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The Signpost: 27 February 2012

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WikiCup 2012 February newsletter

Round 1 is already over! The 64 highest scorers have progressed to round 2. Our highest scorer was Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), again thanks mostly to a swathe of good articles on The X-Files. In second place was United Kingdom Tigerboy1966 (submissions), thanks an impressive list of did you knows about racehorses. Both scored over 400 points. Following behind with over 300 points were Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions), Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions), Wisconsin Miyagawa (submissions) and Scotland Casliber (submissions). February also saw the competition's first featured list: List of colleges and universities in North Dakota, from Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions). At the other end of the scale, 11 points was enough to secure a place in this round, and some contestants with 10 points made it into the round on a tiebreaker. This is higher than the 8 points that were needed last year, but lower than the 20 points required the year before. The number of points required to progress to round 3 will be significantly higher.

The remaining contestants have been split into 8 pools of 8, named A through H. Round two will finish in two months time on 28 April, when the two highest scorers in each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers, will progress to round 3. The pools were entirely random, so while some pools may end up being more competitive than others, this is by chance rather than design.

The judges would like to point out two quick rules reminders. First, any content promoted during the interim period (that is, on or after 27 February) is eligible for points in round 2. Second, any content worked on significantly this year is eligible for points if promoted in this round. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which would otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Signpost (5 March)

Hi,

I added a section to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-03-05/News and notes on the New Page Triage initiative released by WMF. Is this really a section that should go under the technology section you write?

Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 15:56, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Script idea

Hey, first I wanted to thank you for your pageview tool. It saved me hours of tedious work.

Along those lines, I was wondering if you would consider coding up a modified version of it which pulls stats from multiple articles at once. The dream idea is to simply input a list of articles one has created (for example, one like http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pages/index.php?name=Ocaasi&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia&namespace=0&redirects=none), have options to not count redirects, or not court pages moved from certain wikispaces, and then provide data for all of the articles both separately and cumulatively, at the same time. A simple approach would be just letting the user manually type a list of articles they want stats for.

I assume there are some server issues, as the single page tool is not exactly fast. Still, I think this is worth considering. I would definitely find it useful, maybe others would too. Hopefully it's an accessible idea. What do you think? Ocaasi t | c 01:56, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 05 March 2012

Thanks...

...for your contribution to the article NXIVM!Chrisrus (talk) 04:14, 7 March 2012 (UTC) Hey stick around that article for a bit, you might see some other edits you'd like to make. Check the contents of the articles vs the available WP:RSes.

Cormorant (band)

I had a request to un-protect the page and I decided to do so. I read the discussion at WP:AN and think that you were correct in wanting some of the pages un-protected. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 19:36, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Template count fails

http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&name=Template%3ACite+book gives "Warning: require_once(/home/project/i/n/t/intuition/ToolserverI18N/ToolStart.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/jarry/public_html/i18n.php on line 23 Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required '/home/project/i/n/t/intuition/ToolserverI18N/ToolStart.php' (include_path='.:/opt/ts/php/5.3/lib/php') in /home/jarry/public_html/i18n.php on line 23" Josh Parris 02:18, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Working now. Josh Parris 04:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Seattle FilmWorks

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Checking in

Hullo Jarry, just checking in on some Signpost business. Is everything all good for the Tech report for tomorrow's edition?

MZM has some ideas about the LivingBot delivery key generation; bot programming not being a forte of mine, I'm not in a great position to move things forward, but perhaps you could take a look.

Lydia Pintscher has been announced as the community communications rep for Wikidata. What do you think of interviewing her as a Tech feature? (foundation-l)

Still mulling over your idea of incorporating reader polls; do you know if any of the existing poll extensions are fit for purpose, or are there privacy/access/technical barriers to our using them?

P.S. There is discussion of some other matters in the newsroom that your input would be welcome on if you feel so inclined.

