User talk:Drat/archive2

Vengeance engine

hey. vengeance engine is a still unreal engine as a base. vengeance engine is a irrational games's inside codename.—This unsigned comment was added by 3d engineer (talk • contribs) .

Thanks!

Thanks for making my new Mythbusters info more consistant with the rest of the article. Thoughtfix 19:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC) And thanks again for your continued edits! How did you do that huge info box in your user page? --Thoughtfix 21:53, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OTCS

I support you deleting that one; it's a textbook vanity article.Rycanada 13:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other speedy deletion templates

Just thought that you'd care to know that there's a whole bunch of variations on {{db}} in Category:Speedy deletion templates. Most are like {{db}} but give a preset reason. I've used {{db-nonsense}} and {{db-bio}} quite a bit when I've done new page patrol. — TKD::Talk 10:59, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Green Mile

I have no idea whether your statement about uniforms is true or not. What is the source of that information? Because, technically, the reverter doesn't have to disprove it, the asserter has to prove it. :) Wahkeenah 12:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. Yes, the dilemma is that it is clearly an obscure "fact", and it's unclear whether the deletion was implicitly denying that "fact" or if it was just done for the sake of random deletion. I am always skeptical of unexplained changes by a-nones. If it happens again that way, we can assume it's either vandalism or obstinance. Wahkeenah 13:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User page

Some a-none is messing with your user page. A "wiki nanny", as it were. One deleted comment reminded me of a couple of obscure quotes. Feel free to misquote me:

"Violence is justified in the service of mankind." -- Atilla the Hun (as per Love and Death).
We should all love our fellow man. I realize that there are some who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that! -- Tom Lehrer

I don't know much about the wiki rules, so I don't know if you're "allowed" to make "polemic" statements or not. However, I am pretty sure it is against the rules for others (especially a-nones, in my opinion) to alter your page. They should post something on your talk page if they don't like it, but I don't think they should be messing with the page itself. That's just my opinion, I could be Dennis Miller. :) Wahkeenah 14:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that a-none called your reinstatement of your own words "vandalism" tells me that the guy is just messing around with your page, or is an idiot, or both. Making changes to your own page might be subject to discussion, but is hardly "vandalism". I've seen a-nones and recently-registered sockpuppets use that term to "justify" repeated reversions of their own reversions, or simply to remove or reinstate something they disagree about. The Matt Leinart page is a good example of that. Wahkeenah 15:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Offensive views

I find this persons political views offensive and sick. I am from Liverpool and i am outraged, please delete them asap.

EXCUSE ME SON

I didn't remove the delection proposition tag from the Cricket Coach page as you accused. Please do not make such untrue claims in future--62.190.231.25 19:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disgusted

I am quite appalled by your disgusting views on Electronic Arts and must ask you to remove the despicable comments from your user page immediately. The allegations that Electronic Arts is a company driven by a "lust for profits" and is "driving companies, workers and gaming franchises into the ground" is not only baseless and most vile but dangerously close to libel as well. Electronic Arts have provided the gaming community with first rate games for decades now and will continue to do so in the future. Log in at www.ea.com to find out about EA's latest products.

Libel or not, the man has a point. EA does love their money. Notice how many Medal of Honor and Sims expansion packs there have been? Say you paid for the original Sim and all eight expansion packs at a decent price. You have paid probably well over $100 to $150 for a good Sims experience which is at least two to three times what you should pay. They also work the crap out of their employees. The numerous games they pump out year after year must only be because they work their employees like dogs. Hell, they even had to pay compensation to overworked in the past. And sure they put out good games every now and then, but most of their titles are either sequels or licensed games and not much that's sincerely original, with the exception of the upcoming Spore. Drat has a huge point in this regard that they "lust for profits". Vgamer101 17:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Blade runner guy-red on black bg.png

Wanted to say thanks for the wonderful job you did on the Blade Runner guy. And if you come across the desktop background in this pic in your internet travels, let me know. - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 04:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True, but you helped out. :"D Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 05:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RvB minor characters

When you get a chance, I'd appreciate your input on the list of minor characters in the Red vs Blue article. See Talk:Red vs Blue for the discussion ongoing. Thanks! — TKD::Talk 07:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CFD

You're welcome. It's a pity that the "move" button doesn't exist for categories. :) — TKD::Talk 03:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re

Not a big deal. It happens. K1Bond007 03:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re

I wasn't advertising, I have no affiliation with itiva. Your accusations are incorrect. The link was a reference made to the website where I got the information from.

