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The GAN Newsletter (November 2012)

The WikiProject Good articles Newsletter
Volume III, No. 2 – November 2012

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Polarscribe

Hi, I'm having trouble with an editor http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/Polarscribe who seems to be unable to discuss things without making bold edits with snarky edit summaries. Always amusing to see a newbie cite policies and speak as if they own the place. I believe he is a former administrator but I don't know who and I want to know why he can't use his old account. Can you check user him for me?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:59, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 05 November 2012

Hey

Taki GAR is waiting for over 2 weeks now. --Niemti (talk) 19:50, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 12 November 2012

Bone Wars etc.

Hi David! I wonder—remembering your Bone Wars and Edward Drinker Cope—if you have any advice for me regarding Charles Whitney Gilmore. I have amassed a great deal of research on him (most of which hasn't made it into the article yet), but it's mostly from contemporary sources, and I'm struggling to find any comprehensive modern analysis of his contributions to paleontology. I'm also trying to get my hands on one specific source (Lewis, George Edward. 1946. "Memorial to Charles Whitney Gilmore." Proc. Geol. Soc. Amer. 1945, pp. 235-244) which has thus far eluded me. Have any book suggestions for me, or a connection that might be able to scare up the GSA source? Would appreciate any help you can offer. Thanks. Maralia (talk) 04:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's the right publication. Would love to track it down—thanks! Maralia (talk) 05:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Clarify

Wanted to get clarification on your statement discuss via email and approach in a unified way onwiki -- I'm not getting what you mean by "approach" in this context. Does mean discussion phase of the committee or presentation to the community of results (or something else)? NE Ent 16:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 19 November 2012

RE: my question

Thanks for the answer, interesting to hear your view. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:47, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

ACE Candidate statement

Just as a formality, I recommend adding the mandatory statements regarding alt account disclosure and complying with the identification policy to your statement. While your already an Arb, and have had to do both already, it would be better to have everyone include them in their statements even if they can be inferred. Thanks, Monty845 00:17, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Do you work for Koren Fublishers Jerusalem, or is that a different David Fuchs?

62.90.120.177 (talk) 12:42, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello random IP person! Nope, there's far more people with the name "Fuchs" out there than you might expect. I'm regularly confused with a personal injury lawyer as well. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 13:39, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

ACE2012 Candidate Statements

Hi David Fuchs -- you need to add the following to your candidate statement, per the eligibility requirements: (1) a listing of alternate accounts, or a statement that you have none and (2) a statement of your wilingness to identify with the Foundation or an indication that you have already so identified.

Thanks and best regards, Lord Roem (talk) 00:05, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Seems to me the fact that David is a sitting arbitrator indicates a willingness to identify to the Foundation. NE Ent 01:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
As a sitting arbitrator, David is already identified, but in any event, he's updated his statement as requested. Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:18, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

FAC help

Hey David, I was wondering if you could do me a little favor. I've got the Drowned God FAC going pretty well, with two supports, but just got an oppose a couple days ago. I think I've addressed all the issues, but the editor suggested someone else take a look at the prose. Since you've got plenty of FAC experience, and this is a video game article, I thought you might be able to either add a review or just look the article over and post that you've checked the prose. Thanks for any help. —Torchiest talkedits 15:10, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help so far. Be sure to check the FAC's talk page to avoid duplicative effort. —Torchiest talkedits 15:39, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Did you have any other issues with the article? I think everything on the FAC page has been addressed now. Thanks again. —Torchiest talkedits 20:10, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Re: your question about spotchecks, GermanJoe checked about half a dozen a week or so ago. They're still listed on the FAC page if you want to check different ones. —Torchiest talkedits 20:03, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the review and support. This will be my first FA, so I'm pretty excited. —Torchiest talkedits 19:20, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 November 2012

Dispute resolution volunteer survey

Dispute Resolution – Volunteer Survey Invite

Hello David Fuchs. To follow up on the first survey in April, I am conducting a second survey to learn more about dispute resolution volunteers - their motivations for resolving disputes, the experiences they've had, and their ideas for the future. I would appreciate your thoughts. I hope that with the results of this survey, we will learn how to increase the amount of active, engaged volunteers, and further improve dispute resolution processes. The survey takes around five to ten minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released.

