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Surface Flow Reedbed

Hi jkwchui, thanks for taking on the reworking of the treatment pond images. The explaination at the talk page ( http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KVDP&redirect=no#Reed_beds) refers to changes that need to be done on the images by Slashme; ie http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Surface_Flow_Reedbed.svg , ... For example: the excess blue lines are the several blue lines for showing the water level, ... The idea is to create 3 images that resemble as much as possible each other, while maintaining the main differences. That way, the differences in which they differ are much more visible and the images are more clear. Please state what you lines you don't understand from the text and we can work from there. KVDP (talk) 13:16, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done updating graphics; learnt alot about reedbeds :) See treatment pond. Jon C (talk) 21:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey jkwchui, The image looks very good, it also very useful for comparing the systems. Nice work. I wonder whether the image is a snapshot from a 3D file ? If so, perhaps that you could upload the 3D file to google warehouse ? I have a collection there (AT CAD Team) and I would like to include it if so. KVDP (talk) 15:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Heya - no, it's a drawing from scratch (I paid attention in my perspective class :) ) Sorry! Jon C (talk) 17:44, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, just checked out that picture, and it's absolutely brilliant! Great work! --Slashme (talk) 13:05, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Empire of Brazil

Hi, Jkwchui! Any chance you might take my request at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop#Empire of Brazil? It's very, very simple. Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 19:33, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The orthographic maps do not open correctly in Illustrator. After fidgeting I could make the corrections but MediawikiSVG does not recognize the change as valid. I can supply a PNG through a screen capture, but a SVG is beyond me and my tools at the moment.

Well, it wouldn't hurt trying. Let's see how it goes, then. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 21:59, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So, did you made it? Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 12:21, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lecen, I think I misunderstood you. Is a raster PNG an acceptable solution for you? Jon C (talk) 18:28, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We could see how it goes. Perhaps it's enough for what I want. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 20:20, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

		The Special Barnstar
		Thanks for the steadfast and great help with the Empire of Brazil's map. It is very much appreciated. Best wishes, --Lecen (talk) 16:07, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You deserve this one too, thank you very much! --Lecen (talk) 16:07, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the kind words. Just doing what we can to make the world a better place. Jon C (talk)

Thank you!

Hello Jon! Thank you so much for the barnstar, it means a lot coming from a fellow "Wikigraphist". Let me also welcome you to the Graphic Lab! Your skills and efforts are always needed, and always appreciated here. I hope you find it as fun and fulfilling as I do. Thanks again and welcome! -- Orionist ★ talk 15:16, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Diplomatic Relationship Maps

I tried using the app. but have no idea how tat works.

Just needed Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Map_workshop#France–Monaco relations inorange instead of red.

Also, can you remove the dutch antilles from this file if possible? "File:Indonesia the Netherlands Locator.svg"

dont know if this is possible with the long name but can you decrease the map at Belgium-Congo relations

France–India relations also needs the territories to go as they are incomplete

Thanks.(Lihaas (talk) 15:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)).[reply]

I was trying to undertand the software but all this coding is giving me a headache. Is there a version ready to suse tha i can download somewhere?(Lihaas (talk) 15:59, 30 December 2010 (UTC)).[reply]

France-Monaco recoloring: Done
Dutch Antilles Removal: Done
Belgium-Congo: don't have time ATM
France-India: don't have time ATM
App: it is basically a plotter of colors. The easiest way to see how it can suit your needs is to replace the text in the big box with af, 100, and then ask it to generate a world map (SVG) for you. The resultant map is one where Afghanistan (af) is colored green - probably too bright a green, but you can adjust the color by looking at the step 1: color range. For a more complex and relevant example, try af, 100 (on 2nd line) za, 0. You should now see Afgh in green, and additionally South Africa in red.
Graphic App: you can also try this app.

