the network. The Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts have decided to move to the new Libera Chat network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a migration guide and ongoing Wikimedia discussions about this.

Changes later this week

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17:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)