User talk:Inlandmamba/Archive 1

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Source information needed for File:The Last Dymaxion.jpg

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Unblock request

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Inlandmamba (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Ibogianeclinic". The reason given for Ibogianeclinic's block is: "{{spamusernameblock}}".

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Accept reason: Collateral damage due to spam username block; apologies for the inconvenience. — madman 20:10, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

{{adminhelp}} You have placed two "adminhelp" templates on this page, but have not said what help you want. If you have a request to make then place one adminhelp template, and explain what help you want. Adding two copies of the same template will not get help any quicker, and serves only to make a little more work for the admin who responds, scrolling down the page and finding the surplus one to remove it. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:30, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

{{adminhelp}} (adminhelp removed as the unblock automatically does the same thing) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

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Request reason:

Sir, I was using my account about 12 hours ago. My wireless internet router dosen't have a password on it. Someone, I don't know who, may be someone from neighbours might be using the same connection. All of a sudden my account was blocked. The reason given to me was that my IP is being used by two accounts. I told Mr William in the chatroom the whole story. He went away without even listening to my side of story. Sir, I had created my Wiki account in 2009. My question to the person who blocked my account is *WHY* would I be using a second account? I have been doing edits using my own account. I have even placed articles in review process and those were accepted. I know I started using it in 2011, but I had created it back in 2009. You can check the statistics to confirm this fact. In know I couldn't understand how to use Wikipedia earlier and a helper in the chat room *Chzz* helped me. My account is blocked and I cannot work here any more. Please I would need your help Sir. Thank you. Inlandmamba (talk) 10:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Accept reason:

See below for details. Amalthea 14:16, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi,
I don't know why you would use a second account. There could be several reasons to do so: Maybe you didn't want to be associated with certain topics, which can actually be an appropriate use of an alternate account; Maybe you knew that the new article was rather spammy and didn't want it associated with your account; Maybe you created the account at work when you didn't have access to your original account; Maybe it was intended as a role account and you didn't know that it was against Wikipedia policy.
I do think it is extremely unlikely that two accounts edit Wikipedia from the same IP at more or less the same time, and then both show up one after the other on IRC to ask for an unblock.
But in the end it doesn't matter too much to me. I want to believe there is little chance of this problem recurring, there was no lasting damage, and like you said this account has made many constructive edits. Whatever is true, I'm going to unblock this account since I hope it improves Wikipedia.
I ask several things of you though:

1. If your WiFi really is unprotected, you should change that immediately. This mustn't happen again.
2. Stick with one account. If you ever think it necessary to use a second, study WP:SOCK, and discuss it with someone first.
3. If you share your Internet connection with others and you know that they edit Wikipedia, please read and follow WP:SHARE.

If you have any questions about this, please feel free to ask.
Amalthea 14:16, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

inappropriate tags

Hi.

Can you please consider you rationale for articles for speedy deletion thoroughly please before adding such tags? You also added two other tags, one on notability (which i'll ignore since it the speedy was because of notability) and one about sources. I named four sources in the article; Mind, Nature, Who's Who and the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Can you please explain how 4 independent sources, does not demonstrate coverage? Can you please explain how a fellow of the British Academy is not notable according to WP:PROF? I suggest you remove the speedy tag from Dawes Hicks before the admin does. Please think. Barney the barney barney (talk) 18:23, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

That's OK. Peace. Just please think before acting, because it's frustrating when you're trying to work if you keep getting interrupted by users (who may have the best intentions in the world) adding deletion tags to articles without considering the scope or the sources presented therein. Barney the barney barney (talk) 19:06, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Russian Rivers

Hi! What are u talking about absence of sources?? all of my articles have a reference to Water Register of Russian Federation where presence all basic information about length, mouth and basin of rivers. And it seem that there are no any better sources on this topic. How many references u need for 2-3 statements? I suppose that one source is quite enough.

Also, u said that it's "non-notable topics", why are u thinking this way? Brainwashinguser (talk) 18:47, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Jonathan Avigdori

The article Jonathan Avigdori has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not notable, no reliable sources.

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Yes, Jonathan Avigdori has sources - but imdb.com is not considered a reliable source, even if you've seen it used in other articles. (It's perfectly fine in the External links section, for example for a movie, but that's different from an inline citation.

I'm not disagreeing that this guy is notable, but rather that you could do a much better job of proving it if you were to cite better sources. And cite them properly (see WP:CITE, not just with a naked url as a footnote.

I hope the above doesn't sound too negative - Wikipedia has a lot of rules, and you're doing great work here in creating articles and (I haven't looked, but I assume) other editing. Just keep learning. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I fixed one citation in the article, to show you how this is done. I was going to provide you with some urls for additional sources, but when I searched Google News (archives), there really wasn't anything but the Variety article. So I'm beginning to think that you're ahead of the curve here in terms of creating an article about someone who may well be notable in a few years, but isn't now. [That's one big difference between Wikipedia and Wikia, for example.]