Jon C (talk) 18:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vectorization of New Flyer Logo

Hello Jon! I just browsed through the company's website and located this PDF which contained the vector version embedded in it. Then, I used Inkscape to open the PDF file and extracted the vector logo. --JovianEye (talk) 20:21, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Democratic party of Albania

Can you help me with this request? Thanks --Vinie007 12:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First of all i want to thank you for your help with that logo :D. I could find a high resolution logo but may this one will help (Please respond on my page, thanks) --Vinie007 16:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, may this is usefull --Vinie007 16:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talk page per request. Jon C (talk) 17:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oke forget that logo than, you helped me enough with File:Logo-DemocraticPartyAlbania.svg and this file you made is fitting really nice into the infobox. If you can help me with File:PDIU logo.JPG or with the Albanian governement logos (these really needs urgent attention. Thanks --Vinie007 19:11, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vinie - I can do the PDIU logo for you, but I don't have the time or interest to vectorize a long list of government logos. Jon C (talk) 19:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jon, that would be really nice. I understand that you haven't the time for that long list. Maybe you can do only File:Keshilli i Ministrave i Shqiperise..JPG because it is the main logo of governement (Original). --Vinie007 20:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The PDIU logo is done (see graphics lab thread). The new request, with the braids and intricate details on the logo, is a substantial commitment that I cannot take on now. There are other graphists who like to do insignias and emblems, so you may want to post it on the graphics lab request page. Regards, Jon C (talk) 20:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really thanks, I will do that, but can you add to the PDIU logo the PDIU letters (in Blue ([http://cdn1.beeffco.com/files/images/candidates/69a7b2d3a70235d7c3760acd211e17b5.jpg fromer logo) that was used first by them) because so it isn't really useful. But again really really thanks :D --Vinie007 20:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help - text added to PDIU logo. Jon C (talk) 03:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I owe you :) --Vinie007 14:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mitik

Can you help me with the Ministry of innovation and ICT? If you want to do it, it would be great. It's just a [[:File:Mitik-logo.jpg|Basic E with a black shadow beneath it]. An experienced incscape user can make this really nice. Thanks :D --Vinie007 15:39, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The gradient in the logo is complex. It was probably made by rotating a path in pseudo-3D with an added bevel. To recreate it well would require reverse engineering both the path, the original colors, and the pseudo-3D parameters used (not trivial). It may be worthwhile for you to write them asking for the vector, or at least a much higher resolution version that can be directly traced. Jon C (talk) 16:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They don't release it, thats the point --Vinie007 19:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you fix the AL in the File:Levizja Zgjohu.svg file --Vinie007 15:01, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Regards, Jon C (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about the fond, it's great so --145.53.241.152 (talk) 19:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Art sprint and pi unrolled

You asked on the biology page about possible projects for the art sprint. I didn't immediately think of a biology one (it requires a fair amount of thought and planning from a biology author before it is really ready for an non-biologically-aware artist). But I did have one idea: File talk:Pi-unrolled-720.gif#Radians. In a nutshell, the idea is to make a relatively minor change to that animation changing the radius from 1/2 to 1 and the circumference from π to 2π (I don't really know whether this would be controversial, but at least to me the reasons for it are pretty sound and in line with the mathematical tendency to deal with circles of radius one). The intro (where it lines up the circles) would probably best be changed to somehow visually emphasize the radius a bit more than the diameter—details of that sort are, I suppose, best discussed at the talk page for the image or WT:MATH. Kingdon (talk) 02:08, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kingdon - Thanks for the interest. Yea, I expected there to be quite abit of laying out the track before the sprint (it's tentatively in June), which is why I posted on WP:biology early. And my sense is that many of the graphists have a science bkg (I'm a chemist with a mol bio BS), so it may not be as daunting to bridge the gap as it seems.

As to the pi animation, I think it's a valid request for the graphics lab illustration or photography workshop. Given it's a raster image, the latter is probably a better bet. Jon C (talk) 03:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UK plug image

Glad you like it! --Slashme (talk) 13:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2010–11 Albanian Superliga

Can you maybe vectorise 2010–11 Albanian Superliga logo? It's current logo is really ugly :P --Vinie007 18:04, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really thanks, now the File:Kategoria Pare official.jpg is left, can you do it too? --Vinie007 06:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I can do this. I'll check it as taken in the graphics lab. Jon C (talk) 22:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

3-D Dodecahedron Flat-fold Wikipedia Logo Handout

Hi,

I apologize for taking so long to respond to your post. I'm a MSU-Bozeman (Montana) Campus Ambassador and these have been the last two weeks of classes for Spring 2011, so I’ve been a bit busier than normal (I also work on campus in the library). Thanks for your patience.

If you think you can generate something that “looks like the wikipedia puzzle” then your idea of a single character on each face sounds great.