Please click HERE to participate.
Many thanks in advance for your comments and thoughts.

You are receiving this invitation because you have either listed yourself as a volunteer at a dispute resolution forum, or are a member of a dispute resolution committee. For more information, please see the page that describes my fellowship work which can be found here. Szhang (WMF) (talk) 02:46, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tyrant

Ha ha. Never letting that one go I see? But anyway, Thanks for the review of Tyrant. I'll look at it again and see if its fit for GA status. I also went on Taki's review and suggested that it should be copy edited by the Guild of Copy Editors. GamerPro64 15:44, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Peer review

Hi. Since you gave comments on articles that are currently listed at WP:PR, I was wondering if you could give some helpful comments to Wikipedia:Peer review/Cher/archive1? Thanks, Lordelliott (talk) 21:10, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Question about troublesome user

David, I wonder if you could put on your Arbcom hat and give me your opinion on the best way to proceed with a troublesome user. The user in question is Paul Bedson (talk · contribs), a prolific editor of articles related to genealogy, history, and archaeology. I first encountered him less than two weeks ago. I'm drafting an RfC/U about him in a sandbox, with help from several other editors.

I think that what will happen is that the RfC/U will run, and most editors will agree that Paul's behaviour is unacceptable. Paul will either refuse to accept a voluntary topic ban broad enough to be effective at stopping his negative behaviour, or he will accept it and disregard it at some point in the future. That will result in an Arbcom case, and I think he's likely to be placed under editing restrictions or topic banned there. He's already been warned as part of the pseudoscience case enforcement.

My question is whether the RfC/U is the most productive thing to do at this point. I know that Arbcom wants to see attempts at dispute resolution, but it's going to take time, during which Paul is costing a lot of effort from other editors deleting or cleaning his edits. Is there a better way to handle this?

More details on request, or you could wade through some of the diffs in the RfC/U draft, if you like, though I'm still tidying those up. Thanks for any advice on this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:08, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Amazing User Barnstar
Congratulations, David Fuchs! I have decided to award you this barnstar because of your simply excellent contributions to the English Wikipedia. Thank you very much for all of your hard work here. You truly deserve this, and please enjoy it. Cheers! TBrandley 05:18, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

The WikiProject: Good Articles Newsletter (December 2012)

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Volume III, No. 3 – December 2012

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Follow up on Paul Bedson

In case you are interested in following it, the RfC/U is now up.

I've had almost no involvement with troublesome users over the years I've been on Wikipedia, so I have little background knowledge about the most effective and quickest way to address the problem. Can you enlighten me? What are the options moving forward? Although it's barely a day into the RfC/U, it seems clear what will happen -- there's going to be a strong consensus that Paul's behaviour is inappropriate, and Paul won't agree and won't change. If he slows down or stops his mainspace edits while this is going on, then there's not too much to worry about, but if he continues to edit at his usual speed, he will be creating a good deal of material that will waste the time of editors such as Agricolae, who has spent what must be tens of hours by now in the last month cleaning up Paul's work. If that happens, what can be done? Can he be blocked on an administrator's decision while the RfC/U is still in progress, if he refuses to stop making problematic edits? Would that be a question for ANI?

Thanks for any helpful advice. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 December 2012

Escape From Butcher Bay's PR

I know that you have a lot on your plate and you usually forget so I'm just reminding you about Escape From Butcher Bay's PR and the review you were planning to do. GamerPro64 15:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

FAC Review help

Hello, I recently nominated an article, "The Sixth Extinction II: Amor Fati" for FAC, and its been opposed (probably rightfully so) by editors who insist it needs a more thorough copy-edit. I was directed towards your name, although I'm sure you are rather busy. If you have any time/know anyone who would be willing to help, that would be greatly appreciated! Thank you for reading this.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 21:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

DC Meetup #33

December 10 is Ada Lovelace's birthday! Not only was she the world's first computer programmer, but also the world's first female open source developer! Come celebrate with Wikimedia District of Columbia at Busboys & Poets for an informal get together!

