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Speedy deletion nomination of Elaquent

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Hello DandYansUrbAdventure,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Elaquent for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Wikicology (talk) 11:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

July 2014

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Information icon Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. - MrX 01:58, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page URBNET Records has been reverted.
Your edit here to URBNET Records was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (http://facebook.com/urbnet) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia.
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July 2014

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July 2014

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Information icon Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to URBNET Records, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 04:20, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wish you guys would stop reverting my July updates back to the old, VANDALISED version of this page. Maybe you should read the page before you make my life difficult with these constant reversions.

Your username

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Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created URBNET Records, and I noticed that your username, "DandYansUrbAdventure", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Trammel Museum of Art". However, you are invited to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you personally, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", and "WidgetFan87". Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people, and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, or website, regardless of your username. Moreover, I recommend that you read our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please create a new account or request a username change that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 04:21, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning. You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to URBNET Records. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 04:28, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


HOW DO I EMAIL YOU GUYS??? You have-been reverting my updated page to an old vandalised version with no time for appeal. I’m new to wikipedia and I must say that your talk feature eludes me. Allot of you have unprofessional looking homepages with no easy way to access any sort of email feature. I have no idea how to reach you, so we can discuss your downright ridiculous antics. In a sane world, we have easy access to communication and time to appeal our case. If I sound frustrated that's because I am. I’ve been dealing with this issue for nearly a week and I’m left grinding my teeth at the way your tend to these affairs.

If you wish to appeal your block, use the template, {{unblock|''your reason here"}} ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 05:10, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

You keep reverting the URBNET page to an OLD, VANDALISED version. My updates were correct and reasonable. There is only one external link on the entire page (which has been corrected from one that goes to some garbage/spam site); the update reflects the correct artist roster as well. I would like the ability to upload the record label logo as well, and I would like the harassment from your moderators to end. You guys have me at the brink of sanity at this point!! I rather see the URBNET Records page deleted in its entirety rather than have you guys do such a shit-job reverting it back to old, vandalized version.

Decline reason:

I'm declining the request for now. Let talk thru this thing here or via email. Once the article gets corrected to everybody's satisfaction, then an unblock request would probably be granted. Bgwhite (talk) 05:26, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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Do not revert, talk instead

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Talk. Do not revert. All we see is someone vandalizing the article, repeatedly. We haven't a clue what you are trying to do because you aren't saying anything. I've already blocked you or your cohort once already. Any other changes to the article will result in another block.

You only option right now is to talk and show references. If you feel a vandal got to it, with the homepage changed this looks likely, please tell use why/how/where. Use references please. Bgwhite (talk) 04:47, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Materialscientist already blocked him for block evasion. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 04:52, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Email a user

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To email either Solarra or me, click on our link in this sentence. On the left hand sidebar, there is an option called, "Email this user". I do believe some vandalism has gone on. However, I'm not understanding why the removal of the catalog. You can also leave a message here. Bgwhite (talk) 05:20, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid the only vandalism has-been on your part, and I must say that you monopolized far too much of my patience and time. Seriously speaking, I've been at this with you guys for about a week. One measly page shouldn't take a week to resolve. Would you agree?
Incidentally, the catalogue was removed because it was woefully outdated and it took -p too much space on the page. I may add it in the future when I'm give access to an updated version; however, at the rate I'm going with you guys, I rather limit any and all future interactions with this site from an update standpoint.
As I said before, if you intend to keep playing this game with me, and disallow my ability to represent urbnet factually than I request you delete this page in its entirety. I don't deserve this drama.
  • Please sign your posts with four tildas (~~~~).
  • One does not go into another person's house and starts tearing down walls. When asked to stop, one does not continue. Over 30 messages have been left on your talk pages. You did not leave one message. Warnings were left on your talk pages. You did not heed one. Your failure to tell us anything is the cause of all this mess. If you do not communicate, we cannot help you.
  • Vandalism is the #1 problem on Wikipedia. Without you saying a peep, we have to assume the page is being vandalised.
  • If a catalogue is outdated, one updates it or improves on it, not removes it.
  • You do not own this page. You cannot remove the page. Urbnet does not own this page. They cannot remove it.
  • Again, "You only option right now is to talk and show references." Bgwhite (talk) 06:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]



