User talk:I dream of horses/2017/October

Quick Question

Hey! I just have a real quick question, are fun facts or anything like that supposed to be incorporated into an article. I have seen some articles with past "trivia" sections that have since been removed. Lets say a famous band had a song in the soundtrack of a relatively unknown video game, is that fact considered notable? If so, how do I say that? Do I put in a new section titled "trivia" or "notable facts" or "notes" or something like that? Thanks in advance! VTnav (talk) 23:53, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

@VTnav: Trivia sections are highly discouraged, and a sign of incompletion at best. If a famous band had a song in the soundtrack of a video game, then it would only be mentioned if that video game has its own article. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 02:53, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Haha, yes, I know that, but I am talking about on the video games article, like should I include the fact in any sort of section, or is it not notable or something that isn't appropriate for Wikipedia? VTnav (talk) 04:53, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@VTnav: I am a bit of a deletionist, but I'd say if the video game isn't notable, it shouldn't be included in any article. Opinions of others may differ, including the opinions of those who edit video game or music articles.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 05:20, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusing phrasing of the question, but I meant in the article for the video game. Lets say a notable song was in an unknown video game. In the article for the video game, should it be noted that the notable song was in the game. Sorry again for the confusing wording, but thanks for your help! VTnav (talk) 00:15, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

@VTnav: I'm not sure a video game described as "unknown" would have an article to begin with.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 00:51, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

The article I am referring to is Jugular Street Luge Racing, it is not unknown, but it is not very widely renowned or anything. It still meets notability guidelines (according to the Wikimedia Committee at least). VTnav (talk) 02:31, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

@VTnav: One sentence should suffice.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 02:37, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Untitled

Hi how can i become like you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickyjampr78732156 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

@Nickyjampr: How flattering you should ask.

If you try your best in editing, even if you're just correcting typos and spelling mistakes, you'll gain experience and get better at it.

Also, I see you haven't figured out edit summaries and signatures yet, both which can help with communication and preventing confusion. Click on the links I just shared, and go from there. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:06, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of Liberty University people

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Another quick question

So let's say I see a red link on a page, should I just let it be, or should I start creating an article to fill in the red link, or should I make it not a link. Basically what I'm asking is: are red links indicators of topics that need to have an article because they are notable, or are they just errors to be removed? VTnav (talk) 04:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

@VTnav: It depends on context. If the topic isn't ever going to be notable, remove the link. If the topic is notable, create an article. If you aren't sure, just leave it be.

Sometimes, a red link means an inexperienced editor without an understanding of notability added the link---perhaps thinking a red link means that an article will surely appear (or make it so that the article they plan to write won't be deleted), perhaps not, but they're acting in good faith.

Sometimes, it means that a busy but experienced editor is trying to create a "bookmark" of a needed article.

Sometimes, someone makes an educated estimate that something (or someone) will be notable in the future, but realizes it isn't quite there yet---this would be a partial exception to WP:NOTCRYSTAL, since red links are much easier to remove, if necessary, than articles.

Sometimes, red links are edit tests or vandalism that needs to be reverted ASAP.

I'm sure most of the time the addition of a red link varies at least somewhat, but I'm making the point that it depends on context.-- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:46, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Okay, thanks a bunch! VTnav (talk) 04:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

21:30:25, 7 October 2017 review of submission by N aziz

• N aziz (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Hussain AlHindawi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey, I don't really mind that you declined it, don't worry. I just wanted to ask a question, if you don't mind. I knew that my article would be declined form the first try. I don't have that kind of beginner's luck. You declined it's publishing due to the fact that I had no references WHATSOEVER (I know, I'm so dumb, right? I'm sorry though.) What do you recommend is the best amount of references?

{{SAFESUBST:Void|}

@N aziz: A minimum of five sources, give or take two, is the absolute minimum. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 21:47, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Template:Pontiac

Hi I dream of horses. I came across Draft:Template:Pontiac while checking on pages flagged for non-free content use violations. File:Pontiac Logo-en.png was being used in the template which is something not allowed per non-free content use criterion #9. I removed the file, so I hope that doesn't affect your review. If an image is needed for the template, you might want to suggest that the creator check Commons for a suitable replacement. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:50, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Oops, good catch! It won't affect my review.

How can I catch this in the future? -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 21:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

You can check a file's licensing by clicking on the image and looking at the copyright tag. If the file is licensed as "non-free" or "fair use", and is uploaded locally to WIkipedia, then it shouldn't be used. If the file is licensed using a free license or as public domain, or is from Wikimedia Commons, then it's probably OK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:28, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Okay, thanks. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 00:06, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

04:54:28, 8 October 2017 review of submission by Sobukwelu

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  • Draft:Taos Wynn (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

@Sobukwelu: Not sure what you're trying to tell me. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 05:35, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

A message from Shanelle N. Waithe

My submission on Brain Targeted Teaching Model was declined because of inline citation. I have included 8 references using APA style. Can you assist me in understanding how I can improve in getting this article approved? Shanelle N. Waithe (talk) 13:47, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

@Shanelle N. Waithe: To summarize WP:REFBEGIN, you can put references between <ref> and </ref> so you insert it in the body article. There's a few templates starting with the "cite" ({{cite web}}, {{cite news}}, etc.) that can help with the formatting process.