The Washington, DC event will be held on Monday, December 10, 2012 at Busboys & Poets on 5th St NW & K St NW near Mt Vernon Square. The area is easily accessible by the Red Line Chinatown stop and the Yellow Line and Green Line Mt Vernon Square stop, as well as by WMATA buses.

Kirill [talk] 14:14, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Star Trek

Hi Fellow editor, I know there is being WP:Bold, but can we at least have a discussion before you delete my references? In anycase I've added a couple of more references. I've got several more from other sources of you don't think their enough. All the Best SH 07:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 December 2012

Wikimedia DC Holiday Party and Wiki Loves Monuments Exhibition

Please join Wikimedia DC and four other local media nonprofits—the National Press Club's Young Members Committee, 100Reporters, IRE and the Fund for Investigative Journalism—in winding down another year with a night of well-mannered frivolity.

The festivities will take place on Friday evening from 6:30 PM to 9:00 PM in the Zenger Room on the 13th Floor of the National Press Club, located on 529 14th Street NW, near Metro Center. There will be meat and vegetarian appetizers as well as a cash bar with specially reduced drink prices all night long. In addition, we will be exhibiting the finalists of the Wiki Loves Monuments photo contest at the event.

Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 04:38, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

An FAC video game copy-edit

This article has received several copy-edits since September, but a user indicates that there are still prose issues; her issue is that there are things that don't make sense for non-gamers. A couple of editors have tried to fix these problems since she made point about them, but she indicates there are still issues. She referenced you in her last post on the FAC. The article is God of War (video game). Much appreciated if you could look over the article and fix these issues. --JDC808 ♫ 06:13, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Just checking to see if you're still able to do this. --JDC808 ♫ 12:18, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations

Rather you than me :) --Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:28, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

You have my congratulations per elen (and my empathy per Coren : ) - jc37 22:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk:X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse/GA1

Just pinging you to remind you of the review as you requested. Haven't heard anything for a few days. --Teancum (talk) 14:50, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 December 2012

SW

Hi David, First, I don't know enough about either Schumin or the situation to offer anything constructive beyond what others have posted; so perhaps I'm off base on this. I noticed some wording in your motion proposal though ...

  • "Should SchuminWeb not return to participate in the case within one year of this motion passing, this case will be closed, and the account will be desysopped; returning the tools will require a new request for adminship."

That left me with the impression that you (the Arbs) would be leaving the admin. bits in tact for a year. In reading what many of the other arbs had posted, I wasn't sure if that was your intent. Not that it matters to me in the least, It's just that I was a bit puzzled about waiting a year to "desysop"; and thought maybe there was a word or two missing from the motion that you may have intended to include.

Either way - I wish you and yours a very happy holiday season. Best. — Ched :  ?  15:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


  • Never mind (about the motion) .. I see you folks have several different options now posted. But keep the "Have a great holiday season" part. :) — Ched :  ?  01:28, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Motion regarding David Fuchs

Insomuch as that David Fuchs is a decent guy, and now stuck (again) with ArbCom (thankyouverymuch) I move that Fuchs be wished a very happy holiday season.

Support
  1. As proposer. KillerChihuahua 01:44, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
  2. ROTF Support. I don't recall working with David on anything - but have never seen a bad thing from him, so it's a "trust the nom" support. — Ched :  ?  01:47, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
    Procedural point; Fuchs is not associated with Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (see ROTF). The correct support rationale is ROFL. KillerChihuahua 02:47, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Festivus

Happy Festivus!
Here's wishing you a happy Festivus!
May you emerge victorious from the Feats of Strength,
may your list of Grievances be short,
and may your days be filled with Festivus Miracles.
—Torchiest talkedits 14:02, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!


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Hello David Fuchs! Wishing you a very Happy Merry Christmas :) TheGeneralUser (talk) 13:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy holidays

Some Christmas traditions are very difficult to explain. Kind of like Wikipedia policies.

