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Hello world

This is just a quick post to create the page. tedder (talk) 16:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for archiving the page! Cunard (talk) 20:13, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

You should try an archivebot like Werdnabot; it's really nice. :-) —Ed (talk • contribs) 17:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, but I prefer the advantages of move-archiving my talk page. Move-archiving the page also resets the history of the page, giving me the feeling of starting out fresh. Best, Cunard (talk) 21:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Lucia Newman

On October 17, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lucia Newman, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 08:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC) 09:42, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Jonathan Gleich (2nd nomination)

Hi! As someone who contributed to Articles for deletion/Jonathan Gleich and/or the deletion review of that AFD, I thought you might be interested in the discussion at Articles for deletion/Jonathan Gleich (2nd nomination).

Note: this is going out to all registered editors with talk pages who commented on either page, not just to those on the Delete/Endorse or Keep/Overturn side.

Thank you. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 22:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, but the AfD discussion was closed before I was able to participate. Having reviewed the article and the sources, I agree that this individual fails the spirit of Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines, so the article should be deleted. Because the article has been closed as "no consensus", I recommend that you renominate it in a month and notify all the participants of the first AfD, the second AfD, and the DRV on the day that you nominate the article for deletion. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 20:07, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Hungry: A Mother and Daughter Fight Anorexia

I have nominated Hungry: A Mother and Daughter Fight Anorexia, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hungry: A Mother and Daughter Fight Anorexia. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 15:34, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the notification. Cunard (talk) 21:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Human disguise

Re new content - I failed to spot it. I saw a slight expansion of two sentences is all. Still no RS supporting the concept as notable. Verbal chat 22:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I have no comment about the new content or lack of reliable sources, but speedy deletion does not apply. A DRV concluded that enough change had occurred to warrant opening a new AfD; therefore speedy deletion is inappropriate. Cunard (talk) 22:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for THIS

It was becoming a bit tiresome. I wil now be removing the entire discussion. Appreciate the good looking-out. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 08:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

My pleasure! I hate when fellow editors are harassed by annoying trolls. That user is probably a sock of somebody, but I don't know who. Cunard (talk) 08:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for I Wear Your Shirt

On November 11, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article I Wear Your Shirt, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 23:15, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Shoe City

I sent it to AfD--your search was not specific to this company. DGG ( talk ) 01:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

True, but I do not see an AfD tag on the article. I see a speedy tag, which has been re-added by Alan Liefting (talk · contribs). There are some sources here, but they probably aren't of the depth that will allow Shoe City to pass an AfD. I will not object if you wish to speedy the article. Cunard (talk) 05:03, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Current status is that Liefting seems to have sent to to AfD, where I've commented at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shoe City DGG ( talk ) 19:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I've commented at the AfD. Cunard (talk) 21:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Duck Island, garden feature

I saw the close, and left a comment at User talk:Mackensen. DGG ( talk ) 19:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your accurate assessment of the situation. I've replied there. Cunard (talk) 21:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamada Gaku

Thank you for fixing the closure. As you probably saw in the history, I closed it when I was logged out, and so it was oversighted. When I "redid" it to attribute it to my account, I forgot that there would be no sig, and didn't notice that in the "preview"!

It's only a little thing, not likely to happen again - but it was good of you to fix it.

Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I saw the malformed AfD close at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old/Open AfDs. Remember to put the "Afd top" template above the header, instead of below it. Best, Cunard (talk) 06:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy declined...

...for good reason--thanks for setting me straight. I should have looked just a little harder. Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 18:12, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

No worries. I know quite a bit about the nuances of speedy deletion because I spend an inordinate amount of my time on Wikipedia patrolling CAT:CSD. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 18:19, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick New

While I have not (yet) gone through the article to do any tweaks or sourcing, I use a slightly different search parameter than you [1] and found the he seems to have coverage for his stage work.... and another is adding some to the article even as I write this. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

The search returns many passing mentions, such as trivial coverage in character lists. Can you point out two sources that provide nontrivial coverage about Patrick New? Cunard (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Copyvio de-tagging

Re. your de-tagging of my db-copyvio mark at Phiale of Megara ([2]): It seems I wasn't quite clear enough. Of course, I know the person who wrote the article was the same person who previously posted the text on the other talk page [3]. The point is, he posted that talk page passage as a literal quote from an academic source. On the talk page it was marked as such, in the article it wasn't; independently of whether it was marked, the article consisted almost in its entirety of literally copied copyrighted text. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I missed the "By Prof. James O’Neil, Sydney" at the bottom of the talk page. My apologies for that.

However, it seems that only a small portion of the article was copied from James O'Neil. I have removed that copyright violation from Phiale of Megara. Is the rest of the article clean of copyrighted content? Cunard (talk) 08:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

The largest part of the body text, at least from "the name Athanaia is the old poetic form..." to "... another inscription from Macedonia in classical times which is clearly in Doric" is also from the same source. (i.e. either directly from O'Neill, or, more likely, from intermediate copyvio versions out there on the web, e.g. [4]). The same goes for the image, which, if it really was self-made as the uploader claims, would be academically worthless. It is in fact a derived work from the excavation notes seen in the link above. I would have cleaned this up myself, but it seems that without the copyvio material, only a sub-stub would be left. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:00, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the rest of the copyrighted content in the article. The remaining portion is the introduction, which probably isn't copied from a source (from what I can see in the quoted footnote). What remains is a valid stub that has three sources, so I believe this article should be kept. Cunard (talk) 09:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Marcus leach

The issue, as was raised by the editors quoting relevant guidelines, was that the article failed WP:BIO (aka WP:PEOPLE). While the subject was mentioned in a small number of third party publications, most of the publicity related to Leach's membership in a high school debating team, rather than the claims being made regarding him in the article ("a partner at Leach & Associates LC, and manages its subsidiary lobbying group, known as Access Hill. Prior to this appointment, Leach served as a Foreign Expert in the People's Republic of China, under the nomination of the Euroway Centre in Shanghai and certification of the State Administration of Foreign Experts Affairs.") In addition, those third-party sources were themselves not overwhelmingly impressive; The Pitch (newspaper), for example, is a free Kansas City alternative weekly. While it was true that a book about the debating team existed, it was apparently the sole book written by a Kansas City freelance magazine writer, and it was not clear how much of the book was actually about Leach. Jayjg ^(talk) 01:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for providing this insightful closing rationale. Although the "delete" votes' analysis of the sources was fairly weak, I can see why you closed this as delete. Having read your arguments, my opinion about this article has changed; I agree with deleting this marginally-notable BLP that is sourced to underwhelming sources.

Please append this rationale to the AfD so that the anonymous user(s) who participated in this discussion will know why you closed this as "delete". Thanks, Cunard (talk) 08:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Service medals

The service medals (i.e. National Defense Service Medal) you claim are an "assertion of notability" are awarded to all service members. They are awarded merely for showing up. There is nothing notable about them, because everybody gets them, regardless of service. DarkAudit (talk) 03:28, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

You are right that the National Defense Service Medal and the Army Service Ribbon are awarded to everyone, so they do not establish notability. However, an award does credibly assert notability, even though it is very tenuous. I would probably delete Brian Joseph Stone if I were an admin, but I will not reinstate the speedy tag because the speedy has been declined before. Since Skomorokh (talk · contribs) declined the first speedy tag, I have asked him/her to review the article. If Skomorokh agrees with speedy deletion (or a snowball close of the AfD), I would not object. Cunard (talk) 03:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I was posting my point to him at the same time you were. :) DarkAudit (talk) 03:46, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

World of Pet Supplies

It's nice to be wrong sometimes. It's too bad the person creating the article wasn't careful with lifting things from promotional web pages, it hurt his cause. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for removing the copyrighted content from the article. A Google search for "World of Pet Supplies" returns few valid results; however, a Google search with the Chinese search returns a number of good news articles. I've referenced the article using Google Translate and those sources. Best, Cunard (talk) 07:11, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for National Survivors of Suicide Day

On November 28, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article National Survivors of Suicide Day, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Mifter (talk) 08:36, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

"Outing"

What you referred to on my talk page was about an old dispute where the person I was referring to was arrogantly and heavily-handed removing content without giving me a chance to adequately support it with references, of which there were plenty. It was obvious that he was determined to keep the article on Ohio University a puff-piece. He--or she--was hiding behind a mask of anonymity in order to pursue a personal agenda -- which I might have been accused of, I admit, but I had substance to back up my edits. I don't try to cowardly hide my actions behind anonymity. jaknouse (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

If you would like to discuss with Either way (talk · contribs) why he was reverting your edits, feel free to do so on User talk:Either way. Adopting the combative tone, "I see you're still hiding your identity," is not conducive to producing a constructive conversation. Please do not bring up information that is not germane to the discussion. Many editors would like to keep their off-wiki lives separate from their on-wiki ones. Please respect that. Cunard (talk) 22:59, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I tried to discuss it. It was useless. The other individual was 100% pure and right and I was 100% pure and wrong, according to him/her, and I had no recourse. I took a hiatus from Wikipedia because of it. jaknouse (talk) 16:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Per this, I do not see recent interaction between you and Either way. In October 2007, Either way warned you for inserting original research into Ohio University. In November 2007, you posted a message to his talk page indicating that you did not vandalize Wikipedia. This dispute occurred in 2007, so I don't understand the purpose of bringing it up two years later. If you wish to ask Either way why he warned you, open a discussion on his talk page. But do not adopt a belligerent tone as you did two years ago and recently. Holding a civil, calm discussion would be more productive, and Either way will be more receptive to your comments. Cunard (talk) 23:26, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, right. This was a person who was my way or the highway. Every edit I tried to make was immediately reverted. jaknouse (talk) 00:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Either way is a reasonable editor who will respond to your inquiries if you are courteous.

