User talk:Geraldo Perez/Archive 6
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TV colours
You've had experience with TV articles while many of those participating at the infobox television season haven't. That means I don't need to give you the background on why what happens happens. This colour issue has to be addressed in several places, the infobox and episode tables in season articles, series overview tables on LoE pages, episode tables on LoE pages where the series doesn't have content transcluded from season articles and main articles where the series doesn't have an LoE page or season articles. Rather than gum up Template talk:Infobox television season with content about other templates and issues not strictly relevant to that template (the discussion has already generated 12,000 words there), I've created a page in my userspace as a sort of think-tank. It's not live yet and I would appreciate comments/criticism if you have some time. I'd like to make sure that my message is clear before starting discussion. Please see User:AussieLegend/TV colour for more information. --AussieLegend (✉) 14:22, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Tessa Netting
Yes she is a cast member when u had deleted my post on Bunk'd and I have proof cause I am subbed to her Youtube channel and if u dont believe me go search it Starrgirl817 (talk) 03:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) YouTube is not an entirely reliable source. If you can find a reliable source, please provide one. Amaury (talk) 03:14, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Starrgirl817: We have good references for the rest of the cast, the metadata in the cast image provided by Disney shows the cast, names them and gives their roles. Tessa Netting is not in that picture or mentioned on any Disney site. Claim to be in cast is dubious. Either find a reliable source of that info, her personal youtube channel is about as far from reliable as you can get, or wait for the first episode to air so we can get the cast from the credits. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:38, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Girl Meets Fish
Hi,
Please don't reverse my edit on the Girl Meets World page since Girl Meets Fish was 119 in production. This is the source: Clapboard
- @Channelboy: There is a superior source in the article and we are going with that until a better one shows up. A page on Wikia is not a reliable source of anything. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
But you're wrong. Girl Meets Fish is a Season 1 episode, everyone knows it. There are some clips from the episode in the Season 1 Behing the scenes video so it can't be 219.
- @Channelboy: Please contribute to existing discussion about this issue at Talk:List of Girl Meets World episodes#Girl Meets Fish Confusion. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:24, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Stop
Put the editing that I had on earlier Jamesbonci2018 (talk) 19:45, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't revert any of your edits until the one you made after you dropped the above message? Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:59, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Irony
Isn't that ironic, Geraldo? (The number of viewers.) Heh. Amaury (talk) 20:54, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Can't seem to figure out why the entire row for E2 is gray, unlike the other rows. Amaury (talk) 02:28, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Looks like this edit caused it, but I can't immediately see the issue. Amaury (talk) 02:32, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: Not a bug, it is a feature. You only noticed it because ep1 doesn't have a summary. The idea is to provide some contrast between the info row and the summary info in the same episode entry. The shading isn't done if there is no summary. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:48, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Damn. I spent the better part of 10 minutes doing all sorts of jazz via Show preview to see if I could figure it out, and all it took was actual knowledge of things! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:05, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: Not a bug, it is a feature. You only noticed it because ep1 doesn't have a summary. The idea is to provide some contrast between the info row and the summary info in the same episode entry. The shading isn't done if there is no summary. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:48, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, Geraldo, haha, but there's a broken infobox at the bottom, but I can't find the breaking edit and there have been so many updates since then. Amaury (talk) 04:38, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: Transcluded template Template:It's a Laugh Productions got corrupted. I reverted the last edit on that template as it was causing corruption in all the articles that template got used in. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:49, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Thanks!
- By the way, Nickelodeon is premiering this tonight, and from the looks of it being one hour, it looks like it's a new series since that's how Henry Danger and 100 Things to Do Before High School debuted. However, I'm not entirely sure and I'm not seeing anything anywhere, not even under the upcoming section, on List of programs broadcast by Nickelodeon. Amaury (talk) 16:47, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: There is some stuff that talks about it using a basic web search. IMDb says series to begin 2016. Other stuff says a TV Movie. Looks like a pilot that may or may not get picked up. I didn't do too much of a search to see if Variety or some other major source picked it up. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Guess we'll just have to wait. There will probably be more info after it airs tonight within the next few days/week. Amaury (talk) 17:40, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: There is some stuff that talks about it using a basic web search. IMDb says series to begin 2016. Other stuff says a TV Movie. Looks like a pilot that may or may not get picked up. I didn't do too much of a search to see if Variety or some other major source picked it up. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- By the way, Nickelodeon is premiering this tonight, and from the looks of it being one hour, it looks like it's a new series since that's how Henry Danger and 100 Things to Do Before High School debuted. However, I'm not entirely sure and I'm not seeing anything anywhere, not even under the upcoming section, on List of programs broadcast by Nickelodeon. Amaury (talk) 16:47, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Possibly unfree image
I have less experience in this area, but I know that some users upload images and tag it as their own work, when it is not. I suspect that of this image. I'm not sure of how to contest it. — Confession0791 talk 16:56, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Confession0791: Yeah pretty obvious when the uploader says they took it but provide a small image. At the very least it can be tagged as missing proof of source or permission. Need to look at image on commons logged in to your commons account and under "more" do a google image search to find other places used. This one used in lots of places and I found one that gave who the author really was. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:16, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Another One
SPARF-a-Rooney for Liv and Maddie is airing as part of season two, but has a production code of 303. Unlike Girl Meets World, however, it doesn't appear to be a mistake, they're just doing it that way for some reason. I know, the weirdest things interest me. Amaury (talk) 21:19, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Removal of Content on See Dad Run Page
Hi, I noticed that you removed an episode list on the See Dad Run page. I dont know if this was an accident or not so I am issuing a warning. Thanks TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 05:40, 5 August 2015 (UTC) Hello, I'm Theeditorofallthingswikipedia. I noticed that you recently removed some content without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.
- @Theeditorofallthingswikipedia: I don't appreciate the canned newbie messages. I left an edit summary that well-explained why I remove content that required a reference. Suggest reading edit histories before asserting that I didn't explain why I removed inappropriate content in an edit history. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:43, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- I dont appreciate the harsh response. I assumed no one would remove such a large amount of content that seems proper just because it doesnt have a refrence. I assumed that one would find a reference to back the infornmation first before resorting to deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theeditorofallthingswikipedia (talk • contribs) 05:46, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Theeditorofallthingswikipedia: You reap what you sow. You are wrong in the case of unreferenced future episode info and all future show info. They required references on entry. I left an edit summary explaining the need for references. The onus is on the person adding the info to provide the support for it. Also the edit I made restored some content that was removed without explanation at the same time the unreferenced future info was added. Suggest you gain some more experience before giving warning messages to experienced editors. A polite question instead of a canned message will usually lead to a more collegial exchange. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:57, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- I dont appreciate the harsh response. I assumed no one would remove such a large amount of content that seems proper just because it doesnt have a refrence. I assumed that one would find a reference to back the infornmation first before resorting to deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theeditorofallthingswikipedia (talk • contribs) 05:46, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the cookie. Template messages are most effective on new editors and can be used as instructional aids for other editor issues, not just vandalism. They just tend to annoy more experienced editors. See WP:DTR for more about this. I should have cooled down before responding and I apologize for my tone. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn image
Hi G, is the infobox image at Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn working for you? I see a broken file. I've purged my cache, and even used a different browser. Although I can see the image at the top of File:Nickyrickydickydawnlogo.gif, the thumbnail appears as broken to me. Am I nuts? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: Looks fine to me. I have no idea what the problem could be. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Weird. Thanks for lookin! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:03, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- (Oh, and thanks for adding the colon to my file link. Sorry about dat!) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Jessie is ending after the end of Season 4 in 2015
As previously reported, Disney Channel’s Jessie is concluding its run at the end of Season 4 and 101 episodes.
Cameron Boyce is not in this spin-off, nor is Debbie Ryan. Cameron is in a new show called "Gamers Guide to just about everything" or something close to that title. (M o r p h | C | T) 19:17, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Jrooksjr: It is well-referenced that Jessie is ending after the current season. Where is the reference that gives the actual end date? Everyone is well aware that the cast has moved on, that is not the issue but until the date of the final episode is determined we are speculating as to when it will actually end. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:33, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Girl Meets World
Thanks!