Wishing you and yours a joyous holiday season, and happiness, health and hopefulness in 2013. I trust you'll enjoy this little token, a favourite performance of Baby, it's Cold Outside, for your holiday amusement. For those of a more traditional inclination, I offer this rendition of my favourite carol.
Best, Risker (talk) 15:30, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


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The WikiProject: Good Articles Newsletter (January 2013)

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Talk:X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse/GA1, done

I've tried to address everything you mentioned. I have one last comment at the bottom, but other than that I think it's done. Thanks! --Teancum (talk) 14:48, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Best wishes for the New Year!
Here's wishing you and yours a joyous, healthful, and productive 2013!

Please accept a belated thank you for the well wishes upon my retirement as FAC delegate this year, and apologies for the false alarm of my first—and hopefully last—retirement; the well wishes extended me were most kind, but I decided to return, re-committed, when another blocked sock was revealed as one of the factors aggravating the FA pages this year.

Maintaining standards in featured content requires vigilance, dedication and knowledge of people like you, who are needed; reviews are always welcome at FAC, FAR and TFA requests. Somehow, somehow we never ever seem to do nothin' completely nice and easy, but here's hoping that 2013 will see a peaceful road ahead and a return to the quality and comaraderie that defines the FA process, thanks to many dedicated Wikipedians!

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Halo navbox

The link is duplicated by the series link at the top of the navbox; in addition, it introduces an anchor, both of which NAV suggests we avoid. --Izno (talk) 15:37, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Talkback

Hi David. I posted a couple of lengthy responses to you at User_talk:Hammersoft#Re:_User_talk:Doncram. You can respond if you like, but it's not necessary. I am just hoping you'll read my comments. Regards, --Hammersoft (talk) 15:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Halo 4 retention

Well David. It seems Halo 4 is approaching the end of its grace period (2013-02-06) so hopefully this and Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary can finally be placed on the topic. That and the soundtrack. GamerPro64 15:52, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. That's sounds right. GamerPro64 21:27, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm really sorry for mentioning this but looking at the Halo template, there is a lot of media that needs to be part of the topic. Besides the ones I mentioned above, there's also Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn that, while it may require more work, its grace period ends February 2nd. But that's not the major problem. I also found the article for Halo: Cryptum, a novel based in the Halo universe published at the start of 2011. So I apologize if this comes off as an inconvenience but I have a feeling that someone would mention it in the supp nom. GamerPro64 20:03, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Halo 4 and OST

Halo 4
  • I think the Lead and Critical Reception section needs expanding. A written summary in the Accolades section should be added.
  • I feel Development and Release are mainly complete; there are some smalls parts I wanted to expand on with references already there or hidden, but I think the main and necessary content is there.
  • I haven't read through the Campaign/Spartan Ops section at all, but it looks like it needs citations.
  • Settings and characters needs expanding. The section only mentions factions/Chief/Cortana but none of the other significant characters. I think maybe more detail is needed on setting (locations) that the game takes place in.
  • I think the Gameplay section could be summarised better.
  • I think before nominating for GA, some outside evaluation from users who haven't worked on the article might be useful to see if any points have been missed and that it is readable/understandable from someone with no knowledge on the game.
Halo 4 OST
  • Needs alot of expanding and rewriting. When I wrote parts, I just summarised key points without going into great detail. Background and recording especially needs alot more detail. Not sure if there are any other sources of info, like interviews with those involved in album (like the artists who did remixes) but it would be useful to find some more decent sources to expand.
  • Needs Personnel section. The credit list in the digital booklet is quite extensive so this might take a while to write in a suitable/clear format.
  • Reception needs expanding, its probably useful to use Halo 4 reviews from game critics that commented on the soundtrack as well as those from music critics.

The1337gamer (talk) 14:45, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Video game soundtracks

Quick question: how much information do we generally include for video game soundtracks? Check here; about a month ago I got a copy of this soundtrack and scoured the liner notes for information; I'm used to doing that for actual album articles, but now I'm thinking it's too excessive for a subsection in a video game article. Would removing just the personnel section be better? Thanks. —Torchiest talkedits 18:44, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the ideas. —Torchiest talkedits 19:03, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 January 2013

Talkback

Hello, David Fuchs. You have new messages at Dougweller's talk page.
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Thanks for letting me know. Dougweller (talk) 14:40, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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I think you've got the times backwards. Dougweller (talk) 16:36, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for taking the time to peer review Circus this week. I will be sure to incorporate those suggestions into the article! Regards, 68DANNY2 (talk) 21:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Halo 4 Specializations