There is a better option that deleting this article (the direction this discussion seems to be headed in, though I'm not going to get directly involved in that: you could userfy it (move to to your user space). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:59, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure if "can" means "will this get the page deleted?" or "is it following Wikipedia rules if I do this?". If it's the first, then yes, the db-author template should suffice, though you might want to help the reviewing admin by pointing out (in your edit summary) that all the edits since your creation on Feb 4 have shrunk the article). That's because db-author can't (properly) be used if there are substantial additions from anyone other than the original author.

If you're asking if the db-author template is the right thing to do, according to the rules, then the answer is that you can do pretty much anything you want - one of the powerful features of a wiki is that it's essentially impossible for a normal editor to do anything irreversible. Even "deletion" by an admin really doesn't delete a page - it just makes the page invisible to everyone except admins. In this case, here are some factors to consider:

• If an admin deletes a page (at your request, in this case), all your edits of that page are no longer visible in the list of your user contributions (edits).
• If you decide you want to recreate the page (let's say that Jonathan becomes famous), as long as you have an offline copy, you're good to go. (If you don't have an offline copy, you need to find an admin to undelete the page, perhaps moving it to user space; that's not a big deal.)
• If you move the page to your user space, and Jonathan does become famous, and you're unaware of that (or you've left Wikipedia), it's possible that some other Wikipedia editor will find the page and use it as the basis for the article about what would then be a clearly notable person.
• If the article is deleted, it isn't cluttering up you user space (on the other hand, since user space is essentially infinite, the concept of "clutter" is a bit of a non-starter; "disorganized" is more typically the problem.

All of which is probably more info than you needed, but hopefully somewhere in there is the answer to your question. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Kegg's Candies

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Speedy deletion declined: Willett Hot Springs

Hello, I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Willett Hot Springs, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. Courcelles 06:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

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Inappropriate speedy delete of Flashspun fabric

You tagged this as "no context" though it clearly stated it was a nonwoven fabric. The fact that you may personally do not understand a technology article is not grounds for deletion. PamD 10:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

It is just a single line without any references or any external links. I admit that I don't know anything about it but if it has been created, it should have some references or some more text to make the article look more encyclopedic. --Inlandmamba (talk) 10:31, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

It's a WP:stub. CSD A1 is for "Articles lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article.", which this clearly is not. Label it as {{stub}} and {{unref}}, by all means. PamD 13:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Custom Toll Free

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Nomination of Jonathan Avigdori for deletion

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Nomination of Cuba at a Cross Roads for deletion

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The Vertical Smile

You nominated this article for speedy deletion, but it seems like a novel by a notable author to me whose spam value (given that it was published in 1971) is pretty low. Please be careful in nominating articles for speedy deletion. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 03:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Drmies,
Thanks for notifying me. There were no references present to prove that the article is in fact written by the author. That is why I tagged it for speedy deletion. As per WP:GOODREFS a citation to a verification must be accurate and it must comprise of independent third party sources, but this article does not have even a single one. All that I could find was that the name of the novel was mentioned in the authors page on Wikipedia Authors page but I thought that another Wikipedia article cannot be used as a primary point of reference. But as you are an admin, I totally respect your declining of the speedy deletion. I'll try not to add any speedy deletion tags in the future.
Thanks
--Inlandmamba (talk) 03:11, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, nominate all yo like, as long as it's correct. ;) In this case, the article simply wasn't promotional, so G11 didn't apply, and it was clear that the subject was a novel by a notable author, so A1 doesn't apply either. That Richard Condon wrote the book is easily verified. Happy days, Drmies (talk) 03:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Custom Toll Free for deletion

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I really don't intend to out you, but it may be a good idea to place a note on the talk pages of the articles you were paid to create noting that paid editing was involved so others can review the work. Kuru (talk) 12:15, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

May I ask on what grounds have you assumed that I do paid editing Kuru?
--Inlandmamba _{(talk to me)} 15:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Take the advice or leave it; there is no policy prohibition against paid editing, and our COI guidelines are just that - guidelines. I am simply concerned that you are straying into some ethically gray areas, and I think you're generally a good editor. Again, I have no desire to out you; if you'd like to continue the discussion, I would suggest leaving me an e-mail. Kuru (talk) 23:08, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Well Kuru, I don't know what you are talking about and why I should email you about anything. I'll just stick to my work and if at some point later you think that I have done something against the rules, I'll be happy to have guidance from you. I don't mean to offend you in anyway.
--Inlandmamba _{(talk to me)} 19:23, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

--Johnnyoy YO OS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.182.10.215 (talk) 21:34, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for editing The King's School, Chester. Please use plain English, it makes everything clearer and easier to understand. Thank you, Strangemole (talk) 20:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

That's great :) As for RS, I have found some in the past but a lot of the claims don't seem to be backed up by anything other than primary sources (perhaps it's time to remove some of that info since the tags have been up for some time). You're right - it's an article that badly needs some work! Strangemole (talk) 20:32, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Jinnah

I am slowly moving ahead on the article, it's now in pretty good shape up to about 1928 although there are still changes I want to make before that. Twenty years to go! Drop me a note letting me know your opinion.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:03, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

