User talk:JMHamo/Archive 2

Kevin De Bruyne

Semi-protected for one week. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 10:21, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Paul Bannon

I dont understand why this would need protection if information is being added. References as well. 178.167.254.28 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:35, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Can you find references that are not behind a paywall? To view the Irish Times archive you have to pay, which is not ideal. Have a look at WP:RS for guidance. Also, have you a reference for the game stats? JMHamo (talk) 15:57, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

The Irish Times although a paywall has been used for years here as references. I have added a source for the game stats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.254.28 (talk) 16:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

• Hi, JMHamo. I'm reviewing this IP editor's edits and I'm 99% certain he's a new incarnation of sockpuppeteer, User:Rovers Forever. If it's him then I'd be very cautious about accepting his word on what information is listed behind that paywall. It's one of his favorites and he's been adding it to Irish football articles for years. He's fond of using difficult to verify sources like this to back up all kinds of original research. Just wanted to give you a heads up. -Thibbs (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I had my suspicions. I see it has been dealt with appropriately :).. JMHamo (talk) 21:58, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

So to sum up because you dont like some edits that are adding referenced information you can vandalise and basically shut down a page? You need to take a good long hard look at yourselves here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.254.59 (talk) 09:10, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Jordan Ibe

Hey. Didnt really feel a need to cite a source for the fact that Ibe had scored, as at the time, it was Live on tv, so it was fairly obvious he had been fouled for the penalty and scored the goal. Im sure now there are some match reports that can be used as sources ;) Dimspace (talk) 19:26, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

References are always required. Have a read of WP:RS JMHamo (talk) 21:53, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I realise that. Normally I would, but it was edited live as the match was in progress. I figured either I or someone would add a reference later as is common. Dimspace (talk) 23:19, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Not good.. a) Wikipedia is not Sky Sports, it's not a place for live match reports and b) if you assume that somebody will add a reference for you after because you couldn't be bothered, it's more likely to be removed. **sigh** JMHamo (talk) 23:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Did i say I couldnt be bothered? At the time there were no press reports to cite. As soon as there was one I would have gone to the page and added a ref, or somebody would have already done it. As it was, somebody had already added a reference. Blimey. Dimspace (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Rehab My Patient

Hello. The Rehab My Patient page has multiple issues. Maybe you could check it out? Thanks. NHCLS (talk) 21:07, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I see that it has been nominated for speedy deletion - "because in its current form it serves only to promote an entity, person or product, and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic." It's spam basically. JMHamo (talk) 21:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey JMHamo; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:

• If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
• If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
• If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
• sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
• If you type at the end of links, they now extend
• Templates now only take a single click to insert
• Clear annotations clears links (50461)
• The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
• Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
• Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
• References made by tag:ref now display properly (bugzilla:50978)
• The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
• Feedbacl link goes to the right language (bugzilla:47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:21, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Anton Forrester

How can that be a mess?I made separate sections for each
DebTheGangulian (talk) 03:37, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey JMHamo. The newest updates:

• Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (bugzilla:51463)
• Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (bugzilla:51515)
• You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (bugzilla:50047)
• We now show the <newarticletext> (or <newarticletextanon>) message as an edit notice (bugzilla:51459)
• You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (bugzilla:51739)
• Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (bugzilla:51322)
• FlaggedRevisions integration (bugzilla:49699)
• Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (bugzilla:50872)

Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:56, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Stats table

Yes, remove in the first instance as unreferenced information. GiantSnowman 10:08, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Evan Finnegan

Well he meets WP:NFOOTBALL so probably notable. GiantSnowman 13:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

Hello, I'm BracketBot. I have automatically detected that your edit to Mehdi Abeid may have broken the syntax by modifying 1 "()"s. If you have, don't worry, just edit the page again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on my operator's talk page.

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• | currentclub = [[Panathinaikos F.C.|Panathinaikos]]<br>(on loan from [[Newcastle United F.C.|Newcastle United]]

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Agustien shirt number

Hi there, Agustien posted his own image on to his Instagram account with his shirt. [1] RM-Taylor (talk) 12:32, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks JMHamo (talk) 12:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Diego da Silva Costa

Not enough vandalism (yet!) to justify protection, but I have added to my watchlist and will monitor. GiantSnowman 08:25, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

 Done - though please bear in mind WP:3RR when reverting. GiantSnowman 14:43, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Transfer rumours are not vandalism per se. GiantSnowman 14:51, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, I know your edits are entirely good faith - but just something to bear in mind... GiantSnowman 15:11, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013

It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages (T54012), scrolling (T54014) and deleting (T54013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block (T53741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer (T38000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.

Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:

• Re-ordering links to the editors to put "Edit source" first and VisualEditor second
• Renaming the link for VisualEditor to "Edit^beta"
• Disabling the animation for section editing.
• Changing all labels for the classic wikitext editor to say "Edit source", regardless of namespace.