I noticed that you are a regular contributor to Halo 4 and would appreciate any feedback you might have on a recent discussion. Thanks! --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 January 2013

Hammersmith & City line

Hi David Fuchs, you kindly said you would peer review Hammersmith & City line at Wikipedia:Peer review/Hammersmith & City line/archive1, and said to ping you here if you hadn't posted anything in two days. Thanks Edgepedia (talk) 12:32, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Question about personal attacks

Hey David, I discovered on the Dota 2 talk page that there is an entire section, (with my name constituting the header), where an anonymous editor has a tirade against me, claiming that I have a feverish agenda and that I need to be dealt with, in whatever the hell terms that means. He's received some backlash from several editors and more importantly, he received a one hell of a backlash from me when I found out nearly two weeks later. I have an issue with the fact that there is a section deriding my good name on Wikipedia. Since it is nothing more than an ignorant personal attack, would it be constitutional for said section to be removed/renamed, since it has no merit? DarthBotto talk•cont 06:13, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

I checked this address' contributions and apparently, they've lobbed several personal attacks at others as well. DarthBotto talk•cont 10:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Well, the user was stating that I was going against some consensus and that he was hoping some action would be taken against me. He implied that I am wholeheartedly bent on forcing a term on others, when on the contrary, I have repeatedly stated my disdain for the term "MOBA", but feel obligated to maintain continuity and consensus of the current state of culture by implementing it on all pages that refer to this specific genre. I don't feel like having a section called "DarthBotto", which complains about my character, is very appropriate. But, if it's just me being over-sensitive, I'll live if nothing's done about it. DarthBotto talk•cont 01:15, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
You're probably right. Just that I'm not used to seeing an entire section of a talk page for a page I created with my name stamped on it. Thank you for giving me your input- I'll follow it. DarthBotto talk•cont 02:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Repeat vandalism

Hi David. I'm been subject to repeat vandalism by IP Address 24.228.37.107 and user KLetters at: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Ari_Teman

Latest Example: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Ari_Teman&diff=prev&oldid=535248797 replacing comedian with "narcissist" Previous example is replacing entire contents of the article.

Can you release the IP address of KLetters (we know the identity of the individual already and now will ascertain if they or an associate are repeat offenders with this recent attack).

Thank you, Ari

AriTeman (talk) 03:19, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 January 2013

Gravity Bone FAC

Hey! I have nominated Gravity Bone for FA and I'd like to know if you would be able to review it. Thanks! — ΛΧΣ21 18:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Halo Topic coming soon

Getting close to the end of the grace period. How's the progress coming along? GamerPro64 16:30, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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Star Trek edits

Well that was mean - these are chances for people to see these films on the big screen, what a waste of my time! Minor events - well whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark Egerton (talk • contribs) 17:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter - February 2013

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The Signpost: 18 February 2013

DC happy hour on Thursday, February 28!

Please join Wikimedia DC for Happy Hour at the Capitol City Brewery at Metro Center on Thursday, February 28 at 6 p.m. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 34. Hope to see you there! Harej (talk) 02:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article review/Jurassic Park (film)/archive1

The FAR is relisted, so join in discussion. Meanwhile, do not hesitate to fix the article Jurassic Park. --George Ho (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Add Polygon to VGReviews

Hi, you recently participated in this discussion about additions to the VGReviews template. Do you mind clarifying your opinion on the inclusion of Polygon (website) in the template? Polygon has been around for over a year now; they were provisionally called "Vox Games" when they were still a subsection of parent website The Verge (owned by Vox Media). Polygon was only separated into its own website four months ago but the editorial staff has been together for much longer, hence the confusion in the discussion about its "established-ness". Axem Titanium (talk) 05:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 February 2013

Invitation to a discussion: Wikipedia and legislative data

Hi David Fuchs, since you are interested in meetups in DC, I'd like to invite you to attend the Cato Institute's "Wikipedia and Legislative Data" events on March 14. (There's also an all day workshop on March 15; let me know if you are interested, we may be able to add more people.)