So if that's the case, does he even need to be noted as having guest starred on List of Girl Meets World episodes? Amaury (talk) 14:41, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: According to discussion talk page he never got a "guest star" end credit, he was never a "guest star". He was always credited as "Starring" in the end credits when listed. He was actually part of the main cast in the first season, he just wasn't in the opening credits where the other actors were shown so consensus was to list him as "starring" in the episode summaries when he was credited as such in the end credits. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:50, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- My memory was hazy. Discussion on talk page is more complete about why decisions were made to list him the way he was in the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- In some episodes of season 1, Fogelmanis was identified as guest starring at the end - definitely the first seven episodes aired, plus six others during the rest of the season. For all the rest, it showed him as "also starring", not long after the opening credits sequence has run. Also, the "Girl Meets Fish" episode, which aired two weeks ago (and there's still questions about its production code, though clearly produced with the season 1 set), billed Fogelmanis as "also starring" near the beginning, like with season 1. MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- He should be listed in the episode summary exactly how he was credited in the episode itself. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:08, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- As I just went thru the article, after reverting Amaury's edit regarding this, I am seeing Fogelmanis listed as "guest star" in all of the season 1 episodes, which is not the case. Not sure when those edits were made, which changed the billing in the affected episodes from "also starring" to "guest star". May need to search through the article's history, or reverify by watching each episode, to restore where he was billed as "also starring". MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:24, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MPFitz1968: That would be great if you could do that. Part of the article's history is in the main article before the split. Edits close to when the episode aired are likely correct and I personally mostly trust that people are adding credits correctly from viewing the episode unless I see something that I can verify is obviously wrong. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, MPFitz1968! It was actually my fault originally. When I went through List of Girl Meets World episodes, I was thinking that "also starring" and "guest starring" were the same thing and thought people were just being inconsistent with the label to use. Amaury (talk) 18:24, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, Amaury. Good thing I left notes in my edit summaries, regarding Fogelmanis' billing credit, going back thru the edit history of the parent article (before the episodes were split into their own article in the spring); makes it a bit easier. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:27, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, so I've only done this on Dog with a Blog, but before I do it on other articles, only to end up confused and having to go back and fix things (like with the bold stuff), is co-starring counted as guest starring? As an example, only Heather was under Guest Starring in the credits of tonight's episode here, but I included the people under Co-Starring as well, and I did that with the last episode as well.
- Sorry, credits sometimes just confuse me, especially ones that seem the same, but are actually different. Amaury (talk) 02:26, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, Amaury. Good thing I left notes in my edit summaries, regarding Fogelmanis' billing credit, going back thru the edit history of the parent article (before the episodes were split into their own article in the spring); makes it a bit easier. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:27, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, MPFitz1968! It was actually my fault originally. When I went through List of Girl Meets World episodes, I was thinking that "also starring" and "guest starring" were the same thing and thought people were just being inconsistent with the label to use. Amaury (talk) 18:24, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MPFitz1968: That would be great if you could do that. Part of the article's history is in the main article before the split. Edits close to when the episode aired are likely correct and I personally mostly trust that people are adding credits correctly from viewing the episode unless I see something that I can verify is obviously wrong. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- As I just went thru the article, after reverting Amaury's edit regarding this, I am seeing Fogelmanis listed as "guest star" in all of the season 1 episodes, which is not the case. Not sure when those edits were made, which changed the billing in the affected episodes from "also starring" to "guest star". May need to search through the article's history, or reverify by watching each episode, to restore where he was billed as "also starring". MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:24, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- He should be listed in the episode summary exactly how he was credited in the episode itself. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:08, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- In some episodes of season 1, Fogelmanis was identified as guest starring at the end - definitely the first seven episodes aired, plus six others during the rest of the season. For all the rest, it showed him as "also starring", not long after the opening credits sequence has run. Also, the "Girl Meets Fish" episode, which aired two weeks ago (and there's still questions about its production code, though clearly produced with the season 1 set), billed Fogelmanis as "also starring" near the beginning, like with season 1. MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
@Amaury: Co-starring is a minor credit and normally not listed in the summary. These are generally background characters with a few lines but without a significant role in the episode. Sometimes listed with a role name instead of a character name. We should stick with Guest star, Special guest star and in general ignore actors with a co-star credit. We should list actors in the summary exactly as listed in the credits with minor formatting changes to meet wiki MOS. Generally the major recurring characters get a "Guest star" credit as well as any non-regular actors with a significant role in the episode. Special guest star usually goes to more well known famous actors when they appear and sometimes actors from other related shows for crossovers. I get suspicious when I see Special guest star as I suspect that people are making a non-credit judgment of importance or fame. "Also starring" or just plain "Starring" a generally main characters who didn't get put in the opening credits for some reason. Sometime will see "special appearance by" for real famous major actors. In general list in summary as credited as it does matter. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:03, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Feedback requested
Hi GP, could I please solicit your feedback here? Short story, the fans have begun adding YouTube shorts of this series in a new Mini Movies section. Some of these mini movies are 40 seconds long, like this one. I think we're starting to get into fancruft area, but I thought I'd see what you think. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:16, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I think a little bit of fancruft should be permitted if it does not become excessive. I like to encourage new/younger editors to contribute and fear being too restrictive beyond enforcing policy and MOS can be demotivating. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:46, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- 40 second YouTube filler, though? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:53, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I know, looks to be of little value but does look like an attempt at completeness for the whole section so not sure how to set a pruning rule if that section is to exist at all. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:08, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll drop the stick. I appreciate your input. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:11, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I know, looks to be of little value but does look like an attempt at completeness for the whole section so not sure how to set a pruning rule if that section is to exist at all. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:08, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- 40 second YouTube filler, though? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:53, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
For reverting dozens of vandalism edits by a (now blocked) IP user that were made over the course of just a few minutes. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 06:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC) |
Thanks for the barnstar. Geraldo Perez (talk) 12:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Zap2It
Have you noticed that the Episode Guide tab will randomly disappear for any show? Direct links to the episodes in the references still seem to work, but not the episode guide. I was just going through Disney Channel, Disney XD, and Nickelodeon, the latter of which still hasn't had new episodes since July 25 for some reason, to see if new episodes have been added. Most of them have already been added by Rocker and Nyu, but I can't tell if Mighty Med or Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything, for example, have had any more upcoming new episodes added because the Episode Guide link is missing. It's just a bit odd. Amaury (talk) 22:57, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: I've had lots of problems with Zap2it, I think they have some DNS network problems and different locations see different views sometimes. Generally works itself out eventually. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:45, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Piping
Is there any particular reason why you're removing the piping? ViperSnake151 Talk 18:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- @ViperSnake151: With the piping led to a surprise destination articles. The various licensed branded channels owned by Corus are not the same as the originals owned by Viacom and Disney and piping confused that distinction. Nickelodeon and Disney being listed as sister channels in articles otherwise looks real strange to those who know that they are unrelated in any way. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:06, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Bradley Steven Perry and Sabrina Carpenter
Hi, they were confirmed to be dating in the month of May, and trended through Twitter and instagram. It was on their wiki pages that they are dating until someone removed it, so I just added it back for that sake. Vania405 (talk) 14:21, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Vania405: That is personal information for both people and per WP:BLP policy must be supported, in the article, with references to reliable sources. Generally Twitter, intagram, social media sites in general are not reliable sources unless it a verified account of the person talking about him or her self. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:26, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- I brought this up on Sabrina Carpenter's talk page a number of months ago. The reliable sources must be of a high standard, per WP:BLPSOURCES. One source I've seen when the personal info was backed is J-14 magazine, which is written with teens and pre-teens in mind, and tends to have a gossipy leaning. The media level of the two's relationship is not strong - definitely not at the level of Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber from a few years ago. Even if the media level is intense, we still must adhere to the WP:BLP in reporting it. MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:39, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I thought RTitle stood for reference title as they're mostly used for placing the references of upcoming new episodes for shows. Amaury (talk) 05:30, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: Whatever is in Title gets quoted automatically, RTitle is left alone and appended to that ever has been quoted in Title. References are put in RTitle so the footnote number is outside the quotes - see Template:Episode list/doc. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Informative as always! :) In this case, what is actually meant by raw? The full title of something, but it's not officially given or...? Amaury (talk) 05:38, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: Raw just basically means not formatted by the template and just passed through unaltered. Using RTitle for part x is pretty standard as generally that is not part of the title proper so shouldn't be quoted. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:42, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Informative as always! :) In this case, what is actually meant by raw? The full title of something, but it's not officially given or...? Amaury (talk) 05:38, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