There have also been many smaller fixes, including these:

• Horizontal alignment of images working correctly on more pages (T53995)
• Categories with ':'s in their names (like Category:Wikipedia:Privacy) now work correctly (T53902)
• Magic JavaScript gadgets and tools like sortable tables will now work once the page is saved (T53565)
• Keyboard shortcut for "clear annotations" - now Control+\ or ⌘ Command+\ (T53507)
• Fixed corruption bugs that led to duplicate categories (T54238) and improper collapsing when multiple new references were added in a row (T54228).
• Improvements to display elements: The save dialog in Monobook is restored to normal size (T52058), pop-up notices on save now look the same in VisualEditor as in wikitext editor (T41632), and the popup about using wikitext has a link to the definition of wikitext that now opens in a new window (T54093)

Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.

As always, if you have questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 23:15, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Liverpool F.C. copyright images

I have warned the user, reverted his additions, and requested deletion over at Commons. GiantSnowman 12:22, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Manchester United

The first team details were updated on the website .http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2013/Aug/manchester-united-release-squad-numbers-for-2013-2014.aspx . So please let me update the page. TanmayRaoM (talk) 16:45, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

The first team is listed here First Team JMHamo (talk) 16:50, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring

I never intend to edit war or break 3RR. But the thing is that the template is "position by round" and the round ended today (monday) and not saturday. I can agree that it is easiest to put the place when match ended, espiecially when round is not completed and games are postponed, but that is not how i interpret the template. Then it should be "position by match" and not "position by round". QED237 (talk) 22:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

In the same way someone just made this edit for Chelsea who dropped one place. QED237 (talk) 22:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Now you have change my edit three times. Consider reporting you because of 3RR. The source you added does not say anything about "position by round". QED237 (talk) 23:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I have added a Reliable source so that it's not WP:OR JMHamo (talk) 23:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

But that source still dont say anything about what the table is for, which is POSITION BY ROUND. The way you use the template is as POSITION BY MATCHDAY. There is a huge difference. QED237 (talk) 23:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Send me a source for a "round".. it doesn't exist. JMHamo (talk) 23:22, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

If "round" does not exist why is it called "Position by round"? There is your problem! QED237 (talk) 23:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

So you would like the label changed? Submit a request then. JMHamo (talk) 23:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

A request? To who? You because you feel like you own this? If I feel for changing I do. Have a look at this QED237 (talk) 23:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You can edit anything you like once you can back it up with WP:RS and not make it something that you think it should be JMHamo (talk) 23:54, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Sure but the source must say something about the meaning of the table and your source dont. Where does it say the it is the "position by round" in the source? And you still haven't anwered my question. How can you say that round dont exist, and then call the table "position by round"? QED237 (talk) 23:58, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Position by Round is only a heading of a section, there is nothing to say it must be called this, as in the Fulham season article.. change it if you want. JMHamo (talk) 00:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

BTW, my source does say "League position after match" if you hover over "Pos", so maybe the heading for the section could be renamed "League position after match" JMHamo (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

BTW, are you going to revert all of these changes everyone does? All lot of people do them. Here is an other example [2] QED237 (talk) 08:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

If you want a source here's one from the PREMIER LEAGUE themselves (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/search.html?q=Matchweek). On many occasions they refer to Matchweek and although the title could be "Results by Matchweek", it is shortened by "results by round" as a convention to follow EVERY OTHER document on Wikipedia. Why do you feel the need to change it?!?!?! 2.221.89.155 (talk) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

ALSO - why do the league positions after each match. Chelsea will play midweek so if you were to go by your silly method it would show Chelsea top of the table. Say they lose their next match then they will go down to 6th lets say. By your method it will show 4th-1st-6th, when in actual fact the result from midweek should be filled in after everyone has completed their second round to show the position that the club are TRULY in. This happens for early kick offs as well. Arsenal play Fulham - let's say they win and go up to 9th. By your method it will show ninth, but after Monday Night Football, they might actually be in 12th lets say. Your methos is flawed!! 2.221.89.155 (talk) 15:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

JMHamo I hate to say it but I told you so, there will be a lot of opponents to you changes. QED237 (talk) 16:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Please do not revert everyones edits when they make it "position by round" QED237 (talk) 09:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Please note the source, we don't edit Wikipedia because we want it to appear in a certain way. Everything must be backed-up with WP:RS JMHamo (talk) 09:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

But the source has to be relevant for the section. QED237 (talk) 09:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for 21 August 2013

Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (T52749) or in image captions (T2000. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (T54159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (T53462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (T35094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector (T54441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands (bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox (bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly (bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed (T54113).

Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link= parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (bug 51851).

