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Talk page archive July 2008 thru December 2008

Re: Image:Datpol.jpg

Please explain why you deleted Image:Datpol.jpg without responding to my edits to the image file? I see this as an abuse of your administrative powers. I will wait for your reply before posting an administrative notice. Dbiel (Talk) 19:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Fair use images of living people are only allowed under very very special circumstances. See this page. Seeing as DAT Politics appears to still be an active band, it is reasonable for someone to take their own photo of them and release it under a free license. (BTW, please respond on my talk page so I'll get a notice.) Melesse (talk) 03:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I did not ignore the posted tag. I read it, decided your rationale was not valid (and based on that quote, someone whose input you respect agrees with me) and deleted it. I don't know what more you want. If it so pleases you, go ahead and complain about me at the AN and see if anyone agrees with you. Melesse (talk) 00:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy Independence Day!

As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway!  :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 21:32, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:

Check the history of the archive.Electrical Experiment (talk) 03:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

responsed on users talk page where topic started Dbiel (Talk) 03:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
its ok Electrical Experiment (talk) 03:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

RE:MifterBot

Thanks for that :), I was just going to add that along with the fact that it had just been flagged but I was surprised to see that you beat me to it :). Thanks and All the Best, --Mifter (talk) 02:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for Good Article Review

Hello,

You were very helpful in the past and I was hoping you could take a look at Operation USA and help me to get it accepted as a good article, or at least point out what would prevent it from being a good article.

Best regards, Wattssw (talk) 09:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I reviewed the article and it looks fairly good to me. I made two minor edits to the opening section. I have two suggestions regarding additional changes. 1) It does not seem to have an ending section. It just comes to an abrupt end at Film and Theater Projects I am no expert in what makes a good article, and after looking at some of the featured articles, it appears that they also lack any ending section, so the suggestion to add one may not be correct; but I personally think it would make for a better article. 2)Linking of retrieved dates in the references section is something I do not like, BUT after reviewing a few featured articles it seems to be the current style, so I would not change it at this time. The next step to me would be for you to review the following page Wikipedia:Peer review and follow its advise. It looks like a fairly good article to me and I found it interesting reading. Sorry I can not be of any more assistance as I am not qualified in the area of article review. I wish you success in your endevours. PS since I failed to look at the talk page prior to writing this, I notice that you have already posted a good review request tag. One last thing I would suggest, if you have not already done so, is to double check each of the reference links for validity and accuracy. Dbiel (Talk) 17:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I have spent some more time reviewing the article and making a few copy edits. I have also created a good review page and added my comments there. The one major change that needs to be made is to change the date format used in the referece links to get rid of the red links, see the article talk page Talk:Operation USA Dbiel (Talk) 18:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

California

Got it, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Darwinism

Since Darwin's theory of genetics (Pangenesis) was totally wrong, it is unclear to me why you deleted the reference. --Zeamays (talk) 21:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

reply previous posted on users talk page. Dbiel (Talk) 21:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Knoxville airport

Your right. That does make sense to keep the Knoxville category for that airport. Thanks Xnatedawgx (talk) 14:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

King Abdullah II of Jordan.

75.23.217.15 wrote: 

   Recently one informed about President of Sudan Mr Omar Hassan Al-Bashir is Abbasi too. His tribe is known as "ja'aili" which is a branch of Abbasi tribe. One Doctor who contacted from Saudi Arabia which also an Abbasi from Egypt explained this.

86.60.67.97 wrote: 

   This is information is provided by me and for your all kind information the King of Jordon King. Abdullah is also Hashmi and rooted from Abbasi tribe. Abbasis i saw and met them in Saudia, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Some countries of Africa, Sudan especially, Pakistan & India etc etc.

Everybody knows that Kings Abdullah II of Jordan & Mohammad VI of Morocco are Hashimi. However, they are Alawi, not Abbasi. Is this what you meant? Or do you have proof that King Abdullah II of Jordan is Abbasi? Information service (talk) 10:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry that I have no idea of what you are talking about. I have not edited article Abdullah II of Jordan. Could you please indicate what article you are talking about?