I was going to try and create a mock-up over the summer, --literally cut out all the characters and then do a paper cut-out dodecahedron in the same scale and then glue them on. My thinking was if you folks had an actual mock-up model then it would be easier to translate it into an actual graphic. What do you think?

Again, thanks for you patience and help! I’ll do what I can to help. McMormor (talk) 16:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied in Graphic Lab. Jon C (talk)

Albanian parliament

Can you also vectorise File:Kuvendi logo.jpg? That would be really great, than all main logo's of Albania are vectorised :D --Vinie007 11:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vinie - I'll pass on this one. It's low resolution for its details to be easily vectorized. Jon C (talk) 22:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

your beautiful artwork

Do you take requests?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Yes I do to a certain extent. Generally it will require either I'm interested in the subject matter (generally pedagogical illustrations), my current skills allow (largely vector), or I have much time in hand (this may be the case in a few months' time when I'm graduated and unemployed). What do you have in mind? Jon C (talk) 17:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vectorization of some Scout and Guide emblems which could be improved-your area seems to be east Asia, we have some needs. Might this pique your interest?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:55, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi KB. I would be happy to entertain one or two requests in those category, but in general I have dwindling interests in vectorizing logos and emblems. (Often the original was good enough for screen, they're often low impact in comparison to other outstanding needs, and tracing can be pretty time-consuming but mindless work.) Jon C (talk) 15:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All right, then I will pick the two most pressing, get back to you in a couple days. Do you want them to be east Asia, or in this top-two-instance is any location okay?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible for you to pick abuncha (~5-6) pressing and I pick from that? I'm not sure how the east Asia is relevant in the picture... Jon C (talk) 16:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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SalopianJames - previously Colds7ream (talk) 10:55, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

state reptile chart

Data

Year states 1969 1 1972 2 1979 3 1983 4 1986 6 1987 7 1988 8 1989 10 1990 11 1993 13 1994 15 1995 18 2003 19 2005 21 2006 23 2007 24 2008 26

Area chart (with 50 as max) is desired as it is more visually appealing and shows intuitive progression to "all states having one".

I can't get it to display right in Excel, though. Is an option for area chart, but then my X axis gets messed up.

TCO (talk) 18:23, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Given this series of data, I think it's not appropriate to use either an area chart or connected lines (as in the original). This objection is based on two issues: (i) The data here is discrete, that is, there is no 0.5 state, so diagonal lines don't make sense; (ii) the data is highly discontinuous, which means extrapolation convey the wrong kind of meaning (esp. with data points missing).

Given you also want to indicate the sense of progression relative to the whole 50 states, I propose we do this with a series of pie-charts for regularly spaced years (e.g., every 4 years), using the previously known figure if a certain year is missing. Each of these pie chart would comprise of a ratio (out of 50/52?), with the reptiled portion indicated in red, and non-reptiled portion in gray. I feel that it would both show the progression and be faithful to the data. Does that work for you? Jon C (talk) 05:51, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the thought (honest), but I will stick with what I have. If you read the book, Say it with charts, by the graphics director of McKinsey, he gives the advice never to show more than two (preferably not more than one) pie chart as a group. Honest, I appreciate it, but pie charts...yick. ;-) TCO (talk) 05:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

P.s. the data is NOT discontinuous in terms of me not knowing what happened. I just gave you the upticks. But I know every single year that each state approved a reptile. So 1970 and 71 are also "1". Etc. Etc.TCO (talk) 06:01, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you've also posted these replies to the Graphics Lab - I've reply there as well (with the "block area chart"), so other graphists are kept in the loop. Jon C (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks for the cheart. Looks great in article. I love having a variety of images (photos [of different sorts], drawings, graphs, maps, quoteboxes, etc.) I think the reader appreciates it and the different types of visual convey different info.

I had a couple of old ballbuster image requests (a graphic of a gymanstics maneuver to ape that done by a professional illustrator and then a chemical process for plutonium isolation which was pretty complex). Neither one of them is really high priority as am not working on those articles (and articles are very low view). I will save the special request for when it is some more important need!

Thanks again, man.