Just to add onto BGwhite's comments, I reverted your first edit in good faith, I understood you were trying to improve the article and tried to point out how to do it correctly. The same edit was made again, and again an attempt at communication was made. At this point, to anyone it appears as vandalism and an attempt to disrupt the project which is when further steps were taken.
I looked through the edit history, and I cannot find the vandalism of the page you speak of, I do see the homepage being changed, but I went and verified the new one as accurate. Please elaborate as to what vandalism you were reverting exactly :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 06:28, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]



(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 06:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC)) I appreciate that, but that artist roster is still woely out of date. Some of these artists were never part of the urbnet brand (hence my vandalism claims). Some of these artists are no longer part of the label. I simply wanted the list updated (in a 4 column format). The myspace link has no business on this page since it is now defunct. I much rather see the urbnet.bandcamp.com link in it's place since it best reflects our catalogue.[reply]



(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 06:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)). I'm being blocked from emailing you ('action throttled' as per some anti-spam measure). With regards to my catalogue updates; you don't own that data either, so if I choose to remove it than it's my right; afterall, I contributed to making those titles happen; certainly not Wikipedia.[reply]

Lastly, since I cannot email you, and since you already made changes to the company url and catalogue than you might as well finish the job, and submit the correct (non-vandalized) artist roster I have-been desperately trying to add the better part of the week. Also, the myspace page is defunct. Heck, I'd love to make these changes myself, but you don't seem to trust me.


I removed the MySpace link, as it appears to be spam unrelated to the subject, the catalog was also removed as it was unsourced and promotional. The article itself needs alot of work still, but honestly I don't know enough about the subject to know where to source it to improve it. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 06:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]



(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 06:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)) The roster is still in need of updating. I fail to see the issue here; most especially since it contains no external links. I am posting it below.[reply]

Artists

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Adding Artists

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Can you source any of the above individuals being on the label? What is important on Wikipedia, is most paramount what can be verified and sourced ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 06:46, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 06:52, 8 July 2014 (UTC)) Firstly, I can't source some of the ones on the version you keep reverting because they never existed on the label. Secondly many of the artists on this list correlate with the current list along with their own wiki pages.... pages I had no hand in creating I might add. Please give me a break here. This is getting quite ridiculous and I submit if the world operated in any way like Wikipedia than civilization would-have crumbled centuries ago.[reply]


(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 07:11, 8 July 2014 (UTC)) on second thought, all the artists can easily be sourced through external links to urbnet.com/artists[reply]


(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 07:19, 8 July 2014 (UTC)) I see you added some of the artists while deleting many of the other key artists (who do not have their wiki page). Funny story here, I tried to create simple wiki pages for some of those artists, but you guys made my life a living hell and deleted those entries despite my best attempt for appeal. I refuse to add anymore entries to wiki; my health is more important. This list, as is, is unacceptable. As a mentioned above, all the artists can easily be sourced through external links to urbnet.com/artists . Please revert the list to the one I gave you.[reply]


(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 06:59, 8 July 2014 (UTC)) I should add, that this mess started because I'm new to Wikipedia, and your communication systems seems downright nonsensical to me. I didn't know how to reach you, so I simply gave up trying and continually updated the page to the correct new version every time you reverted it.[reply]


That is part of the reason you were blocked reverting whilst ignoring attempts at communication with other editors. I went ahead and incorporated the above artists that already have Wikipedia articles, as the others do not, adding them seems promotional. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 07:11, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 07:14, 8 July 2014 (UTC)) Yes, well, your communications system is far from intuitive for the layman. Please add the correct artist roster on my behalf.[reply]


Already done. One more note, generally when signing it is done at the end of a comment like I and others on this page have done. This is a good place to start as to how communication works on Wikipedia, it really is quite intuitive as I was very much a layman when I started :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 07:20, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]



That artist roster listing is unacceptable. Every artist on my list is verifiable via urbnet.com/artists, and let's agree to disagree that this communication system is intuitive. (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 07:23, 8 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]



The artist roster is also verifiable via urbnet.bandcamp.com, so again, I expect to see this entry in this format. No more games please