There will be an introduction to Wikipedia and open edit-a-thon in the afternoon, and a Sunshine Week Reception in the evening. I hope you can make it!

Hope to see you there! -Pete (talk) 19:04, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, March 9!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Guapo's at Tenleytown-AU on Saturday, March 9 at 5 PM All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 35. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 13:59, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Request

A small request - as drafting arb on the sexology case you said on the evidence talkpage you would be blanking the relevant pages etc, as well as blanking/deleting the 'evidence' pages that Jokestress is linking to in her user section. Can I make a request that its more than blanked/deleted? Ideally put beyond her ability to view it (oversight/revdel whatever). Explanation: I noticed that one of the evidence sections quoted me at an ANI posting, which in restrospect I wish I hadnt made. Not because I dont agree with what I said, but because at that point I didnt have the full picture of her off-wiki actions towards people she considers opponents. I would rather not ask the user who quoted me to remove the link to my comments as I feel it probably does display exactly what they are talking about, but I would also rather not have that sort of thing hanging around after the case, even in blanked form, for someone willing to do/take that sort of extreme action. Regards. Only in death does duty end (talk) 12:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

On a related note, I'd like to draw your attention to my question here. Does Jokestress have special dispensation from the committee to submit evidence via subpages, or have the clerks simply overlooked the problem? Skinwalker (talk) 18:21, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
It was brought up briefly on the list but we seem to have dropped the ball on that with all the other nonsense that's going on. I'll bring it up again. NW (Talk) 04:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I'd like to have guidance before evidence closes. My first request was a month ago. My second request suggested maybe I could mark those in pink or something to indicate they are optional details. Much of that supplemental info was prompted by earlier discussions where editors were requesting evidence of patterns regarding conduct. The charts and table really just require a glance to see what the pattern is. It's also tough because I am reporting on five people, and they are reporting on one. Jokestress (talk) 04:55, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
That's usually a common complaint with cases like these. I can only say that you should always put your "best" evidence on the evidence page itself. Keeping it short and letting the diffs do the explaining where possible always saves space. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 12:54, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Unblock

David--will you please unblock MZMcBride? I don't understand the block in the first place: if providing the link to that website which shall not be named was the wrong thing to do symbolically, because every fool knows how to add ".com" to a string of letters, then a block could have been symbolic as well. MZMcBride is not a troll, as you well know. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:41, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI, MZMcBride did more than just name the "website which shall not be named" - in a now oversighted edit, he linked to a specific article. --B (talk) 16:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Still--"trolling"? Extend a little good faith and suppose they learned their lesson. I wish I were on oversighter so I could see if we weren't overdoing it. I suppose it's a good thing I'm not an oversighter. Drmies (talk) 16:56, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Nevermind: this coincided with David's response on my talk page. Drmies (talk) 16:57, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

MZMMcBride

Hi David. Would you mind explaining your block on the editor's talk page? Though not explicitly required, it is generally a good idea to clearly explain why a block is being made (see WP:EXPLAINBLOCK). Otherwise, an admin reviewing an unblock notice would be unable to review the unblock request adequately. Thanks. --regentspark (comment) 17:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

NYU-Poly

Hi, I just saw that an editor removed a huge chunk of well-sourced materials from List of NYU Polytechnic Institute people: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=List_of_NYU_Polytechnic_Institute_people&diff=542481996&oldid=542479531

Thanks,--Celtsmote (talk) 01:26, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 March 2013

ARCBB request

thanks for your comment, that's what Dave S convinced me of as well. If in your read you missed my proposal for how to PREVENT this problem in the future (search for bold text "proposal"), please take another look. I don't know how to push the idea, but IPCC AR5 is due out next year. We should fix this now before the real fun starts up again. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 01:09, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 March 2013

Secret Informers

Wikipedia should not be a Gestapo type state [1]. It should not operate on the word of secret informers and in-camera trials. Who was the informer on User:George Ponderevo or was s/he invented by the Arbcom) and please supply diffs for the supposed serious crimes. Then please tell the project how each Arb voted - or are the Arbs ashamed of their actions?  Giano  13:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

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Good luck on your Halo nom! Just wanted to give you the one week bump you requested. Whenever is good for you, let me know. :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:52, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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Talkback

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The Signpost: 18 March 2013

Motion to close RFC/U

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Sexology Arbitration, WP:OWN, Stealth-co-option - and Out of My Depth!