TCO (talk) 17:12, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to be of help. I might have some free time between Christmas and the New Year - do you want to upload both of these images so I can have a look at them (and satisfy my curiosity)? Jon C (talk) 17:16, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Old gymnastics request: Follow the two hyperlinks within and you will see some great explanatory diagrams by newspaper artists (almost Tufte-like...even better than Tufte IMHO). The thing that is cool is the economy of the images (could easily be used in wide view across an article, or perhaps for the first one even on side and clickable). The actual movement is very complex to describe in words (roundoff onto the springboard, backhandspring onto the horse, 1.5 flips and 2.5 twists) especially for someone who is struggling to understand even the basic gymnastics moves like a "roundoff". A photo does not do it justice since you only see a part of the trick. Thus a diagram is so cool.

Old process diagram request I was pretty lazy there, basically asking the artist to figure out both the chemistry AND make the image. I do think that these chemical processes are much more accessible when shown graphically, vice in words or equations only. Maybe not some symbols of a PFD, but with more cutesy intutive images and the like. Heck, I think even for a technically trained person, it is easier to grok a multi-step process when shown as a diagram. And for the non-technical person...well they are just not going to read some dense, complex process paragraph (maybe don't even really understand terms like precipitation). But with a flow diagram, they can kinda get some information on what is going on. I was actually kind of proud of myself for showing the Ames chemical process (implicitly by left to right positioning) in a very friendly manner in this tryptich of images: [1]

TCO (talk) 18:08, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

P.s. Seriously, I would hold the major work for something where the article really needs it. I was really sort of half testing what I could get away with from the help desk there. Have had experience in companies with graphic artists or the like and they can be amazing. But, realio trulio those are not super important articles (very low view). -TCO

I would be interested in spending time on either of these. I play capoeira, so while I'm not exactly doing 2.5 twists myself, I do understand round-off and back-flips. This is something that will drive me to spend time and learn DAZ/Poser, and that's a good thing.

As to the plutonium flow process, I agree that a single illustration that combines both of your cited diagrams --- and perhaps making use of iconic graphics, will help tremendously in understanding the complicated happenings. I can also see how this is not something that any graphists can do.

ATM I'm tied with a pretty involved illustration (the SSME scheme in the Graphics Lab), and it seems like you think the fluorine cycle ought to take precedence, so we'll put this off for now. But I'm absolutely open to visiting these at a later time. Jon C (talk) 01:03, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very manly of you (well the not being scared of those kinds of drawings as well as the martial arts)! The ones that really amaze me are the Amanar drawings. Those ran in big time NEWSPAPERS. In general, gymnastics is very technical (trick names and such) and is really hard for main stream media to cover. (They end up just reciting numerical scores and placement which is pretty boring as the real interest is in the difficult tricks attempted. But while in football some of the technical stuff is known by the audience, so they can discuss plays [although even that can be too technical], in gym it is hard to connect to the general audience.) So that is what blows me away with two different huge newspapers using the power of graphics to totally get across a very complex idea to a very uninformed audience. The plutonium PFD is interesting, but is really more like just a bunch of work. And there are some sorta decent PFDs on Commons. But I don't think there is ANYTHING like what those illustrators did for Shawn (and I'm still blown away, by two different cracks on the problem). And that Manhattan Project article already has several Featured Pictures.

If you just wanted to do something visually stunning to get the Wiki-peeps thinking (of new ideaz!), then the above could be fun. And definitely, you'll get an FP and have a positive teaching aspect on the 'pedia.. I've worked with someone before to do something innovative that wracked up an FP: [2]. That said...I just want to be respectful of a high skill resource and have you use time on stuff that matters. There are probably plenty of graphic challenges out there on articles that are high demand as well!

And if you did whip out one of those diagrams, I would feel duty bound to drive the content of the article itself to GA/FA. And I have really had this mathematical realization that time is limited. Actually, though...if you did the Amanar drawing and kicked ass on it and got it to FP, then I could take Shawn Johnson, not just Amanar to GA/FA. And SJ is actually 40,000 views per month. So definitely meets my hurdle rate. That said, a little scary because of the sourcing challenges (living, young BLP) and all.

Peace, babe. Orgo is hard.

Enjoy Xmas!