Cheers, Skomorokh 13:12, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 12 March 2012

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
Not sure if this particular barnstar applies to this but your signpost articles are great to read. Keep up the good work. -- Kangaroopowah 00:58, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Spirulina (dietary supplement)

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The Signpost: 19 March 2012

Hey

Thanks. Aaron • You Da One 20:45, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

irratic wiki

Hi,

Is the reason wiki has been so slow and erratic lately (especially yesterday) because of the deployments you've been writing about? (A few days ago there was even a brief return of the thumbnail image problem.) Thanks, MathewTownsend (talk) 15:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

p.s. Some pages fail to load completely e.g. Colorado River MathewTownsend (talk) 16:19, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. How long is it going to last, as I can barely edit it's so slow? MathewTownsend (talk) 20:31, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, it's worse than ever. I posted at the Village Pump and at least some others are having the same problem, with today being the worst. It's uneven. Takes forever to get my recent contributions and many articles (even very short ones), but watchlist is pretty normal. MathewTownsend (talk) 20:43, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Jarry1250

I am sorry for your hurt eyes but toying with intellectual properties of others is called copyright violation. Please do not do that again.

Fleet Command (talk) 11:48, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

svg auto translation

Jarry, I have translation tool at [1] which can translate wiki articles especially useful for list-type articles. Using this tool I translated few svg files too (using startstring '>' and endstring '<'). [2]. Please comment. -- Mahir78 (talk) 00:51, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
For your admirable and unique performance in our content dispute, specifically for having assumed good faith, respecting your fellow Wikipedian, excellent manners and admirable self-restraint in regard to using the Revert button. I have never met a Wikipedian who fares better in comparison in the past six years. Fleet Command (talk) 12:41, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

User script listing cleanup project

I'm leaving this message for known script authors, recent contributors to Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts, and those who've shown interest in user scripts.

This scripts listing page is in dire need of cleanup. To facilitate this, I've created a new draft listing at Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts cleanup. You're invited to list scripts you know to be currently working and relevant. Eventually this draft page can replace the current scripts listing.

If you'd like to comment or collaborate on this proposal, see the discussion I started here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User scripts#Scripts listing cleanup project. Thanks! Equazcion (talk) 04:49, 25 Mar 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 March 2012

Thank you Jarry

Thank you Jarry for telling me that it's the Stumble Upon that's causing the problem. I am now wondering how I can possibly delete Stumble Upon as it isn't showing any locations on any computer files that I could delete. Also, as I have now described on the Technical Page on the Village Pump I have other problems relating to the Wikipedia site itself...


Best wishes,

JaneyjoJaneyjo (talk) 20:32, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 March newsletter

We are over half way through the second round of this year's WikiCup and things are going well! Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), of Pool B, is our highest overall scorer thanks to his prolific writings on television and film. In second place is Pool H's Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions), thanks primarily to work on biological articles, especially in marine biology and herpetology. Third place goes to Pool E's Scotland Casliber (submissions), who also writes primarily on biology (including ornithology and botany) and has already submitted two featured articles this round. Of the 63 contestants remaining, 15 (just under a quarter) have over 100 points this round. However, 25 are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly. 32 contestants, the top two from each pool and the 16 next-highest scorers, will advance to round 3.

Congratulations to Vanuatu Matthewedwards (submissions), whose impressive File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg became the competition's first featured picture. Also, congratulations to Florida 12george1 (submissions), who claimed good topic points, our first contestant this year to do so, for his work on Wikipedia:Featured topics/1982 Atlantic hurricane season. This leaves featured topics and featured portals as the only sources of points not yet utilised. However, as recent statistics from Wisconsin Miyagawa (submissions) show, no source has yet been utilised this competition to the same extent it has been previously!