Your edits to Ohio University were reverted because they were unsourced, giving the impression of original research. Now that two years have passed, what do wish to accomplish through your post to User talk:Either way? Cunard (talk) 03:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Engine (boogie-rock band) - Article in Wikipedia Incubator

Hi there, Here is the material on 'Engine (boogie-rock band)' that I've so far been able to assemble on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/engine_wad-ape-yoz/with/4135694445/ Much of it was supplied by the band's former drummer. The articles in the 'Cuttings' folder are the ones that I'm hoping will provide notability / reliability for this topic. Thankyou for taking the time to review it; please let me know if I can move forward with re-editing the Wikipedia page afterwards. Engine's band profile has also been updated on Musicmight.com, though not with any new biographical information: http://www.musicmight.com/artist/united+kingdom/merseyside/birkenhead/engine By the way, my apologies for not signing-in every time I edited the Wikipedia page previously; I genuinely didn't realize it was required to do so on each occasion. There are four of us working on this article, but 99% of the edits have come from me, and I take full resposibility for any inconsistencies. Many thanks, Yehia Tawfik —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.74.145.65 (talk) 07:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Yehia. Thanks for posting the Flickr link. This link and this link confirm that Engine passes Wikipedia's notability guidelines and thus is suitable for inclusion. Nice job obtaining those articles! Yes, you may begin editing Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Engine (boogie-rock band) to include those sources. I will review the article in a few days and will make a few changes. Then, I will ask JohnCD (talk · contribs), who closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Engine (boogie-rock band) as incubate, to move the article back to the mainspace.

No worries for forgetting to sign your edits. To do so, just type "~~~~" (four tildes) after your message. Also, as John said on your talk page, remember to log in to Yehia.tawfik (talk · contribs) before editing.

Feel free to ask me for help if you need any assistance. Good luck editing! Cunard (talk) 08:04, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

thank you

thankyou for helping!--- 18:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Limited2fan (talk • contribs)

My pleasure! Cheers, Cunard (talk) 01:42, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

PRIMO

Dear Cunard,

I amnew and I am quite confused.

I thought I am communicating with Ukpart, but now realise I am wrong, so I copied what i sent to Ukpart to you in anattempt to hang on your decision for deletion my new article.

After making a short and very plain new article to simply introduce what is the PRIMO system for Internet Marketing with plain explainary words, I am quite shocked to see your new message with mark for speedy deletion.

I am a PRIMO user, only start to know it this October but have benefit it so much since, and think everyone should know it and benefit from it, that's why I come to Wikipedia and volunteer to introduce it.

As you can see now, it's just a simple introduction with no what socalled advertising words or purpose at all. I do not understand and will be confused if this short plain introduction is to be deleted. I hope you reconsider your decision, and show me how to improve it to make it a valuable information for everyone.

Many thanks for your attention and reconsideration.

Kind regards, --Graciousness2009 (talk) 23:40, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Graciousnesss2009, I neither deleted PRIMO nor tagged the article for speedy deletion. I just removed the {{hangon}} tag you placed on your talk page.

I cannot access PRIMO because I'm not an administrator, so I do not know to what degree the article contained promotion (if any). However, the article likely did not assert notability, so it was deleted per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#A7. For an article to remain on Wikipedia, it must have significant coverage in reliable sources. I did a Google News Archive search for Primo 106 and have been unable to find any sources about the company. Primo fails Wikipedia:Notability (companies) and so does not pass Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines. If you can find at least two reliable sources that provide significant coverage about Primo, I will help you reinstate the article. Cunard (talk) 23:50, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Nicnevin

No problem at all. I started the habit of patrolling AfD looking for articles to improve rather than spam-hunting, so it's good to occasionally find one. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 12:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree. For me, salvaging articles from deletion is more beneficial to the encyclopedia and more rewarding than tagging them for deletion. Cunard (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Cunard. You have new messages at JohnCD's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Engine (boogie-rock band)

See my note to Yehia.tawfik here. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for graduating the article to Engine (boogie-rock band). The album articles were incubated per the consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Well Oiled (album). I have merged the content from those articles to Engine because they aren't independently notable. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 22:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Good, thanks. I suggest I hatch out the album articles and turn them into redirects to the band, which is what WP:NALBUMS seems to suggest - "Album articles... may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article" would leave a rediect behind. That also keeps the histories, though as they were all Yehia.tawfik that isn't really a problem from the attribution point of view. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:10, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that should be sufficient for attribution. Thanks for doing all the administrative work. Best, Cunard (talk) 23:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I've done the four hatch-and-redirects. JohnCD (talk) 15:18, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

A question about DRV

Hi, I see that you just tagged a bunch of AfDs that were brought up at DRV. One of them was from an AfD that I was a major contributor to but just learned now that it was brought to DRV. If it was tagged then I could have contributed to the DRV. Are these tags that you're adding new? If they are are hope they will be added while the reviews are still in progress. J04n(talk page) 00:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Template:Delrevafd was created in September 2008. Sadly, this handy tag hasn't been used much since October 2008. I found this template recently and plan to add them to the AfDs that are at currently at DRV, as well as to the older ones. So yes, I will be tagging the AfD pages while the DRV reviews are still in progress. Best, Cunard (talk) 08:10, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer and thank you even more for doing the tagging. J04n(talk page) 14:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for fixing my malformed closing. I appreciate that people with attention to detail are here to clean up after my careless mistakes. Chillum ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 21:00, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

No worries. The "AfD top" template should always be at the top of the page. Best, Cunard (talk) 00:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Improper relisting

There is NO evidence that the creator and subject of the article are the same person.[5] One other editor made that assumption for some confusing reason and others, such as you, are maintaining the assumption confusing everyone. The creator cleared this up and confirmed he is NOT the subject of the author on his talk page; now, please, go back and explain why you are relisting the article. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 17:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I've undone the relist because the creator is not the subject. I did not notice this as I only read the AfD, not the creator's talk page. Cunard (talk) 01:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

The whole thing is sooo confusing. Thanks for simply undoing it. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. It will be interesting to see how the closing admin will interpret the debate. It looks like a "no consensus" AfD to me. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 02:18, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure it will be wrong, whatever they do;) --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:34, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

They're always wrong. That's why we have WP:DRV. :) Cunard (talk) 02:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I won't be going for it, whatever way this turns up. I've found some sources about his fiction (Spanish sources), and I will try to add that if it stays, but if it goes, that's okay, too. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

MuZemike (talk · contribs) has closed the debate as "keep", which is, of course, wrong. ;) I believe that a more accurate reading would be "no consensus", so have left him a note about it. But I won't go to DRV to try to try to change the close because there is little difference between "keep" and "no consensus". Cunard (talk) 07:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

OMG! You really think that the AfD fails, and you get the text moved to another article, then the redirect deleted and you're not trying to delete the article? If the article is gone by whatever maneuvers you use: you're deleting it. This is unbelievable. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I have replied on the talk page. Please keep the discussion there. Cunard (talk) 02:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

No, get done with discussing it there. This is ridiculous. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Why are you posting on User talk:Cunard? Do you wish to continue the discussion here, or are we done discussing this topic? Cunard (talk) 02:14, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

You have an interesting edit history, by the way. Staring out strong. Did you spend a lot of time editing as an IP first, or did you change user names? --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I enjoyed tagging new pages for deletion as an IP for quite some time before deciding to register. One, I wanted to created a couple redirects that I could not do as an unregistered user. Two, I was tired of the treatment that IPs receive from those who have accounts. Cunard (talk) 02:33, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Really, nominated articles for deletion as an IP? Interesting. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 03:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Thinking back on my IP experience, I must say that it was fairly relaxing for me. I didn't have to worry about messages like this because I would be off to another IP the next day. Nowadays, I rarely patrol new pages, so I likely won't receive such messages from angry creators in the future. CAT:CSD is where I spend a significant portion of time, as I find that salvaging notable articles that have rectifiable problems (such as articles with partial copyright violations, promotional language, or lack of sourcing) is more beneficial to the encyclopedia and more rewarding to myself than tagging them for deletion. By the by, why did you switch from your IP to a user account? Cunard (talk) 08:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

1E miss quoted

Hello, I'm looking for some advice on how to move forward with this article. The journalist who wrote the article for reference 3, Woods, Catherine has miss quoted Sumir Karayi, 1E CEO. I would like to replace this reference and corresponding text to a more accurate up-to-date article. I am not looking to promote the company, I would just like to make sure the details within the article are factually correct. Your guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks Michellehazelton (talk) 11:14, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I have removed that paragraph in the article for now. If you can find a reliable source to update the article, feel free to do so.