TCO (talk) 02:07, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ionz

You will be a hero if you get "Ion" to FA. It is a Vital Article and gets 100,000 views per month. Yet we have only a "start" article. Meaning it is not as if we have poor writing...we just don't even have sufficient content at all. Really just getting it to GA would be a huge accomplishment and step forward for the 'pedia.TCO (talk) 18:14, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is on my back-burner. My writing to-do list for Wikipedia ATM consists of the synthetic ion channel article and ion. The trouble with the ion article is that it really should cover alot of ground (from the allied disciplines), and having recently finished school, I no longer have access to an academic library (which I could check out infinite books :) ) Jon C (talk) 02:24, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

one important and slightly interesting request

I want to show some form of graphic that is a mass balance/flow diagram for fluorine, from the minerals to final applications, with important intermediates (HF, F2). It would go into fluorine right after the first para under applications, but before the subsections (helping to organize that content). And really draw together a lot of stuff in that article. I'm thinking either arrows with numbers on them or perhaps arrows of different thickness. But part of the problem is that the numbers vary widely, but I need to show some uses that are small numerically but important in article. I have a couple good references and lots of data. Really the issue is more to decide where and how to simplify it. For instance, I don't want to show recirc loops or the like. (this is to help people, not to confuse them).TCO (talk) 23:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you!

		The SVG Barnstar
		For creating an absolutely gorgeous, much needed and highly useful diagram of the Space Shuttle Main Engine! Many thanks! SalopianJames - previously Colds7ream (talk) 12:23, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ouu. Christmas present! Thank you. Glad to be of help. Jon C (talk) 17:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Drug danger and dependence

Hi Jon, on my way here to thank-you for SVG-converting the above, I saw your user page and my jaw dropped! It's fantastic that wiki has a guy like you contributing your expertise to the project. Would love to collaborate with you sometime on a biochemistry or molecular biology article. One small favor to ask: in the diagram, the x-axis label "Action Dose/Lethal Dose" dose should actually be "Active Dose/Lethal Dose". I'm sure it's a trivial change, but I lack the skills to do it myself. Thanks very much! Sasata (talk) 02:41, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I've experimented with the diagram in situ, would you mind making an additional version without the title? This information will be mentioned in the figure caption, and when absent should make the upper part of the diagram look less cluttered. Thanks! Sasata (talk) 03:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sasata - mea culpa. Existing one is now updated, and a new one without title can be found here. A hint for SVG editing - they're just plain text files, and if all you need is text-substitution, you can open the file up with notepad and do find-replace. Jon C (talk) 05:07, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

put a cool diagram in the queue

fluorine economy. Maybe not super graphics snazzy looking. But trying to do something a little different from normal wiki stguff. more of a schematic.TCO (talk) 00:28, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is this the same as the request taken by Fallschirmjäger? Jon C (talk) 03:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah...I was two-timing you. ;) TCO (talk) 03:18, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah OK. It's taken care of then. Jon C (talk) 04:01, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Illo request

This isn't mega-cool, but could use someone who knows drawing as well as chemistry. Image below is in for deletions at Commons. Just looking for a schematic of a membrane-based chlor-alkali cell. Doesn't have to look like the base drawing (use whatever colors, perspective, etc you want), but just call out the standard parts. Make sure to call out the membrane and show something membrane-y.

I will use it in several places (Nafion, chlor-alkali, etc.) It's actually a big industry. I will probably take Cl to FAC next. (after F). Intersting that a membrane using F is vital for Cl. Well, unless you want to use Hg.

P.s. In general, wide aspect (unlike the base drawing) is better for Wiki images (since I can text wrap easier).

File:Chloralk2.gif

(in case that gets deleted, here is an off-site link (http://www.cheresources.com/chloralk.shtml Figure 2])

TCO (Reviews needed) 17:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Happy new year TCO. Looking at the article, there seems to be two images (this one and the blue one) which are both raster, is in some moving drive, and have essentially duplicated information. I find the blue one being pedagogically clearer - do you object to that one being cleaned up instead? Jon C (talk) 02:46, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually now that you mention it, I would hold off. I am not going to get to anything with chlor-alkali for a while. And I probably won't need it for fluorine. I'll bug you if I change mind. Also, I would really need to get up to speed on that industrial process to advise on the proper emphasis in a diagram. Hope you have some champagne, soon! TCO (Reviews needed) 02:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I made a diagram for the membrane process, and linked it to the article. The article itself could use some re-writing to be clearer. The final diagram is abit too busy for my taste. Jon C (talk) 05:49, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For the amalgam process, there's a german SVG which could be translated but otherwise used as is. Jon C (talk) 05:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very impressive. I like the percents for the brine content. Yeah, it's busy, but I guess you could try to have a pretty good supporting discussion in article explaining all the arrows and such. Nice stuff. I would definitely use it in the chloralkali article. Will put it in now. Probably hold off for fluorine becayse of the complexity, but it would work OK in Nafion. nice that you got the Hg process one as well!