As far as my knowledge of the subject, I have none. Any edit I may have made would have been related to preceived vandalism or unexplained edits that at face value did not make sense. Remember Wikipedia does not allow orignal research. Your personal knowledge is not valid Wikipedia content, but it should help you in finding notable sources to support your knowledge which is what Wikipedia is all about. Dbiel (Talk) 19:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

After doing some more research, the article in question is Abbasi and the copy posted above was accidently reverted back into the article by mistake. I have correct my error in the article and moved the bad copy to the talk page with additional explaination of my error. Sorry about the mistake Dbiel (Talk) 19:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the answer, Dbiel. Information service (talk) 09:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Protestantism revisions

Dbiel,

Why would you undo changes that I had made? Why do you say it went way too far? Was Luther not a monk or the father of Protestantism? I don't see how that was too far or inaccurate. Please explain.

Thank you,

Theology10101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theology10101 (talk • contribs) 03:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Will move this discussion over to the article talk page as a better place to discuss this issue. Dbiel (Talk) 04:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Charles E. Smith Jewish Day School

I did only copy the rating from the other projects listed on the talk page. After a good look at the article, It is definately a C-class article. For it to get B-class, we would probably need to improve the lead, expand a few of the sections (eg. history) and remove the mission statement section. Good spot. Have ammended the rating. Five Years 13:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Upon second thought, the lack of references is a major concern, and I have gone to start class. Five Years 13:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I only do class ratings to help reduce the backlog of 1200+ articles. Once there is no longer a backlog, i do intend on assessing for importance. Five Years 15:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Lynch2000s (talk · contribs)

Hi. Please note that I've reverted yet another edit by this user that involved piping. Please check for any more instances of over-wikification. Apparently the user doesn't understand that this isn't nessecary. Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 15:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Also, the user appears to be a sockpuppet of Lynch1000s (talk · contribs), see this ANI post. Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 20:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted a bunch of his edits and also posted to the link you provided above. Thank you. Dbiel (Talk) 20:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Have you read the book? Constant theme is the subtle psychological torture of one another by two of the main characters! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.236.177.22 (talk) 01:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

re: assessment of Maine West High School

Thank you very much for taking the time to assess this article. I cannot agree more .... this is a tough call. I in no way would challenge the "C" assessment, though I appreciated the props of saying that it is at least close to a "B". LonelyBeacon (talk) 11:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Please note: I am not saying that the article IS C-Class. It looks like B-Class to me. I am just not confortable or experienced enough yet to rate any article as B-Class. I just saw no reason at all to leave it as Start Class. Dbiel (Talk) 15:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

changess to a page

hey i appreciate your feedback and suggestions but how to do learn how to work on the pages and make tables and stuff like that please just respond on my talk page thanks:)


--Ovgridiron56 (talk) 20:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

"Practice" vs. "Practise"

I know this is a minor point, but I noticed your reversion a few days ago of an edit by ArdClose to Moses in which the former changed "practice" to "practise". In British English, as well as the written English of most other countries excluding the USA, the correct spelling of the verb is "to practise". The Wikipedia article Practice refers to the noun rather than the verb, so is not relevant. The most Wikipedia's policy has to say on the issue is that it doesn't really matter, though I suppose you could use the same argument to say that ArdClose's edit was unnecessary. But then, so was reverting it. Robin S (talk) 01:52, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your speedy reply. I was mostly curious to see whether there was something that I had missed, either in general policy or pertaining to this particular case; I have noticed that edits like ArdClose's (and, often, subsequent revisions) are very common, regardless of the prevailing use in the article, and am never really sure what to do about them. Robin S (talk) 03:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
reply posted to user's talk page Dbiel (Talk) 03:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi. :) Thanks for pointing out the problem at LAMBDA School of Music and Fine Arts, here. I've removed the infringement, left a note at the article's talk page and warned the contributor. I would like to point out to you, though, that per the instructions we are supposed to tag copyright infringing pages with the {{copyvio}} template. There's a good reason for this, as it not only tells contributors how to properly contribute but also (and more importantly) reduces the risk of the infringement being mirrored on other sites. Once we have discovered a copyright infringement, we can't continue to publish it. While articles which are speedily deleted for copyright concerns are not blanked, articles which are listed at WP:CP are not closed for a full seven days, during which if we continue to display the suspect text we may be liable of contributory infringement. Obviously, since this article is handled, this is an FYI for future discoveries. :) Again, thanks for finding that issue and helping keep Wikipedia in the copyright clear. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