More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate (bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message (bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better (bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure (bug 51636).

When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog (bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it (bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed (bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving (T53565).

A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at 2013–14 Arsenal F.C. season. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Dpmuk (talk) 18:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

JMHamo (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

This is harsh in my opinion, I am an experienced editor, and did not intend to break 3RR. I was implementing the consensus from WT:FOOTY Results by Round and was trying to avoid WP:OR being used on the article page. The IP did not provide any reliable source, was not prepared to respect WP:CON and was ignoring the Statto.com source listed. I apologise for inadvertently breaking 3RR, it was not my intention and in future I will be more careful and seek help earlier before entering into an edit war. JMHamo (talk) 19:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Accept reason:

As this is your first block in 8 years editing, I think you have been blocked long enough to make the point. It can be very frustrating dealing with IPs like this, but be more careful with 3RR – probably best to take it to the WT:FOOTY page next time as there are several active admins on there who will give much quicker assistance than WP:RFPP or WP:AN3. Number 57 19:49, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Statto

Hello. If you want to suggest Statto as the source of choice for all season articles, then you need to go to WT:FOOTY, or the season article task force page, although I don't know if that has much traffic. Personally, I'd support using it ahead of the Premier League site, for reasons expressed earlier. But although it's my source of choice because of its stability and ease of use, and I'd be happy to recommend it as such to any editors who aren't aware of it, I don't think I'd support requiring it to be used on all season articles in preference to other comparable independent RS (if any). cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:21, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

• You can follow every club's league progress on the individual club pages of Sky Sports' website, but that's a little clunky. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 18:54, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Starting XIs

I've left a message with the editor in question, hopefully they will remove it themselves. If not, I will do so. GiantSnowman 14:28, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I was beginning to think what is the point of consensus if some editors feel they can do what they like because it suits them, with disregard for established policies. JMHamo (talk) 14:34, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

I've reverted and left a 3RR warning at the Liverpool article; please use the article talk page more in future. GiantSnowman 14:10, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Don Cowan

RE:Your edit. Don't you think people would be able to discern the fact that he was born in New York from the information box on the right hand side of the page?

Re: AfD advice

Unfortunately, you didn't quite get it right. Almost, but not quite. Here's how bundling works. You nominate your first article for deletion normally. Then you add the other articles to the discussion page the way you did. Finally, you add {{subst:afd1|Title}} to the top of the other articles, where Title is the name of the first article. If the discussion page happens to be a 2nd nomination that should also go in the title parameter too. I hope that clears things up. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:54, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. Now I understand bundling AfDs. Please feel free to tidy up my mess if you feel it's necessary :) JMHamo (talk) 15:34, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Baptiste Aloé

You cannot PROD an article that has been discussed at AFD before - and he played in the Europa League for Marseille, so may meet NFOOTBALL depending on your interpretation. GiantSnowman 14:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

It was the redirect to the page that threw me - redirect.. What should be done with it? JMHamo (talk) 14:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, I see BigDom has deleted it already. JMHamo (talk) 14:24, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

2013–14 Liverpool F.C. season ASSIST

Hi

I need you help reverting at 2013–14 Liverpool F.C. season I am at 3RR and one user keeps inserting assist-table. First as IP-user then he logged in. QED237 (talk) 19:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: Liverpool targets protection

Done and done. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:36, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Turns out I didn't do it properly for Sakho; now corrected. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:57, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: Victor Moses

Done. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:08, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Maroune Fellaini

Reference has been added. The Independent have confirmed the signing. BBC television have confirmed the signing. Please do not undo up to date information.

This was also a reliable source which I added:

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/234781.html Amitraithatha (talk) 23:20, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Marouane Fellaini

Now a done deal. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Ryan Shotton

I'm not a wiki expert, your info on ryan is wrong his shirt no. is 4 not 2 as you stated. I have this account to correct the numerous mistakes made by people who write on here. I am the source, the citation. If you want to have the incorrect info on here then fine. If a fan buys a shirt with the wrong no. on the back, I'll be sure to pass them your details for a refund. too many people take this site as gospel hen in fact its written by people who don't know the facts.Stewski1973 (talk) 08:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Ramage

Hello. Have you got a source for squad number 3? I couldn't see anything on Barnsley's website... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:18, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I saw it on their official Twitter feed JMHamo (talk) 13:26, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. Seeing as there's nothing yet on the website, it might have been an idea to put that link in your edit summary, to show you did have a RS. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

An oversight by me, I will do in the future... JMHamo (talk) 13:36, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

2013–14 Aston Villa F.C. season

thank you for this edit to 2013–14 Aston Villa F.C. season. would you mind doing the same for 2013–14 Real Madrid C.F. season? I tried, but the owner of the article disagrees. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 17:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)