There are a butt ton of unfinished articles here. I just went to filtration and it is only start class even thought it is really a very diverse topic and a huge industry.

TCO (Reviews needed) 06:01, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I had fun making this one. The supporting discussion is definitely needed - but I'll leave it to better writers than me for that. There's lots of chemistry articles that need TLC; I'm not sure why the state of chemistry is so comparably terrible. Haha, maybe because we're all lackluster writers? Jon C (talk) 06:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

put it in for FP

I nominated your diagram for Featured Picture. They can be pretty strict there, but let's see what they say. I think they need more action from people doing diagrams, not just pictures of birds. So it is good for them to see new ideas (and we should feature such). P.s. I nominated only (am not a creator). TCO (Reviews needed) 06:34, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You should go support yourself. My vote as nom does not really, but you are allowed to vote for yourself, if nommed.TCO (Reviews needed) 07:17, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There was/is a similar situation with FP in the Commons, where illustrations tend to get some support but not quorum. Coming from the POV of a non-photographer, I can see their hesitation -- I can't pick out half the things they criticize pictures for, and presumably they can't decide if it's technically good enough to warrant a FP (nor familiar enough with the content to know if it's pedagogically sound). Jon C (talk) 07:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You have some amazing diagrams on your front page, like the reed bed.TCO (Reviews needed) 13:54, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It was nice, but the SVG versions were seriously hampered by the rendering engine Wikipedia has for SVGs. Many of the more organic features that Illustrator supports were simply not shown; even basic things like patterns are discarded. (For crying out loud, I still can't figure out why certain fonts display correctly only in certain contexts.) There are also a number of things that I'd have built in a different way now than early last year - haha, I did learn! Jon C (talk) 16:43, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you are losing detail because of SVG, I would ditch that format. I think we have a little bit of a false "gotta be SVG" attitude. It's more appropriate for line drawings. Also, it's less accessible to the general public than png or the like. And for those sophisticated enough to work with SVG, they can work with other formats too. And they can translate, just fine. See [3]. TCO (Reviews needed) 16:53, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kinetsubuffalo's Scout requests

I need:

File:Anguilla Branch of The Scout Association.svg

File:Palestinian Scouts of Jerusalem.svg

File:Botswana Scouts Association.svg

File:Egyptian Boy Scouts Association.svg

In light of recent events, I'd like to stick in

File:Public Scout and Girl Guide Movement.svg

File:Order of World Scouts.svg Done

Fantastic, really amazing, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:59, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jon C (talk) 15:22, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, by the way!

Hope 2012 is great for you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:52, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Membrane cell for chloralkali production

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Your image, File:Chloralkali membrane.svg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 12:48, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

chemical graphics requests

Hey man:

Hope you are well.

I have a couple of chemicalish figure requests in at the Graphics help desk. If you have time, love to get your help. Don't think it needs anything fancy (want clear and clean), but I bet having someone draw it who knows chemistry will just make the thing go easier! TCO (talk) 23:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jon C (talk)

Talkback

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Space Shuttle Illustration

archive of the discussion

I need vectorize logos of Philippine organizations and DPM

I need vectorized logos of Philippine organizations and logo of Democratic Party of Mongolia: see Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop#SVGrize these logos, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.210.115.58 (talk) 12:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I saw (and avoided deliberately) the long list of tracing requests in the Graphics Lab :P I have other yet-to-be-done illustrations lined up (like the Space Shuttle entry just above), and after having done many of them last year, I just don't fancy vectorizing complex and non-free use logos anymore. That said, if some of them are essential to a well-progressed article (e.g., on the verge of a GA/FA status), I'll be happy to make an exception. Jon C (talk) 15:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some of them are possible to be converted to SVG. Non-vectorizable logos can converted to PNG. If you don't have much time, send the request to other professional graphists. --112.210.80.208 (talk) 06:13, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New workshop

Hey there. Please take a look at this proposal to start a new workshop in the graphic lab. Please add your views on this. Roshan220195 (talk) 15:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jon C (talk)

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Resolved

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Resolved

Jon C (talk) 05:29, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was talking about you.

