User talk:Geldartp

Reference placement

References are placed after the content being verified (and after punctuation). The software adds the ref to the list. References following the added ref are automatically renumbered. David notMD (talk) 01:01, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

March 2024

Hello Geldartp. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Geldartp. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Geldartp|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 00:37, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I am most committed to Wikipedia policy. I have done a couple of personal edits but also, yes, I am in publishing and often it is the author who has recommended to me that a reference be put on a certain W. page. Certainly it gives a bit of extra information about the subject and then refers to the author's book, sometimes to a specific page.

There should be nothing wrong with an academic reference to a particular book, or putting a book in "further reading".

You say I should put in, for example, . Where exactly do I put this?

I'm not quite comfortable with saying "have been paid" because it is only that in the future someone might buy the book as a result and only then would the author and myself share a royalty.

If the author themselves puts in the edit how do they, if they should, disclose a self-promoting interest?

With regards,

Peter Geldart

Ottawa Canada

613-294-2205 Geldartp (talk) 12:44, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

You place the notice on your user page. Anyone who derives financial benefit (real or theoretical) from their edits is considered to be a paid editor on Wikipedia. Neither the publisher or the author themselves should be adding references to their books directly to articles. Instead, they make make suggestions on article talk pages. Instructions can be found in the links in the message above. MrOllie (talk) 14:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

OK. I agree. I will put that on my user page. And put my/the author's edit suggestions on the relevant talk pages.

Will you delete my edits that are already there that you deem commercial or is that up to me to do?

One, as I said, on the W. page "James Strutt" 18 October 2023 was a personal contribution (a spelling note). Geldartp (talk) 15:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)