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Hello, GeoGammaMorphologe, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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The article Ancient TL has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG.

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Randykitty (talk) 17:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Randykitty, I understand the concerns here, but the claim that Ancient TL is a non-notable journal is not based on merits. True is that the journal is not indexed (it does not have an impact factor, and the articles no DOI; yet), but it has an ISSN number, and it has been registered since the 1970s with editors being important figures of the luminescence and ESR dating community. The fact that the journal has no impact factor is related to the procedure by which journals get indexed and receive an impact factor in the first place, and how the journal is set up as free community platform. However, because a journal does not have an impact factor calculated, it does not mean that it has no impact in the respective scientific field. Ancient TL is the open access of the trapped-charge dating community and contains important technical contributions cited many times; nearly every single article containing luminescence/ESR ages citing articles from Ancient TL. So, instead of looking up an impact factor calculated and published by business entities, it is essential to look up the actual scientific impact in terms of citations. For instance, according to Google Scholar, the article by Guérin et al. 2011, Dose-rate conversion factors: update, was cited so far at least 1276 times; another article by Adamiec and Aitken, 1998, Dose-rate conversion factors: update: 1701 times, the article Kreutzer et al., 2012: Introducing an R package for luminescence dating analysis: 345 times and counting. More examples can be found when you look up single articles, and when you look up those citations, you will see that they are cited most of the time in listed journals, partly with a very high impact factor. So, at least the authors and the reviewers of those subsequent articles that use the source believe that what is written has merit. Therefore, my plea is to keep the journal listed in Wikipedia. GeoGammaMorphologe (talk) 20:57, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Ancient TL for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ancient TL until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Randykitty (talk) 17:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]