User talk:EPennington

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Hi, I work with the organisation who's page I am editing at the request of the founder Bryan McCormack. I have never edited a Wikipedia Page before and so I do not really know what to do to ensure successful references for the text my boss had provided in order to update our page? Thank you EPennington (talk) 12:57, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, please read WP:Conflict of interest. The edits you are making have a strongly promotional tone, even if that wasn't your intention. As an editor with a clear conflict of interest, you must follow the process laid out there, by requesting edits at the talk page. Thank you. Storchy (talk) 15:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - I am now in the process of also adding citations and references to the article EPennington (talk) 15:41, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. References are not the problem, it's the promotional tone of what you're adding. Have you read WP:Conflict of interest yet? Please do so now. Storchy (talk) 16:14, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have yes and I do understand it. However, this is the text our founder provided for me to update our page with. I shall attempt to alter with a netural tone. EPennington (talk) 16:17, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What is your connection with the group please? You haven't disclosed this yet, as requested above. Storchy (talk) 16:21, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am Yesterday Today Tomorrow (YTT)'s Gender Programming Specialist https://www.yttassociation.org/who-are-we EPennington (talk) 16:23, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Please read WP:Paid-contribution disclosure, particularly the part that reads "those with a conflict of interest, including paid editors, are very strongly discouraged from directly editing affected articles, but should post content proposals on the talk pages of existing articles". Storchy (talk) 16:27, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

we aren't paying anyone to edit.... my 3 hours of edits have again been reverted. Not thrilled. I am following guidelines. EPennington (talk) 16:29, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you are an unpaid member of the organisation, the third paragraph at the top of WP:Conflict of interest reads: "COI editors are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly, and can propose changes on article talk pages instead." This policy is designed to keep Wikipedia articles as neutral and unbiased as possible. Thank you. Storchy (talk) 16:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How can I propose changes? i only see minor edits or major edits as an option? EPennington (talk) 16:42, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

you are now aware i work for the organisation EPennington (talk) 16:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

what do I need to do in order to have a draft version of the page for it to be proof-read? EPennington (talk) 16:44, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since the article was already published before you started editing it, you could simply propose the changes you want to be made at Talk:Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow. For more information on how to do this, please see the summary at WP:Suggestions for COI compliance. More detailed information, please see WP:Edit requests. Thanks, Storchy (talk) 16:52, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have placed a (edit request) to the page EPennington (talk) 17:04, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, you have not made any edits to Talk:Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow. Please follow the blue links in Storchy's post, read the information, and follow the instructions for creating an edit request on the article talk page (not in your sandbox or on any other page). --bonadea contributions talk 17:48, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

September 2022

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a message letting you know that one or more of your recent edits to Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow have been undone by an automated computer program called ClueBot NG.

ClueBot NG makes very few mistakes, but it does happen. If you believe the change you made was constructive, please read about it, report it here, remove this message from your talk page, and then make the edit again.
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The following is the log entry regarding this message: Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow was changed by EPennington (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.857273 on 2022-09-07T17:10:52+00:00

Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 17:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A request to edit the page, or to get discussion about a proposed edit, needs to go on the article's talk page. In this case, that's Talk:Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow. —C.Fred (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have submitted a sandbox draft request EPennington (talk) 17:21, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (September 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:EPennington/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, EPennington! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am leaving the page as it was orginally found. Thank you 2A02:C7E:B18:1C00:2D28:63AC:5F58:2EFA (talk) 17:51, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Yesterday Today Tomorrow

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Yesterday Today Tomorrow requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.yttassociation.org/ytt-approach. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Text has been taken from our website (I am the organisations Gender Programming Advisor) because the wikipedia needs updating with the content. I have even reference our webpage where the text is from???? EPennington (talk) 17:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

EPennington, I understand that it is a bit stressful to get all these messages, but please take the time to read the information in the notices you get. Your question is addressed in the message you are responding to. The blue links in the message will take you to pages with more information. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 17:50, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have read... it's fine. I wish to leave the page as it was before editing was made. Thank you. I will tell our founder and no further action will be taken 2A02:C7E:B18:1C00:2D28:63AC:5F58:2EFA (talk) 17:52, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paid editing

As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:EPennington, and the template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=EPennington|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 17:42, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I shall stop from editing and tell our founder the edits cannot be made. EPennington (talk) 17:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid deleation of the page, I shall stop all editing from this point forward. Thank you EPennington (talk) 17:47, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Yesterday Today Tomorrow has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Yesterday Today Tomorrow. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 17:48, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]