Being a current artist and being notable are two separate things. Generally promotional content, in this case the listing, is not added unless all of the listed bands are notifiable in their own right. Until this point I have been happy to help you learn and experience Wikipedia, even with abusing multiple accounts, but you do not own the article, it should be written within policies and guidelines linked to you above. Neither of the sources you give is a reliable source. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 07:54, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]



So let me get this straight, first you admitted to knowing very little about my field of work, and now you're preaching its inner workings to me? Give me your email address, I will inundate your folder with a gigabyte of press clippings. Would you like their privileged sales history and royalty statements, their blood type and their mother's phone number as well? Would that suffice to get one insignificant page up properly? Here is the artist listing with external links to each; look it up yourself, follow their twitter accounts (which I do not control), and scour them for direct correlations to URBNET. You were all too happy reverting my page to an artist list that was far less verifiable, and allowing that to sit on my page! You are being a hypocrite!!

(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 08:24, 8 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]



If I could be perfectly honest, I don't think you were very helpful. I wasted an entire night communicating a very simple request, and my reward was a whole heap of grief on your part. You made me jump through hoops of fire to establish content validity. When submitted, you chose to ignore here said facts. Our bands are notifiable in their own right, but those links contain a commercial component (whether they be press clippings or their twitter account).... because.... wait for it.... bands don't work for free.

Furthermore, to clarify, I got into heat because I had difficulties emailing the moderators, and I was frustrated with your poor appeal process. I opened a second account because I lost the ability upload a photo to correlate with the record label page. I assumed a second account would alleviate that problem. Clearly it did not, because Wikipedia isn't geared to make any sense for the layman. (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 11:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Artists

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Artists

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(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 07:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


Could you give me the ref where this is found that lists these musicians as being associated with the label. When having lists that contain people or bands, we generally don't include non-notable (aka no article) people. One of the two main exceptions is if a reference is given that show they are notable. For a singer/group/band, having a song/album reach the billboard charts would qualify them as being notable. So, more refs the better. As you started insulting Solorra, I've asked her to step away. There are no excuses for insults. Bgwhite (talk) 22:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Look above this page. I supplied you with an external link to each artist, I supplied you with urbnet.com/artists reference and urbnet.bandcamp.com catalogue reference.... and please spare me the "those are commercial links" excuse; musicians/bands work for money; hardly a single external reference will be found where they don't actively promote and or mention their product. The bandcamp pages have press clippings, the artist pages have twitter accounts that collaborate everything I've been saying all along (reposted earshot charts, etc...). Do you honestly think I would put none-urbnet artists on an urbnet bandcamp page to pull the wool over your eyes?
Secondly, the original listing on this wiki page had none of those references I just provided you, but you were all too happy to let that stand for years. You actively fought my corrections reverting it back to that list as well. You keep trying to make out as the bad guy when I've been more than accommodating, and I make no apologies for my attitude after what you guys put me through,.(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 01:46, 9 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]
Now I'm done. Not once in over 30 times did you try to reach out. Now all you can do is insult. You have been the bad guy. Goodbye. Bgwhite (talk) 05:04, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
First you weren't happy because there was a lack of communication between us (as I explained already several times - I find the wiki communication system counter intuitive). Now you're not happy when we are communicating. Put yourself in my shoes for a second. I've been at this for a week. My request was simple, my page is rather insignificant. Everytime I follow your request to the best of my abilities, you ask for something else. Then --when we get close to supplying you with content -- you complain and give up!!. (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 05:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]
You are insulting and complaining. Try being nice instead of complaining every paragraph. Stop saying everything is our fault when you share the blame. To summarize what has been said:
  1. The list of records the company put out, which is out of date, which you wanted removed, will not go up till it is updated and referenced better.
  2. I will update the list of singers/bands/groups that you have been working on. Per policy, only people that are notable can be added. The links to your website do not qualify.
Now IF you want my help. 1) No more talking about what has gone on in the past and no more insults. 2) There are things you will not like 3) Lets try and get the groups to qualify on being notable. If they are notable, I can show you how to create articles for them. WP:MUSICBIO is the policy on music notability. Bgwhite (talk) 05:26, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Alright than, please explain why you're asking for all these references now while you let the old, out-dated list sit on Wikipedia for so long? Were you this diligent with the vandals, or the original poster (who was not me btw)? Honestly, I see a double-standard here I see different rules for different people (lenient rules for the vandals, tough rules for me). That's why I'm this bitter and upset.