Said good things about you behind your back. ;)

[4] I wouldn't bother with the request though. They don't have any appreciation... TCO (talk) 05:39, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, though I think I should visit the Graphics Lab less frequently: the "I can do this right now" tasks often bump off the "I can do this right" tasks (of which there's a years' worth of them lying around now). Jon C (talk) 07:22, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Logo of 100th Anniversary of the Independence of Albania

	Казандиби
	Thank you! Antidiskriminator (talk)

"harder than normal" requests

Have a couple requests in the GL queue for "Fluorine", requiring original composition of images. FYI. TCO (talk) 19:07, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TCO - I'm moving and starting a new job, so it's been/will be hectic for some time. Both of the illustrations requested are beyond my capability (and time) right now; plus, I just don't have a sense of what's going on (the complex lines, and bizarre octahedral-bridge-ring-lattice of MnF4). Sorry. Jon C (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with the job. I am sending you good omens. Don't sweat the illos for Wiki. Real work that pays and that helps those around you is what matters. I know you will do great...smart, artistic, and kind.TCO (talk) 13:22, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

‎Signature vectorization

Could you look at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop‎#‎Signature vectorization?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	Thanks for updating the ChIP workflow illustration! Very nice work! Klortho (talk) 19:55, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vectorization request

Hi! You once helped me vectorize a logo for WP:WikiProject Warriors. The project has now expanded its scope, and we were hoping to update the logo accordingly. One project member created a new image, however, we would like it to be vectorized, and modified a little. The current image is . What we were hoping you could do is change the dog silhouette to be paler than both the cat and bear, then remove the white gap between the dog and cat (and the dog collar), and finally vectorize it as you did last time? Bramble claw x 19:46, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey stud...

How are you? I hope you are taking care of the job and life and all that. This place does not pay and can even be a negative thing (addictive and get you into trouble). All that said, if you are still looking for an interesting request...

Remember me turning you off of doing the illo for Amanar? Well, I could really use a gymnastics illo. Like to get a graphic that shows biomechanically how the Diamidov skill works. This is something where the layman will have a hard time understanding from a description. I think something "short and wide" would be best. I would display it centered, because this gets me out of text wrap issues.

TCO (talk) 20:21, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TCO --- things are hectic over here, and will be hectic at least through April 2014, when I've taught all the material once-through. That said, there's some exciting news for Wikipedia Illustrations on this side. I'm training some students in vector illustrations, with the explicit goal of producing illustrations for Wikipedia. The hope is that they will be regularly committed to the graphics lab during (and hopefully beyond) their time with me.

I won't have time to look at the gymnastics illustration before the end of the school year, so I'll write you when time allows. Jon C (talk) 11:42, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No sweat and you are a good guy. I am 100% candid when I say that it is more important to take care of things in real life. Even for your students. Hope job is well and get some sunshine too!TCO (talk) 15:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

POTD notification

POTD

Hi John,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Chloralkali membrane.svg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 2, 2013. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2013-05-02. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:45, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cool science article to play with

Jon, if you are concentrating on real life, more more more power to you. But if you have some Wiki time and can participate in the peer review for Fluorine, much appreciated. 98.117.75.177 (talk) 17:39, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Tibetan snow leopard

Thanks for your works on SVG files. I have some doubts on the File:Tibetan snow leopard.svg historical veracity as Tibetan Empire flag. This flag seems to only appear after 2010. The yellow disk on red background as Tibet flag was displayed on File:Palast_des_dalailama.jpg from a begining of the 20th century, that I had uploaded after a chocolate plate illustration. the view of this flag on mediawiki perhaps inspirated religous movments. But I never seen any flags of Tibet before this one. I would be interested by other sources. On this card, the Qing dynasty flag seems to be related, with a dragon looking at the sun (red disk on yellow flag). And I seen several mongol flags with circles (Qing dynasty is Manchu people, that is s a subgroup of Tungusic peoples, culture near mongol one), that ruled Tibet from Gengis Khan (12th century), to Qing dynasty as far I know. But I never seen historical picture of tibetan empire flag, and espcelially snow leopard that seems to be created by some political movements during 20th century. Chinese flags with pictographs seems to appear during Ming Dynasty, some traces seems to than chinese characters was used before on warriors banners, with no clue of national flag. A japanese representation of Yuan dynasty (mongol one) tring to invade japan, display red circle for japanese navy and white circle for mongol navy.Popolon (talk) 02:18, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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