Some important policies for Wikipedia articles are Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Feel free to add other information, but please make sure you cite independent, third-party reliable sources. Also, be sure to avoid peacock terms and stick to neutral language.

Here are some templates to help you cite sources. There are three main templates:

• {{cite news}} : for news websites like CNN, Fox News, ABC, MSN, etc. I normally use {{cite news |first= |last= |authorlink= |coauthors= |title= |url= |work= |publisher= |date= |accessdate= }}
• {{cite web}} : for web pages. I normally use {{cite web |url= |title= |accessdate= |last= |first= |coauthors= |date= |work= |publisher= }}. If anything (such as the author's name or the date) is not on the web page, then you should remove it from the template. The same goes with other elements in this cite web template.
• {{cite book}} : for books. I normally use {{cite book |title= |last= |first= |authorlink= |coauthors= |year= |publisher= |location= |isbn= |page= |pages= |url= }}.

Another good link about sources is Wikipedia:Reliable sources, which states that Wikipedia articles should use reliable, third-party, published sources. Remember to keep this in mind when you are researching an article. Sources from Myspace and most blogging sites are not reliable sources and should not be used in Wikipedia articles. Also, using "third-party sources" means that the article should not solely rely on sources that originate from the website that the article is about.

Wikipedia:Your first article also provides some good information about writing decent articles. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask me. Feel free to expand this article. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Cunard (talk) 11:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, much appreciated. Michellehazelton (talk) 13:29, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. In one of your edits to the article, you removed sourced information. Why did you do that? Cunard (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello, it was requested that some of the details be removed so as to make the article a bit more general. Is that ok? Michellehazelton (talk) 09:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Who requested the removal? I think the information about the founding of 1E should remain because it provides a general history of how the company came about. Cunard (talk) 10:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Quick note

Another editor (not myself) has accused you of sockpuppetry at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Todtanis. --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 01:21, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the note and the words of support at the page. It's not the first time I've been accused of being a sockmaster: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cunard. The filer has been blocked now, so the investigation could probably be speedy closed. I wonder if this is the same person who started the first report. Cunard (talk) 02:02, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Supplication

Hey Cunard! Recently I have become more aware of the work and effort you put into Wikipedia. I've looked through your talk pages, contribs, etc. and I feel you would be a great admin. I read here and here about your views on becoming an admin, but I was curious if your stance had changed since then (those threads are very old, especially if one converts it to wiki-time). Please let me know if you're interested, and I would be happy to write up a nomination statement for you. Killiondude (talk) 06:46, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for extensively researching my contributions and for your confidence in me, but I do not wish to become an administrator. I prefer to edit Wikipedia without being burdened by the tools. As an admin, blocking users, deleting articles, and closing XfDs would detract from much of my on-wiki time which would have been better used for participating in the XfDs or improving articles that are in danger of deletion. Kodster's reasons for remaining a non-admin, summed in the essay, Wikipedia:I don't want to be an administrator, represent my opinions on the subject.

Additionally, during contentious debates, some non-admins tend to assume that the admins are always abusing their "status" to elevate their own positions. Several times I have seen this occur in the AfDs I have participated in, as well as other discussions I have read. If I were an admin at the time, I know that I would have been dragged into the berating. While I do not mind such berating, this would have further deviated from the discussion at hand. Being a non-admin gives me the freedom that admins do not have. Thanks again for your trust in me and my apologies for wasting the time you spent reading through my contributions, but I'd prefer to leave the janitorial work to the current crew of admins, who are doing a stellar job of maintaining this encyclopedia. ;) Best, Cunard (talk) 07:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for making your position clear. I did enjoy reading your reasoning, and I have to admit that I do agree with some aspects of it. If you ever change your mind, please let me know; my offer would (likely) still stand. :-) Killiondude (talk) 08:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 08:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

...I just came here to ask you the same thing as Killion. :) I'd be happy to offer a nom/conom as well if you should ever desire. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 00:22, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Wow, thank you for confidence in me, but I would like to remain a non-admin per the reasons I enumerated above. Besides, I like having the admins act as my servants. Ordering them around and making them clean up the mess I create is much more satisfying than doing the work myself. ;) Cunard (talk) 00:37, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey now, just remember that [{WP:ROUGE|we can]] block you for making messes. ;) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 02:05, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

And we can slap you with this sprinkled with this when you, the guardian of the encyclopedia, carelessly forget to pipe links correctly. Yum! Yum! :P Cunard (talk) 02:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Of course, a silly "normal editor" slapping me—the all-powerful godly administrator—with a honey garlic fish fillet might result in a one-man purge. Say goodbye, Cunard. ;) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 07:25, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

O Sir Ed, O Sir Minister of the Majestic Titan, please do not block the servile editor who grovels at the feet of those who are blessed with being servants of the land of the free encyclopedia. I entreat you to reconsider your malicious threats of purging me from the face of this website, as I will pursue the most vicious form of retaliation. I will forever haunt you with pictures of love: 1, 2, 3, etc., so that possessed with the jealous knowledge that you will never be befriended by such a cutie, you'll never get a good night's sleep. :P Cunard (talk) 22:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

O_O Please, please no. Anything but that... gosh, I can't believe that I thought waterboarding was the worst torture on the Earth.

Of course, it would be hard to find internet access in Siberia. (just saying...) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 07:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Merrilands College

Well i wrote that information, and i would like it deleted/changed. I do not like things i write to be added to other pages without the authors permission. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MR.SHANDO (talk • contribs) 11:08, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't work that way. Whenever you edit a page, there is a disclaimer: "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license. See the Terms of Use for details."

When Lakeside Secondary College and Ruthven Primary School are finally merged and when the new school's name is verifiable, just drop me a note, and I will revert the redirect on Ruthven College. Best, Cunard (talk) 11:17, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 January 10#Chrismahanukwanzakah

I responded there. I hate the concept, but think it's notable in pop-culture; on the other hand, the consensus just last week was to delete it, not to create a redirect. I support the decision of the crowd here at WP, unless it's completely nonsense. Please read WP:NAM. Bearian (talk) 02:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

It will not be a net benefit, but that's when AfD trumps RfD. Bearian (talk) 02:06, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I neither participated in the AfD, nor do I have an opinion as to whether an article is warranted in this situation. However, I believe that a redirect would be a net positive for Wikipedia. It provides guidance for Wikipedia's readers and thus should be kept per WP:RFD#KEEP #3 and #5.

AfD decides whether an article should be kept or deleted. It does not mandate that a redirect should not be created. A redirect is an editorial decision that falls outside AfD.

Why do you believe that this redirect will not be a net benefit? Cunard (talk) 02:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Cunard, it does not matter what I believe. I don't think it's notable. I don't know if it is a viable redirect. The close was delete. The group believes that it should be deleted, and not redirected. Now if you disagree about that, then take it to WP:DRV. That is the process. You win some and lose some. Bearian (talk) 19:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for fixing my jacked-up AfD close on that goofy userpage...it was my first one and I tried to copy off a different article's close, but...anyway, thanks! I'll get it right soon, I'm hoping. GJC 19:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Your close of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:TheGreenMartian/TGM's Vandalism Tools (it's a joke) not only represented the consensus there, but was also in the best interests of the encyclopedia. Not bad for a first close! Cheers, Cunard (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi there CUNARD, VASCO from Portugal here,

Thank you for "interfering" here (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:NuclearWarfare#Help_required), nice job.