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Category:Uncategorized from September 2008

Hi, please do not create categorise so pre-emptively. We rely on future categorise not existing to track mistakes where the maintenance tags have been dated into the future. Thanks and take care, ~ AmeIiorate U T C @ 22:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

replied on user's talk page Dbiel (Talk) 19:01, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

{{editor toc}}

{{helpme}} Is it possible to make use of {{editor toc}} without it adding the user page to Category:Editor handbook see User:Dbiel/Cheatsheet Dbiel (Talk) 04:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Done. Just add |category= as a parameter to exclude the category. Cheers, WODUP 04:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction

Thanks for the correction. I can never keep the syntax of all the different templates straight. It does seem strange that they require completely typing out the full month name. It probably too difficult to make them accept Sept, September or just 9. Perhaps I should just leave them blank and let the bots put in the dates. -- ☑ SamuelWantman 06:11, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome. I know what you mean. I would agree with you that it is easier to just let to bots add the date to the tags. Dbiel (Talk) 19:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


Schools Barnstar

The Schools Barnstar
For long-term contributions to school-related articles on Wikipedia, I award Dbiel the Schools Barnstar! --Jh12 (talk) 13:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


Article 'Jayen varma'...The Title is to be disappeared along with the page

Yes, there is a language problem...between me and you all. Now your question is "whether The page would have to be deleted and then protected from being recreated. Is this what you are asking to be done with the Jayen Varma article?". Yes that is what I am asking to be done as a permanent solution. Otherwise, people will come up and write in it again and again. In this case I, Jayen Varma, am the affected party. So its my earnest request to delete the page, along with the title 'jayen varma' and then protect it from being recreated anywhere in Wikipedia. I mean the Title 'Jayen varma' should also be deleted Thanks and regards--Jayenvarma (talk) 08:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Temple City CA Seal.gif)

Thanks for uploading Image:Temple City CA Seal.gif. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 06:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Note: image was replaced with Image:Temple City CA Seal.png Dbiel (Talk) 01:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Article 'Jayen varma'...The Title is to be disappeared along with the page

Yes, there is a language problem...between me and you all. Now your question is "whether The page would have to be deleted and then protected from being recreated. Is this what you are asking to be done with the Jayen Varma article?". Yes that is what I am asking to be done as a permanent solution. Otherwise, people will come up and write in it again and again. In this case I, Jayen Varma, am the affected party. So its my earnest request to delete the page, along with the title 'jayen varma' and then protect it from being recreated anywhere in Wikipedia. I mean the Title 'Jayen varma' should also be deleted Thanks and regards--Jayenvarma (talk) 08:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I have posted a request for indefinite create-protection of Jayen Varma at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection per your requests on you user pages. Please be aware that this request only relates to Jayen Varma and not to Jayen varma or JayenVarma or other similar page names (titles). Dbiel (Talk) 19:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

User:75.66.103.144

How should the edits by User:75.66.103.144 be handled? edits are to add articles to the non-existant categories such as Category:Fictional Christians and Category:Fictional Protestants Is it a valid category that should be created, or should the edits all be reversed? Dbiel (Talk) 01:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

removed help tag, as categories have been deleted previously. added new help tag

{{helpme}} Is it acceptable to use rollback to delete the above mentioned edits? Dbiel (Talk) 01:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I would condone using rollback in this case. ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 01:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping Jayenvarma. Have a great day, Dbiel. -Porchcrop (talk|contributions) 06:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

The reason I picked up about the poster image in the example infobox so quickly...

