User talk:DreamRimmer

NPP School

Hey DreamRimmer. I would like to receive training for New Pages Patrol. I have read through the notability and deletion criteria till now and it sounds quite interesting to me. Could you please accept me as a student? I am in the UTC+4 timezone. Thank you! TNM101 (chat) 15:20, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

@TNM101: Thanks for reaching out! I currently have two students, but I should have enough time to take on your training as well. I'll set up your training page tomorrow and let you know once it's ready. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:18, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! TNM101 (chat) 16:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

TNM101: User:DreamRimmer/NPP-School/TNM101 – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I will get started on this and I will try to complete the first section in the next two or three days as I have some academic commitments that I will need to address first. TNM101 (chat) 16:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Again, thank you so much for your acceptance! TNM101 (chat) 16:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer I have completed the first section. Please provide your comments on anything I need to improve. Thank you TNM101 (chat) 11:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I will review these when I have some free time. – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Sure, no problem TNM101 (chat) 05:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

New Page Patrol Advice

Hey @DreamRimmer,

I have seen you have listed yourself under WP:NPP/S. Thankfully we are in the same country and timezone! Though I am not free for a full schooling course, I would request you some advice. I would like to request NPP soon, and would like you to review my contributions, and tell me what can I do more to be able to not be rejected the perm. Any areas I can contribute more while working towards that goal?

Thanks for your time and contributions towards the wiki! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:03, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay in responding. I will review your contribution tomorrow and provide some feedback. – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer Gentle reminder. No pressure though, and thanks for your contributiona! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

@Bunnypranav: I haven't had a chance to look at your other contributions, but I did go through your AfD votes. I noticed that you have voted in 10 AfDs, but your votes were mostly just one-liners without much explanation. You didn't mention the specific policies that support your reasoning for keeping or deleting articles. Many of your votes were in AfDs where a consensus was already reached, so it's hard for me to gauge your understanding of the policies. I would recommend going through the new page patrol guidelines and observing how others cast their votes in AfDs. Once you have spent a couple of months actively participating in AfDs with well-thought-out policy arguments, I'd be happy to provide more detailed feedback. Alternatively, you can also request NPR right at WP:PERM directly to see what admins think about your understanding of the policies. – DreamRimmer (talk) 06:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer thanks for the feedback. Being honest, AfD has never been a place of interest for me. Is AfD experience necessary for NPP? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 09:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I feel AfD is one of the best venues to show your understanding of new page patrol guidelines. Admins often look at your AfD record when reviewing your PERM requests. At the same time, spending time reviewing drafts at AfC is also a great way to show you understand notability and other important policies. – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:07, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I see, thanks for the tips! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Reference drive abomination

I'm being given double credit for my reference checks (5 instead of 2.5). This heinous cruelty must cease forthwith! Clarityfiend (talk) 16:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend: Please remove following lines from your review section, as the bot counts any line that starts with "#" as a review.

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My previous account

I forgot the password for User:NGC 2736. CometVolcano (talk) 05:05, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@CometVolcano: If you have linked a valid email address to your account, you can easily reset your password. But if there is no email address attached and you have forgotten password, unfortunately, it is not possible to recover the account. My advice would be to focus on your current account and avoid trying to link the old one. Since we can't verify if it is really yours, it could lead to confusion. – DreamRimmer (talk) 06:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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November thanks

story · music · places

Thank you for improving articles in November! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Fastily Bot

Hello, DreamRimmer,

I tried to make sense of the discussion about Fastily Bot but the only thing I gathered is that you are working on a bot to pick up some of the tasks that Fastily Bot handled. The ones I'm concerned about are #13 (updating Database reports) and #16 (notifying article creators when their content creation has been PROD'd). Any chance that these ones could be included in your work?