FYI
Hello GP. Thanks for the edit here. The editor restored their edit. When I checked it against what was on the web I found that almost everything in it (except for being on the Disney Channel show) was bogus info. Now I may be going over ground that you have already covered but I wanted to make you aware of this just in case. Thanks for your time and for your work here at WikiP. MarnetteD|Talk 02:08, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Piper Curda
Can you please stop changing my edits? I am just posting what is say to be the truth. Pupstoocool24 (talk) 22:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Pupstoocool24 Contentious content like this must be reliably sourced and widely published. There is no leeway here. If you submit it again, I will block you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:17, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Question
I've been meaning to ask. On Girl Meets World, why is there a character table counting how many episodes they've appeared in and their status (main/recurring), but not on other articles? (At least of the ones I've been working on.) Is that a new format other articles will be transitioning to or something else? Amaury (talk) 05:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: No reason, just editor choice for that particular article. Harmless if someone is willing to maintain it when new episodes air. Generally used as an overall summary if there is list of character article so it is a bit strange to see it in this article at this time. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Script Errors
Are you receiving these, too? Some articles, such as Best Friends Whenever, are fine, while others, such as Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything, are producing script errors. I'm even getting one on your talk page, so I'm thinking now it may be a site-wide issue. Amaury (talk) 00:25, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Seems to be fixed now, but the error is cached on many pages. Other than clearing browser cache, is there any way to do a site-wide purge rather than going from article to article (unless it's only cached on the ones I visited while the error was happening)? Amaury (talk) 00:38, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- I saw it too. Just figured it was a site problem and would eventually get fixed. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:40, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Okay, yeah, I only had to purge the cache on pages I visited while the error happened. (It prevented me from editing.) The good thing about a site like Wikipedia when it comes to server issues or whatever is that because it's so big, you know that any issues that do happen will get fixed as soon as possible because at least a staff member or two are on at any given time. :) Amaury (talk) 00:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- I saw it too. Just figured it was a site problem and would eventually get fixed. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:40, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
New split
I apologize for my constant editing for the past several months, but I would like help on creating a split including a "List of Henry Danger Episodes" article. I found some new episode information on season 2, which I will add. I would just like for you to create the new article and format the episode list so I may add the new information. I you wouldn't mind, I woukd also like for you to do the same for Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn and Bella and the Bulldogs. Thank you. Jmichelson27 (talk) 00:56, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Jmichelson27: Just FYI, Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn already has a list of episodes article since it's in its second season. :) Amaury (talk) 01:04, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Jmichelson27: Best thing to do is get article ready for a split by adding the season 2 stuff with table for the episodes that are referenced to be season 2 episodes to the existing main article. Need to see season 2 underway before splitting the episode list to a list of episodes article. Splits are easy to do so I or someone else will likely do the split when appropriate. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@Geraldo Perez: Keep an eye on the article as well if you can. I realize they're trying to help, but they just made very strange edits (see history), which I reverted. (A couple things I failed to note in the summary is that they also removed hidden notes and the extra spaces for each episode (e.g., between DirectedBy and the equals sign), which makes it a disorganized nightmare when adding in directors, writers, etc. in the editor.)
Taking a look at their contributions, I see this isn't their first time. I noticed they were reverted several times on List of Victorious episodes (history) back in late June for the same reason.
(This should also answer their question above.) Amaury (talk) 05:15, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Edits
I hate to sound obnoxious, but why do you undo all of my edits?! Jmichelson27 (talk) 05:09, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- I try to leave a reason in the edit history of all the edits that I make. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Yeah... but your reasons are not reasonable. Season 1 is supposed to have 26 episodes, and only has 25 since complaints of me counting the first one as two episodes, which most references say. However, I would like to work out a compromise: You can remove the silly edits I made (spaces, removing of guidlines), and we can keep the rest... Jmichelson27 (talk) 06:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Your last two edits were fine, but no, it's not two separate episodes. It has two production codes, but it airs as one episode. Amaury (talk) 06:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Jmichelson27: If you don't understand my edit summary reasons, I will expand on them when asked. Check the talk page discussions as well. For the first Henry Danger episode, one set of credits means one episode and it was advertised and sold as a special. We document what is aired and sold - check iTunes and Amazon to confirm. There is an existing discussion on the talk page about this. Best to read and contribute to that and gain concensus for changes you wish to make. All your points were brought up there. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I understand. But several references such as The Futon Critic, Wikia, Zap2it, and even the television listings, count the first episode as two episodes/parts aired in one timeslot. The season was set to air 26 episodes, and was meant for the first one to be counted as two. Now there are only 25 indicated since many unreasonable demands to count it as one episode. Jmichelson27 (talk) 13:31, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Jmichelson27:This discussion belongs on the talk page of the article in question (Talk:Henry Danger#First episode is one 46 minute special) not here. There are also sources that correctly count episode 1 as the single episode that it actually is, listed in talk page discussion. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:02, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Best Friends Whenever#Minor Characters
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Best Friends Whenever#Minor Characters. Thanks. Amaury (talk) 02:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Good night. I need your help. You changed again my edits regarding the music genre of Sofia Carson. Let me explain something: when you sign with a publishing company as BMI, you sign without limitations of genre. Taylor Swift was country and now is pop, and her contract is the same. The music genre of Sofia Carson is clearly pop. You can see her last video released a week ago with more than 4 millions of views in YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kv66hKVU34 is it Latin music? Clearly not. And this wrong reference (extracted from an article talking about an event!) is confusing for her fans and is cited in many communities, including YouTube community. In addition, BMI is not a record label, is simply a royalty collector. More, Sofia is working in her first album. I added a newspaper link featuring a interview with her to support the fact and you eliminated also. For this reason the current information is misleading and against the spirit of Wikipedia. Please advice. What do you suggest? Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EditorRHM (talk • contribs) 23:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- @EditorRHM: I didn't delete what you added, I moved it to the end of the section to keep in time sequence. I added back the genre that was supported by the reference that said she was a singer-songwriter. Not just singer. If you have references to other genres of music she writes, please provide it. What I see so far is info to her being a singer of songs written by other people, not a songwriter who performs her own music - what a singer-songwriter means. I understand that BMI is a royalty collector that she is signed to to represent her. That she is a Latin music singer-songwriter does not preclude other genres, just that is what is supported by references so far. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:16, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Geraldo, thank you very much for your input. Very valuable. As you ask me for references, please read this interview, Sofia, in her own words, defines the music she writes and sings as pop, three times in a single answer. She talks about a Latin flavor, never about Latin genre. It's not an opinion of a third party not a reference in an event coverage article, are her own words. And her new album featuring her own songs are pop.
"I am actually. I just recorded my first track. My sound is definitely pop but more rhythmic pop, a lot of drum beats. I do have the Latin flavor in me because my parents are Colombian so I’d say pop with a bit of an edge. I also write a lot of ballads and they tend to be a little soulful so I guess we can also call it soulful pop."
http://www.kidzworld.com/article/29384-descendants-sons-and-daughters-sofia-carson-as-evie — Preceding unsigned comment added by EditorRHM (talk • contribs) 15:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- @EditorRHM: I removed the reference to latin music genre per your comments and reference and provided a link to the BMI article so there should be no confusion as to their role in her career. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:53, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
That's just my luck, isn't it? I didn't notice the vandalism and it made it into my translation on huwiki. Anyway, I've corrected it there now, thanks for reverting it. nyuszika7h (talk) 13:55, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: I'm not 100% sure it is vandalism or just poor, but good faith, sourcing. I checked a bunch of that IPs edits and found enough significant incorrect info to not trust anything. Some edits seemed OK and others were just blatantly wrong. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:01, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Carson 3
Hi Geraldo.
Respectfully I disagree with your last edit and the undo, I think this information is not relevant. The information is sourced from a social gossip magazine in Colombia and the gossip section of a local newspaper. I respectfully appeal again to your experience, knowledge and common sense and eliminate this info. If you need additional info on her life in Miami, her schools, etc you can source it from very respected and well known media outlets as Sun Sentinel and Miami Herald, this info will be more interesting and relevant for the readers interested in her. I am posting the links for your information and consideration.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/fl-sofia-carson-20150729-story.html http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/celebrities/article29585935.html
And about her music, she is featured in the webpage of Hollywood Records, her record label. http://www.hollywoodrecords.com/artists/sofia-carson/
If this issue is out of your hands, please let me know which is the appropriate way to do it.