It has been observed that the backlogs at good article candidates are building up again. While the points for good article reviews will be remaining constant, any help that can be offered keeping the backlog down would be appreciated. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Lydia

Aloha; what's your current state of mind on the Wikidata story – are you aiming for it to run today or in a future issue? So long as it's not rushed or outdated I'm happy to publish it in whichever edition suits but the sooner you could let me know your thoughts the better. P.S. Delighted with the polling feature, splendid work, let's talk about possibly extending it to other features once this issue's in the bag. Cheers, Skomorokh 18:48, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 April 2012

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles/Conventions

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Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-04-09/Technology report

moin Jarry, are you sure that ditching google maps on our android service should be covered buried as it is right now? we got some press coverage on it (usual suspects like cnet, androidheadlines & pcmag as well as rather out of area folks like the austrian der standard) & given that it doesn't look like we are running with a ITN-feature this week might be worth a small third story, or so, regards --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 11:01, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

true words, thanks for the links (:, regards --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 22:17, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania tech track

We've finished reviewing submissions for Wikimania and did the reviews publicly. But haven't decided yet which ones or how many to accept yet. I'm not sure what you want to say in the Signpost but saying these are approved is premature. By the weekend, we might be notifying presenters and then some might decide they can't attend after all (e.g. maybe they don't get a scholarship, or other reason). We hope to have the program mostly finalized by end of month, if not sooner. Cheers. --Aude (talk) 17:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I moved the bullet point to next week's tech report. [3] Even then, no guarantee it will be ready to announce but I hope so. Cheers. --Aude (talk) 18:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 09 April 2012

Testing iOS v3.1.2 Release Candidate

Heya! Would be awesome if you could test the new RC on both iOS 4.x and 5.x. Details at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2012-April/005486.html. Thanks! YuviPanda (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

SVG check on toolserver

Hi, I'm a (kinda) regular user of your SVG check, but recently I can't access it. The page is simply whiteout with nothing indicates what the problem is. Thank you. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 09:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

AWB patch...

I downloaded a recent SVN snapshot (8046), and that template patch doesn't seem to be implemented... I thought it was? Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 07:27, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, it was more the case that I said it could be easily implemented, rather than actually doing it. Basically it comments out some code -- would you like me to actually delete it, or just keep it commented out with a note when I commit it? - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 11:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Well ideally I'd want current and future versions with that patch committed so I can just always get the snapshots and not worry about a thing. I could also live with AWB snapshots where all you need to do is uncomment/comment some sections of code before compiling, but as mentioned before, I don't really see why the patched behaviour shouldn't be used by default. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 15:22, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, with you. I just wondered how likely you thought it was that we might want to reverse this decision later? - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 19:21, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Well as mentionned before, no one can think of a reason for the current behaviour. If it's really a concern, perhaps have the current way of doing in-template checks available in a commented section? Or let people select which mode they want via a check box? But I really can't think of any reason why you'd want the current logic. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:27, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Skomorokh 13:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

D'oh

I'll try, but I'm piled over in work. ResMar 18:28, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

As is obvious, I am new at this and actually a little intimidated, but the small typos and what looked to me to be the misspelling of Basle/Basel, bugged me just enough to try to fix them. Regarding Basel/Basle, after I changed it again, I got curious and went looking. Sure enough, Basle is an alternative spelling, though I have never seen it! It was never my intention to offend or step on any toes.

Txhoney (talk) 20:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Vitus Bering

Orlady (talk) 08:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Excellent work! But can you shorten the intro, its way too long.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:31, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
For your great work on Vitus Bering! :) GoPTCN 15:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

sorry, didn't realize

Hi,

I didn't realize the Signpost was already published (so much sooner than usual). I hope I didn't muck things up by continuing to add. (Thought I would have through the evening at least!) Very sorry! MathewTownsend (talk) 22:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 April 2012

Incomplete DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Newspaper Libel and Registration Act 1881 at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; see step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 13:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK Japan

I think I've fixed it all. Thank you Nienk (talk) 12:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Hook referenced. Check it please. Nienk (talk) 19:36, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Abuse Filter on the Article Feedback Tool

Hey there :). You're being contacted because you're an edit filter manager, At the moment, we're developing Version 5 of the Article Feedback Tool, which you may or may not have heard about. If you haven't; for the first time, this will involve a free-text box where readers can submit comments :). Obviously, there's going to be junk, and we want to minimise that junk. To do so, we're working the Abuse Filter into the tool.

