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The Minor Barnstar
Awarded for you excellent contribution to the Whalom Park page.

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Pine Hills and Plymouth

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Thanks for all your work on Plymouth-related topics. You have certainly created a lot of Plymouth-related articles, and that is great. Just wanted to let you know that I moved your Manomet Hill and Cleft Rock articles to sub-sections in the Pine Hills articles, with the previous articles serving as redirects. I saw that the Cleft Rock article was already subject to deletion, with Manomet Hill not being far behind, due to classification as "non-notable". However, as the information adds to the Plymouth topic, I moved it. Hope you don't mind. :)

Also, what do you think about the Plymouth article going up as an FAC? I've submitted it at Peer review, and it still needs some work, but I think it's almost ready. Any comments about this would be great. Thanks, Raime 00:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plymouth High Schools

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Het Ed - I recently created artciles for Plymouth North High School and Plymouth South High School to remove redlinks in the Plymouth article and bring it closer to featured status. However, the Plymouth South high school article has alreday been nominated for deletion. I did not attend high school in Plymouth, and know very little about either school. But you seem to be knowledgeable about all thngs Plymouth, so if possible could you please add to both articles when you have a chance? It would be a shame to see them deleted as "non-notable", but I'm having trouble adding information. I'm guessing you probably do, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Raime 02:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I've merged the articles into Plymouth Public Schools. However, this still needs a lot of work. Thanks, Raime 04:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plymouth High Schools Update

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Separate articles are possible for both high schools. As long as both articles have relevant history sections, they should be "notable" enough. The South Plymouth High debate has sort-of been put on hold, and I'll revert the North Plymouth High redirect to the original article I wrote. It still needs a lot of work to become "notable", so any info you can add to that would be great. Most Massachusetts school districts do not have articles for elementary and middle schools, but many have high school articles. Plymouth, particularly with two, should not be an exception. Raime 02:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've reinstated the Plymouth North High School with history and awards headings. Since you are an alumnus of the school, please do anything you can to add to and fix the article. Thanks, Raime 02:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Out of the two, Plymouth South definitely needs the most work. Actually, I think Plymouth North is safe from deletion. Plymouth South is on hold from deletion right now, but it needs more info to make it "notable". Anything you can find would be great. I've resquested a few days at AfD to work on the article, but am still having trouble finding information about the school. Since you seem to be omniscient about all things Plymouth, hopefully you'll know something about this school. :) Raime 03:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Fearings Pond

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Hi

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Hey, there, want to be friends? LANGOLASSI (talk) 21:27 9 March (UTC)

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Camp Avoda

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USRD Newsletter, Issue 4

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Tim Russert

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Sorry for reverting your edit; someone appears to have put gay porn on the template at the top of the page, and I guessed (since your edit was hidden by the picture) that you'd done it. Nyttend (talk) 23:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know; since it wasn't in the page history, it was obviously in one of the templates that's displayed on the page. Who knows what template it is; any major page has tons of templates, so it would take a bit of investigation to find out which one it is. Nyttend (talk) 23:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Cod Image

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Are you talking about this image? Image:Cape_Cod_Landsat_7.jpg Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to check out your monitor's brightness or something because it it really clear and I haven't had any other complaints about it being dark. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MA-CT route merging

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I am planning to merge several same-numbered MA and CT route articles together. Since you created several of the articles proposed for merging, your input would be greatly appreciated. I have posted my proposal at WT:USRD#MA/CT merges. Thanks. --Polaron | Talk 23:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

USRD Newsletter, Issue 5

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Apologies for the late delivery; here is the June edition of the newsletter.

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USRD Newsletter, Issue 6 (FINAL ISSUE)

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Important

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Please see Talk:Deaths in 2008#Bare references. Regards, WWGB (talk) 21:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A contest you may be interested in

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Hello, Raj Fra. There is a new contest for U.S. and Canada roads that you may be interested in. To sign up or for more information, please visit User:Rschen7754/USRDCRWPCup. The contest begins Saturday at 00:00 UTC. Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 01:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May I ask that you quickly make it one state that you represent? :) - Would be better that way.Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 11:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Scheener

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You will need to add the Charles H. Schneer cause of death from the 21st in the Deaths in 2009. I have to revert an IP user who had deleted several names from the 20th Chris (talk) 16:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All I wanted to was revert the vandalism. As far as adding the cause of death, be my guest. Chris (talk) 14:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