So far as I can tell, the best source for Jinnah images is the India Office records at the British Library, see here. In my opinion, nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, and 33 are provably taken by agents of the British Government and would have had their Crown copyright expire by now.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:02, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I've left a request for help here. I've also found an image of Jinnah and Nehru which is almost clearly PD and have added to the article. --Wehwalt (talk) 14:17, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

The first link doesn't seem to work. There are no pictures which are being displayed. Have you checked commons? On commons their is a complete category (28 pictures). I think that some of them may be useful as they have been licensed under the Indian domain, but I am unaware of the criteria for pictures which can pass the image check. Here is the category. We can ask any commons admin to do the image check and use the ones which pass the criteria. What do you suggest? We can also put one more picture of Jinnah's tomb. I saw somewhere on Wikipedia that flickr images can also be used. Don't remember the exact policy. I searched on Flickr, here are some useful images.
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 21:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

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We now have three supports, image check done, source check done. There is a good chance it could be promoted soon.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:31, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

That's great. So if the image check has been done, can we bring back those pictures which have been hidden?
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 18:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

No, the images were deleted in response to the image check. We need to prove pre-1946 publication to bring them back.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Okay. This means that we need 3 or 4 more pictures to spice up the article. I'll ask TopGun if he can get something for us.
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 18:41, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Best to do nothing more to the article, other than minor tweaks until it passes. I am currently traveling; I hope once I get home to see if I can do more to prove these images are published pre-1946. I've received no word back from the WP:GLAM people at the British Library about the images of Jinnah in the India Office records. I have no plans to be in London again until next August, unfortunately, so I can't do it myself.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:59, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I commented on your talk page a few hours back. Hoping that you would reply there. I moved to London a few months ago so I can go to the British library to get whatever is needed.
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 19:05, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Oh, great. I must have missed it. If you look at this form and put "Jinnah" in the "Portrait" field, in my opinion, numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, and 33 should be PD without question due to the expiration of Crown Copyright after 50 years. I think #4 is the Jinnah/Nehru image we already have but it would be nice to have it confirmed. If you can go, scan everything you can. I suspect some of the others are the ones we had to delete. Note they say photographer unknown.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Luckily this library is quite near from where I live. If this is their official website. So I just have to go there, ask them for all the images they have of Jinnah, and scan them. Later upload them to commons under my own name or under someone else work. Actually I'm not that familiar with commons, that is why I'm asking.
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 19:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, what I suggest you do is also scan the documentary information on the images as well, whatever the BL has on who took it, what his job was, when it was taken, that sort of thing. Then I'll work with you on the uploading. I will probably have you email me copies.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:28, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

That would be perfect. I'll see if the BL is open tomorrow. If it is, ill scan whatever I can because in the weekdays I won't be able to make it due to work commitments.
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 19:39, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

That would be fine. Send me an email and I will send you one in return, "E-mail this user" over on the left side. We can't send attachments through that. And I would explain to the librarians that you need images of Jinnah that are out of copyright because they were either taken by British officials or were published pre-1946 in British India, or were published anywhere by 1942, and the photographer cannot be ascertained.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:47, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Okay.
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 19:54, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I went to the British library today. Though the images department was closed (opens from Monday to Friday), they told me that I can order the images online if I want to. This is ordering form for it. These are all the things that one needs to know. They told me that if I order them, it would take a minimum of 25 days for the department to send me those pictures.
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 18:32, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, we want to make the article as best we can. I will fill in the form, unless you want to. One of the delegates left me a note at the Truman FAC saying he will look at both that one, and Jinnah, tomorrow. And I think we likely to succeed.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:40, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Please go ahead. If we can get the images online, it would be great. The head of Asian department gave me an email address of the images section for printing. You can use this address to ask them to send the copies directly to you. apac-prints@bl.uk
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 18:46, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

This is the general website for imaging services.
--Inlandmamba _{(fruitful thought)} 18:51, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

It has passed the FAC, which I think we can all be proud of. I will fill out the form today, as I will have limited Internet access due to travel after today for several weeks. I will be online from time to time and can deal with a response from the BL when it comes.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I looked at the image order form and the prices are very high, on the order of over thirty pounds an image. I am wondering if you go there, can you do it with your own scanner for free.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:14, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I just looked at it. It is indeed quite expensive. I will go their to scan some pictures, most probably in the second week of December as I am quite busy with my work now a days. By the way thank you for making it possible.
--InlandmambaPLU (talk) 10:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I enjoyed it. That sounds good. Archive diving is a bit of an occupation for me, I'm afraid.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:05, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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HI,.... Can you tell me why you undid my contributions on Muhammad Ali Jinnah, why they were UN-constractive  ??? nothing was disputed in those contributions, i had properly inserted references and every singal person who know about Jinnah can tell you that Mandela said those words during his visit to Pakistan, or you have undid those because it was not against Jinnah, you think those views like ayesha jalal and S.akbar has are constrictive and any positive views which are from Mandela too are UN-contractive ??? Just change your mind and re-read about Jinnah, if you are presenting disputes about him, than also present positives about him, and let leave all things on reader's to decide........... Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shimly26 (talk • contribs) 04:11, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

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