Thank you very much again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EditorRHM (talk • contribs) 20:13, 1 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EditorRHM (talk • contribs)
- @EditorRHM: Please start a discussion at Talk:Sofia Carson about your concerns of the reliability of the references. There is other stuff in the article lead section and infobox that uses the same references for birth name and date. Original reference was added by Irn (talk · contribs) who should also be consulted about this. I note that es:Sofia Carson uses the same references so I presumed they were reliable sources but the reliability of the reference may be an issue there as well. Also if you do have more info that can be placed in the "Early life" section, please add it if it is well-referenced. Info about parents and past belongs in article if it is well-referenced so what is in the "Early life" section now is appropriate if the reference for it is valid. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
In response to this, should we then only include the Disney XD air date here for the sixth episode of the first season? Amaury (talk) 22:45, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- That edit added info about a foreign-to-the-original country broadcast. That type of info belongs in the broadcast section of the main article if it is significantly notable, not in an episode table that documents the original channels broadcast. It is more complex for Disney and Disney XD both being US outlets of Disney. If the official outlet is Disney XD I'd say stick with it and ignore early special airing on Disney, maybe note in the summary that Disney Channel had an earlier airing. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:08, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Thanks! Done. Amaury (talk) 23:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Girl Meets I Am Farkle
The new girl meets world "girl meets I am farkle" premiered in Disney channel Canada September 3, 2015. There is no need to correct the release date! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.55.62 (talk) 00:00, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
"Co-lead role" and such
Hi GP, there's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers#Doubts about whether or not labels like antagonist/protagonist/lead/co-lead/supporting role etc should go in the notes section of various filmographies, like here for example. I like the way you think, and I also like that we don't always agree because it helps me to shape my opinions and grow with the project, so I thought I'd solicit your comments if you're at all interested in giving them. I know how the community feels about the protag/antag labels, this is more (for me) about ascribing labels that may sometimes be based on personal interpretation like "supporting role". Anyhow, I'm interested in getting some other perspectives in that discussion. No pressure, however. Thanks sir. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:08, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Possible Copyright
I'm tempted to revert this user's edits to List of I Didn't Do It episodes, List of Liv and Maddie episodes, List of Jessie episodes, and List of Girl Meets World episodes because the summaries are too similar to the Zap2it sources, whether intentional or not, and I know that both in the real world and on Wikipedia, changing some words does not necessarily get rid of copyright issues. However, I wanted to get a second opinion from you. Thanks! Amaury (talk) 03:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: It's marginal - not a lot that can be done to reword a 2 sentence summary and at least an attempt was made to restate the summary rather than making a direct copy. Given that that is the only info available there aren't too many ways to express the limited info in the source. I saw it and decided to let it slide for now. It is close paraphrasing and it is a bit of a judgment call as to whether or not it goes over the line of limited used to be a copyright violation. It would be better, of course, if a summary was written from someone viewing the episode. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:05, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Thanks. I'll leave them for now as well. There's a 99% chance they'll be updated by users when they air (from what I've seen in the past). Amaury (talk) 04:12, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: @Amaury: I've reverted all that user's edits, and warned user of copyright violation. I did simple Google search on the text added, and it matched what was in IMDb, at least. MPFitz1968 (talk) 05:29, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- @MPFitz1968: Good catch. I did do a search on the text for some, not all, of the additions but IMDb didn't come up for me. As IMDb (and wikia too) is user entered like wiki can't always be sure which came first and who copied who or if the same person did both. Best to wait for show to air and get a viewer's summary. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:05, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: @Amaury: I've reverted all that user's edits, and warned user of copyright violation. I did simple Google search on the text added, and it matched what was in IMDb, at least. MPFitz1968 (talk) 05:29, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Thanks. I'll leave them for now as well. There's a 99% chance they'll be updated by users when they air (from what I've seen in the past). Amaury (talk) 04:12, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Episodes
The pages for Bella and the Bulldogs, Nicky ricky, dicky and dawn and 100 things to do before high school are now out dated. The Bella and 100 things has been pushed back a week and 100 things is Moving to Saturday's. NRDD is not currently on the schedule. They episodes are listed on zap it, but is currently having issues. I do have the dates here http://nickalive.blogspot.com/2015/08/nickelodeon-usa-to-premiere-more-brand_91.html that match with zapit. However, The Funton has not updated any of it. once zapit is working is there a way we can or you add this without an edit conflict. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 16:44, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Per WP:QUESTIONABLE and WP:UGC, I don't think Nick Alive is exactly a reliable source. Plus, blogs generally aren't accepted as reliable sources. Amaury (talk) 16:50, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- @WP Editor 2012: We can't use a blog with content provided by anonymous people who say they got it from other anonymous people. Sometimes people get it from a press release and if a press release is hosted on a reliable site we could use that. Zap2it has been a problem a lot gaining access and sometimes different locations seeing different content. It eventually usually sorts itself out. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:26, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- I guess will just wait and see what happens. But TVguide was NRDD taken off the schedlue , so it may be correct. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 18:33, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) By looking at out DirecTV listings, I was able to confirm the Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn part. No new episodes and after this weekend, no more reruns for the time being, though it looks like Nicktoons will still have reruns. Why? I have no idea. Nickelodeon's weird that way—they haven't had a new episode since July 25, and what makes it weirder is that the third season of The Thundermans just premiered on June 27, and only four episodes in, it goes on hiatus, along with Nickelodeon's other shows, like 100 Things to Do Before High School. However, obviously, we can't just use what I saw on DirecTV's listings as we need reliable sources; otherwise, the current content needs to stay until we get a reliable source or Zap2it and The Futon Critic update their listings. Amaury (talk) 18:35, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- I guess will just wait and see what happens. But TVguide was NRDD taken off the schedlue , so it may be correct. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 18:33, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- @WP Editor 2012: We can't use a blog with content provided by anonymous people who say they got it from other anonymous people. Sometimes people get it from a press release and if a press release is hosted on a reliable site we could use that. Zap2it has been a problem a lot gaining access and sometimes different locations seeing different content. It eventually usually sorts itself out. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:26, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
@Geraldo Perez: Quick question. What exactly is the difference between tvlistings.zap2it.com and tvschedule.zap2it.com? The former seems more updated and actually has the name of pages in the browser tab instead of the URL, but is that all? Amaury (talk) 17:14, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: I have no idea why zap2it wants to give two different ways of looking at basically the same think. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:48, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- I figured as such. Thanks. :) Amaury (talk) 18:54, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
47.18.71.124, possibly another Jmichelson27 sockpuppet?
Regarding that IP you just reverted, I have a strong hunch it's indefinitely blocked Jmichelson27. Amaury (talk) 15:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- No question about it, same general geo location, exact same edits. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm looking at your recent revert of 47.18.71.124 at List of Henry Danger episodes, and the editing pattern of the user is similar to the edits of 68.194.218.231 on September 13 [1] as well as Jmichelson27 on September 6, [2] right before the user was indefinitely blocked and the episode list from Henry Danger was split to its own article. I'm pretty sure another sockpuppet of the problem user Jmichelson27. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yep, I added it to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jmichelson27. You may wish to add to that report with more info. Geraldo Perez (talk)
- Moot now as IP blocked. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:34, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Edit war warning
Your recent editing history at Johnny Test shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
You really should know better! Mdrnpndr (talk) 13:53, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Mdrnpndr: If you care to actually discuss this, see Talk:Johnny Test#End date in infobox, a topic I started 2 days ago. If you believe that the plain infobox instructions are inappropriate in this case please make a case for that. I did try for a compromise on this issue. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I have no significant argument with the content of your reverts since that was indeed apparently decided by "consensus" (sigh). I have a very strong quarrel with your constant reverts on this page, which simply are not allowed per WP:3RR (as you almost certainly know). Why haven't you requested semi-protection? Mdrnpndr (talk) 14:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Mdrnpndr: I didn't request a protect because I judged the intensity of the changes was too low to matter much and there were good IP changes to the article. I see this in a lot of article where the end of a series was not clearly announced and I have found that generally an edit summary and a hidden note were sufficient to keep the article stable. Unfortunately some editor don't read (or ignore) the notes or edit summaries. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I have no significant argument with the content of your reverts since that was indeed apparently decided by "consensus" (sigh). I have a very strong quarrel with your constant reverts on this page, which simply are not allowed per WP:3RR (as you almost certainly know). Why haven't you requested semi-protection? Mdrnpndr (talk) 14:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Rather than block Mr. Perez for keeping our article in good form, I have decided it would make a lot more sense to semi-protect the article for a couple of weeks. It seems pretty clear that the various IPs and new users are the same person. Chillum 14:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
As a personal note for my records. I checked my edits on the article in question and could't find any where I made more than 2 reverts in the same 24 hour period so was not close to a 3RR rule violation. As to the spirit of this being an edit war, it guess that can apply but my intent was to remove information that requires a reference that kept being adding by user(s) who would not communicate, ignored edit summary comments and hidden explanatory notes. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:06, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Production codes for a TV show
Now I know you're being arrogantly stubborn and denying what I'm saying. Take yourself to the List of Danny Phantom episodes and you'll see that four episodes are actually 2-part episodes according to production code. Why don't you revert them while you're at it? JoesphBarbaro (talk) 21:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- @JoesphBarbaro: This is not the venue to discuss this. See article talk page where I have already started a discussion and make your points there. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:16, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Will you just listen to me and stop being in your own world? JoesphBarbaro (talk) 21:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- @JoesphBarbaro: There is a proper place for this discussion and my talk page isn't it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Will you just listen to me and stop being in your own world? JoesphBarbaro (talk) 21:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Re: List of Jessie episodes
Thanks. I just forgot to make the adjustment after pasting it. Still, I think forgetting to change Liv and Maddie to Jessie in the split discussion template is worse. -_- Amaury (talk) 22:29, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Johnny Test
https://twitter.com/jatactor/status/614207327277871104 A tweet from one the actors confirming the show's cancellation. The only unconstructive was accusing me of messing up a page I just cleaned! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcoPolo250 (talk • contribs) 23:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- @MarcoPolo250: Discussed on article talk page and no the actor did not confirm the shows cancellation. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Help request at List of Girl Meets World episodes
Hi, Geraldo!