PS: Perfect dark part was an accident.

Categories in templates

Just saw the issue with The Goon Show template. When you add an includeonly category to a template, it seems to take a while for the server to catch up and update all of the pages on which the template's included, unless you go and null edit (edit and save without changing anything; it doesn't leave an actual revision change entry) those pages. I frankly don't remember doing that when I created the Red vs Blue category, though, but I did have to do it when I went and added the auto-category stuff to {{RoosterTeeth}}. — TKD::Talk 14:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Odd coincidence

Somehow you managed to edit two totally unrelated articles that are on my (small) watchlist, Jets'n'Guns and Something Awful. Just thought that bore noting, especially since you didn't make any edits in between. Thanks for these edits, and the many others that you have made. :-) GreenReaper 08:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

paris catacombs - thanx

Thanx for the quick edit, despite my confusing typo!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kdammers (talk • contribs) .

I updated this to be a bit more specific. I'm new to wikipedia though, so feel free to go over it! :) -- hibou 10:10, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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On removing my AfD from P-P-P-Powerbook

True, I did remove the AfD from the page in question, but I also added a comment saying why I did that. It was not my intent to vandalize Wikipedia, but since noone knew why the page was nominated for deletion, I saw no reason to let the sign be there. 62.242.0.66 13:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Minor Orphanbot issue

Orphanbot told me I had uploaded an untagged image, Image:Wikiwings2.png. All I did was upload an optimised version over the original. I did not specify a tag as the image page retains the current info.--Drat (Talk) 12:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I just noticed the relevant discussion above. By the way, I use a similar message on optimisation uploads, but I use the string "Optimised with OptiPNG.". Will Orphanbot accept the alternate capitalisation (and the habitual period)?--Drat (Talk) 12:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed Orphanbot restored the "no license" tag, which I removed (as there is obviously a license). I won't remove it a second time, as the same will likely happen again.--Drat (Talk) 14:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. There was a bug where, if OrphanBot found page with a tag (like {{NowCommonsThis}}) that it knows doesn't specify anything about copyright, and another tag that it doesn't know anything about, it would tag the image as "no license" rather than reporting the unknown tag to me. I've fixed the bug.

OrphanBot now accepts other capitalizations for "optimized by", but when you posted, it didn't. --Carnildo 18:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image Size like Command & Conquer: Generals - Zero Hour

Hey Drat... I've recently been seeing a number of edits like yours which make main article images slightly larger. I was curious if this was a policy/guideline or was just coincidence? Thanks in Advance for the info! --Charlie^{(@CIRL | talk)} 05:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah-ha! That makes very good sense. Thank you very much for the excellent explanation! --Charlie^{(@CIRL | talk)} 05:42, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Mmbot

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Mmbot, which you proposed for deletion, because I feel that the deletion of this article may be controversial. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still feel the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article, as Proposed deletion is only for non-controversial deletions. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Mango juice^talk 14:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Machinima stub

Belated thanks for creating the machinima stub and category. I've been very busy lately, so my activity on Wikipedia will probably be a bit lower for a little while. (On top of work, the usual culprit, there are some games, old and new(ish) that I've left uncompleted for some time. :)).

Anyway, I've been pondering the viability of a WikiProject Machinima for some time. Wikipedia:WikiProjects suggests that 5 editors is probably the minimum level of interest to offset the overhead of a WikiProject. I don't know whether we have that many — at least counting those who have an interest in something outside of Red vs Blue (nothing against RvB, of course, but it's not WikiProject Red vs Blue that I'm looking for, at least not at this time). I do think that having a sort of centralized to-do list, style guidelines, etc., might be helpful, at a minimum. In fact, I've drawn up a rough cut of an essay at User:TKD/Writing about machinima, based on my experiences. Feel free to edit it or let me know what you think; you've been around longer.

By the way, have a barnstar:

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		For your vigilance in maintaining machinima-related articles, and dealing with the spamming of severely non-notable machinima productions. — TKD::Talk 23:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

— TKD::Talk 23:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This Spartan Life

I was the one who edited the This Spartan Life page. I am the technical director of Bong + Dern Productions. DO NOT delete my entries please.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fyb3roptik (talk • contribs) .

optiPNG

Please have a look at this regarding the usage of optiPNG. Thanks. --elias.hc 13:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TSL

Sorry. I am new to this whole wiki thing. Yeah that part of the Crew I can take out. It was just for fun.....Let me know if this is ok.