All I wanted was to get this list up in its entirety, then follow-up with Wikipedia entries for the artists who do not have a page yet (slowly - over time). (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 05:37, 9 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Fair enough question. There are over 3 million articles on Wikipedia. I can't remember the number, but there are around 4,000 active editors... those who do more than 100 edits a month. So, odds are that nobody is looking at this page or updating any of the bad pages. People do different things around here. There are programs that alert vandalism might have happened and people fight the vandalism. Others look at the several hundred new pages created a day. I look for syntax error people make. URBNET Records‎ had syntax problems, which is why I'm here. With the vast amount of material removed you removed, people were alerted vandalism might have happened, which is why I think other people arrived here. So, by bad/good luck, people noticed the page. There are not different rules for different people. Vandals have their edits removed, which is what people thought you were, thus reverting your edits. I noticed the links to URBNET Records‎ was vandalism and you were trying to correct that, which led me to reach out more. While we are focused on the page, we try to observe the rules, which is why I'm insisting on following them. Bgwhite (talk) 06:02, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]



HERE ARE THOSE NOTABLE LINKS YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT... A FRACTION TO BE SURE DO YOU STILL THINK I'VE BEEN LYING TO YOU ALL THIS TIME?

Artists

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  • A.M. Architect

http://earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=132999&dWeekOfID=2013-02-26



  • Canadian Winter
http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=144601&dWeekOfID=2014-05-06



  • Cherina & Davina

interview http://kamp.arizona.edu/node/3758 http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/Cherina-and-Davina http://www.euphonicsound.com/urbnet-artists-cherina-and-davina


  • Certified Series

http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2012_07_urbnetcertified3.html http://www.herohill.com/2012/05/urbnet-certified-vol-2.htm http://www.herohill.com/2012/02/urbnet-certified-volume-1.htm


  • Circle Research

http://exclaim.ca/Reviews/HipHop/Circle_Research-Gardiner_Express


  • DJ Cosm

http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2011_04_timeandspace.html



  • Def3

http://www.prairiedogmag.com/2014-06-26/def-3s-rap-lab/ http://www.mixtapewall.com/2014/06/def3-wildlif3/ http://ugsmag.com/2014/06/def3-babyface-prod-by-factor/ http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/def-3



  • Don Cash

http://anupamistry.com/anupa-m/reviews-don-cash-freshy-fresh http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2010_10_donunbreakable.html http://www.hiphopcanada.com/2010/02/don-cash-inks-deal-with-urbnet-records/


  • Elaquent

http://noisey.vice.com/en_ca/blog/elaquent-interview-guelph-producer http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=144701&dWeekOfID=2014-05-06


  • Friday AKA Ricky Dred

http://www.canadiandope.com/friday-aka-ricky-dred-get-right-music-video/



  • ILL Tone

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2013/03/29/ill-tone-bringin-the-hope-back-urbnet/ http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=147712&dWeekOfID=2014-05-13


  • John Smith

http://exclaim.ca/Reviews/HipHop/john_smith-ol_man_winter http://ugsmag.com/2012/07/john-smith-thirstday/



  • Len Bowen

http://uniter.ca/view/len-bowen


  • LAL

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/arts-entertainment/album-review-lal-lal-193298.html http://extramusicnew.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/lal-lal-urbnet/


  • Lozen

http://earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=131688&dWeekOfID=2013-02-26


  • Mathematik

http://www.platform8470.com/reviews/review.php?revId=240


http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2011_05_runawayjones.html http://soulculture.com/reviews/miles-jones-runaway-jones-album-review/ http://indies.ca/nominees_winners/2010-nomineeswinners/