There's a few issues with overly technical language and formatting, but that's easily corrected.

I notice there's a lot of drafts written about educational theories, like brain targeted teaching model. Do you know if there's a reason why? -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 21:12, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

A message from 74.88.113.77

74.88.113.77 (talk) 00:59, 10 October 2017 (UTC) how in the world did you detect this edit

I'm not sure how Wtmitchell detected your edits, but I used a program called huggle. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

That 70's Show

I do not believe this edit is anything but salutary and an improvement. Level 3 warning? Ever watched the show? 68.175.106.35 (talk) 01:07, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Apologies---the level 3 warning was an error on huggles' part, and no, I haven't watched the show.

In this circumstance, it's common to just remove the warning. I'm sure you know that's allowed. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:10, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I am not worried about the warning. I would like to restore the edit. 68.175.106.35 (talk) 01:11, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I've read your talk page at this point. You would know how to restore the edit yourself. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I do know how, of course. I just didn't want any problems given the warning. I guess I can restore it now. 68.175.106.35 (talk) 01:17, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I see you did it. Thanks. 68.175.106.35 (talk) 01:18, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that's right. I restored it, and then immediately forgot that I did so; I occasionally do things like that, but rarely online. Ah, the flimsy nature of working memory...

Anyways, glad to see this was resolved, in any case.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:20, 10 October 2017 (UTC) (Fixed {{unindent}} at 23:57, 10 October 2017 (UTC)) and {{small}} at 23:58, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Food

Im neurorebel, but dont tell anybody. That list should mention about of food avaible worldwide, like aliums, sambucus, and mussels.--167.57.164.2 (talk) 03:17, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Not sure what list you're talking about. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:21, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

this list. --167.57.164.2 (talk) 03:40, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

I would encourage you to find a few sources to back up your claim and then add the foods you think has worldwide origins.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:52, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank You

I accidentally erased the contents of the endecott pear tree thank you for restoring it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.61.222 (talk) 3:41 AM, October 11, 2017‎

No problem. Be careful next time. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Brian Hart (October 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Brian Hart and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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SwisterTwister talk 15:41, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

@SwisterTwister: I'm not the one who created the draft. You'll have to inform the actual draft creator.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:20, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Manny Pacquiao

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IHM Individual Health Management

Dear Dreaming of horses...... Moreno declined the first draft on 27th of September, because the references were missing. Consequently we included the missing references. Afterwards you declined the article without any reason - obviously you didn't notice that the references were included. Therefore I ask you to not block this article for any unsubstantial irrational reason or feelings , as this article is scientifically based and exerts a substantial contribution for society. Best regards, the authors

@Beatrice11111: also David.moreno72 just so we're on the same page I don't think I communicated clearly. Apologies.

It appears as though you moved a link, added a couple of numbers, and then removed them. That wouldn't be "adding references".

Next time, please add inline citations before submitting again. I'll decline the draft again for now.

Just curious, though. How many people are using the account? -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 09:03, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation

Regards 85.193.199.225 (talk) 00:14, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!

This is just a "Thank you" for welcoming me to the English Wikipedia! Wipe it off the map (talk) 00:16, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Cornish Timeline of History

Hello, could you please provide the reference on where you found the information supporting a Cornish/Danish alliance in 807? The reference supplied is not reputable or verifiable.

Thanks,

Haggis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haggis Warrior (talk • contribs) 00:16, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Haggis Warrior: Can you link to the article you're talking about?  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 00:19, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Linda Sarsour

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Draft: Robert Hardgrave Rejection

Hello. I have submitted this article three times. The first reviewer asked for better referencing of the 12 published sources I mentioned, including magazines and award nominations. The second rejection asked for evidence of a 4th work of art in a permanent collection (there were already three). I added a fourth. You rejected the article telling me that three works in permanent collections would be evidence of notability. Is the 4th one too many? Could you please reconsider the article...to see the artist's notability, just google Robert Hardgrave and click on "images". Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidCM70 (talk • contribs) 4:11 am, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

@DavidDavidCM70: I'm not going to google Hardgrave. It's your job to prove that he is notable.

No such thing as too many reference, but I'm not Hardgrave has presumed notability, which was why I rejected the draft.

I don't review drafts on request, since if I do, I may receive too many requests to handle. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 09:11, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

2nd Anglo-Afghan War and the section derived from Masters book

Hello I Dream Of Horses, I have reverted your reversion of an named (but not much more) contributor. This is what I wrote on the talk page:

Cureel has come forward and stated that Master's book does not mention the 2nd Anglo-Afghan War, that the alleged incidents were not about the 2nd Anglo-Afghan war. That does not look like vandalism, it looks like an informed position. Masters was writing some decades after his experience near, not in, Afghanistan and otherwise wrote popular fiction. Unless there is a positive discussion about the exact location and time that Masters is writing about and a defence of this author as a credible source, I wish to remove discussion of his comments from this entry.