For this to work, we need people to write and maintain filters. I'd be very grateful if you could take a look at the discussion here and the attached docs, and comment and contribute! Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Bot Request

Hi!. please see my request and give answer to that. thanks Mamad TALK 05:36, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Jarry! You forgot to unblock it. :) —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:01, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Ssh, nobody noticed :P - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 09:13, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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Sniff test failed

http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&name=Template%3APortal#bottom reports 4,155,667 transclusion(s) found. Given we've got around 3.9m articles, this doesn't seem right to me; the db schema only records one transclusion per page, regardless of the number of times it appears in the wikitext, right? And the query excludes deleted pages, right? Josh Parris 06:59, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 April 2012

Talkback

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Message added 23:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

You have a message from Sue Gardner. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

To put in the technology report

Since you seem to be the author of this week's tech report in the Signpost, would you mind adding mention of Wikipedia:WikiProject IPv6 Readiness (and thus m:IPv6 initiative) and the related RFC?--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:13, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Done :) - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 22:15, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I was surprised that this didn't get mention in an earlier Signpost, but thanks a lot!--Jasper Deng (talk) 22:36, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Newspaper Libel and Registration Act 1881

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Law of Libel Amendment Act 1888

MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 April newsletter

Round 2 of this year's WikiCup is over, and so we are down to our final 32, in what could be called our quarter-finals. The two highest scorers from each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers overall, have entered round 3, while 30 participants have been eliminated. Pool B's Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) remains our top scorer with over 700 points; he continues to gain high numbers of points for his good articles on The X-Files, but also Millennium and other subjects. He has also gained points for a good topic, a featured list, multiple good article reviews and several did you knows. Pool E's Scotland Casliber (submissions) was second, thanks primarily to his biology articles, with Pool H's New York City Muboshgu (submissions) coming in third, with an impressive 46 did you knows, mostly on the subject of baseball. Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both scored over 600 points. Pools E and H proved our most successful, with each seeing 5 members qualify for round 3, while Pools C and D were the least, with each seeing only 3 reach round 3. However, it was Pool G which saw the lowest scoring, with a little under 400 points combined; Pool H, the highest scoring group, saw over triple that score.

65 points was the lowest qualifying score for round 3; significantly higher than the 11 required to enter round 2, and also higher than the 41 required to reach round 3 last year. However, in 2010, 100 points were needed to secure a place in round 3. 16 will progress to round 4. In round 3, 150 points was the 16th highest score, though, statistically, people tend to up their game a little in later rounds. Last year, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 points were needed. Guessing how many points will be required is not easy. We still have not seen any featured portals or topics this year, but, on the subject of less common content types, a small correction needs to be made to the previous newsletter: File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg, our first featured picture, was the work of both Vanuatu Matthewedwards (submissions) and United Kingdom Grandiose (submissions), the latter of whom has also gone on to score with File:Map of the Battle of Guam, 1944.svg. Bonus points also continue to roll in; this round, England Ealdgyth (submissions) earned triple points for her good articles on William the Conqueror and the Middle Ages, Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both earned triple points for their work on Western Jackdaw, now a good article, Michigan Dana Boomer (submissions) earned triple points for her work on lettuce and work by Bavaria Stone (submissions) to ready antimony for good article status earned him triple points. United Kingdom Jarry1250 (submissions) managed to expand Vitus Bering far enough for a did you know, which was also worth triple points. All of these highly important topics featured on 50 or more Wikipedias at the start of the year.