I just updated the series overview code for List of Girl Meets World episodes, but this one's a bit tricky because of the special. Some help in sorting this out would be very much appreciated. Thanks! Amaury (talk) 03:36, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: I don't see how it can be done with the template as coded. I think it best to stick with the hand coded table code for now. AlexTheWhovian coded the template and may have some ideas. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:14, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: I think I got it figured out. Looks like the template does support this case after all. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Just can't win, can we?
The Futon Critic doesn't have the issues of disappearing episode listings, but seems to almost always be outdated. Zap2it is generally more up-to-date, but has disappearing content—notably the episode guides—which they really should fix. The current exception is that Zap2it has nothing on the second season of Bella and the Bulldogs at all. Then you have Nickelodeon arbitrarily changing its schedule willy-nilly, pushing back programs and taking others off the schedule completely (no reruns, either). Until the last Saturday, they had no new episodes since July 25, and if they consider Disney (Disney Channel/Disney XD) competition, then they need to step up their game.
I just wanted to make a note of that, but sorry if this comes off as a rant. It's not; I'm actually just trying to be funny. Amaury (talk) 00:31, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Doc McStuffins
Hi GP, got any strong opinions re: Talk:Doc_McStuffins#Dottie_sourcing? Maybe there's a better/different way to present the content that I'm not seeing yet? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Please note also these changes, particularly the "possibly Dottie". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:22, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Bad Boys (1995)
Can you allow one contraction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.60.230 (talk) 22:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- @67.83.60.230: See Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Contractions, not supposed to use them at all. Too informal for an encyclopedia. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Re: Kirby Buckets
Yeah, I'm the one who inserted the October 7, 14, 21, 28 episodes a while ago, but thrice they've been split into a second season, with the first two times including Viva la Dad from August 19 into that. Were you referring to the production code, perhaps? I see that's all that was changed in your edit. Amaury (talk) 14:29, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- I just added the production code and noted that the episodes added were referenced. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:32, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
BackyardigansKaibigan
Hello, I am here to inform you that a Wikipedian using the username "BackyardigansKaibigan" has tried to edit The Backyardigans' article to make it seem as if the series was produced in America, just because of how Nick Animation Studios lists the series as a Nickelodeon-owned animated show. No animation was done in America, so I do not think that the animated series would qualify as "American," but I do not want to be involved with the issue as BackyardigansKaibigan has been known to personally attack other users. Do you think the current statement of "Canadian/American" is fine, or that we should make it more accurate by simply saying "Canadian" because the series was produced entirely in Canada? Sorry if this is confusing! Derbundeskanzler (talk) 21:18, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) (not involved) @Derbundeskanzler: As should be clear by the field name, only the country—not countries—of origin should be listed. Usually, the best way to answer that is by figuring out where the series first premiered. Amaury (talk) 21:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Derbundeskanzler: This should be discussed at Talk:The Backyardigans#Nationality of show. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry to use your talk page rather than the discussion section for this comment, but I have to point out that Nickelodeon is not the senior company for the show. The creator is from America, but Nickelodeon did not do any work on the actual show itself, and the page should reflect the series' production rather than promotion. Derbundeskanzler (talk) 23:54, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Derbundeskanzler: This should be discussed at Talk:The Backyardigans#Nationality of show. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Protagonist
Hello. You wrote, "Protagonist is an opinion about role in work, main character is objective and per how credited." That's a false distinction. "Protagonist" means "main character", literally, "first player". I do see that the article Protagonist, after saying that they're the same thing, mumbles in the second paragraph that sometimes they mean different things. But it doesn't elaborate, and I am skeptical that there was any substance to it.
Either way, a story, if it has a protagonist at all, it has only one, so "main protagonist" is meaningless.
You mentioned WP:PROTAGONIST, but that's a link to a section that says nothing about the topic at hand. —Largo Plazo (talk) 16:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Largoplazo: From the section linked to "
Interpretations in the form of labels (e.g. protagonist, villain, main character) should be avoided.
". After I undid your edit I checked the context I missed when I checked the diffs and removed all mentions of "main" and "protagonist" from the article and just left "star" as that is objective from how credited. The antagonist may also be a "main" character in some works so "main" can include both. I have generally held for TV series that "main" and "starring" are synonymous and based on the actor being in the opening credits. The starring (main) cast members generally each fit into one or more of the *gonist roles, the lead or first credited is pretty much always the protagonist though. There may be exceptions if the antagonist is the bigger star and negotiates a top billing. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- True, I'd thought of mentioning that the main character (if there is one discernible main character) can be an antagonist. Not using any of these terms is fine, it's just that you weren't removing the term altogether, you were reverting to the redundant one! —Largo Plazo (talk) 16:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Largoplazo: Yes, I made the mistake of not fully checking the context of your valid edit and I apologize for not being more careful. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- True, I'd thought of mentioning that the main character (if there is one discernible main character) can be an antagonist. Not using any of these terms is fine, it's just that you weren't removing the term altogether, you were reverting to the redundant one! —Largo Plazo (talk) 16:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Copyright page notice
Hi GP, I just created a copyright page notice for List of Bella and the Bulldogs episodes. Lemme know if it irritates you. :) I think that all these kids' articles could benefit from the giant red "DO NOT COPY" sign, and since I just learned how to do that, I'm going overboard a little. Thx. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:31, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: Good idea, message looks fine and minimally irritating - worth it if it heads off problems. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:13, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Haunting hour episode list
I noticed typo's and incorrect grammar like "Will Not Ever" instead of "Will Never". Can you fix it? My wiki account has been banned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.60.230 (talk) 22:51, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Frozen character articles
Setting Hebrew Wikidata links for them wouldn't've worked, since all the Hebrew versions are redirects to the article on the film. LaG roiL (talk) 12:05, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- @LaG roiL: That sounds like something that should be fixed on the hewiki and wikidata. If you created new articles on hewiki for the characters that needs to be reflected on wikidata then that will show up in all the other wikis for the character. If I hadn't removed the link a bot would have come around eventually to remove it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:21, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- I made them on hewiki as redirects in order to avoid getting into the whole "mentorship" thing again. laG roiL (talk) 13:36, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's a hewiki issue then. The proper way is to create character articles and populate wikidata with the links. If you put links back on the enwiki articles, I won't remove them again but other editors and the bot might so that is not a stable way of accomplishing what you want. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:47, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- I made them on hewiki as redirects in order to avoid getting into the whole "mentorship" thing again. laG roiL (talk) 13:36, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia and Twinkle
Have you been having problems with Twinkle or Wikipedia in general? For the last few days, I haven't been able to use it on articles because the rollback links are simply not appearing, which is why I've been using the undo feature. I've also been having other weird issues: the autocomplete in the search bar isn't working, so instead of it taking me directly to, say, your talk page, it takes me to the search results first and when I use rollback it takes me to the action completed page instead of the user's contributions.
Now here's the weird thing: everything's fine on my laptop, which made me think, "Okay, it must be a cache issue with Firefox on my desktop," so I cleared it last night before going to bed as I do that once a week, anyway. I also thought maybe it was because Firefox wasn't up-to-date, and it wasn't, but looking at the update history, the latest version (41.0.1) finally rolled around to my desktop.
All that points to it being something on my end on my desktop, so I'm not really sure what's going on. I realize this probably isn't the right venue, but figured you could probably help or offer a possible solution.