...was because I almost made the same mistake myself a few days ago, but managed to catch it before I pushed the save button. Frankly, I have some question about why that particular poster is PD, but that's a different problem! Best, Ed Fitzgerald t / c 22:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

An article is tough than music

To Mr.Dbiel, This is to personnally thank you for guiding us to make the writings about jayen varma look like an article. We thank all editors and administrators here. Writing an article in good quality is harder than playing music. We have been doing it just like you guided us. God.. we are tired. Please make any corrections if needed. May God bless you... thank U..for all the help!!!!!!!! !----Fansfans123 (talk) 03:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanx

Dear Mr.Dbiel, We thank U for the guidance in editing the article placed by us earlier. Many people appreciated the present edit. We read ur profile. Great person you are and you re contributing so much to the world of knowledge. May God bless you. we do not want to go for any more edits in wikipedia in any articles in WP, because that may lose the beauty of articles, since we are unaware of article placing and proper editing. But we shall bring to your notice if we find any false matter is found placed by anyone in the music category. We respect you . Our bassist really appreciated you, all the editors and administrators and WP's rules after reading the article. Thanks --Fansfans123 (talk) 01:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I am glad I was able to help Dbiel (Talk) 04:09, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Alexis Amore

Hello. I reverted because the information was unsourced. Unfortunately IMDB isn't considered a WP:RS because its information is submitted by users and not subject to fact-checking, so I'm going to have to remove the information again. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 04:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there's a consensus concerning whether IAFD is a RS (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pornography#Reliable sources). Sorry I didn't check to see that much of the same information that's at IMDB is also at IAFD. I'll restore it. Sorry. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 05:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
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Dodo

I reverted the inclusion of the category Megafauna because the person who did it is apparently on a campaign to stick literally every single page about any animal over 44 lbs into category Megafauna. You mind if we put category Raphinae into Megafauna, rather than just Dodo?--Mr Fink (talk) 13:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I follow you logic and it makes sense to me. Thanks for pointing it out Dbiel (Talk) 14:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I tried to explain to this person that sticking every page featuring animals over 44 lbs into Category: Megafauna would make it too broad and or too arbitrary to be useful. Personally, I want to reorganize it by putting in only all of the relevant taxon categories, i.e., Panthera instead of Felidae+lions+tigers+bearcats+housecats, etc.--Mr Fink (talk) 02:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I would agree with turning the category into a Parent Category. Keep up the good work. Dbiel (Talk) 12:28, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the NCCC page

So headings should never be linked? Wjwetzel (talk) 02:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

See WP:HEAD "Section names should not normally contain links, especially ones which link only part of the heading; they will cause accessibility problems." Dbiel (Talk) 03:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Also my second question is how do i upload a picture

Wjwetzel (talk) 02:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Uploading images Dbiel (Talk) 03:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

ThanksWjwetzel (talk) 03:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

NCCC- Man I cant seem to get wiki right

https://my2.americorps.gov/mp/listing/viewListing.do;jsessionid=c0a8060e30d7d977b68a9fe94249906ba45bc977d523.e3uLc3qRa3yOe34Rbh8OaNmLbi1ynknvrkLOlQzNp65In0?fromSearch=true&id=7976&SID=c0a8060e30d7d977b68a9fe94249906ba45bc977d523

Thats where I got the picture....Look in the lowe right hand corner. I figured since this a federal government program it can be posted.