USRD-CRWP WikiCup Status

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This is just to let you know that you have been eliminated from the USRD-CRWP WikiCup. However, Scott5114 is planning another contest to open within the next few weeks. Also, there is always next year :) Good luck. --Rschen7754 (T C) 08:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dementia

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Hi Ed, I was surprised at that website that showed death often follows dementia. I had always thought it to be a mental illness, but it clearly runs much deeper than that. Best wishes, WWGB (talk) 13:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed new policy

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As a recent contributor to Deaths in 2009, you may be able to help decide on a proposed new policy. It is proposed that:

A month should be deleted from the "Deaths in [CURRENT YEAR]" page ONE WEEK after the month ends.

Please opine at Talk:Deaths_in_2009#Proposed new policy. Don't just say

  • Support.

or

  • Oppose.

Also state your reasons and participate in the discussion. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose I think that two days after the new month has begun is adequate before collapsing the previous month. IMO there would be too much clutter on the screen for the previous month and seven days into the new month of recent deaths. If one needs to either add a name or make an edit in the previous month, then click on the blue [edit] on the previous month. I don't think that this should be such a big deal. Ed (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So would you support having a delay instead of changing it the minute the month ends (as has heretofore been done)? (If so, could you clarify that on the discussion page? Thanks.) Michael Hardy (talk) 19:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ed, Just noticed your post at my talk page. I think the editor who reverted you is just being pedantic. Of course, people don't generally die at the time of a fall (unless it is off a cliff). What generally happens with the elderly is that they break a hip or damage a vital organ, and they never recover. So of course they would not have died then if the fall did not happen. So, yes, they died from (complications of) the fall. That said, I wouldn't waste my time getting into an edit war. Maybe just let that one go? Regards, WWGB (talk) 14:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Sylvia Pressler

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Updated DYK query On March 3, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sylvia Pressler, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Calmer Waters 06:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Join the WP:USRDCUP 2010!

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We're going to go ahead and try this again! The contest will begin April 1. It is a contest to encourage editors to improve teh quality of WP:USRD articles and participate in USRD. Precautions will be taken to make sure that people do not "game the system" and bring article quality down. Please sign up ASAP! Announcements regarding the contest will be made at WP:USRDCUP, Twitter, and/or IRC. --Rschen7754 06:51, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I can't participate. I have recently moved from Plymouth MA to Lumberton TX. I'm not ready to begin writing about TX highways in depth, especially the Farm-to-Market and Ranch-to-Market Roads, at this time. Perhaps the editor in charge of TX highways can get in touch with me so I can get started down here. Just don't do it right away; I'm still getting settled in. Thank you. Ed (talk) 16:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Categories at Cesar Millan

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OK, I think what you're saying is that those categories belong on Daddy's page (and I see that they are indeed there), not Millan's page. Is that correct? If so, I get your point and agree. (By the way, your talk page is getting really large - have you considered using an archive bot on it? Just a suggestion.) Mark Shaw (talk) 16:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is correct. Thank you. Ed (talk) 16:42, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 2010 USRD newsletter

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Naming

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Thank you for uncovering who various towns were named after and placing that information in articles. One small point - WP:USCITY, which towns follow, has that information under "history" rather than in the lead. Could you place it there, instead? Thanks. Student7 (talk) 12:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frederik van Zyl Slabbert

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Hi Ed, I'm just curious why you alphabetized Frederik van Zyl Slabbert under "V"? Is his family name not Slabbert? Regards, WWGB (talk) 01:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Notability - Orphan

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Origins of North Dakota name