Regards. Amaury (talk) 15:15, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: I occasionally have problems with Twinkle showing up at all, then it seems to start working again for no apparent reason. I suspect that the Twinkle add-on code is on some other server than the main ones and sometimes won't load properly. I've just learned to live with the occasional outages. Annoying but somewhat tolerable as I can do most stuff I need to do without it when necessary. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:22, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, it's not working on my laptop now, either, and the other issues have also come about.And just as I'm typing this, it's working again there and here again. What's weird is that this has been going on for a few days ago for me, with it not working most of the time, but you say it's happened before, so hm. I wonder if the other issues I mentioned with Wikipedia in general are somehow related. Amaury (talk) 15:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)- And I take that back again. While things like the autocomplete are working on non-article pages, Twinkle isn't working for me at all on my desktop, even when it's clearly working again on my laptop. *sigh* I mean, it's not too big of a deal, like you said, but still, it certainly makes things easier, doesn't it? Amaury (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Of course just as I type that, Twinkle is currently working for me on my desktop! Argh! Technology! Sorry for all these notifications, Geraldo! Amaury (talk) 15:32, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- And I take that back again. While things like the autocomplete are working on non-article pages, Twinkle isn't working for me at all on my desktop, even when it's clearly working again on my laptop. *sigh* I mean, it's not too big of a deal, like you said, but still, it certainly makes things easier, doesn't it? Amaury (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- I suspect DNS issues and connection problems with the various servers that Wiki uses. I don't know if Twinkle uses the tool server or not but I have had significant problems reliably connecting to that as well. If you have a choice you might try some other ISP to connect or try a different DNS server. Sometimes I get better results on my cell data link than my home DSL one. Just part of the Wiki experience. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:35, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, DNS issues sounds like it could cause the quickly-changing intermittent issues that have been going on the last few days (for me, at least). IIRC, my laptop was fine at the college campus, so I'll see what it's like tomorrow when I'm there. It's the third week already starting tomorrow, and there are 10 weeks, which sounds like a lot, but they go by fast. Whoo! It's my second quarter there. First quarter was in the spring. :) Amaury (talk) 15:54, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Just wanted to note that it's working everywhere currently, except in article space, though talk pages are fine. For example, I can't use Twinkle on Henry Danger because the rollback links don't show up, but I can on Talk:Henry Danger. DNS issues still definitely seem likely, because this is kind of how Zap2it works and why we can't always see the episode guides. However, hopefully whatever the issue is clears up completely soon, eh? Amaury (talk) 19:40, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- It's working again! :) I usually only do it once a week, but I decided to give clearing all data a try again before going to bed last night. Since everything else was working and it was working for you on articles, I'm thinking maybe it just got stuck on a cached version from when it wasn't working. Amaury (talk) 13:55, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Just wanted to note that it's working everywhere currently, except in article space, though talk pages are fine. For example, I can't use Twinkle on Henry Danger because the rollback links don't show up, but I can on Talk:Henry Danger. DNS issues still definitely seem likely, because this is kind of how Zap2it works and why we can't always see the episode guides. However, hopefully whatever the issue is clears up completely soon, eh? Amaury (talk) 19:40, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, DNS issues sounds like it could cause the quickly-changing intermittent issues that have been going on the last few days (for me, at least). IIRC, my laptop was fine at the college campus, so I'll see what it's like tomorrow when I'm there. It's the third week already starting tomorrow, and there are 10 weeks, which sounds like a lot, but they go by fast. Whoo! It's my second quarter there. First quarter was in the spring. :) Amaury (talk) 15:54, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- I suspect DNS issues and connection problems with the various servers that Wiki uses. I don't know if Twinkle uses the tool server or not but I have had significant problems reliably connecting to that as well. If you have a choice you might try some other ISP to connect or try a different DNS server. Sometimes I get better results on my cell data link than my home DSL one. Just part of the Wiki experience. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:35, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Second Opinion
I don't think this and this are necessary, and I reverted (using AGF) the user a while ago for a similar thing, but I wanted to get a second opinion. If you don't feel they belong, either, feel free to go ahead and remove. Cheers! Amaury (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Doc McStuffins
I don't exactly understand how to split an article. Would you split the article into an episode list for me? Gatordragon (talk) 16:55, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Gatordragon: I've already started the process by tagging the article for split consideration and creating a discussion topic at Talk:Doc McStuffins#SPLIT of article. Please comment there that you support a split. If there is no objections to the split after a few days with the discussion topic up and you would like me to, I will do the work necessary to split it correctly. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:59, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
MOS:IDENTITY is being revisited: How should Wikipedia refer to transgender individuals before and after their transition?
You are being contacted because you contributed to a recent discussion of MOS:IDENTITY that closed with the recommendation that Wikipedia's policy on transgender individuals be revisited.
Two threads have been opened at the Village Pump:Policy. The first addresses how the Manual of Style should instruct editors to refer to transgender people in articles about themselves (which name, which pronoun, etc.). The second addresses how to instruct editors to refer to transgender people when they are mentioned in passing in other articles. Your participation is welcome. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:18, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Appreciation Barnstar!
The Special Barnstar | ||
For always being extremely helpful when I used to ask you questions more frequently when I started working with TV show articles. I'm sure I've probably annoyed you once or twice, but thank you for always being so kind and helpful. Amaury (talk) 00:51, 15 October 2015 (UTC) |
- Thanks for the barnstar. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:55, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Not too long ago I split the article and just wanted to let you know in case you didn't notice so you could add List of Kirby Buckets episodes to your watch list. Cheers! Amaury (talk) 00:21, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: I was watching. I had no problems with what was done. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:36, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- No, not for that, LOL! I meant because that's now another article where vandalism or unsourced additions, which seems to be very popular among TV show articles as we've seen, can occur, so just wanted to make sure this new article is on your watch list as well to watch for that stuff. Amaury (talk) 00:42, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Main article was on my watchlist previous to that and still is. I added the ep list article to my watchlist immediately I noticed it was created. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Perfect. :) Amaury (talk) 00:58, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Main article was on my watchlist previous to that and still is. I added the ep list article to my watchlist immediately I noticed it was created. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- No, not for that, LOL! I meant because that's now another article where vandalism or unsourced additions, which seems to be very popular among TV show articles as we've seen, can occur, so just wanted to make sure this new article is on your watch list as well to watch for that stuff. Amaury (talk) 00:42, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
CC
Hi GP, I'm growing a little impatient with the Newmarket, Ontario, Canada IP hopper who keeps flooding the talk pages of various kids articles with numerous questions about reliable sources, character names, etc. At Talk:Henry Hugglemonster there's a discussion about whether or not closed captioning is a reliable published source, with questions being raised about where the TV guides get their loglines, and a preference to use CC for character names. It's basically a continuation of the Doc McStuffins "can we trust the reliable sources, or did they get the info from Wikipedia" discussion. I've asked the IP to take the CC issue up with the community, but it seems to me that closed-captioning is not a reliable published source with an established reputation for fact-checking. I'm not soliciting your participation, so much as I'm asking you to please be aware of them. I don't have the best feeling, perhaps because I've happened upon numerous problematic users from Newmarket Ontario in the past.[3] Here's another example of a questionable question. You're more patient about this fancrufty stuff than I am. :) A good Friday to you, sir. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Need your opinion on something...
I moved this discussion from my talk page to WT:TV#Removal of episode section with only a series overview table Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:41, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Charlton Heston
@NapoleonX: I moved your question about my revert of your edit to Talk:Charlton Heston#Charlton Heston legal name and replied there. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
A cup of tea for you!