Thanks,

Fyb3roptik

Death of Tribes

IGA did kill tribes that year, why remove it and not the lies about them having a finished patch and exp pack for T:V on Tribes:_Vengeance—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Knightmare (talk • contribs) .

Sounds like you never even played the game.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Knightmare (talk • contribs) .

Deletion of Deletion Status

I recently deleted the deletion status off of an Angels and Airwaves single, and I was notified that it was vandalism. I was told that I shouldn't remove deletion status until there is a mass consensus that it should be removed. However, I was under the impression that the majority of the people discussing the topic agreed that it should be removed. What sort of consensus needs to be met in order for a user to remove deletion status? --sigloiv 19:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re

     Although I do see what you mean, I find it very unreasonable that some one like me, who has joined with the intention of contributing to Wikipedia, is unable to add a link to a site to a list of site, even though the administrators of other sites, which have no intention of contributing to Wikipedia are alowed there sites links on there. 
     If I am unbale to have the site link on them pages then surely no other site should be alowed either, addiations why have a, “fansites” area when one of the leading fan sites is unbale to have it’s link there.
     I do try and contribute to topics, which I am interested in but, it is some times hard to do so when so many other people are editing the area 9 times out of 10 before me.

Thanks, Ryan.

Re2

I can totally understand where you are coming from, and yes it is very suspicious, and was not done intentonaly. With your promition may I add the link along with other useful sites of that topic to the bottom of the list.

Thank you again, Ryan.

DXALPHA

I have played Deus Ex for 5 Years and I host a server and provide my own Deus Ex Site, i am a huge help the community and do anything to promote the game, DXALPHA is a clan, not a community site. im happy for you to keep it on but please do not take off my clan site. asshole :)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mossad- (talk • contribs) .

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Sidstation

I can confirm that roumour about the blue sidstation (since i spoke to the guy who sold it and I know a friend of him). Do you think that the information is still trivial? There are probably not more than 5 or 6 red beta-sidstations either. The two blue units ought to fetch a high price in the market and, maybe therefore the information should be there? it's a really rare collectors item?

best regards johan_h 13:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC) Johan Hellqvist[reply]

Sidstations again

Perhaps I'll get a reliable source for it and we can add it to the trivia-section. How about that?

johan_h 20:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LoadingReadyRun

Well, I've read it over again. I'm not sure whether to AfD it or not. --M e rovingian {T C @} 18:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. I'll see how it improves over a week or so. --M e rovingian {T C @} 18:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		Awarded for your work in getting Red vs Blue up to featured article status.

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Notability and speedy deletion

Just a heads up that the criteria for speedy deletion don't allow for speedy deletion if there is any assertion of notability, which I think there is in The Wahttehhog, as tenuous as it may be (10,000 viewers isn't much, but it is an assertion). I've retagged the article as a proposed deletion. — TKD::Talk 08:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

Saw your user page after editing LGS (disambiguation), and noticed you and I have a lot in common- Red Dwarf, Monty Python, old computer games (like Doom) and several similar pet hates, especially those who judge games on graphics alone (speaking of which, have you played Commander Keen? You can download it for free as ID software released it: try Dos Games (link to zip file).

Anyway, there was a point to this post (somewhere). Ah yes, as the creator to LGS (disambig), do you have an opinion on removing Leeds Grammar from the redirect on LGS? It's not exactly a major change, but thought I'd check anyway.

EvocativeIntrigue _{TALK | EMAIL} 20:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect all done. Nice MythBuster's photo! EvocativeIntrigue _{TALK | EMAIL} 10:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Loading ready run

This is not much of a message more just a request to keep the loadingreadyrun article up. The site has an active fanbase that are frantically trying to professionalize the article. I'm just asking for time and some benifit of the doubt

cheers—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fumbles2 (talk • contribs) .

More LoadingReadyRun

Hi, I'm Graham from LoadingReadyRun and I wanted to ask about the article.

Firstly, the original content was written by some fans of the site (which was awesome), and we're now on board trying to making things a little more concise and professional looking. Thanks for the week's grace.