Hello,

Please respond here, because more people will read it and more people should, than on my talk page.

I am now officially way out of my Wikipedia depth! I make a very straightforward edit on hebephilia as an occasional, but - on those occasions, serious and diligent - Wikipedia editor, and find myself launched into the maelstrom of a full-blown ongoing arbitration, itself at the centre of a medical firestorm.

Help!

In my case, I wanted to make it clearer - linking in through a weirdly unclear reference to 'hebephilia' on the Mystic River (film page - "what is that I thought?" - that hebephilia is, by the previous edits own definition chain (hebephilia > chronophilia > paraphilia), a sexual perversion. That's what a paraphilia is, it's what the word means.

And then I get into an edit reversion war with Flyer22, ignores my comments on talk page clarify why I am making them, and then - when they comment there - wind up into a tirade. And then arrives on the scene another of the tag team of editors. Etc.

This is totally unacceptable and dangerous. What I have seen is - I just worked out what it is - extreme WP:OWN behaviour - claiming I know nothing about Wikipedia, due to trivial edit anomalies, or inability to work the reporting systems to full effect etc, and wildly aggressive claims of soapboxing and original research.

I tried to add my voice to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Sexology, but was warned off it aggresively by Flyer22, to explain this, and now - what do I do?

Can you tell me how I CAN add my experience - and now analytical opinion to that arbitration? I am new to this entirely but it's clear this is not reasonable editing.

Also, it's clear that there is denormativising, normalising, edit tag team around Flyer22 that is WP:OWNing this and related youth-sexualisation articles, claiming that the literatures suggests these are mere medical issues, not straightforward perversions.

The key point is that, by stealth and obfuscation and aggressive article-territorialisation, the sexual status of underage kids is being made a medical nicety, rather than something more morally and socially critical than that. WP:NPOV is NOT an issue of, he-says she-says, or a blaze of peripheral 'sources' (as per hebephilia article), it's a reflection of the status quo, whether you like that or not. I have no strong view on what is good or bad sexualisation, but I do know that aggressively refusing to call hebephilia a perversion is factually wrong, biased, and extremely dangerous for the Wikipedia project's trustworthiness as an unbiased source.

Can you help me now contribute to that arbitration - since I have been dragged in - and comment on this co-opting of these pages?

Thanks.

jmanooch 04:05, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Dragon Warrior III Good Article nomination

Hey, I read that you nominated to review the Dragon Warrior III for a good article? It seems it's been a few weeks since you left the message, and you asked for someone to remind you if you forgot, so I thought I would. :) Rhain1999 (talk) 03:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Sexology case

Hi. In this edit in which you offered the alternate Discretionary Sanctions statement, did you intend to also remove the second sentence of the original statement, the one that was under discussion? Doing so made the two alternates exactly the same. I assume that it was a slip on your part, but I didn't want to revert you in case you had something else in mind. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:25, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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Dragon Warrior

It is much better now, let me know what you think! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:54, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to remind you to swing by when you get the chance. :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 02:26, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good! Let me know what else you need to be able to pass it :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, April 13!

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Re:Awesome work

Thanks for your kind words. I've still got plenty to go (I haven't even finished a single season of any one show yet!). I'm going to hit some problems at some point as there hasn't been any production information published for the final two seasons of Voyager and the first season of Enterprise outside of the occasional interview. But I've got loads to do before I run out of other episodes, not to mention actors etc. Heck, one of the Next Generation executive producers doesn't even have a wikipage yet!