With this ever dramatic world including WikiDrama, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day y espero que todo esta bien contigo! This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 06:50, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
- Thanks. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:40, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Seriously, stop reverting valid edits. Gabrielle Elyse was credited as a cast member in every episode she appeared in. Doubt me? Skip to 4:36 in this video: [4]. 71.13.209.10 (talk) 13:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Seriously, provide info when requested. Easy to avoid this type of conflict if you'd just given the info in the first place so I had something to verify it against. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:40, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've provided the info to you multiple times: she was credited in every episode she appeared in. You just didn't want to verify what I said and just went by your memory instead and, even after I posted a link to the video, you still revert. If you do it one more time, I will report you. 71.13.209.10 (talk) 13:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I did no such thing. A generic watch every episode statement is not helpful. As soon as you provided useful info I added it back to the article and it is there now and also in the character section of the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't say every episode. I said every episode that she appeared in, which gives you fifteen options to verify what I said if you bothered to look up the episodes on IMDB. I shouldn't have to hold your hand. The fact that I had to say a specific episode before you would stop says you were not operating in good faith. 71.13.209.10 (talk) 13:53, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Based on your assertion, I did check IMDb and I did check "Family Matters" as it was the last episode listed there. All you would have had to say on your first revert of my edits was give some useful verifiable info instead of "
Per infobox guidelines, all credited cast throughout the run of a show are to be listed
" as I did sample the credits before I took out the name in the first place. Try to be collaborative in this project, understand that stuff has to be verifiable. I try to verify credits as there is a lot of vandalism of people adding bogus stuff. Try to be helpful and not unnecessarily abrasive when asked for info. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Based on your assertion, I did check IMDb and I did check "Family Matters" as it was the last episode listed there. All you would have had to say on your first revert of my edits was give some useful verifiable info instead of "
- I didn't say every episode. I said every episode that she appeared in, which gives you fifteen options to verify what I said if you bothered to look up the episodes on IMDB. I shouldn't have to hold your hand. The fact that I had to say a specific episode before you would stop says you were not operating in good faith. 71.13.209.10 (talk) 13:53, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I did no such thing. A generic watch every episode statement is not helpful. As soon as you provided useful info I added it back to the article and it is there now and also in the character section of the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've provided the info to you multiple times: she was credited in every episode she appeared in. You just didn't want to verify what I said and just went by your memory instead and, even after I posted a link to the video, you still revert. If you do it one more time, I will report you. 71.13.209.10 (talk) 13:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
The archived link
Hey! Thanks for reaching out. My two concerns still are 1. as a collapsed box it takes up barely anymore room than the archive link & 2. the way it stands now it seems less likely that a user new to the page will see the results of the discussion (almost what happened to me lol). Thoughts? Thanks for taking the time! DaltonCastle (talk) 19:20, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- @DaltonCastle: Stuff gets archived all the time on talk pages, particularly discussions that take up 96% of the page. Archiving talk page discussions is pretty standard and not normally controversial. At least this way the header and a targeted link remain, normally it would just show up as archive1 in the page headers. It is no more time to click the link to go to the archive than click the show link on the collapsed sections. Some people have slow speeds on downloads and even a collapsed section gets downloaded when loading a page. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I see. Thank you for the timely response! DaltonCastle (talk) 19:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- There is also the matter that it's a stupid, manufactured controversy that doesn't need any more free promotion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:35, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yep, that too. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:37, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- There is also the matter that it's a stupid, manufactured controversy that doesn't need any more free promotion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:35, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I see. Thank you for the timely response! DaltonCastle (talk) 19:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Need some help. I don't want to revert any more even though I'm pretty sure I'm fine, but yesterday I reverted Alex because The Curse of the Screaming Skull, while scheduled to air yesterday, had not yet aired and therefore it was impossible for the summary to be their own words. Now it has aired and a non-copyrighted summary is possible, and I'm pretty sure the IP who added it used their own words. Now Alex is on the other end because they're upset I reverted them and have removed not only this week's episode summary, but last week's as well—them being upset is further proven by the fact that they vandalized my talk page yesterday several times if you look at the history and even refactored a comment of mine on their talk page to make it look like I told them to mess up my talk page. Amaury (talk) 23:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
Thanks for the helpful comment on my talk page! I am pretty new to editing wikipedia, and hopefully will get better at it. Regarding the edit, I still think the movie's article should not be saying "based on the 2009 novel of same name by Jane Austen and Seth Grahame-Smith." since it misleads one into believing Jane Austen actually wrote the book (of the same name). The book does list her as a co-author but it appears unduly done, and I think the description (of Jane Austen's contribution), as with the wikipedia article on the book, should be made explicit here (in the article on the movie) too, not as author of the same-name-book but of the "original"/source material. Visheshk (talk) 21:53, 29 October 2015 (UTC)Visheshk
- @Visheshk: But she did write a major part of the book as significant text in Pride and Prejudice and Zombies was copied verbatim from Pride and Prejudice with Grahame-Smith adding additional material that supplemented the source. Since Austin is credited as a co-writer officially, and they legally had to give her credit, we must reflect that in the related articles. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:00, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Help request on Max & Shred
So I'm trying to update the code to use the newer episode table template, but because this show also has alternate air dates and RowColor = N, I'm having no luck via previewing. Amaury (talk) 00:40, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: Sorry, I can't figure it out either. Maybe best to drop a message to the template designer. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:03, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
I've reported them and hopefully action is taken soon, but if you could, please keep an eye on List of Mighty Med episodes. As you probably noticed, I followed your lead and moved the production timeline of shows into their own sections on all the shows I had listed in my sandbox. As such, I've removed the production timeline from episode/character lists to make the leads consistent. Well, now those improvements are being reverted by an IP in the article mentioned above, and it's a disruptive IP we've both dealt with before.
Thank you in advance, my friend. Amaury (talk) 14:48, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: It's on my watchlist. He isn't undoing the lead changes, he just doesn't like the episode table template and prefers the old hard-coded table format for some reason. Of course when people refuse to communicate it is hard to find out reasons and work issues. The template for the episode list tables is a good thing and the only possible reason not to use it is if the template can't do something that is needed for that particular table. Still, editors need to articulate that if it is the reason and not just revert without any explanation. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, man. I have revised my report.
- Yeah, if I'm remembering correctly now, I think they're the one who was reverting the episode list improvement to List of Kirby Buckets episode a while ago. Amaury (talk) 15:35, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Invitation to discussion
Since we're aiming at consistency throughout the project, I've started a discussion about episode count templates at WT:TV. Your comments would be appreciated. The discussion is here --AussieLegend (✉) 18:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Removed bogus warning messages
For my records, I removed two retaliatory messages from IP vandal 143.215.170.127 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Gerarldo
Sorry, My bad. It's Ok Hamilton Slim (talk) 20:50, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
R5(band) page
Hi Geraldo, I work for the record label and own the copyright on the images I've been trying to replace. The sources associated with genre information were removed because they were irrelevant to the genre. Please advise on how I can avoid my changes being made in the future. Miller kelsey95 (talk) 19:12, 13 November 2015 (UTC) Kelsey User:miller kelsey95
- @Miller kelsey95: See Commons:OTRS and provide the required proof in the form they require that the copyright owner of the image will release that image with absolutely no restrictions on use. Otherwise your assertion of ownership is insufficient. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Kids
What if the word "Kids" was used just once in an article description? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.60.230 (talk) 20:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Unless inside a direct quote it is a slang term (Kid) so per WP:TONE not appropriate for an encylopedia. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:57, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Doesn't look like this is on your watch list as I don't see any edits from you. The second season is premiering on December 5, and I've already had a few issues with IPs. If you could add this to your watch list, that would be appreciated. The current edits seem to be okay as they're just editing the summaries, but yeah. Amaury (talk) 22:51, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Why the true informations that I posted are being deleted?