I have a question about citations. How exactly would you like us to prove the various things we say? Take GEE Mag for example. It is true, I have a copy, but the best I could find on their site is some people talking about it in their forums (in German). There's some things it seems like we just can't prove beyond a shadow of doubt. Would posting a photo of the magazine work? Sorry, but I'm new to using Wikipedia and I'd appreciate the help.

thanks, -Graham

(I'm not sure how the Talk feature works, if I need a login or not, but my email is graham@loadingreadyrun.com) --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.69.249.36 (talk • contribs) .

Thanks

(please excuse any wrong doings as i'm also new to wiki) thank you for your help on the Loading ready run article. As you can see we are pretty dedicated to it getting up (as thecreator of the site graham has asked you about it). This is just a message of thanks as I can see you are trying to help us get this article up to speed and not just immeadiately delete it Fumbles2 10:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Commercial Site Links?

Then why is Moby Games allowed to have links on every game page Wikipedia has? They are a commercial site. Perhaps you own or work for them. I dont sell anything I just run a fansite.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.111.108.131 (talk • contribs) .

busted!

hi drat,

yes you are right, it is me! i didn't realize the guidelines. now i am embarrassed. anyway, it was a good exercise. now i am hooked on understanding how wiki works. i usually pick stuff up quickly but i find this daunting.

so what do we do, deleate it?

thanks /tp—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ub4k (talk • contribs) .

We have talk pages? who knew? :)

I originally learned about it when I was reading an interview done with Campbell himself. He wasn't pleased at all because they didn't ask his permission to effectively copy the 'Ash' character. Just did a search on it, and he's actually lamented the shady conduct in at least two separate interviews. You can read excerpts here: http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3216

http://verbosity.wiw.org/issue7/bruce.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bladestorm (talk • contribs) .

Mega64 move

I apologize, I'm still getting used to all of the rules we've got going on here.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by PoprocksAndCoke (talk • contribs) .

RvB characters

Do you have any further thoughts on how to handle the Tex situation? I've let it simmer for a few days, and I almost think that the best solution might be to start splitting the significant characters into their own articles, for reasons that I've outlined on Talk:Red vs Blue. I'm not 100% satisfied wit this idea, but I don't like the imbalance that's otherwise going to result from having more information on some characters than others (i.e., Tex's section is going to be rather long). If you've got a second, I'd appreciate your input. Thanks. — TKD::Talk 13:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rise of the Triad

Saw the edit you just left about ROTT.. That bit about the bonus bonus rebooting your computer is crap. I was one of the original ROTT developers, I know for a fact that was not the case. We actually hated the bonus bonus, becaue someone had to actually test it to make sure it worked, and it was a serious pain in the ass to obtain. :)

--Dopefish 05:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome

You're welcome for the revert. Not sure how big your watchlist is, but mine's pushing 1,500 entries, so I created User:TKD/Page log to track pages that I actually have contributed semi-significantly to; I use "Related changes" periodically to track this subset of my watchlist. Granetd, it's not the instant notification of "You have new messages", but it reduces the chance of me actually missing something for an extended period of time. — TKD::Talk 00:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Donut

I've finally finished off the Donut article, at Donut (Red vs Blue). Think there's anything it needs to be at least considered a Good Article? The only thing I can think of is that there's no negative criticism, which kind of undermines NPOV, but then again I've scoured the web a few times over and haven't found anything reliable that addresses Donut specifically. — TKD::Talk 23:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Submitted for GA. We'll see how it goes. — TKD::Talk 05:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zymotic deletion

You say:

Non-notable game-in-development. Googling "Zymotic" +alientrap -site:alientrap.org gets 587 hits.

How is that exactly deleton notable??? --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 00:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MythBusters

Thanks for incorporating the image I scanned and added into the Infobox. I would've done so myself, but I'm still trying to get a handle on how the Infobox is properly formatted. It looks much nicer now. :-) Nightscream 18:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shadows of the Metal Age

Hi, I took your advice and have added evidence of notability for Thief2X: Shadows of the Metal Age. This includes printed magazine references (best mod, notable community achievement, etc). I hope to balance the article with criticism and expand on some other points. Another point is that I thought the main Thief article is becoming overloaded! --Auralrothko 08:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your comments about the TriOptimum page