Dude your f-ing awesome and I thank you for helping me. Wjwetzel (talk) 04:08, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Wjwetzel (talk) 04:10, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Please do not get hung up with the thought "I cant seem to get wiki right" Wikipedia is very easy to edit, but that is a lot to learn to be able to do it correctly. It simply takes time to learn it. And the best way to learn is trial and error. So keep up the good work and keep learning as you go. You are off to a very good start. Dbiel (Talk) 04:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

PLease Look in to it

Sir, We see that the article Jayen Varma is seen edited now by someone else. Please make sure if it has been edited by the WP editors or by some unknown persons. Thanks and Regards. --Fansfans123 (talk) 12:26, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Reply - regarding the edits by other users; there really is no such thing as WP editors, anyone is permitted to edit any article so long as the edits themselves comply with the Wikipedia policies. As time permits, I will review the edits in more detail and see what I can do to improve the article. Dbiel (Talk) 20:24, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the MySpace link removal, see the following note:
Note that under WP:External links#What_should_be_linked, a link to a social networking site may be included when it is the official website for a business, organization, or person.
I took a look at both the MySpace entry: http://www.myspace.com/jayenvarma and the official web page http://www.jayenvarma.net It would be easier to add it back if there was a direct reference to the myspace page on the jayevnarma.net web site, rather than just the general reference to myspace.com Do you think he would be willing to change his web site to provide a link to the actual myspace.com page? I will continue to review the article as time permits. Dbiel (Talk) 21:19, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Thats alright

Yes we understand what you say. Thanx a lot. There is a link of myspace in his website http://www.jayenvarma.net . The "MYSPACE" in the website is the link to the site. So We wud appreciate if the website jayenvarma.net reamins there in the article, if the WP policies dont permit sites such as myspace etc. We know that you re busy and sorry for making the request. We will add as many informations in sand box Fansfans123/Jayen Varma. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Fansfans123/Jayen_Varma . So that you can varify with that.... thanx and regards...--Fansfans123 (talk) 04:45, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Please do not feel bad for making the requests, the fact that I am busy is pointed for the single purpose to help you understand why I may not be able to deal with it as quickly as you might expect. Feel free to post your questions and requests at any time, just be a bit patient if I do not respond right away.
I see that the link to myspace has been added (or did I just not see it the first time I looked?) to jayenvarma.net so I restored the entry in the Wikipedia article. I will work on the other issues as time permits. Thanks for your patience. Dbiel (Talk) 05:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

We have just added few facts and informations in the sand box giving due respect to the changes already made earlier by others. Pl see the link below and see if these are acceptable as per the wikipedia rules. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Fansfans123/Jayen_Varma Thankyou for all the help. Regards...--Fansfans123 (talk) 06:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

RE: 60.241.54.145

Ok, that was just disturbing... :) Kuru talk 01:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I do not know how to translate what you have written. Would you care to explain your post? Dbiel (Talk) 01:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
My apologies for the confusion. I was commenting on the rather odd editing habits of the IP that you have been monitoring (here) and reporting at AIV. It's just bizarre that he's been keeping that trivial nonsense up for two years now. I've blocked the account for a year; sadly I predict he will pop right back up. Kuru talk 01:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply Dbiel (Talk) 01:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

USS New York (LPD-21)

Dbiel There is now 3 links to the Commissioning committies web site on this page, doesn't that constitute spamming. Additionally do new links go on top or on the bottom? Additionally the commissioning date is Veterans Day 2009 as per the ussny.org website in the news section

Nov. 11, 2008 -- USS NEW YORK Commissioning Committee, Governor Paterson and Mayor Bloomberg Announce Veterans Day 2009 and Pier 98 as Date and Place of Warship's Commissioning Ceremony —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.224.140 (talk) 14:51, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Article link USS New York (LPD-21)

I guess that there is some confusion as to the commissioning date, and as I have not researched it to any real extent, I will give way to those who have. But as to spamming, reference links are never considered spamming, but if there are duplications, then they need to be named to avoid multiple listings. Dbiel (Talk) 20:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
After some more review, I find your note regarding the date to be correct, so I have edited the article accordingly. Thank you for your input. Dbiel (Talk) 21:13, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
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