Have a great week, i'll wiki-see you,

VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 01:37, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. When checking to see why an article or template looks weird, you can usually locate the mistake by looking through the page history and seeing where the mistake originated. Best, Cunard (talk) 01:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

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Lê Văn Thịnh

Thanks a lot for you detailed copyediting, it made the article better and also help me ... learn English :). I'm happy that you enjoy the article. Have a nice day :)! Grenouille vert (talk) 12:51, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure! Thank you for writing about Vietnamese topics, helping Wikipedia counter systemic bias. If you need any copyediting in the future, feel free to ask me. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 21:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

DoggyRide

Thanks for taking the time to review the article about the DoggyRide brand. Please note that the DoggyRide brand name has become part of the Dutch language as a genericized trademark. That in itself would provide notability for a Wikipedia article on it's own. The fact that DoggyRide has grown beyond a bicycle trailer to a travel and outdoors products and is used for service and guide dogs behind wheelchairs makes the spot itself rare. A search on the Internet will find numerous references in news media, blogs and next month it will be featured in a major TV show broadcasted by BBC. With this I hope to have address the notability issue, so that the article can remain intact to grow in informative value over the years to come. Have a great day :)! mattmontare (talk) 19:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Notability is determined by the amount of coverage in reliable sources. Are there any Dutch newspapers that have written about DoggyRide? If you can provide two or more good references (excluding non-reliable blogs and websites that have a connection to DoggyRide), notability is established and the article can be kept. Cunard (talk) 03:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

overlinking

Thanks for catching this. I was about to post here when notification of your message appeared. Tony (talk) 08:43, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I noticed Ryoung122‎ (talk · contribs) overlinking the year at Jiroemon Kimura, which I have watchlisted. Best, Cunard (talk) 08:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Wiki policies

Wiki policies are often contingent and fluid, open to constant reinterpretation. For many years, Wikipedia had "date links" for every birth and death date. Now they don't. If you knew the history of the change, a lot of it was made for "window-dressing" purposes (attempting to avoid "over" linking) but this came at the sacrifice of functionality.

At the very least, exceptions should be made when a supercentenarian is put out as a symbolic link to the past. Indeed, life "timelines" are quite common for articles on supercentenarians. A little more thought to the subject (why is the person noted?) would establish the reason for having a YEAR link. After all, are these persons not held out as "living links to the past"?Ryoung122 09:01, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I understand your arguments about linking but disagree with them. Adding symbolic links to the past in supercentenarian articles does not help the reader as this is not what the articles are for. If you would like to get Wikipedia:Linking#Year linking changed, please start a discussion about it on Wikipedia talk:Linking. I do not wish to spend my time on Wikipedia debating the inclusion of links on dates, so please take it Wikipedia talk:Linking. Cunard (talk) 09:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Response to Ryoung: No, the dumping of date-autoformatting was not window dressing: it was entirely functional. Blueing every date and date fragment was significantly diluting the functional links in their vicinity, as do common-term links I see every day, such as "dog" and "vomit", in articles on, say, pop singers. This degrades the wikilinking system.

No, this one is not "contingent and fluid", and is open to interpretation only where it demonstrably improves the project. Your linkings do not do this. Please accept the huge (85%?) majority in favour of the rule that you tried to expunge at WP:LINKING only an hour ago.

I must ask you to cease and desist from your campaign of linking years in articles on supercentenarians. This matter was explicitly decided last year ... against. Tony (talk) 09:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dorothy Geeben

On January 28, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dorothy Geeben, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Email Marketing

I'm in discussion with NeilN. I don't understand why my post is being removed. I am referencing from a global publication. The link itself comes from a Magazine. The website release the latest articles, so this is not violating in any shape or form. The global publication is a trusted source in the marketing industry. Please can you explain why my edits are being removed, it seems quite silly. I am an editor for Marketing Week, we are often asked to edit many articles on wiki. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Steven Armstrong (talk • contribs) 00:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Before adding the link yet again and getting blocked, I strongly suggest you answer the questions I posed on your talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:22, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Link spamming is unacceptable. Please do not do it again. Like NeilN, I cannot verify the existence of the Marketing Guru magazine Cunard (talk) 00:24, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

in case you thought I'd forgotten...

I am now working on User:MichaelQSchmidt/Sandbox/Michael Schelp as a suitable place for redirects for Spark Plug Entertainment, An Ant's Life, and his other various mockbuster films. I belive Schelp can be sourced through his work in Cha$e, MANswers, and as an exec for Fujisankei. It even turns out he is fluent enough in Japanese to have acted as translator. Oh... it's a work-in-progress.... and I know better than to turn it loose without sourcing (chuckle)... so have faith... I'll be keeping up on it. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on the article. Looks nice so far! Schelp seems to have enough sources to pass WP:BIO. I've asked Jclemens (talk · contribs) to undelete Spark Plug Entertainment. Best, Cunard (talk) 18:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

That was quite nice of you, thanks. I'll give it some more and get back to you. Best, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Canvassing

Thanks for the suggestion. I just re-read Wikipedia:Canvassing. Please be assured that I was just being friendly, unlike some other editors who actually believe that Wikipedia needs to be destroyed! By far, it is the most violated rule around here, and I've been accused of it even when I wasn't doing it. In this case, I did inadvertantly break the rule. Mea culpa. If I don't care one way or the other, then is it canvassing? If nobody saw how much work you do to improve articles around here, did it happen? If I had a point, it was to challenge other editors to do their fair share of work around here. Bearian (talk) 19:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

If you truly believe that all unreferenced BLPs must be deleted, then you should support my nomination for deletion of this stub. (diff) does not sound like a "friendly" message; it's telling MZMcBride that he should vote delete on the AfD. I consider messages such as this and this to be neutral messages of notification that do not violate Wikipedia:Canvassing. From the tone of your messages here and at the AfD, it appears that you do care one way: you want the article deleted.

At the time of your nomination, the article already contained a reference from The New York Post and thus would not qualify for BLP deletion. A second source was added by Nefariousski (talk · contribs) after you nominated the article for deletion. I do believe that other editors are doing their fair share. I am not sure by what you mean with the question "If nobody saw how much work you do to improve articles around here, did it happen?" Cunard (talk) 19:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

There appears to be a new clear consensus to eliminate as many poorly sourced BLPs as possible. My recent attempts to fix several articles have been derided. Nobody seems to care anymore, except, it appears, you. Bearian (talk) 19:37, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Where have people derided your attempts at improving the encyclopedia? Please give me some links to such instances. Cunard (talk) 19:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I looked at the old reference at this diff and read "New York Press", which I've never encountered, not the New York Post, which is a pretty good source. Bearian (talk) 19:40, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

My mistake. The New York Press, while not as reliable as the New York Post, is still a valid reference. Cunard (talk) 19:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

User:Loopknow

Why would you possibly want to delete User:Loopknow? Woogee (talk) 04:55, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The page should be deleted per the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Grawp. For a full explanation, see User talk:Cunard/Archive 3#db templates on vandal's talk pages. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

File:Objfashion1.png

Please explain what makes the claims on File:Objfashion1.png valid. Woogee (talk) 05:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The image is currently not tagged for deletion, so removal of the tag was valid. Whether or not the license is a valid one is up for debate. If you believe that the image license is incorrect, feel free to nominate it for Wikipedia:Files for deletion or tag for speedy deletion again (if a criterion applies). I have limited knowledge about image licenses, so I can offer little advice as to what should be done here. Cunard (talk) 06:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Deletion, (not notable)

Hi Cunard,

I have been the subjsct of an article deleted today. This isn't a complaint - it's not for me to say whether I'm notable or not. In the event, it seems that improvments were not written and added in time.

I have read the material about deletiona and Wikipedia standards and found it very informative, thanks. It only left me with one question mark. A device invented by me got a good deal of attention form the press (in this case the music press; numerous reviews of 'Note Tracker', all 100% positive).

You were unable to find evidence of it because the press material and testimonials from users date from around 1990 and as far as I know only exists in hard copy (of which I have a folder full). At least, it doesn't have an internet presence, production having ceased due to lack of funding.

This is where your advice would be appreciated. Is there a way such material can be presented with referance to an article? If not, I assume the item won;t be accepted at all, is that the case?

With Thanks in Advance for your advice,

Peter Davies Pd1950 (talk) 23:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Since you have old newspaper and magazine articles that provide reviews about Note Tracker, please scan the articles to your computer, and then upload them to Flickr or any other photo-sharing site. Then post the links to my talk page. You can create a draft about Note Tracker at User:Pd1950/Note Tracker and incorporate those sources into it. I will look over the article, make any necessary changes, and then move it to the mainspace once it satisfies Wikipedia's guidelines.