An article on the WikiCup in the Wikimedia Blog, "Improving Wikipedia with friendly competition", was posted at the end of April. This may be of interest to those who are signed up to this newsletter, as well as serving as another way to draw attention to our project. Also, we would again like to thank United Kingdom Jarry1250 (submissions) and Bavaria Stone (submissions), for continued help behind the scenes. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 April 2012

Merv King pic

Delete it. ;D ~ Iloveandrea (talk) 16:05, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 07 May 2012

Copy-edit

Jarry, a few things I wasn't sure about in your "Technology" page. Tony (talk) 02:20, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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Bugzilla: problem with MediaWiki version selection

Hi Jarry; when you raised bugzilla:36602, how did you manage to select the proper MediaWiki version (1.20wmf2)? It wasn't in the drop-down menu when I raised bugzilla:36662, so I left it as "unspecified", which probably means that it'll go unnoticed. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:25, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I think the issue is that the "Product" you choose dictates what versions you are allowed to select. I selected Wikimedia, so "1.20wmf2" makes sense. You've found an issue with MediaWiki, and 1.20wmf2 evidently isn't technically counted as a "version" of MediaWiki. That said, I'll mention it to Mark / new bugmeister next I see them. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 10:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you --Redrose64 (talk) 10:07, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thought you might be able to help. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:07, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For this, without which I could never keep up with my watchlist. Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 20:01, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 May 2012

WikiCup stats page

Hi Jarry! I was just wondering if there was something screwy going on with your WikiCup stats Toolserver page? It hasn't updated the articles created or top scorers sections for a while. It's not a huge deal - I just enjoy watching the numbers. Thanks, Dana boomer (talk) 12:47, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! I didn't realize that the script had to be manually run - it was updating every few days during the last round, so I thought it was automated. Great tool, btw! Dana boomer (talk) 16:51, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Update on watchlist brouhaha for next Signpost

In case you want to do an update in the next edition. We're still running on plain Vanilla while User:Elen of the Roads/Watchlist survey runs for the next week or so. Hopefully this will give a picture of whether editors want any change to their watchlist, if so what. There's never going to be a style that pleases everyone - there may be one that offends the least number of people. The other aim is to inform as many as possible that they now have loads of customisation options (in the best spirit of The Free Software Definition). --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:28, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Image existence checker

I added a file to the image blacklist that has non English characters in it. This appears to have broken the tool. --Traveler100 (talk) 19:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

hi --24.104.128.202 (talk) 13:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:SCE Studio Liverpool

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The Signpost: 21 May 2012

LivingBot

I am writing to notify you of a violation of policy. According to WP:BOTACC:

"Contributors should create a separate account in order to operate a bot. The account's name should identify the operator or bot function. Additionally, it should be immediately clear that its edits are made by an automated account; this is usually accomplished by including the word "Bot" at the beginning or end of the username."

I'll tick it off one by one. Separate account? Yes. Name identifying operator or function? No. Word 'bot' at end of username? Yes.

That's one "no". You are not Living1250, and the bot is not JarryBot (which I think would be a good name). The bot's function is not to live, either. Per policy the name must do that. I actually had a BRFA fail once because I named it wrong. So I renamed it for approval. I do know and appreciate that the name isn't hurting anyone, but the policy is a policy. However if you'd like consensus to change that clause (WP:BOTACC) discuss it at the talkpage.

It comes down to this: change the name. I know I don't have any authority to make you or enforce the rule, but I thought I had better notify you of your breach of policy. If the name is not changed within 28 days, I will take the matter to the appropriate noticeboard. Thank you, Rcsprinter (post) 19:50, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

This seems a bit extreme. Have you seen the number of bots that don't identify their creator or function? ([Wikipedia:Bots/Status]]) Perhaps you should propose that the policy be enforced across the wiki before coming just to Jarry, with no apparent motivation... Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:08, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Or you could see the first two tasks listed at User:LivingBot#Tasks, which explains the name. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Oh, yes; I didn't make that connection. Still wouldn't call it a function though. As for making the policy a bit better enforced more widely, I think I will. I had just seen LivingBot around and it occurred to me it broke the policy, so I messaged Jarry. Rcsprinter (talk to me) 16:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Libre article as a 'coatrack'

Hi Jarry1250. You described the Libre article as a coatrack, which is "a Wikipedia article that ostensibly discusses the nominal subject, but in reality is a cover for a tangentially related biased subject." Could you please explain (preferably on the Libre talk page) why you think the article is a cover for a tangentially related biased subject—and what that biased subject is? "Libre" is a broad category that covers free software, free culture, open source, open knowledge, etc.: as far as I can tell, these are the article's nominal subjects, rather than tangentially related subjects.