I've provided some true informations about some articles but they keep being deleted. I don't add something untrue or wrong, despite that, my posts are deleted. All Disney Channel shows and original movies are labelled under Disney–ABC Domestic Television. At last, in order to prove that I even added one of your site's pages to reinforce my sources but you still deleted them. What do I have to do to stop them from being deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.244.137.180 (talk) 18:33, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
- As I noted on your talk page, other wiki articles are not usable as reliable sources. You are just making assumptions for all shows that may or may not be true, but are still unreferenced. Also some show were distributed under old names and should be listed as such. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Geraldo, I dunno if you have any interest in this, but I've WP:AfD'ed Ricky Garcia (actor) at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ricky Garcia (actor), as I feel it pretty clearly fails WP:NACTOR. (In other words, if Peyton Meyer fails at AfC for inclusion, then Ricky Garcia definitely doesn't belong in mainspace either...) Just so you know... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:32, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
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How To Rock episodes
- I'm making sure I put reliable sources in my editing and if there is a flaw, I promise I will take care of it. Thank u for you're feedback.Meddymarl (talk) 01:58, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Loud House vandalisms
What are we going to do about that guy who keeps vandalizing The Loud House page with things like "Lincoln is a homosexuality", etc.?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartoonkid95 (talk • contribs) 07:04, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Kartoonkid95: Looks like it got taken care of with a page protect. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
List of A.N.T. Farm episodes Refernces
I see that you undid my edit on List of A.N.T. Farm episodes saying "It is necessary to have the full cite in a transcludable section as article that transclude this won't know the definition of the named cite. " However, the other page, A.N.T. Farm, does know the definition. Elisfkc (talk) 23:12, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Elisfkc: We can't always assume that will continue to be the case as the definition in the transcluding article may get removed in a future edit and the resulting cite error will be hard to find and fix. Also don't know if that will always be the only article that trancludes the section. Best as a general principle to keep trancludable sections self-contained and not dependent on things defined elsewhere. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Assistance request
Hello, my friend. I am having problems with an IP who's failing to communicate on Make It Pop. They are repeatedly violating two sets of guidelines: addition of unsourced content and continuously adding 2016 to the Season 2 section even though an episode has yet to air next year. If you (and MPFitz1968) could keep a closer eye on this as well, that would be great! Amaury (talk) 00:43, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Re: The Thundermans
Thank you. I couldn't view the one on Nick because it was a locked episode and required a code from our provider or something, and I tried looking on an episode Nick just showed, but because they got rid of the normal credits a long time ago, I wasn't able to tell. Amaury (talk) 01:13, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: I ended up buying that ep to check cast credits for an edit that looked dubious but I wasn't sure. iTunes is convenient and only costs a few bucks to get an ep. Sometimes I even enjoy watching the whole episode and not just for the credits so not a total waste of money. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:23, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- Indeed, haha! It's a good show. Then again, I personally like any sitcom produced by Nick, Disney Channel, and Disney XD. I don't know if you're a regular watcher, but I'm always setting my DVR to make sure I don't miss any new episodes, even if I'm home, where I can easily get distracted with a game or something. Hope you found that episode of The Thundermans funny. :) Amaury (talk) 01:34, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything#Non-notable guests
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything#Non-notable guests. Thanks. Amaury (talk) 01:11, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Revoking talk page access
Just FYI, such requests should probably be made at WP:AIV and not WP:RFPP, as we're not actually protecting the page. Rather, we're re-blocking with the "disable talk page access" option. Cheers — MusikAnimal talk 16:56, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: If I make it at AIV, and I have done this in the past for this type of situation, the bot will immediately remove the request as it sees the user is currently blocked. I chose RPP as twinkle had a template that seemed to better match the situation and it is kind of protecting the page from one particular user even if the means is changing the block settings. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:02, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Ah yes, didn't think about that. I was going to say we have the same problem at RFPP, where the bot will complain that I didn't actually semi the page as requested. But come to find out, silly ole me didn't check the available template options, which includes
{{RFPP|tb}}
, for this exact scenario. So... nevermind me, RFPP is indeed the correct venue :) — MusikAnimal talk 17:11, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Ah yes, didn't think about that. I was going to say we have the same problem at RFPP, where the bot will complain that I didn't actually semi the page as requested. But come to find out, silly ole me didn't check the available template options, which includes
Talk:Descendants: Wicked World#Character list
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Descendants: Wicked World#Character list. Thanks. nyuszika7h (talk) 22:15, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
181.137.91.55
Hi GP, I noticed this IP changing an image at Johnny Bravo. I thought, "well that image doesn't look so great. Lemme find out more about it." I clicked here and noticed that the file was uploaded by Duque Santiago, who was a sock of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/REPARADOR/Archive, a real pain circa 2012. Interestingly, the IP who added the image to the article geolocates to Medellin, Colombia. I'm wondering if Gabucho is just a continuation of REPARADOR. Just a thought to sour your egg nog. :) Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:32, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I think it is a different person. Seems like a different personality to me in edits made. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:55, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
- Alrighty then. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Make It Pop
I've split the episodes to List of Make It Pop episodes. If you haven't already, be sure to watch that as well now. Many thanks. :) 15:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Season's Greetings
Hello Geraldo Perez: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Philip J Fry / talk 22:11, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message
- Thank you. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:18, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you!
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Amaury (talk) 15:27, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you and Merry Christmas. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:15, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I'm sorry to bother you but recently I've been involved with a discussion regarding some minor edits I made 3 months ago and that recently have been reverted. As the discussion goes, I feel like the other users (who have more Wikipedia experience than me) are using arguments like "not everything is rule-based, but standard practice" to claim that, regardless of violating rules like WP:STATUSQUO and WP:DONTREVERT, their way is the correct one and, honestly, I don't know what to do. Maybe I'm wrong and fail to see that, but from my point of view, my edits have nothing but to improve the article and don't violate any Wikipedia rule (or standards, for that matter). And one of those editor, sometimes, seem to not respect others' opinions regarding how the article should be displayed. Anyway, I was hoping you could help me. Here's the link to the discussion. Thank you so much in advance and have a Happy New Year! — Artmanha (talk) 13:45, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Artmanha: I looked over the edits and the discussion on the talk page. Understand that WP:STATUSQUO and WP:DONTREVERT are not policy statements which we must all adhere or even guidelines we basically must follow without a real good reason to break them, but part of an essay to polite editing behavior. Look at the notice at the top of the page. These particular essays have wide support but are not really controlling except if all the editors involved agree to follow them which unfortunately in this dispute some have chosen not to. Not much more you can do in this case particularly if multiple editors disagree with you and you are not sufficiently persuasive. On the other hand WP:Edit warring is policy so be careful on how you handle this. I personally think you should just accept the changes as it as it is not really substantive content that is being discussed but formatting and presentation. See also WP:STICK, WP:DROPIT for other somewhat related essays. Lots of good stuff in essays, but take them for what they are, they are just advise. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:45, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the attention. I understand your point, but I feel discouraged to editing on Wikipedia since every once in awhile I edit and, even though it improves the article, some editors don't want it there and I end up having to drop out of the discussion and let it their way. What I meant is their point of why it shouldn't be there is invalid, and none of them gave me a reason for it to be removed other than threats and "three users vs one", they were basicly stating I was wrong because they were right. I mean no harm to Wikipedia. Plus, I was even threatened to be blocked for edit warring when the user threatening me was the one edit warring, according the Wikipedia policies. So I really don't know what to do next. — Artmanha (talk) 16:33, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Artmanha: I'm sorry that is your experience but it happens to all of us. I have had this happen to me lots of times and I know it is really discouraging, and for me, really upsetting. This is going to happen on a collaborative project where everyone has different ideas of what is or isn't an improvement and have strong feelings. I know this is trite but you can't take editing wiki that seriously, we all edit here mostly for personal enjoyment or fulfillment and if that stops, it is not worth the stress. My recommendation here is drop that page from you watchlist and move on to something else with a different set of editors. Make improvements as you judge valuable and know that your efforts are appreciated. I have gotten burned out on this project about 3 times now and dropped it completely a few times but still mostly enjoy it so came back. I have found this article, m:wikistress, helpful, you may too. I'd hate to lose you as an editor. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:55, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for your support. I won't stop improving that article whenever I can. Once the series is officially renewed for a second season (and it will, as the showrunners stated themselves) I'll add the set widths again, so there will be no excuses for them to remove it. I appreciate your concern although I don't let Wiki editing interfere on my private or professional life. I did read that article you recommended and found it really amusing and weirdly accurate. Thank you, once again, for the support and have a Happy New Year! — Artmanha (talk) 17:14, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Happy New Year! Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for your support. I won't stop improving that article whenever I can. Once the series is officially renewed for a second season (and it will, as the showrunners stated themselves) I'll add the set widths again, so there will be no excuses for them to remove it. I appreciate your concern although I don't let Wiki editing interfere on my private or professional life. I did read that article you recommended and found it really amusing and weirdly accurate. Thank you, once again, for the support and have a Happy New Year! — Artmanha (talk) 17:14, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Artmanha: I'm sorry that is your experience but it happens to all of us. I have had this happen to me lots of times and I know it is really discouraging, and for me, really upsetting. This is going to happen on a collaborative project where everyone has different ideas of what is or isn't an improvement and have strong feelings. I know this is trite but you can't take editing wiki that seriously, we all edit here mostly for personal enjoyment or fulfillment and if that stops, it is not worth the stress. My recommendation here is drop that page from you watchlist and move on to something else with a different set of editors. Make improvements as you judge valuable and know that your efforts are appreciated. I have gotten burned out on this project about 3 times now and dropped it completely a few times but still mostly enjoy it so came back. I have found this article, m:wikistress, helpful, you may too. I'd hate to lose you as an editor. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:55, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the attention. I understand your point, but I feel discouraged to editing on Wikipedia since every once in awhile I edit and, even though it improves the article, some editors don't want it there and I end up having to drop out of the discussion and let it their way. What I meant is their point of why it shouldn't be there is invalid, and none of them gave me a reason for it to be removed other than threats and "three users vs one", they were basicly stating I was wrong because they were right. I mean no harm to Wikipedia. Plus, I was even threatened to be blocked for edit warring when the user threatening me was the one edit warring, according the Wikipedia policies. So I really don't know what to do next. — Artmanha (talk) 16:33, 31 December 2015 (UTC)