User talk:Helix Carbon

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Hello, Helix Carbon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, visit the Teahouse, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! CNMall41 (talk) 08:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Helix-Carbon GmbH (August 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by CNMall41 were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please see WP:ORGCRIT and WP:INCITE.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Helix-Carbon GmbH and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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CNMall41 (talk) 08:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks for reviewing the draft so quickly- I had the feeling it would not stand up to scrutiny.. Is it possible at all to create a wikipedia article with little or no third party references? There is a fairly large, international community around Helix Carbon GmbH, but the overlap with people knowledgeable in the ways of wikipedia is probably close to nonexistent. I myself have no idea what I'm doing. I just want to create the most basic of articles- just a few facts / company history.. that sort of thing. Unfortunately, I can only find references to Helix on social media or from the Helix website. How would I even get started with something like this? Cheers! Jesse Helix Carbon (talk) 08:50, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A company isn't entitled to have a Wikipedia article simply because it exists. If no sources exist about this company that are both reliable (has an established reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight) and independent (has no personal, political of financial interest in the company), then this company simply isn't notable enough for inclusion. We have no interest in what a company wishes to say about itself. We care only about what other third-party sources have chosen to write about it on their own, without any inducement. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have a stack of aviation magazines here with articles, blurbs, etc about Helix- but they are just that- magazines. I don't know how to link to them. As far as I can tell, they are not online. What is online, is a whole mess of dealer websites selling Helix products, and a large community on social media- both of which are, as I understand, not accepted by wikipedia.

Actually, the more I dig around online, the more I am finding.. For example, the university FH Aachen has several articles mentioning Helix, as does the "Future Lab Aachen" (whatever that is).. and Helix is listed as a certified Lärmmessstellen (noise test facility) by the Luftfahrt-Bundesamt (the avaiation regulatory body in Germany). Researchgate.net mentions Helix in a study on Inflight Transition of a Propeller from Propulsion to Regeneration Mode (whatever that means). RWTH (another university) mentions helix in an article about electric aircraft... and the Federal Ministry of Education and Research in Germany has a post / article about Helix regarding electric turbofan something something...

All of this I would have found, and cited, had I been given more than two minutes before being banned and having my IP address blocked when I tried to change my username (as was requested in the initial ban). I am new to Wikipedia- This is my first attempt at contributing. I believe there is an article on wikipedia titled "please do not bit the newcomers".. I feel as though I have been bitten.

Please advise me on how I should proceed from here. Helix Carbon (talk) 08:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your account name is the first issue that must be resolved. As the block notice below says, you must place the following code at the bottom of this page:

{{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}}

Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked.

I'd advise that you review Wikipedia's username policy before choosing a new name. Accounts are meant for individuals, and cannot represent companies, organizations or groups of people. The account name must therefore reflect individual use.

You must also state whether you represent this company. If you do, then you must review the conflict of interest guidelines and paid editing disclosure policy, and make the necessary disclosures. Even if you don't represent the company, it's worth reading to understand why Wikipedia is so strict about demanding transparency from users that are affiliated with the subjects they write about.

Assuming that your unblock is successful, then reviewing Help:Your first article is a good starting point. This contains advice on how to find sources that are considered reliable, independent, and have significant coverage of the topic. That includes sources that are offline, such as books, magazines and newspapers. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that- and thought, instead of changing just the username which is still linked to a questionable email address, i would just sign up for a personal account with my personal email address and name, etc.. that's apparently when the IP block happened. I can go ahead and request a username change- but i think it still makes more sense- especially from wikipedia's point of view- if i just scrap the questionable account altogether and sign up for an account with my name / address, right? either way- i'll put in the unblock / username change request right now. Helix Carbon (talk) 09:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Helix Carbon! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! CNMall41 (talk) 08:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because it has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Also, your username gives the impression that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

If you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization, you may request unblock and a username change. In your reasons, you must follow all these steps:

Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement; and
Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked; and
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Provide a new username.

To do this, insert the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked.

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This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Helix Carbon (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

JKHamad (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

was unaware of the rule Helix Carbon (talk) 09:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

That would be fine as a new username, but your username is only one small aspect of the block. Please discuss your violation of WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 12:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware that this username would be acceptable on the German Wikipedia, but it isn't here. Changing it here will change it there, too. Do you want to do that? There are things we can do if you don't. 331dot (talk) 12:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just found my old (personal) wikipedia account (I don't think I ever used it).. can I just delete the Helix Carbon account altogether and use this one? I would still address the WP:COI and WP:PAID issues if necessary. I would also be happy with writing the most absolute barebones article possible (this company exists. period.) and then suggesting / providing other information / citations / etc.. via the talk page- if that is a thing that can be done. Jessehamad (talk) 06:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with that- or I am happy to use an old account (that I completely forgot existed) and just delete the helix carbon account altogether.. did you see my message from my old account (jessehamad)? Helix Carbon (talk) 13:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]