As for the libre page being an example of content forking, I can see an argument being made for that. The problem is that we have sets of overlapping definitions (for example, free software vs free content vs open source vs open knowledge) and libre is the supercategory under which they would all fall. I'd argue that libre is in fact the trunk from which those other article branch off, even though they predate the libre page itself. --Sanglorian (talk) 21:05, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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Signpost Issue

Just calling attention to this; Tony has punted it up to you. The headline is misleading.--Jorm (WMF) (talk) 05:55, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Seems like intimidation. You've left two other instances of "user" in the text. And "the wiki" is still there with an unexplained referent. I left an inline note to this effect, which you've removed. Tony (talk) 09:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Intimidation...? There's "user" in the poll caption, which I just explained on talk; and I read and considered your inline but chose not to act on it due to the conflict with the pronoun "it" (referring back to the issue) four words later. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 09:59, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
So what does "the wiki" refer to? I'm perplexed. Tony (talk) 09:59, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
The other noun from the preceding clause, the English Wikipedia (as you surmised). - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 10:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Well it's unclear ... weird, actually. Tony (talk) 10:59, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

And on the subject of the Signpost, how are you getting on with our new front page? First issue of June is the next one. My sandbox. Rcsprinter (shout) 15:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Not going to happen for a while, I'm afraid. Sorry! Exams + Hackathon (so maybe, just maybe...) - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 16:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 May 2012

WikiCup 2012 May newsletter

We're halfway through round 3 (or the quarter finals, if you prefer) and things are running smoothly. We're seeing very high scoring; as of the time of writing, the top 16 all have over 90 points. This has already proved to be more competative than this time last year- in 2011, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 was the lowest qualifying score. People have also upped their game slightly from last round, which is to be expected as we approach the end of the competition. Leading Pool A is Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions), whose points have mostly come from a large number of did you knows on marine biology. Pool B's leader, Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), is for the first time not our highest scorer at the time of newsletter publication, but his good articles on The X-Files and Millenium keep him in second place overall. Wisconsin Miyagawa (submissions) leads Pool C, our quietest pool, with content in a variety of areas on a variety of topics. Pool D is led by Scotland Casliber (submissions), our current overall leader. Nearly half of Casliber's points come from his triple-scored Western Jackdaw, which is now a featured article.

This round has seen an unusually high number of featured lists, with nearly one in five remaining participants claiming one, and one user, New York City Muboshgu (submissions), claiming two. Miyagawa's featured list, 1936 Summer Olympics medal table, was even awarded double points. By comparison, good article reviews seem to be playing a smaller part, and featured topics portals remain two content-types still unutilised in this competition. Other than that, there isn't much to say! Things are coming along smoothly. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Grep

Hi Jarry. Would you mind replying to my Grep query at the Help desk. Thanks! -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 09:01, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Mr and Mrs Andrews 1748-49.jpg

Hi again. I saw File:Mr and Mrs Andrews 1748-49.jpg linked on your user page, where you noted you live near where the painting was painted. Any chance you can locate where that tree was in the painting and add the geo code template Template:Object location dec to the commons image page[4]. Plus, maybe you can add more description on where the artist likely stood while painting that painting. Thanks! -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 09:06, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
For your graphs that appear in economics articles. Pine✉ 09:57, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I know you're busy...

...but will there be a poll this week, and will you be able to keep up with that over your busy period? Just wondering, if you can't, you can't. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 June 2012

TsIntuition "seconds" message from "general" domain

Hi Jarry1250,

Was just using your templatecount tool and saw this:

Warning: [MessagesFunctions::parse] Problems when parsing the message. For Information see below!.
Fatal error: [MessagesFunctions::plural] Invalid number argument to in ./language/MessagesFunctions.php on line 139.