Is this alright to you? Thanks for your contributions. Brunswicknic (talk) 13:02, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Brunswicknic: I reverted the edit because it blanked a section without explanation (or perhaps I need to renew my knowledge of STiKi), so sure. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 15:07, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for reply. Yes I appreciate your reason, however I noticed their reason, thought that seemed good faith and informed, and I thought it would be good to push for an informed debate on that marginal content. I apologise for my still learning wiki-protocols. Again, thanks for your wiki-work Brunswicknic (talk) 09:17, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

@Brunswicknic: No need to apologize.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 18:04, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

recent edits

@I dream of horses: yeah I didn't make any edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.20.37.89 (talk) 8:27 pm, October 19, 2017‎

Someone from your IP address did over two years ago. I'd suggest making an account if you want to edit. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 05:33, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Ishwardi City

>> Wiki City page. City of Ishwardi (Rajshahi Division)

https://wiki.city/en/bangladesh_rajshahi-division_pabna-district_ishwardi

>> is this ref to start the page. I will try to find more ref asap I can.Dinu Alam 12:38, 20 October 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinu Alam (talk • contribs)

@Dinu Alam: One wouldn't use user generated content to cite anything, including a Wikipedia article. It isn't a reliable source. Good effort, though. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 18:13, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Peter Hore

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A message from Consultingexpert

Hi! The external link I added to the Bain & Company page is an in-depth look at Bain's firm culture and interview process. You can explore the content if you would like at https://managementconsulted.com/consulting-interviews/bain-interview-and-culture/ . Consultingexpert (talk) 19:13, 20 October 2017 (UTC) consultingexpert

@Consultingexpert: Just curious; are you somehow affiliated with or paid by Bain & Company? -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 19:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

It looks like at least three of the people working for the company whose website consultingexpert has been inserting links to are former Bain employees. See: https://managementconsulted.com/about/ . Similar ties appear to exist between that company's staff and the other consultancy firms whose WP articles have been edited by consultingexpert: McKinsey, Deloitte, and BCG. This begs the question as to whether a WP:COI exists here. Zazpot (talk) 15:33, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@Zazpot: It doesn't even beg the question. There is, undoubtedly, a conflict of interest.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 17:15, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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09:57:22, 22 October 2017 review of submission by 09bryant

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  • Draft:List of Formula E team records (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This page doesn't contain any sources as it is a page of statistics just like List of Formula E driver records which also doesn't contain any sources. If you want to know how I got the statsitics I can send you the spreadsheets I used to calculate the statistics. This page is very similar to the page listed above and as Formula E is a very young racing series there is little to no people doing this sort of statistics, so Wikipedia would be the only source out there for people wanting to learn about Formula E. I hope after realising this paged situation you reconsider the submission.

@09bryant: I'm not going to reevaluate just because other articles fell through the cracks. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 19:45, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

about the film Après coup

Hello I dream of horses There is no reason to reject the article "Après coup", there are all the references to prove this film really exists and is relevent to constitute an article. If you notice some problems, please rewrite this article in the appropriate way. Best regards Cutlass81 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cutlass81 (talk • contribs) 12:23, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

@Cutlass81: The burden is on you to provide sources. I sometimes edit drafts, but never on request of the draft creator, because again, the burden is ultimately on you.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 19:46, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

OK you're right, the burden is on me! But I don't understand why you rejected this draft as an article. I provided some appropriate sources, this draft deserves to become an article, the film "Après coup" is registred on imdb, and it's selected in various festivals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cutlass81 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Left message and guide links on Cutlass81's talk page. Jim1138 (talk) 22:23, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

@Cutlass: Maybe things would be clearer if you read the links in the decline message, which is similar to the one Jim1138 gave you.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 00:40, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Not sure what happened when I submitted my draft

When I submitted my draft it changed to

1. REDIRECT Draft:Tom Longboat Award

What does that mean because i was informed that i submitted a blank article?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandsant22 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Brandsant22, not sure exactly what happened, but I've restored your original (full-of-text) draft. It's still at Draft:Tom Longboat Award, but at least there's text now. Primefac (talk) 00:57, 26 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Halloween cheer!

Moved halloween cheer here at 02:47, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style

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Halloween cheer!

Moved cheer here

I have never even seen it in real life, but it seems like fun. Have a nice time :)
—usernamekiran(talk) 17:32, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

It's certainly fun for children. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 21:38, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

PAOK BC revert

hello, i am sending this message because you reverted my edit on PAOK BC. Section about European Record. The article i put is up to date instead of the one that you reverted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitris1408 (talk • contribs) 09:46, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

@Dimitris1408: Actually, Marchjuly is the person who reverted your edit, not me. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 16:46, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

@I dream of horses: I think you're mistaken. I've never edited P.A.O.K. BC as far as I can tell. I think this might be the revert that Dimitris1408 is referring to, but it was made by an IP. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:47, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Huh. Confusion all around. Apologies to you both, Dimitris1408 and Marchjuly.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:08, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Sven Hassel

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