User talk:Jackcrane105
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- Can you post a url or a PMID which states that it has changed to 120 BPM? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- He cannot, because it has not. I have a copy of the 2010 AHA Guidelines for CPR and ECC sitting in front of me. It's "at least 100". Jclemens (talk) 01:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Agree but giving this user the benefit of the doubt. A lot of the rest of the 2010 AHA/ILCOR content still needs updating. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- I believe this is based on the Resus Council UK guidelines 2010 which are 100-120pm (BLS Guidlines p16). OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 09:52, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Agree but giving this user the benefit of the doubt. A lot of the rest of the 2010 AHA/ILCOR content still needs updating. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- He cannot, because it has not. I have a copy of the 2010 AHA Guidelines for CPR and ECC sitting in front of me. It's "at least 100". Jclemens (talk) 01:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Can you post a url or a PMID which states that it has changed to 120 BPM? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
I recently had a CPR update training course for my NPLQ - My trainer told the group that the guidelines on CPR had changed and we now had to do 5-6cm depth of compression on the chest and aim to get 120bpm, I'll ask where this was updated from and update you guys :) - jackcrane105
- Sure we try to base all references on Wikipedia on reliable sources.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:32, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
All the discussion
[edit]Hi there Jack,
just a bit of explanation for you about what's going on, and why your good faith edits have been reverted. First off, this is an international encyclopaedia, so we need to reflect the international standards - this means we usually follow ILCOR, which is the international body, of which the European Resuscitation Council is a member, and of which in turn the Resuscitation Council UK is a member. Now they don't always have the same guidelines at the same time, so the international version tends to take precedence.
Secondly, there are differences even within a country like the UK - the current resus council guidelines for professional rescuers (doctors, nurses etc.) is for paediatric resus is 3:1 for neonate and 15:2 for child, but for lay rescuers (including lifeguards) it is all the same, to aid memory. And for all cases the rate is "at least 100 but not greater than 120 min" (emphasis mine). More information on paed resus at this link or the adult one is in my link above.
I hope that makes it clear, but what is taught in lay rescue situations is not always the same as what professionals are taught or what it is worldwide.
Any questions or comments, then please let me know!
Regards, OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 10:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)