The sources you provide must be reliable and independent of yourself. The reviews should be from reputable publishers (such as newspapers/magazines that have an editorial staff); testimonials or letters from users will not suffice. Unless there are sources that provide nontrivial coverage about you yourself, your biography cannot be undeleted as it would violate Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. However, some biographical information could be included in Note Tracker, as long as the information can be verified. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 23:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Football Insects

He's a patient little mother. He was created a month ago, obviously parodying my user ID and waiting for a chance to do something with it. Probably a sock of Pioneercourthouse, but it really doesn't matter as long as he gets indef'd. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Making all those pointless edits on his userpage to get to autoconfirmed status pretty much confirms that he's a sleeper. I'm surprised that he hasn't been blocked yet though. Materialscientist (talk · contribs) only gave him a warning. Cunard (talk) 02:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

He's unaware. I've now reported the user to UAA. Impersonations don't require warnings before being indef'd. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I've replied at AIV and asked Materialscientist to review the situation. He should be blocked soon. Cunard (talk) 03:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

He's blocked. I was a little startled to realize that FI's first edit, a month ago, was this shot at me [6] which I saw at the time but failed to take notice of the username, or I would have turned it in then and there. But maybe this is better, as it might make a potential SPI easier. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

FI's trolling with unblock requests now. Well, good luck with the SPI case. Cunard (talk) 03:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, he was already on my watchlist, so I apparently did notice him, but either forgot to file at AIV or they failed to take action. Whatever. Just another mosquito swatted. And I'm not filing an SPI. They're very tedious and the checkusers typically won't look outside the box to see what's really going on. So I don't do it anymore. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Symbolic Dimension: An Exploration of the Compositional Process

Dear Cunard: I have just changed one of the references on The Symbolic Dimension: An Exploration of the Compositional Process. Please give me the chance to find some more articles in the book. I just Googled it and over 350 hits resulted. Thank you for your understanding. (GoldbergEva (talk) 07:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC))(GoldbergEva (talk) 07:43, 9 February 2010 (UTC))

Dear Cunard: I have just changed one of the references. Please give me the chance to find some more articles in the book. I just Googled it and over 350 hits resulted. Thank you for your understanding. (GoldbergEva (talk) 07:40, 9 February 2010 (GoldbergEva (talk) 07:44, 9 February 2010 (UTC))

I'm sorry: I should have said "articles ON the book". Thank you (GoldbergEva (talk) 07:45, 9 February 2010 (UTC))

I have replied at the AfD. Please keep the discussion there. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for World Chocolate Wonderland

On February 10, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article World Chocolate Wonderland, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 06:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Cunard. You have new messages at Ginsengbomb's talk page.
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ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 15:18, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Article Ambarish Srivastava

Thanks to encourage me. I had already made a request before about 24 hours of the deletion of article Ambarish Srivastava during AFD process that the article Ambarish Srivastava should not be deleted, i had provided the reliable source on 08-Feb. 2010. After about one hour when i provided that source i have visited it again, i found there that the article was deleted yet. it appears that the reliable source which i have provided was not inspected or considered properly during AFD, by which cause, i was discouraged. Now there are many reliable sources so please restore the Article Ambarish Srivastava. Spjayswal67 (talk) 04:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

No worries. I noticed that, with the uploading of many newspaper articles, you expended much time and effort on the article. The consensus at deletion review at the moment is supportive of returning the article to the mainspace after you have worked on it at your userspace draft, User:Spjayswal67/Ambarish Srivastava. The reason is that the article, in order to comply with our Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy, needs to be sourced. Currently, your userspace draft has many external links to reliable sources but lacks inline citations.

Here are some templates to help you cite sources. There are three main templates:

• {{cite news}} : for news websites like CNN, Fox News, ABC, MSN, etc. I normally use {{cite news |first= |last= |authorlink= |coauthors= |title= |url= |work= |publisher= |date= |accessdate={{CURRENTYEAR}}-{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{CURRENTDAY}} }}
• {{cite web}} : for web pages. I normally use {{cite web |url= |title= |accessdate= |last= |first= |coauthors= |date= |work= |publisher= |accessdate={{CURRENTYEAR}}-{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{CURRENTDAY}} }}. If anything (such as the author's name or the date) is not on the web page, then you should remove it from the template. The same goes with other elements in this cite web template.
• {{cite book}} : for books. I normally use {{cite book |title= |last= |first= |authorlink= |coauthors= |year= |publisher= |location= |isbn= |page= |pages= |url= }}.

I advise you to withdraw the DRV request for now to give you time to work referencing the article with the above citation templates. After the article is fully referenced, you can contact me here and I will bring the article back to Wikipedia:Deletion review and, I hope, get the consensus needed to restore the article. If you have any questions about the citation templates or anything else, feel free to ask me. Cunard (talk) 08:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks. Please visit my userspace draft, User:Spjayswal67/Ambarish Srivastava as per my views it is fully referenced with inline citations. if u feel any fault there please suggest me about what should i do for it's health?. if you think that it is fully referenced with inline citations, please bring the article back to Wikipedia:Deletion review.Regards Spjayswal67 (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

• The deletion review is located at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 February 14#User:Spjayswal67/Ambarish Srivastava. Cunard (talk) 23:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Please Explain

I saw this posted by you in an exchange discussing Embers (band) and Lesser of Two:

I find it amusing that Noodle believes that I am being "conspiratorial" when he himself is the conspiratorial one — he denies the blatant canvassing, although he posts "Now they're out to get Lesser of Two" and "Please help" messages on multiple talk pages. That gets me thinking. If he can canvass multiple people to join the AfDs, why can't I? I'm busy right now as I have to conspire with my special group of special Wikipedians, many of whom belong to this special group. Cunard (talk) 09:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I have defended myself from your accusations on the Lesser of Two AfD page. Every person I contacted was already involved in the articles in question. The only new input I solicited was a posting on both the punk and metal portals, and the message is rather bland. Rather than fire accusations back at you and clutter up the discussion with nonsense I thought it best to ask you directly what you meant by your comment above. Also, I would ask that you stop attacking myself and others in the discussion and bring up any concerns about "canvassing" or whatever other conspiracies you have on their talk page. If that doesn't satisfy you perhaps there is a better way to address your concerns than making such allegations during the AfD discussion. It distracts from substantial arguments even your own. javascript:insertTags('noodle 23:19, 13 February 2010 (UTC)',,) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noodlesteve (talk • contribs) 23:19, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

• The above is part of some banter at User talk:Ginsengbomb#Speedy deletion declined: Embers (band) (permalink) between Ginsengbomb (talk · contribs) and me. I apologize if you were offended by our sarcastic discourse which was meant solely for our amusement.

  I am amused by the fact that you believe me to be "conspiratorial" when, in fact, this can be said of yourself since you were canvassing. At User talk:ScarTissueBloodBlister, User talk:Prairie2010, User talk:Radeksz, and User talk:Black Kronstadt, you wrote a non-neutral message which implicitly told the canvassed users to vote "keep" on the article. Phrases such as "Now they're out to get Lesser of Two", "... Lesser of Two is a band with many more references and accomplishments" (mine emphasized), and "Please help" cannot be reasonably construed as acceptable per Wikipedia:Canvassing#Friendly notices. This is Wikipedia:Canvassing#Campaigning because you are trying to sway the receiver's opinion through your use of tone and intent.

  On the other hand, your messages at User talk:WikHead and User talk:Alvin Seville are acceptable in that they are neutral in tone.

  That said, I am willing to withdraw the debate if you provide reliable sources that prove that the band passes Wikipedia:Band #5 : "Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)." This appears to be the only way that the band Lesser of Two can pass Wikipedia's inclusion standards since it fails the other criteria listed at WP:BAND as well as Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline and Wikipedia:Verifiability. Cunard (talk) 07:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Heart-kun

On February 14, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Heart-kun, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 12:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

the Lesser of Two Criteria 5 WP:BAND discussion

I apologize in advance for this (the length), but it appears my comments on this subject are getting lost in the discussions of critereas 1 and 4. Below is the text of our discussion exclusively on criterea 5 WP:BAND. As you can see I responded to your initial question, but then we go distracted by a discussion further down in the AfD. I don't mind if you delete this section once you've read it. javascript:insertTags('noodle 00:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)',,)