  • Mr.Brady

http://everydejavu.com/2014/03/20/mr-brady-timing-is-everything/ http://asweproceedsd.com/2014/03/18/mr-brady-timing-is-everything-album-stream/ http://www.kevinnottingham.com/2014/03/18/mr-brady-timing-is-everything-album-stream/ http://verbalspacey.com/2014/04/03/mr-brady-where-will-i-go-video/



  • OPOPO

http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=70128&dWeekOfID=2008-06-03



  • Philly Moves

http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/Philly-Moves http://40ozheroes.com/2014/06/21/urbnet-celebrates-15-years-of-independent-canadian-hip-hop/ http://thecomeupshow.com/2013/06/11/event-urbnet-showcase-d-sisive-moka-only-wordburglar-more-june-13th-sneaky-dees-toronto/



  • Politic Live

http://thegatewayonline.ca/article/view/album_review_ryan_ro_at_last_my_dear1


  • Plex

http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2012_07_plexdemons.html



  • Ryan Stinson

http://www.swbooster.com/Living/2012-11-28/article-3130315/Stinson-shows-moodier-side-with-latest-hiphop-EP/1 http://www.herohill.com/2012/11/premiere-ryan-stinson-melt-ft-ghettosocks.htm http://www.therooster.ca/tag/ryan-stinson-futura-deluxe-edition-hip-hop-instrumental-charly-hustle-ghettosocks-virtual-flannel-kay-the-aquanaut-open-mike-eagle-f-virtue-mikedecline-d-sisive-jason-hattie/ http://music.cbc.ca/artists/Ryan-Stinson


  • SATURNS

http://www.blogto.com/music/2012/12/saturns_get_set_to_blow_up_interstellar_space/ http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/saturns http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=130272&dWeekOfID=2013-03-26


  • Swamp Thing

http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2014_02_firedogs.html



  • Rel!g!on

http://www.mvremix.com/urban/interviews/religion.shtml



  • Underground Hip-Hop Series

http://www.herohill.com/2011/11/quick-hitters-urbnet-underground-hip-hop-vol-7.htm http://40ozheroes.com/2014/06/21/urbnet-celebrates-15-years-of-independent-canadian-hip-hop/



(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 13:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


Any updates on this? (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 11:44, 12 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Any updates? (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 21:42, 13 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Shouting and saying I'm accusing you of lying gets you nowhere. Accusations and rude behaviour will get you nowhere. One of the conditions that I would help was "1) No more talking about what has gone on in the past and no more insults" You send me an email that is nothing but what has gone on the past. I'm out and done. Bgwhite (talk) 22:55, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Whose shouting? I worked very hard to provide you with source material to collaborate the artists are in fact represented by urbnet. I did not hear from you in quite some time; hence, my posts. (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 00:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]



So, are we going to resolve this? I need that complete artist list active.(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 13:34, 14 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


Any updates? (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 08:23, 16 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


Any Updates? If you refuse to help than please pass me along to a moderator that will.(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 01:36, 18 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


My updates still require action. I supplied you with collaborating links to the artists that require addition to the URBNET page. Ignoring me won't solve the problem.(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 06:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Go Away

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Stop emailing me. Go away. I said, Shouting and saying I'm accusing you of lying gets you nowhere. Accusations and rude behaviour will get you nowhere. One of the conditions that I would help was "1) No more talking about what has gone on in the past and no more insults" You send me an email that is nothing but what has gone on the past. I'm out and done.

ALL CAPS IS SHOUTING. Solarra already left because of your behaviour. You were blocked because of your behaviour. Calling me vindictive and childish in emails just adds more to your rude behaviour. You brought this about on yourself. The article is currently locked so only admins can edit it. I did not do this. As I have edited the article, I cannot undo it.

WP:RFP is the place to request unlock of the


article.