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Thanks for starting adding origins for ND place names. However, epodunk isn't the most deniable source. I have two more reliable sources by Barnes and Wick. I may be following up on your edits for verification, as I've been adding his information as well as I make other edits to place articles. You may want to slow down on adding these en masse in case any have to be reverted. just wanted you to know in case you see me coming behind you making changes. DCmacnut<> 02:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think you are wasting your time. I think that many place articles are little more tha stubs that rehash dry, statistical information. There are many editors that think smaller place names arne't notable enough for inclusion, and we need to do more to expand these articles. I think what you are doing is fantastic. But in my experience, origins of place names can be subject to interpretation, so the closer you get to an original source, the better. Epodunk is OK, but I'm thinking another source to back it up would be good. For example, they have more on not just who it is named after, but why and when.
As far as Wick and Barnes, they are books, and aren't online, unfortunately. I have copies from my local library. Barnes is public domain now, so I can post a PDF of it to send if you'd like. Wick is still under copyright, and is a more complete and corrected version of Barnes. Perhaps we can team up. I have many of the pages you edited on my watch list, and I can go through and expand the historical sections with the sources at my disposal, at least for North and South Dakotal. I planned on that anyway, but didn't want you to think I was questioning your edits or trying to undo the work you are putting in. The book cites are below, with links to find them in libraries. Also, check out some of my work at Petrel, North Dakota and Stark County, North Dakota.DCmacnut<> 03:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wick, Douglas A. (1988). North Dakota Place Names. Bismarck, North Dakota: Hedemarken Collectibles. ISBN 0-9620968-0-6. OCLC 191277027. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Williams, Mary Ann (Barnes) (1966). Origins of North Dakota Place Names. Bismarck, North Dakota: Bismarck Tribune, 1966. OCLC 431626.

Thanks

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Thanks for fixing my typo Ed. That's what happens when you type and eat lunch at the same time! Best wishes, WWGB (talk) 03:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Summer 2010 USRD newsletter

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Apparently...

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... you disagree with OED on what the nowadays commonest meaning of the word apparent is:

Appearing to the senses or mind, as distinct from (though not necessarily opposed to) what really is; seeming. Contrasted with real.

Of course, this is just an impression I got, from Talk:Deaths in 2010#Apparent suicide; the apparent disagreement between you and the experts in Oxford may in reality be me having misunderstood your point. JoergenB (talk) 13:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC) .[reply]

Thanks for the explanation; however, I think that I still miss your point. As far as I understand, An apparent heart attack (e.g. in an orbituary) should mean more or less the same as "A ('real') cause (of a 'real' death), which (judging by the commonest explanation of the 'real' symptoms) seemingly was a heart attac (but 'in reality' possibly could be something different)". As far as I understood the answer you got, the other editor also was referring to apparent "as distinct from, though not necessarily opposed to what really is", to quote the OED.
Do you mean that you would prefer only the adverbial usage:
The cause apparently was a heart attack, in lieu of The cause was an apparent heart attack?
In my limited English understanding, I absolutely prefer the first sentence, if I am presented with only these two alternatives. IMHO, the second alternative does contain a contradiction; however, not as much between "apparent" and "Heart attack" as between "cause" and "apparent heart attack".
Compare with the quotation from Gibbon provided by OED:
"His real merit, and apparent fidelity, had gained the confidence both of the prince and people."
There was 'really' something, perhaps a pattern of actions or attitudes, that conveyed an 'impression' of him possessing fidelity. However, that something was not necessarily fidelity 'in reality'. Similarly, in the orbituary: There was something, which appeared to be a heart attack and which very tangible caused the death.
I do not find "apparent heart attack" in itself to be a contradiction of terms, any more than "apparent fidelity". The contradiction instead is in the context: An apparent fidelity ('real' or not) may cause people to put confidence in someone; an apparent heart attack ('real' or not) may cause people to rush to a person's aid and to call an ambulance; since we tend to react on what we perceive. However, the cause of death either was a real heart attack, or it wasn't. If this is your criticism, I even partially agree; but, on the other hand, I accept ellipses.
However, I still may have missed your point; in which case I'd appreciate a rephrasing. JoergenB (talk) 18:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So, would a (minimalistic) change from ...an apparent heart attack... to ...apparently a heart attack... (or similarly, depending on the environment) satisfy you? JoergenB (talk) 16:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC) (corrected 21:27, 27 October 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Well, then I'll drop this, since that hardly could satisfy the others. As far as I understood the old discussion, they explained rather clearly that the reason for adding "apparent" in some instances was that there the reason for death was not (officially) determined (yet). In other words, they made a clear semantic difference between heart attack and apparent heart attack, in the sense that they would use the one or the other formulation in different instances, in order to convey different meanings. Hence, they could hardly be satisfied by using exactly the same wording in both cases.
Anyhow, thanks for taking your time to explain your points of view! JoergenB (talk) 21:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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