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====Analysis of Criterea 5 of [[WP:BAND]] by the Author of this Article==== Lesser of Two released records on Nikt Nic Nie Wie (Poland), Malarie Records (Czech Republic), Terrorismo Sonora (Mexico), Estajanovismo Records (Mexico), Farmhouse Records (USA), Beyond this they self released the majority of their music due to their DIY ethic (See MRR above). Although I think exceptions should be made for expressly DIY bands they still had two or more releases on major independent labels which are labels existing over a "few years" with a roster of other notable acts. Nikt Nic Nie Wie (self titled tape with Polish translations) is the first independent label in Poland and has released numerous notable bands. That should be relatively non-controversial if one looks. The next most prolific label is Malarie (self titled 12" vinyl) is the next most prolific label which has recently released an album by MDC (band) and has released many other notable bands including Zounds, Harum Scarum (see Cypher_in_the_Snow), and Homo Militia to name a few.([7], [8]) Since this label is still active it fulfills both criteria of 5 WP:BAND Estajanovismo (self titled tape with Spanish translations) is a label from Mexico that has been around since the early 1990's and has released other notable bands such as Varukers, Resist and Exist (see Total Chaos (band)), The Ex (band), Wolfbrigade and much more. Terrorismo Sonora I do not know if this label is prolific enough to qualify for critera 5 of WP:BAND. I will have to do more research, but criterea 5 only requires two or more. Farmhouse Records (Farmhouse '94 Compilation 12" and CD) was established in 1993 and has released albums with Submission Hold (band) and Useless ID. I would list more but you guys get the point. Since we have at least four releases on important independent labels then we have met this standard of notability as well as the other aforementioned criteria due to coverage in reliable publications. javascript:insertTags('noodle 02:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)',,) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noodlesteve (talk • contribs) The external links provided above do not verify that Lesser Than Two has released albums on these record labels. Nonetheless, there is a chance that this passes [WP:MUSIC]] #5 per your comments above. WP:MUSIC #5 states: “ Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). ” If you are able to provide verification from reliable sources that Lesser than Two has released two or more albums on one of labels you mentioned above, I will withdraw this AfD nomination. Cunard (talk) 07:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC) NNNW: this is listed in the NNNW catalog as release #90 along with numerous notable bands. Malarie: the website distro's all Lesser of Two releases as well as Embers (band) (see: related discussion), and states, "first was released by band on CD, NNNW on casssete and MALARIE on vinyl." Estajanovismo/Terrorismo Sonora: This was a limited edition tape co-release in support of Lesser of Two's tour in Mexico. I can't find anything online so this may require another trip to the scanner. Farmhouse: Farmhouse '94 is a rare out of print record. I found it for $45 at wegotrecords.com Remember that criteria #5 of WP:BAND does not require a "reliable" source as does criteria #1 and #4. These source are sufficient for verification under WP:SELFPUB. javascript:insertTags('noodle 19:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)',,) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noodlesteve (talk • contribs) Please list the two albums that this band has released on a "major label" / "more important indie label". And list the sources that correspond to those two albums. From your post above, it is unclear as to which two albums are from the "major label" / "more important indie label". Cunard (talk) 19:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC) Well, I would say the links above qualify ALL the labels as "important indie" except Terrorismo Sonora (due to lack of information at this moment, it's a co-release anyway). At this point I would say NNNW, Malarie, AND Farmhouse since the links above prove they exist and are "an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable" as per #5 WP:BAND. The Malarie link above breaks it down pretty well. I could get a scan of the Estajanovismo, but it might take some time. I hope we don't have to debate the meaning of the words "two", "few", and "many" in #5 WP:BAND because I think this AfD has been sufficiently exhaustive and served it's purpose.javascript:insertTags('noodle 21:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)',,) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noodlesteve (talk • contribs)

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Thank you for providing those sources. I have withdrawn the debate. Cunard (talk) 07:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for following WP:DONTBITE and for your effort. ('noodle 07:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)',,) Noodlesteve (talk)

No worries. Thanks for providing much food for thought as to whether or not the sources you provided can be considered reliable sources. I'm swayed but not fully convinced. However, due to the lack of coverage in the mainstream media about punk rock, I guess Maximumrocknroll, Flipside, and the other fanzines must suffice to combat the systemic bias that exists with this music genre. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Is your closing of this debate appropriate considering there is still outstanding delete !votes? duffbeerforme (talk) 11:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

The closure does not strictly meet Wikipedia:Non-admin closure due to the outstanding delete votes. However, I closed the debate as I cannot foresee a "delete" close after I withdrew my nomination. If you wish to continue the debate, I will undo my close though. Cunard (talk) 00:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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In a word, yes - although I wasn't singling you out for attention in particular. It's just that whenever I come across a user I'm not familiar with, I take a look at the pages they've been working on, and in your case I noticed that several of the articles you've created or worked on were orphans. Please don't take this personally, and if the templates are no longer appropriate, feel free to remove them. Robofish (talk) 22:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. I do not mind users pointing out the improvements needed for the articles on which I have worked. However you should keep in mind though that the tags you placed across multiple articles may be disheartening to some users, especially if the issues cannot be easily revolved - de-orphaning some pages may be very difficult. However, I have a couple of articles in mind (such as List of dogs) and I'll add links for Heart-kun to it. Best, Cunard (talk) 23:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Sacred microdistillery youtube archived link doesn't work.

Hello Cunard, thankyou for your help bringing the Sacred Microdistillery page up to scratch. I like the archiving that you have done. I tested the links, and found that the one you created for the youtube video doesn't work, though the original does. Is this fixable? I will try to learn how to use the archiving system, but don't have the skills yet. best wishesBeefeaterdrinker (talk) 11:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. The YouTube archive link has an error because although the WebCite system can archive images and pdfs, it cannot archive YouTube videos. I've commented out the YouTube archive link since I don't think it's fixable.

Here are some templates to help you cite sources. There are three main templates:

• {{cite news}} : for news websites like CNN, Fox News, ABC, MSN, etc. I normally use {{cite news |title= |author |url= |work= |publisher= |date= |accessdate={{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}-{{subst:CURRENTMONTH}}-{{subst:CURRENTDAY}} |archiveurl= |archivedate= }}
• {{cite web}} : for web pages. I normally use {{cite web |url= |title= |accessdate={{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}-{{subst:CURRENTMONTH}}-{{subst:CURRENTDAY}} |last= |first= |coauthors= |date= |work= |publisher= |archiveurl= |archivedate= }}. If anything (such as the author's name or the date) is not on the web page, then you should remove it from the template. The same goes with other elements in this cite web template.
• {{cite book}} : for books. I normally use {{cite book |title= |last= |first= |authorlink= |coauthors= |year= |publisher= |location= |isbn= |page= |pages= |url= }}.

To use WebCite to archive online urls, you can submit the urls to http://webcitation.org/archive. Occasionally, the WebCite link will return an error due to a no-cache tag (see "Cache-Control" section of List of HTTP headers#Responses for more information). If this happens, the page cannot be archived.

Thank you for writing Sacred Microdistillery at User:Beefeaterdrinker/Sandbox for Wikipedia! If you need any further help, feel free to ask me. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 11:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

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Here is translation of some news related to article Ambarish Srivastava. Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