Since a while now these messages require the $1 parameter to be set (I filed a bug to make it fail less fatally in case it is omitted), because the translation of the words "second" and "seconds" require this information in many languages (not just simple "single" and "plural" like in English). Please update your tool. Krinkle (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

YGM

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WikiProject Requested articles

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Just so you know-

See this. Don't panic about it, I genuinely do appreciate the work you do with the bot. I'm gonna mention it on the next newsletter that people should check their multupliers and notify a judge if they believe that they are incorrect. J Milburn (talk) 10:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Completing tech report

I thought it wouldn't be nice to do so for this week's Signpost without asking you first.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Jarry1250/DisambigNav

User:Jarry1250/DisambigNav, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jarry1250/DisambigNav and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Jarry1250/DisambigNav during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 06:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 June 2012

The Signpost tech report

Hi Jarry, just for future reference, per my recent edit to your latest Signpost tech report, there's no need for the second "now" in the notice about the polls. Also, when you're nesting a bulleted list (like you did in the list of BRFA's), astericks should be used rather than colons for screen readers. Graham87 06:17, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah OK, I only switched it to mdy date format because you're from the UK. Graham87 10:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Nice catch

Thanks! Wasn't thinking about them being normal-luxury goods. Henrychonghengli (talk) 18:36, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: Vidkun Quisling

This is a note to let the main editors of Vidkun Quisling know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on June 17, 2012. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 17, 2012. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegate Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Photograph of Vidkun Quisling in 1942

Vidkun Quisling (1887–1945) was a Norwegian politician. On 9 April 1940, with the German invasion of Norway in progress, he seized power in a Nazi-backed coup d'etat. From 1942 to 1945 he served as Minister-President, working with the occupying forces. His government, known as the Quisling regime, was dominated by ministers from Nasjonal Samling, the party he had founded in 1933. The collaborationist government participated in Germany's Final Solution. Quisling was put on trial during the post-war legal purge in Norway and found guilty of charges including embezzlement, murder and high treason. He was executed by firing squad at Akershus Fortress, Oslo, on 24 October 1945. During World War II, quisling became a synonym for traitor. (more...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Precious

complex person
Thank you for presenting a complex person in history like Vidkun Quisling, voicing well both the praise of his supporters ("a conscientious administrator of the highest order, knowledgeable and with an eye for detail. ... balanced and gentle to a fault, a leader who cared deeply about his people and maintained high moral standards throughout") and the criticism of his opponents ("unstable and undisciplined, abrupt, even threatening"), continuing "Quite possibly he was both", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:58, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 18 June 2012

Duiscussion about the village pump archives created by your bot

Hey, just letting you know about this discussion at the technical village pump about the village pump archives created by LivingBot. It seems that it missed out some discussions in the policy section. Graham87 12:54, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 June 2012

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About SVG translator

Hi Jerry i'd like to contact you about error messages i got when I tried to us the SVG translator. I couldn't find other ways of reaching you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LatinSuD (talk • contribs) 11:58, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Yup, this is a good way to get hold of me. Fire away :) - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 12:20, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 June newsletter

Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working. We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's Minas Gerais igordebraga (submissions), who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's New York City Muboshgu (submissions), with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.

A quick note about other competitions taking place on Wikipedia which may be of interest. There are 13 days remaining in the June-July GAN backlog elimination drive, but it is not too late to take part. August will also see the return of The Core Contest- a one month long competition first run in 2007. While the WikiCup awards points for audited content on any subject, The Core Contest about is raw article improvement, focussing heavily on the most important articles on Wikipedia. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 10:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 July 2012

Tip

See Wikipedia:VPT#Results from the timestamp feature experiment. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

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Wikimania tech sessions

I'll be going to several, would notes be helpful for a Signpost story? - Dank (push to talk) 02:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

I seek adoption!