By the way, I've meant to come by for days now and thank you for creating the Quarry query that locates drafts whose last edit was by a bot. I know that both I and Explicit use this regularly and it really has saved us a lot of time. We actually used to go through bots' contribution history looking for these drafts and this query saves hours of time. My only request is could it also include User:CommonsDelinker, too? That would make it include all of the bots we regularly come across who make edits in the Draft space. Thank you again for sharing your technical knowledge to make editing easier for the rest of us! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: I am going to take on some of the important database reports and two file tasks, and DatGuy will handle the PROD and other deletion notifier tasks. For G13, I have updated the query here to include the CommonsDelinker. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Draft review

Hey @DreamRimmer, can you please review my draft Draft:Udne Ki Aasha? 117.230.143.80 (talk) 06:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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User:GalaxyBot/Reports/Top AfC reviewers

Hello, DreamRimmer,

I was wondering if I could alert AFC reviewers to the presence of this AFC report. I know there are several admins and editors who run Quarry queries to get a variety of this data but I think this report presents the information in an easy to understand format. But I didn't want to post at AFC talk before I checked with you. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

I am still improving it. I will post an alert at WT:AfC once everything is perfect. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:27, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Gotcha. I was just excited to see it since I see queries for this data all of the time on Quarry.

By the way GalaxyBot missed a G13 report tonight at 03:00 UTC. It usually posts a report even when there are no items on the list. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:14, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Never mind, the report came at 03:19 UTC. The report usually gets generated between xx:59 and xy:01 so it was just a little late. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: Bot was unable to query the database at 3:00 due to a connection error. After a few minutes, it retried and successfully updated the reports. If this happens again in the future, it will automatically try again after a short delay. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:51, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Stuff happens, I understand. I just tend to let bot operators know (after a few missed updates though) in case something needs tweaking. But I was here to leave another message so I thought I'd mention it. Thanks for all of your great tools! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:49, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the encouragement! I really appreciate all your messages. Please feel free to reach out anytime if you notice something that needs fixing or have any suggestions. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:18, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

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Global renamer tips

Hey @DreamRimmer,

I would like to start contributing to rename requests and found that I had to apply for the rights at Meta Wiki. While browsing through the previous successful requests, I found yours.

As a present global renamer, what advice would you give me if I wish to apply for that right. What experience should I gain, where can I contribute before applying, and anything else you would like to suggest me, especially as I am not a present admin. Below is my user toolbox for easily browsing through my contributions.

Thanks for your time! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:13, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Bunnypranav: I don't have any specific tips. You can go through the old requests on Meta to get an idea. Generally, users trust if the candidate is an admin on any wiki and has experience with username policies. I'd be happy to support your request if you demonstrate a strong understanding of username policies. A good way to start would be clerking at WP:CHUS and reporting username violations at WP:UAA. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:25, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I tried browsing through WP:CHUS but there is barely anything to manually clerk. I believe that existing accounts are reported by the bot clerk. I have one report at UAA, which was blocked by an admin, and will definately report more if found. So, wondering if there is anything else to gain experience and trust. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:28, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I understand that CHU venues don't require much help from human clerks. To demonstrate your understanding of username policies, you could start by reporting username violations at UAA. If you are interested in helping out in other areas of the wiki, you can explore tasks that align with your interests here. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, hope to apply for renamer soon. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

My advice would be to report at least 250 actionable username violations at UAA before applying. Applying directly and facing opposition votes could be discouraging. Just a friendly tip, since this is a very sensitive permission and their standards for support are quite high. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for giving a number to work on. (Note:I meant I'll apply after some experience in my previous comment) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:48, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thanks for creating this - Ratnahastin (talk) 16:10, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Seconding that. Restoring that functionality as a supported tool is a huge deal. Thank you so much. ~ Pbritti (talk) 12:51, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

GalaxyBot & Quarry query

Hello, DreamRimmer,

I'm not sure what's up but I was working with today's SDZeroBot G13 list (6/1/24) and found around 15 drafts in the 01:00 UTC hour whose last edit was Citation bot and whose last human edit dated back through the month of May, one all of the way back to May 5th. Then there was a draft that should have showed up whose last bot edit was by User:JJMC89 bot and I don't know if this bot was on your list. But this is a lot of drafts for the system to have missed.