To request to be unblocked, add {{unblock | reason=your reason here ~~~~}} to the bottom of this page. Bgwhite (talk) 06:56, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


For your information I used all caps to HIGHLIGHT my brief comments within a very large post... you know... the one with the references you requested. (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 07:02, 18 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


... and sorry, but I am not going away. I have a job to do and so do you. I held-up my end of the bargain; now it's you turn... then I will go away.(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]



This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I am the most qualified person to update the URBNET page. Its artist list is woefully incomplete. As per the moderator's request, I submitted third party collaborating links for the missing artists (who currently lack their own wiki page). Unfortunately, he has a problem with my attitude and has decided not to help me... telling me to "go away" rather than help. Perhaps my attitude was unprofessional, but that was a result of an ongoing and rather aggravating wiki process(I'm new to this site) and communications system (I couldn't figure out how to contact the moderators). Having said that, refusal to help me sort the artist list is equally unprofessional. I'm trying my best here, but again, some of Wikipedia's idiosyncrasies have me grinding my teeth in aggravation. All I want is to submit, a complete/ none vandalized artist listing on the urbnet page. DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 8:29 am, Today (UTC+1)

Decline reason:

You keep using the term "vandalism" to refer to edits that you disagree with; please stop doing that - Wikipedia's definition of vandalism is quite precise, and accusing good-faith editors of being vandals is regarded as a personal attack.


I see from your editing history and the messages above that you may have a reasonable case for your changes, but the way in which you have attempted to implement them is so wholly contrary to Wikipedia's process of communal editing that I have doubts you will ever be able to contribute constructively here. In addition, you haven't actually addressed the reason for this block - you are blocked becuase you created this account to evade the block placed on your User:Yandurb account.
If you wish to be unblocked, we will need to see some sort of evidence or guarantee that you will act in accordance with Wikipedia's rules. You will need to convince the reviewing administrator that you will not abuse multiple accounts, and that you will work constructively with other editors to make improvements to the URBNET Records article. To date, I see no evidence of that; in fact your opening sentence - "I am the most qualified person..." - is enough in itself to bring me to the exact oppposite conclusion. Yunshui  10:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]



Alright let's address your concerns here.

1) The way I attempted to implement my changes was unprofessional, but AGAIN,I was making those changes before I knew how to communicate with the moderators - I kept getting emails in my inbox to this talk page, but I had no idea how to respond to you guys. Hence, my intense frustration with the process. Understand, that for a layman, it's impossible to comprehend that you can communicate with moderators/ resolve issues via the edit button within the page.


2) I have in fact addressed the reason for the creation of the second account. I made changes to urbnet, including uploading their logo using my first account. The next day, the logo was gone , I didn't understand why the image was removed, and I wasn't allowed to upload a new one. I still didn't understand why or how to communicate with the moderators, so I created a second account in an attempt to try re-uploading the image once more. Where you guys seem to think I had nefarious plans to vandalize Wikipedia, I can safely say that my actions were of a man bumbling through a very confusing process.


3) Questioning my qualifications is quite hurtful since I co-founded the company 15 years ago. I co-manage it to this very day. I know whose on the roster and I most certainly know who is not. Put yourself in my shoes and imagine the hurtfulness of such comments, and why anyone in my position would react with hostility. You guys don't like being talked-down to (I can appreciate that), but you are talking down to me and asking me to be nice about it. Imagine if you co-founded Wikipedia, and everyday, I kept telling you that you're not qualified to talk about it.


4) You keep saying that I need to prove myself, but that requires either: 1) the moderator helping me with the referenced artist list I supplied him above (13:39, 10 July 2014), OR 2) a moderator unblocking my account so I can attempt the work myself.

Look I'm trying to make amends here, but first, we have stop being rude to each other and one of you has to extend me a small ounce of trust. You are more than welcome to make the artist roster updates yourself with the references I provided you. In fact, I would prefer it because I still feel very uncomfortable using this system. (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 16:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


Any updates on this? (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 09:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


I'm reposting that list in question

Artists

  • A.M. Architect

http://earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=132999&dWeekOfID=2013-02-26



  • Canadian Winter
http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=144601&dWeekOfID=2014-05-06



  • Cherina & Davina

interview http://kamp.arizona.edu/node/3758 http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/Cherina-and-Davina http://www.euphonicsound.com/urbnet-artists-cherina-and-davina


  • Certified Series

http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2012_07_urbnetcertified3.html http://www.herohill.com/2012/05/urbnet-certified-vol-2.htm http://www.herohill.com/2012/02/urbnet-certified-volume-1.htm


