User talk:Ivanvector/Archive 20
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I have the notion that I recently read you responding to someone who had a similar problem while proxy-blocked. I can't remember the solution. (Was it just to go somewhere else, reset the password, and come back?) Perhaps you can help? -- asilvering (talk) 02:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering: replied on UTRS. The outlook is not good, unfortunately. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:46, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have now closed the appeal. You don't need to know that, and there's nothing more for you to do, but I mention it just in case you may be interested in seeing what I wrote in response to your comments. JBW (talk) 17:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @JBW: thanks. One thing that might be worth explaining: any user can send a password reset to another user, if they are logged into an account, or if they're not logged in and their IP is not blocked. You need to provide the email associated with the account, and as a security measure the form will not tell you if you got it right. It just says something like "if the details you provided match, then the user will be sent a temporary password." There is no way to know if the email actually was sent. It was worth a try anyway. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:32, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have never tried to send a password reset email to another user while logged in, so I can't comment on that. However, I can assure you that if I am not logged in I can send a password reset email to any user, provided they have an email address attached to their account, I am not subject to an IP block, and I know their username, without having to know their email address. I have done it before, to help users unable to get a reset email because of an IP block, and to make doubly sure I have just logged out of my account and sent one to myself. JBW (talk) 19:29, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've just sent one to you. I have no way of knowing whether you have received it, but if you have, then I can promise you that I don't know your email address. JBW (talk) 19:35, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @JBW: that's interesting, are you using Special:PasswordReset to do that? It always prompts me to enter the username and the email address (like I described), but I haven't tried logged out, my work VPN is blocked. Also I did get your emails (no worries about the heads-up) but I didn't get your password reset. I sent myself one earlier today from my alternate account so I don't think it's my mail server blocking them. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- OK, as I said, I have never done it while logged in, but in case there is some difference between doing it logged in and logged out, I have now sent a password reset email to my alternative account, JBW3, while logged in as JBW, and it worked fine. Special:PasswordReset has fields for username and password, but it says "Fill in one of the fields to receive a temporary password via email" (my emphasis) and it works with just the username. I have no idea why you didn't get my password reset, unless I misstyped your username or something. I will try once more, copying and pasting your username to be sure, and I'll be interested to know whether it works this time. JBW (talk) 23:26, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Can you reset the password while the IP is blocked, though? I thought that was also a problem (on top of how Special:PasswordReset doesn't work to send the email in the first place), so maybe I misunderstood. -- asilvering (talk) 03:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Apparently yes. At least once, and I am almost sure more than once, I have sent a password reset email in this situation, and then been thanked by the editor, who told me that it worked. JBW (talk) 10:32, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Can you reset the password while the IP is blocked, though? I thought that was also a problem (on top of how Special:PasswordReset doesn't work to send the email in the first place), so maybe I misunderstood. -- asilvering (talk) 03:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Aha! I've got it! The message that came up after I posted another request on Special:PasswordReset says "Only one password reset email will be sent per valid account every 24 hours in order to prevent abuse". JBW (talk) 23:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- OK, as I said, I have never done it while logged in, but in case there is some difference between doing it logged in and logged out, I have now sent a password reset email to my alternative account, JBW3, while logged in as JBW, and it worked fine. Special:PasswordReset has fields for username and password, but it says "Fill in one of the fields to receive a temporary password via email" (my emphasis) and it works with just the username. I have no idea why you didn't get my password reset, unless I misstyped your username or something. I will try once more, copying and pasting your username to be sure, and I'll be interested to know whether it works this time. JBW (talk) 23:26, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @JBW: that's interesting, are you using Special:PasswordReset to do that? It always prompts me to enter the username and the email address (like I described), but I haven't tried logged out, my work VPN is blocked. Also I did get your emails (no worries about the heads-up) but I didn't get your password reset. I sent myself one earlier today from my alternate account so I don't think it's my mail server blocking them. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @JBW: thanks. One thing that might be worth explaining: any user can send a password reset to another user, if they are logged into an account, or if they're not logged in and their IP is not blocked. You need to provide the email associated with the account, and as a security measure the form will not tell you if you got it right. It just says something like "if the details you provided match, then the user will be sent a temporary password." There is no way to know if the email actually was sent. It was worth a try anyway. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:32, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have now closed the appeal. You don't need to know that, and there's nothing more for you to do, but I mention it just in case you may be interested in seeing what I wrote in response to your comments. JBW (talk) 17:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
It looks like your naming of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/1+1=yes broke the bot's parsing, which is leaving a red linked "close" case in the set. Maybe rename to second oldest? Izno (talk) 19:14, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah it was fun trying to get the tags to work on that, and I didn't check what happened to the table. I'll rename it. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:24, 5 December 2024 (UTC)