User talk:Influencerz2018

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Hello, Influencerz2018, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Draft:Influencer Z, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Influencer Z

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Influencer Z, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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It's a bad idea to write an article about yourself

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but it appears you have written or added to an article about yourself, at Draft:Influencer Z. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 18:59, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gottcha, but my purpose it to really only have my bio show up when searched for; am not trying to make myself look "accomplished", is there a way I could do that?

Yes. Get a website at Wix or Squarespace or some place set up for web hosting. Wikipedia is not a free webhost, so you can't do it here. —C.Fred (talk) 19:06, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What if one of my subscribers wanted to make a page about me in the future? Would that get deleted?

It depends...but probably. The article would have to meet the notability criteria for musicians or the general notability criteria; if the article didn't, it would be speedy deleted. It would also have to be written neutrally and based on independent reliable sources. So, frankly, until articles are being written about you in magazines, any future page would be deleted. —C.Fred (talk) 19:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What if I only filled in the bio info page and did not write any biased information; wouldn't that count as just solid info

And what published, independent reliable soures would you be citing? —C.Fred (talk) 17:51, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Influencer Z (October 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 19:27, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Influencerz2018! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 19:27, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Influencer Z (October 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please don't remove previous decline's it isn't helpful

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Influencer Z and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Influencer Z, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Theroadislong (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of Draft:Influencer Z

Draft:Influencer Z, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Influencer Z and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Influencer Z during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 06:35, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Hi, thanks for message. You can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~~~~. I deleted your article because

it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. It is now Wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references, as defined in the link, or they will be deleted. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to you or an affiliated company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, Twitter, Facebook, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what you claim or interviewing you. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
you gave two references, but neither of them mentioned "Influencer Z" anywhere in the text. There is no evidence that you meet the notability guidelines for people or creative professionals. We get hundreds of would-be YouTubers trying to create articles about themselves here, but this isn't social media, you have to meet those criteria, otherwise you are simply not notable enough for an article. The subscriber and view figures you give, even if they were verifiable, are tiny, and there is no indication that you are even a professional, looks like just another non-notable (and very recent) YouTube account.
it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Your article seemed to have no purpose other than to promote yourself and your channel
You have an obvious conflict of interest. If, after reading the information about notability linked above, you still believe that you are notable enough for a Wikipedia article (and that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources), you could, if you wish, post a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles for the article to be created. See also guidance for editors with conflicts of interest and writing about yourself.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You might also want to look at Zoella to see what is needed to get an article here.

It's possible that if it becomes clear that you have no interest in being here other than to promote yourself, and that in doing so you are doing undesirable things like removing "Decline" reviews, that you may be blocked from editing altogether. I hope it doesn';t come to that and that you can make useful contributions Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:01, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]