Hello. I'm here with my request to offer you myself as a candidate whom you might wish to adopt. Please let me know what you have to say. Thanks! VIVEK RAI :  Friend?  06:15, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

CSS question

Hey Jarry, is there any possible way to get the bottom image to be centered, or is there no float:center attribute for divs and spans? (note that I am maybe a beginner level CSS person, so don't drown me in complex verbose language ;-) ) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 09:43, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 09 July 2012

Removed the coatrack tag from Libre

Hi Jarry1250,

In May you added the coatrack tag to the [[[Libre]]] page, although when I followed it up you pointed out that the coatrack tag didn't quite describe your problems with the article and that you'd follow it up with a longer statement when you had some free time.

Since it's been a couple of months, I was bold and removed the tag. Of course, if you still think that there's a problem with the article you're welcome to reinstate the tag or discuss it, but I thought it was appropriate to remove it since there was never a discussion on whether the coatrack tag was merited.

Cheers,

Chris (--Sanglorian (talk) 11:25, 11 July 2012 (UTC))

The Signpost: 16 July 2012

CSS edit

That did it, Thank you. Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup tool

Hi Jarry - Just a note that it doesn't appear that the WikiCup toolserver page is updating for the fourth round. Not a big deal, but I just thought I'd let you know in case you hadn't see it. Dana boomer (talk) 16:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 July 2012

Thanks!

Thanks for your help! All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:12, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Fronds

Greetings Jarry, I remember about 100 years ago you were working on something called Fronds and found this link but what ever happened to that? Is that gone now? Kumioko (talk) 23:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Lua update for Signpost report

Lua is often mentioned at VPT in discussions about template development. Is there time to include the Lua rollout update in this week's Signpost Techonology Report?

User:RobLa-WMF has just updated mw:Lua scripting/status#2012-07-monthly: "We believe we're ready to deploy Lua to the WIkimedia cluster, starting with test2 in August, followed by mediawiki.org."

Thanks for all your work keeping the editor community informed of MediaWiki development.

— Richardguk (talk) 09:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback!
Incidentally, the Signpost seems to have been published today without the table of contents on the front page being updated. I have left a message on User:The ed17's talk page.
— Richardguk (talk) 12:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
User:Tony1 seems to have updated[5][6] the contents page. — Richardguk (talk) 12:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 July 2012

WikiCup 2012 July newsletter

We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees New York City Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:26, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

signpost tech update.

I think you should mention among the 1.20wmf9 updates are:

Special:NewPagesFeed. New bug fixes are being added..
Curation toolbar, the Wikimedia-supported twinkle replacement is going live. User_talk:Okeyes (WMF)#Curation toolbar has more information.

User:Okeyes (WMF) is the best to talk about this. He left a message on some people's talk page who signed up for a NewPagesFees newsletter.

Toolserver has been semi-down since July 2. The replication lag is upto 340hrs according to the latest info found on the technical pump thread. The admins knew this was going to happen. Why couldn't the toolserver admins get a dump from Wikipedia and be done with it in a few days. This happened earlier in the year and toolserver admins ended up getting a dump. Having tools I depended on for my normal routine to be down for over a month is frustrating. Bgwhite (talk) 07:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 06 August 2012

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For your assistance with the Edit Filter earlier. Thanks! WilliamH (talk) 21:05, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/483

Just curious, what's the purpose of tracking when users create their own talk page? Could you put an explanation in the "Notes" section of the filter? Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:30, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Quisling pull quotes

Hi. I'd like to call your attention to this disputed fix I made. The use of {{rquote}} should be fixed. I've explained there.

It is a nice article, so congrats. I'm also familiar with your other tools, so thanks. Cheers, Br'er Rabbit (talk) 19:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Beef Products Inc.

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My deleted article

Dear Jarry1250

You deleted my article saying it shouldn't be on wikipedia. Is it because of the subject or because of the way I wrote it? This is an assignment for my university course, so I would really appreciate if you told me whether a change of the way I wrote the text would change the deletion or if the subject is just not appropriate for wikipedia at all, so maybe I can take another subject. I am looking forwards to hear from you

Best Regards Anna Di Pede — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dipedann (talk • contribs) 06:22, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your straight-to-the-point message on the Village Pump. Kahlores (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 August 2012

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