  • Circle Research

http://exclaim.ca/Reviews/HipHop/Circle_Research-Gardiner_Express


  • DJ Cosm

http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2011_04_timeandspace.html



  • Def3

http://www.prairiedogmag.com/2014-06-26/def-3s-rap-lab/ http://www.mixtapewall.com/2014/06/def3-wildlif3/ http://ugsmag.com/2014/06/def3-babyface-prod-by-factor/ http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/def-3



  • Don Cash

http://anupamistry.com/anupa-m/reviews-don-cash-freshy-fresh http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2010_10_donunbreakable.html http://www.hiphopcanada.com/2010/02/don-cash-inks-deal-with-urbnet-records/


  • Elaquent

http://noisey.vice.com/en_ca/blog/elaquent-interview-guelph-producer http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=144701&dWeekOfID=2014-05-06


  • Friday AKA Ricky Dred

http://www.canadiandope.com/friday-aka-ricky-dred-get-right-music-video/



  • ILL Tone

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2013/03/29/ill-tone-bringin-the-hope-back-urbnet/ http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=147712&dWeekOfID=2014-05-13


  • John Smith

http://exclaim.ca/Reviews/HipHop/john_smith-ol_man_winter http://ugsmag.com/2012/07/john-smith-thirstday/



  • Len Bowen

http://uniter.ca/view/len-bowen


  • LAL

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/arts-entertainment/album-review-lal-lal-193298.html http://extramusicnew.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/lal-lal-urbnet/


  • Lozen

http://earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=131688&dWeekOfID=2013-02-26


  • Mathematik

http://www.platform8470.com/reviews/review.php?revId=240


http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2011_05_runawayjones.html http://soulculture.com/reviews/miles-jones-runaway-jones-album-review/ http://indies.ca/nominees_winners/2010-nomineeswinners/



  • Mr.Brady

http://everydejavu.com/2014/03/20/mr-brady-timing-is-everything/ http://asweproceedsd.com/2014/03/18/mr-brady-timing-is-everything-album-stream/ http://www.kevinnottingham.com/2014/03/18/mr-brady-timing-is-everything-album-stream/ http://verbalspacey.com/2014/04/03/mr-brady-where-will-i-go-video/



  • OPOPO

http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=70128&dWeekOfID=2008-06-03



  • Philly Moves

http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/Philly-Moves http://40ozheroes.com/2014/06/21/urbnet-celebrates-15-years-of-independent-canadian-hip-hop/ http://thecomeupshow.com/2013/06/11/event-urbnet-showcase-d-sisive-moka-only-wordburglar-more-june-13th-sneaky-dees-toronto/



  • Politic Live

http://thegatewayonline.ca/article/view/album_review_ryan_ro_at_last_my_dear1


  • Plex

http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2012_07_plexdemons.html



  • Ryan Stinson

http://www.swbooster.com/Living/2012-11-28/article-3130315/Stinson-shows-moodier-side-with-latest-hiphop-EP/1 http://www.herohill.com/2012/11/premiere-ryan-stinson-melt-ft-ghettosocks.htm http://www.therooster.ca/tag/ryan-stinson-futura-deluxe-edition-hip-hop-instrumental-charly-hustle-ghettosocks-virtual-flannel-kay-the-aquanaut-open-mike-eagle-f-virtue-mikedecline-d-sisive-jason-hattie/ http://music.cbc.ca/artists/Ryan-Stinson


  • SATURNS

http://www.blogto.com/music/2012/12/saturns_get_set_to_blow_up_interstellar_space/ http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/saturns http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/chartpos.cfm?checkList=130272&dWeekOfID=2013-03-26


  • Swamp Thing

http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2014_02_firedogs.html



  • Rel!g!on

http://www.mvremix.com/urban/interviews/religion.shtml



  • Underground Hip-Hop Series

http://www.herohill.com/2011/11/quick-hitters-urbnet-underground-hip-hop-vol-7.htm http://40ozheroes.com/2014/06/21/urbnet-celebrates-15-years-of-independent-canadian-hip-hop/



(DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 10:13, 25 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]


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I still require a reply. I supplied the necessary references to get the proper artist roster posted. (DandYansUrbAdventure (talk) 10:01, 25 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]