I'm not sure what the problem could be here as the bot/query generally works but lately, I've noticed a few drafts that are eligible that haven't shown up when I looked at the GalaxyBot report or when I ran the Quarry query. Is it because six months ago was May 31st and we have no Nov. 31st? I don't want you to "pull" GalaxyBot because while it is not perfect, it's not reporting any drafts that are NOT eligible, it's just missing ones that are. I'd give you some draft links but because you're not an admin, you can't look at the deleted page histories.

Any way, I thought I'd let you know. I hope you are otherwise have a great weekend! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

And just came across Draft:Royrf whose last edit was Citation bot and whose last human edit was March 24, 2024! So this one should have appeared back in October when the query was created. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

@Liz, Would you mind temporarily restoring a few drafts in my userspace? You can delete them again after I have checked their edit history. – DreamRimmer (talk) 01:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Royrf wasn't shown because it didn't have an AfC template. There are hundreds of six-month-old drafts without an AfC template. If we could delete drafts that don't have an AfC template but do have the {{Drafts moved from mainspace}} template, that would be great since Wikipedia isn't meant to be a permanent host for these drafts. – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:58, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Well, this is awkward. Maybe you should discuss this with User:SD0001 because with SDZeroBot, which is our primarily G13 list, every draft page comes up on the G13 soon list, whether or not there is an AFC template. The AFC template is only important if it appears on a User page, like a sandbox. Then that User page is G13 eligible. But we've been deleting all draft pages without edits for six months and it's been like this since September 2020. I think this is also in-line with WP:G13 guidelines which just specify "Draft namespace".

It's almost 1 am here so I can get you those restored drafts in the morning (my time at least). But a couple of hours ago, GalaxyBot had a report listing 19 expiring drafts so maybe we are caught up. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:53, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

I have updated the query to include all bots, which is why 19 drafts were reported. Since SDZeroBot does not exclude bot edits, there is no issue with that report. However, reporting all types of drafts while excluding bot edits might not be appropriate. This is because, in some drafts, authors have used citation bot, and these drafts are not part of any AfC category. It is likely that the citation bot was run on individual pages, meaning the bot edit would count as a manual edit because the author initiated the citation bot on each individual draft. – DreamRimmer (talk) 09:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay, here are some of the drafts that your query/bot missed from last night: Draft:Alex Cara, Draft:Royrf, Draft:List of anime series released or distributed by Crunchyroll, Draft:Delhi Sports University, Draft:Nathan Crockett and Draft:LX Xander. It was easier to restore them to Draft space and we can take care of them in 6 months. It looks like none of these drafts had AFC tags but had bot edits as the last edit and they were all eligible for deletion as CSD G13s. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

SDZeroBot intentionally only lists pages which haven't been edited at all in the 6 month period, because FireflyBot doesn't notify authors of drafts that have had bot edits in that period. I feel we should not list such pages in reports as it would lead to a lot of deletions without the draft authors ever getting notified. If the new author notification bot is taking care of such pages, then I can fix SDZeroBot to include them. – SD0001 (talk) 09:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for offering your perspective, User:SD0001. You have very different bot results, SDZeroBot presents all CSD G13 eligible soon drafts and user pages/sandboxes while Dreamrimmer's bot/query helps us catch drafts whose last edit was by a bot but are actually eligible now. Believe it or not, to find these drafts before October, we used to comb through the contributions of CitationBot, CommonsDelinker, EarwigBot, FrescoBot, etc., looking for them so Dreamrimmer's method is much faster and saves us hours of time. You both have created invaluable tools for admins to use.

To think, before SDZeroBot, there would just be a database report issued once a day at 1:30 am (my time), listing all of the day's expired drafts, hundreds of them all at once. This new system allows us a much more manageable work flow throughout the day/evening and is more transparent. We can also see when "heavier" days are coming up by having a week's worth of G13 soon reports available to us. My only remaining wish is for FireflyBot to issue its 5 month report every time a draft gets close to expiring instead of only doing so once but I've asked and asked with no success. There might be some technical issues for this. Again, thanks to you both for your technical expertise. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

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