I might break from a season by season process after I finish off the first season of TNG and do a few of the stand out episodes (although I intend to leave Best of Both Worlds and the Inner Light like carrots for me to do after I do something dreadful... like Shades of Grey or something ;) ). Miyagawa (talk) 19:15, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

From what I've read, for some unknown reason the Voyager companion doesn't include any production information at all unlike the DS9 and TNG ones. Theres a couple of good unofficial Voyager guides but I think the Altman/Gross Captain's Logs Supplemental only covers the first three seasons and David McIntee's Delta Quadrant covers the first five seasons. I haven't got my hands on either of those, but they sell for only a couple of quid on eBay and are quite easy to find. I've managed to get ahold of the reference book for Star Trek: Phase II, so I'd like to take a look at that. Partially wondering if the pilot might warrant an individual article, but I think that'll depend on the size that the main Phase II article gets to - although I may pilfer some of your referencing from Star Trek: The Motion Picture on Phase II! Miyagawa (talk) 20:45, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I Forgot to say, if you ever need anything looked up in any of the sources I normally use, just ask. I've also (just this morning) managed to get my hands on a copy of the elusive DS9 Companion off of eBay. It looks a bit well used, but frankly it's the insides that count. :) Miyagawa (talk) 08:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

DC meetups on April 19 and 20

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We look forward to seeing you at one or both of these events! Kirill [talk] 20:09, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 April 2013

Star Trek

List of minor recurring characters in Star Trek: The Next Generation is completely awash in fancruft, and almost totally lacking in sources. I see no real out-of-universe notability, but somehow everyone else thinks it's salvageable. Do you wanna take a stab at fixing it up, or are you all just going to let it rot forever and hope it fixes itself? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 08:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Although I consider myself quite patient...

..I think you are displaying the manner of someone who is acting as if you WP:OWN Khan Noonien Singh.You are an editor of some experience, and really should know better. In addition, your reversion of my edit is pure WP:LAWYER and a clear WP:GAME of the Wikipedia rules. To say that Norther India is different from North India is just plain silly. In anycase. I don't wish to labour on the point or get in a WP:CONFLICT. Please take time to review your actions. Thanks SH 16:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Your lack of response

... to this is most unfortunate. Jokestress (talk) 20:48, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Personal attacks on arbcom pages.

I (and many others) know that arbcom cases traditionally (for better or worse) allow more 'robust' discussion than would be allowed elsewhere, but personal attacks such as this (and its immediate preceding comment) are getting a bit much. At this point the proposed decision talk page is just acting as an attack page against certain editors. (Who are far more patient than myself, in that they are quite sensibly not rising to it) There are other examples (see directly above), but some editors seem to have forgotton that even on arbcom pages, serious accusations need evidence to justify them or they need to be withdrawn. I dont expect any changes this late in a case, but I am surprised Sceptre is being allowed to get away with his comments without at least a warning. Only in death does duty end (talk) 08:20, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

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WBB ban appeal discussion at BASC

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Halo CEA

You didn't appreciate my promotional pizza? I thought it was quite the find. czar · · 00:47, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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Input request

Hello David Fuchs,

I am requesting input from all participants in the discussion from the recent Signpost article on sexism in Wikipedia for a proposal at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/National teams#Proposed change: consistency in article title gendering. Thank you in advance for any contributions to the discussion. Dkreisst (talk) 21:14, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Link's Awakening TFA

As the promoter, I thought you may be interested in bringing The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening to WP:TFA. June 6th will be its 20th anniversary, so even with the −2 from the recent FFXI TFA, it'll be at two points. Let me know what you think. czar · · 02:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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DC WikiSalon on May 24

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We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 18:24, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

You're Doing It Again

There is no WP:Undue in the lead at Khan Noonien Singh. Why do you keep reverting this? It's clearly stated in the description later that he's Northern Indian, not Indian per se. I'm adding a discuss tag because I think your'e WP:LAWYER the situation here. Thanks SH 15:38, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Please add your comments here. Thanks SH 15:49, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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I was just wondering....

I just noticed your opening comments at DRN. As you may (or may not) have noticed, I've opened a discussion also, but I'm having problems with editors at Talk:Terra Nova (TV series) who are (amongst other things) refusing to make opening comments at DRN, aggressively arguing that they can't because the discussion hasn't been accepted.[2] I was just wondering if you would you consider popping in to let them know that it is OK add opening comment? They won't listen to me.[3] --AussieLegend (✉) 21:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. --AussieLegend (✉) 21:12, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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