Hey Drat,

You might recognize me from the TTLG forums where I go by the name ZymeAddict. I don't know if you recall, but I recently made a post asking for good screenshots for the SS1 and SS2 wiki pages and you corrected my slightly erroneous warnings about posting pics on Wikipedia. ;)

Anyway, I just recently read your Wiki user page and noticed you thought the TriOptimum page (which I created incidently) was rather too small a topic for a whole seperate page. First I must say (newbie though I am) that I politely disagree. Given its nature as a fictional megacorporation, it seemed to me it was just as disserving of a page as such fictional entities as the Union Aerospace Corporation, Blue Sun, or VersaLife from Deus Ex. Also I do plan on adding more about their actual products (such as there computer AIs, cyborgs, and replicating machines) in the future, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

As a newbie to Wikipedia, however, I was kind of wondering about what you would think would be a better setup. Maybe a joint UNN/TriOp page? Thanks again for your help.

Grandpafootsoldier (yeah, I know, it's a stupid name, but what can you expect from one of those dumb Internet random name generators?) 16 July, 06

Nowiki

You probably could've fixed that by reverting and closing the tag in the proper spot before adding your own message, but this works too. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Darkwatch

Drat, I made corrections to the Darkwatch article. The rest of the content there seemed to be user created, and I didn't see see any inaccuracies and therefore left it intact. I'm wondering why you removed all of that content. --Sadat5 00:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)Sadat5[reply]

Picture License

Since you're my best friend on Wikipedia why don't you help me figure out what license to use here:

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Image:Tili3.gif

AbstractClass 15:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help. :) - AbstractClass 13:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The image tags were correct. However, because a dog is relatively easy to photograph, the image should really be replaced with one licensed under Creative Commons, the GFDL, or some other free-use license. I've tagged the existing image with {{fair use replace}} to indicate that a free alternative is feasible and should be found sooner than later. — TKD::Talk 06:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please give me a valid reason?

I just recieved your message and you don't seem to make a valid point beyond the fact that I had entered my link above any others. I'm not spamming instead I'm trying to add a link that has a more in depth resource about the TV show than you article on wikipedia. My website is not commercial trying to gain publicity to sell products and despite the fact that the website has only been published I've been working on it on and off since mid 2005. I still don't understand why those websites that have links to them are indeed allowed while mine is shunned. Maybe you could tell me how I could you link to my website rather that pointing out why I can't.

Yes i read the first line but those other websites break the same rule? 86.13.163.157 12:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright

Thanks for the message you sent me. First the copyright message at the bottom is located on most websites and is the norm. Secondly as far as copyright goes I have written permission by Terry Brain the creator of The Trap Door after I had written to him at Aardman Animations in the United Kingdom. Thirdly thanks for noticing the spell error as you keep pointing out the site is new and not yet completed but not far off however there is plenty of info on the site that goes beyond your entry on Wikipedia. To finish off with what are the main problems with my site not being listed. If its the age do i have to wait around 7 years and would it be accepted should someone else add the link themselfs?

Thanks for your help.

Chris nufc 12:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion

I noticed that you tagged the page Image:FCW in Ring.gif for speedy deletion with the reason "image from speedied article". However, "image from speedied article" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can use WP:IFD if you still want the article to be deleted. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 18:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You'll be pleased to know reply...

Good to know you're pretty smug about it to :) TwistedArachnid 00:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tyrian music

Drat, I saw that you removed the Music section I created in the Tyrian article. I apologise for it's ambiguous and possibly informal nature, however, I added it because the information on exactly what music format Tyrian 2000 uses (info that is suprisingly hard to find for someone without a hard-copy of T2000) is difficult to find. I, and i'm sure many other gamers, use Wikipedia as a source of information on old and classic games. To me, it's very frustrating when you download an old game only to find out that it's missing something, and that something is usually the music. Scouring the internet for an hour looking for whether the game has CD-audio is a pain in the arse, thats why I want the information in the Wikipedia article.

Most people who find the Tyrian 2000 download on World Tree Games or the iiNet fansite would be led to believe it's the full thing. No-where does it say that it's a rip (feel free to prove me wrong). Yes, the 4mb filesize is a slight giveaway, but as the original Tyrian used small LDS midi's for it's music, and as that many people aren't familiar with the notion of ripped games, they could be forgiven for thinking that the download is the full thing, which it isn't. I'd love it if you could improve the section, as I don't know very much about the actual songs or their genre.--Obeejw 07:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]