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1. This News Title : Ambarish Indira Gamdhi Priyadarshini Award se Sammanit [Ambarish honored to Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award]: p. 04. 2007-12-07. Name of Newspaper :“Dainik Jagran” , Lucknow , 07 December 2007 | Page 4| Sitapur Ambarish honored to Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award (Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award to Amberish) Sitapur, 6 December Here's Architectural engineer Ambarish Srivastava have been awarded the Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award. The honor of Award on behalf of National Unity Conference has been posted to him. Mr. Srivastava was not found to receive honor at Delhi due to became Injured. He was invited by the National Unity Conference to receive this award at constitutional club Rafi Marg, New Delhi, he was to be provided this award the same day in the award ceremony but he was injured in a road accident on 11 October 2007 . He received the award recently by mail. Resistant to Sitapur ,Architectural engineer Ambarish Srivastava, particularly work in the field of earthquake resistant construction and design than work for the welfare of workers. For these actions he received this honor. Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) 2 This News by Hindustan, Reporter (4 December 2007). News title: "Shramikon ke kalyan ka kaayta karna hee uddeshya [He intent to labour welfare only]" Name of Newspaper Hindustan Lucknow , Tuesday 04 Dec, 2007 page 13 Sitapur He intent to labour welfare only. (His Aim: work to welfare of workers:) Having Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award, Ambarish have to proud himself. Sitapur (Hindustan Reporter): Architectural engineer Ambarish Srivastava has been awarded Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award. Award is honored to have it himself. This information was given in the press conference at Sitapur, Mr Srivastava said that the conference held in New Delhi 'India off Indiraj Dream' Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award was announced. He said that he was injured in a road accident, had both hands tied in the plaster was why he could not take the award there. He received this award through mail due to not reaching in this function. He said he is particularly work for earthquake resistant building construction and design. He said that his aim is to work for the welfare of workers. He said that Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award are honored because it found itself in various areas important services award, for outstanding services ,achievements and contributions and is given on the birthday of the former Prime Minister Indira Gandhi by National Unity Conference in Delhi. "This honor is special for him because even as Mother Teresa, Birju Mhraj, Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia, Russee Modi, M. P. Navjot Singh Siddhhu and Deepak Nayar like figure has been honored with this award. Being honored engineer Ambarish Srivastava his associates are very happy. Colleagues say that the Ambarish has increased distinction of Sitapur . In press conference Hari Narain Srivastava, Raj Kumar Srivastava, Sanjeev Saxena, Anil Kumar Dwivedi and others were present there. Photo Award winner Ambarish Srivastava. Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) 3.This News title "Ambarish Srivastava Indira Gamdhi Priyadarshini Award se Sammanit kiye gaye [Ambarish Srivastava honored with Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award]” Name of Newspaper : Rashtriya Sahara, Lucknow. Monday, December 3rd, 2007 Page -2 Sitapur. Ambarish Srivastava honored with Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award. Sitapur, December 2: Earthquake resistant building construction experts Ambarish Srivastava of the district is extremely happy being honored with India Gandhi Priyadarshini Award in conference named India of Indira’s dream held in Delhi at last month. In a press conference held at city hotel Melroj He said receiving the award fully marks to their parents, teachers as well as colleagues too. Expert Srivastava is resident of Kaysthan Srayan near Guria Jhal at Laharpur route. He told journalists in 1993 he had started his career he had designed the first earthquake resistant Regency Public Degree College , then he constructed a guest house as well as other buildings. He said he obtained the seismic design education in 2004-2005 from IIT Kanpur, Mr Srivastava joined Indian Institute of off-Building Association as a Member now he became president of the association have reached today. Mainly in the press conference Former Minister Buniyad Hussain Ansari, Anil Dwivedi, Pappu Bhatnagar, Ranjit Saxena, Hrinarayn, Kuldeep, Sudhir and Sharad Srivastava were present. Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) 4. This News By Mohan Verma (4 January 2009). "Samman pakar phoole nahee samaye Chhavinath [Being honored Chhavinath was to much happy]" (in Hindi). Danik Jagran (Lucknow): p. Front page of Jagran City. Name of Newspaper :Danik Jagran Lucknow (Jagran City)Jan 04, 2009, page 1st (Special report at Sunday) Being honored Chhavinath was to much happy (Extremely happy to have respect Chavinath) Sitapur, 3 January: Poor Chavinath of Aga Colony is very much pleased being honored by the people through neighborhood. he say, the last stage of life such a joy in having received honors from others, as life has become meaningful. Live by a cottage near river Srayan Chavinath, who do not get to eat everyday properly. His son arranges his bread by pulling Thelia (Rickshaw or goods) any way (cereal Jugadh). Spent in these circumstances - to live in any old gift, then, of course if he 'beg' the will, one way to meet someone on honor got him a valuable commodity. Similar in concept to have respect not only Chavinath minds of colony, but keep the assumption is even older neighborhood close to 35. Yes, people who own and others' mothers - fathers do not have respect, they should learn from Agha Colony, these enthusiastic young people. Even without any discrimination by some young men of great honor elders have put a new tradition. Architectural engineer Ambarish Srivastava and Kuldeep Saxena, of the neighborhood by adding its foundation. Points out that, families are spread Ambarish reportedly that the aim of the felicitation ceremony held to remove segregation in families. The more than sixty years of age by honoring their elders wished to have better health and viva. He now says that it has been awarded to only the neighborhood elder elders, then to district-level program is planned. To support that the Ambarish, Kuldeep says at the felicitation ceremony was awarded to the first Cvinath's poorest neighborhood ignoring the poverty and wealth. All homes for one – contribution was one rupee only and lamps (maid of soil) for lightning were sent to their homes. Then they were told that they have some stored in their home and rest brought to the venue. This type of sacrifice was held in the form of ‘Deep Yagya’ (pray to god by lightning lamps) and this tradition has begun. This (event of this work )was staged in the rupee 3089 which was collected from people in the neighborhood. He says that the committee need not. Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) 5. This News by Jagran Karyalaya (19 January 2009). "Shikshak evam Kaviyon ka Hua Samman [Poets and teachers were honored]" (in Hindi). Danik Jagran (Lucknow): p. Front page of Jagran City. Name of Newspaper : Danik Jagran (Lucknow):dated 19 January 2009, p. Front page of Jagran City. Poets and teachers were honored. Sitapur, 18 January: Youths of the Aga Colony Civil Line awarded to poet and litterateurs Swami Vivekananda Jayanti to mark Swami Vivekananda Jayanti at Saturday. This mark Hindi Ratna (Gems of Hindi which is name of a honor) Ganitagya (mathematician) and Kawysri (Rich in poetry) honor were awarded those persons. Mr. Ambarish Srivastava, Kuldeep Saxena, Mukesh Gupta, Ashish Srivastava, Ajay Dixit, Avdesh Pal, Santosh Bajpai, Shiv Kumar Pal etc were organized this event with the help of ‘Vivekanand Seva Sansthan’ (name of a society), ‘Sahitya Utthan Parishad’ (society of litterateurs) and ‘Akhil Bharteey Chitransh Mahasabha’(society). Program was conference at Vivekananda Public School at in late night in a kavi sammelan (Conference of Poets). Dr. Gneshdutt Saraswat and Niranjan Lal Agnihotri have bee awarded Hindi Ratna (Gems of Hindi which is name of a honor) and Pankaj Srivastava, a teacher of sacred heart Inter College was awarded with mathematician and Som Dikshit, Mukteshwar Baksh Srivastava, Dinesh Mishra Rahi, Gopal Sagar, Ram Sagar Shukla, Mehfooj Rahmani, Mujeeb Sitapuri, Raj Kumar Srivastava, Shacheerani Saxena, Vinodni Rastogi, Gyanvati Dixit, Balendu Dutt Tripathi, Maya Prakash Awasthi, Pratap Narain Mishra, Shanti Sharan Mishra, Akhilesh, Rajneesh Mishra, Pankaj Pandey, Rajan Pandey, Ambarish Srivastava, Shyam Bihari Lal Srivastava, Chandra Gupta Srivastava Diwakar Pratap, Brijkant Vajpayee, Kuldeep Saxena, Neal Srivastava, Bhupendra Dixit, and three dozen poets, including Rajesh Akela the 'Kawysri’ (name of honor) awarded by the manager of school Jai Prakash Verma. Program was presided by Maya Prakash Awasthi Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) This News by Hindustan Reporter (29 April 2004). "Building Designers Association gathit [Building Designers Association constituted]" (in Hindi). 'Aaj' (Lucknow): p. 6. Name of Newspaper : 'Hindustan" (Lucknow): dated 29 April 2004 p. 6. Hindustan, Lucknow dated 29 April 2004, page 6 Building Designers Association constituted " Sitapur (Hindustan Reporter). Indian Institute of off-Building Designers Association Meeting held in local hotel Melroj where officials were selected by consensus of the committee, the president Er. Ambarish Srivastava has been elected as president while the General Secretary Syed Murtaza Hussain Rizvi has been elected . Newly appointed president Er. Ambarish Srivastava said the Er. Ajay Srivastava & Er. Anupam Srivastava have been elected as vice-president, Umesh Prakash Srivastava & Desh Deepak Srivastava as Joint Secretary and as a treasurer Er. Akhilesh Srivastava (nominated). Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) This News by Aaj Reporter (05 April 2005). "Building Designers Association ne kee baithak [Annual Meeting of the Building Designers Association]" (in Hindi). 'Aaj' (Lucknow): p. 10. Name of Newspaper : 'Aaj" (Lucknow):dated 05 April 2005, p. 10. Sitapur (Aaj Reporter). Annual meeting of all members and officials of the Indian Institute of Building Designers Association held at in local hotels Melroj under the chairmanship of Er. Ambarish Srivastava. In this meeting all one decided to constitute a Professional Building Designers Registration board at the national level and execute a committee of three members was set up for it. As well as providing this information the general secretary of the ‘Indian Institute of Building designers Association’ announced that this registration board of IIBD will hold an examination for the registration of professional building designers (PBD) on June 30 on the basis of which a register will be formed and a certificate of registration of Professional Building Designers will be provided to successfully passed candidates that will display his technical competence, quality and excellence. Mr Hussain also declared that it have been decided by all members that they have to set up IIBD welfare fund to assist the building designers as well as construction workers in their causalities. Beside, It has also appealed that all building designers must have inspire to others building designers and construction workers for taking their accidental insurance policies and to open Public provident fund account. along with them. Mainly Er. Anupam Srivastava, Er. Vivek Kapoor, Er. Akhilesh Srivastava, Er. Anil Verma, Umesh Prakash Prakash Srivastava, and Mohammed Rehan Khan etc. have participated in this annual meeting. Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) Translation of "Saraswati-Ratn" Honor (Translation: Gem of Goddess Saraswatee) in 2009 by Hindi Sahitya Parishad (Translation: Hindi Literature Council) in the field of Hindi poetry. Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) Translation of "Abhiyantran-Shree" honor (Translation: Rich in engineering)in 2007 by Bhartiya Manvadhikar Association (Translation: Indian Human-right Association) in the field of architectural EngineeringSpjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) English Translation: of This poem "Ek Mazdoor ka dansh" -A labor's bite- Something we all suffer silently We never afraid of hard work Our labor is precious, brother Why work for free made Why do say ugly abuse Why do we say slacker Half the bread in our home All the meat in your part Destined to poverty but enjoying fast Our death is cheapest Until our exploitation will Until then you must nurture Your right to education No one supported us Whenever we must educate All your organs must cry.Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC) following more citations were also added. This Scanned Image: of Indira Gandhi Priydarshine Award This Scanned image: Certificate of Indira Gandhi Priydarshini Award This Scanned image: Letter of approval for the Indira Gandhi Priydarshini Award This Scanned image: Letter to delivery of that award This Scanned image: of the registration of the Indian Institute of Building Designers Association.Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:16, 16 February 2010 (UTC) This scanned image 1 of a designed project name: Regency Degree college Reseora This scanned image 2 of a designed project name: Regency Degree college Reseora This scanned image 3 of a designed project name: Regency Degree college Reseora (during construction) This scanned image 4 of a designed project name: Regency Degree college Reseora (during construction) This scanned image 5 of a designed project name: Regency Degree college Reseora (during construction) This scanned image 6 of a designed project name: Regency Degree college Reseora (landscape work) This scanned image 7 of a designed project name: Regency Degree college Reseora (landscape work) This scanned image 8 of a designed project name: Regency Degree college Reseora (landscape work) This scanned image of residence of Mr. Anis Mirza at Tareen pur This scanned image of residence of Mr. Anis Mirza at Tareen pur (during construction) This scanned image of redidence of Mr. Avadhesh Verma at Civil Lines This scanned image of redidence of Mr. Anoop Agrawal at agrawal colony near 2 Bn. PAC This scanned image of redidence of Mr. Suraj Verma at Naimish Puram (during construction) This scanned image 1 of redidence of Mr. Suraj Verma at Naimish Puram (during construction) This scanned image of building of Jaswir Singh at civil lines This Scanned Image News: A Seminar on concrete roads projests This Professional website of Ambarish Srivastava This Blog of Ambarish srivastava This specialization page at website of Ambarish Srivastava This popularity of web site oa Ambarish Srivastava This Scanned Image of 'Abhiyantran Shree' Honor This Scanned image of the certificate of 'Abhiyantran Sree' Honor This Scanned image of 'Saraswatee Ratn' Honor This Scanned image of certificate of Saraswatee Ratn Honor This Ambarish Srivastava on rancor.com in the list of notable poets on sl. no.-41 This Scanned image of American Society of Civil Engineers 'ASCE' membership certificate This Scanned image of Architectural Engineering Institute 'AEI' membership certificate This Scanned image of Indian Roads Congress membership letter This Scanned image of Indian Buildings Congress membership letter This Scanned image of the Indian Society for Technical Education Membership certificate This Scanned image of the Indian Institution of Bridge Engineers Certificate of Fellowship This Scanned news 'Building Designers Association constituted' This Scanned news 'Annual Meeting of the Building Designers Association' This Scanned news 'meeting of IIBD members' This Scanned image of the certificate of course on the seismic design of steel structures from IIT Kanpur This Scanned image of the certificate of course on the seismic design of bridges from IIT Kanpur This Scanned image of the certificate of course on the seismic evaluation and strengthening of buildings from IIT Kanpur This Scanned image of the certificate of course on the seismic design of masonry buildings from IIT Kanpur This Published poems of Ambarish Srivastava at Anubhuti of (UAE) This Published poems of Ambarish Srivastava at Swargvibha (Mumbai) This Introduction of Ambarish Srivastava at Sahitya Shilpee

Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

The sources you have provided prove that Ambarish Srivastava passes Wikipedia:Notability (people). I agree with DGG's advice here. You should remove the primary sources from the article so that only secondary reliable sources remain. Cunard (talk) 22:51, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks a lot! I am grateful for your kind support. Do you mean removal of external links as primary sources? Although Mr. DGG has already edited this article.Spjayswal67 (talk) 23:24, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

• You're welcome, good work on this article! The issues I have with the sources are unreliable source or primary sources such as reference #18 (http://www.ambarishsrivastava.com/), which is the subject's own website, and references #19 (http://kaviambarishsrivastava.wordpress.com/) and #32 (http://www.sahityashilpi.com/2010/01/blog-post_24.html). Such sources are not sufficient for verifiability purposes, so when there are reliable sources, it is best to use those instead. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 01:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
• Thanks a lot! I have removed primary sources as per your suggestion.Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:07, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
• Thanks a lot again. I am encouraged now for which i am grateful to you and i appreciate your work which is without prejudice. Really you are a great person.Spjayswal67 (talk) 05:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

• I am humbled by your kind words, but the advice I gave you is nothing compared to the hours of sourcing and expanding you did. The hard work you have put into Ambarish Srivastava has finally paid off. Congratulations! Thank you for maintaining hope when your contributions were deleted, for the poise you demonstrated throughout the deletion review, and for your valuable additions to Wikipedia! Best, Cunard (talk) 10:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks again for your valuable advice. As per yor advice, I have provide a reference which is same as reference no-7 Which translation is:
• 1. This News Title : Ambarish Indira Gamdhi Priyadarshini Award se Sammanit [Ambarish honored to Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award]: p. 04. 2007-12-07.

Name of Newspaper :“Dainik Jagran” , Lucknow , 07 December 2007 | Page 4| Sitapur Ambarish honored to Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award (Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award to Amberish) Sitapur, 6 December Here's Architectural engineer Ambarish Srivastava have been awarded the Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award. The honor of Award on behalf of National Unity Conference has been posted to him. Mr. Srivastava was not found to receive honor at Delhi due to became Injured. He was invited by the National Unity Conference to receive this award at constitutional club Rafi Marg, New Delhi, he was to be provided this award the same day in the award ceremony but he was injured in a road accident on 11 October 2007 . He received the award recently through post office. Resistant to Sitapur ,Architectural engineer Ambarish Srivastava, particularly work in the field of earthquake resistant construction and design than work for the welfare of workers. For these actions he received this honor. Spjayswal67 (talk) 18:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

• Good work! Cunard (talk) 22:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks to encourage me. I am grateful to you! I have noticed a red colored name Danik Jagranin the 'social work' section at article Ambarish Srivastava. I have made a citation no- 35 for it. what should i do to remove this red color.Spjayswal67 (talk) 08:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

• The red link was due to a misspelling. I have corrected the link from Danik Jagran to Dainik Jagran. Cunard (talk) 19:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks a lot. I am humbled for it. Spjayswal67 (talk) 13:04, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Admin?

Would you like to be nominated for adminship? You seem to take part in AfDs and DRVs a lot, and have the required experience plus clue. Pcap ping 04:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the offer and the expression of confidence but I do not wish to be an admin for the reasons I provided at User talk:Cunard/Archive 5#Supplication, User talk:Cunard/Archive 2#RFA, and User talk:Cunard/Archive 4#You are not admin. In any case, I am working on Middlesex (novel) right now, so the administrative tools would distract me from expanding the article and working on some other topics. Instead of writing a nomination statement, would you take a look at the article? I could use some help with making it flow better. Copyediting or pointing out any disjointed parts would be much appreciated. :) Cunard (talk) 08:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Anne Aghion

Hey Cunard, I just wanted to give you a heads up that we have now received permission for the material you from the Anne Aghion article earlier. The talk page page has been [tagged] and I'll let the editor know as well. James (T|C) 18:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying me. After reverting the addition of copyrighted content, I expanded the article using secondary reliable sources, so I don't think the filmmaker's website will have other useful information that can be added to the article. I note that you wrote in your edit summary on the talk page, "permission received for http://www.icepeople.com/filmmakers.html (text only)". Since the copyright holder contacted you, would you ask them if they are willing to release any photos of Anne Aghion under the Creative Commons license? I'm thinking about pictures such as this one. And if the people who own the rights to images on icepeople.com own the rights to those on anneaghionfilms.com, this picture would be pretty good too. Cunard (talk) 23:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the slow response, I had actually seen the response but hadn't replied yet because I was trying to talk with a couple other agents ( I just started). I was wanting to respond with a more final answer but took longer then I expected (would have responded right away with a, I'll get back to you, if I'd known). I've sent Ms. Aghion an email to see if she would be willing to release some of her images and I'll let you know what I hear! Let me know if you need anything else. James (T|C) 09:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

No worries with taking time to do things right. It's better to approach things slowly and correctly than quickly and erroneously. Thank you for volunteering your time to OTRS and for asking Ms. Aghion to release her images to an acceptable license. I hope we can brighten up that article with a good image! Cheers, Cunard (talk) 04:46, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

AN/I

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Thanks

Thanks for the troll-removal at my Talk page. -- Boing! said Zebedee 19:35, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 19:35, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Miranda Uhl

I can provide proof that Miranda goes to SFCHS. I go to school with her. By the way,, I'm not sockpuppeting. Keep your accusations to yourself. Thank you.--Johncoracing48 (talk) 00:06, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

You must provide a reliable source that verifies that Miranda Uhl attends St. Francis Catholic High School. Original research is not allowed in Wikipedia, especially for a WP:BLP. Your going to school with her is not enough to verify this piece of information. Has a newspaper written about Miranda Uhl attending SFCHS?

The evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Johncoracing48 speaks for itself. Cunard (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I will tell you once and for all that I am not sockpuppeting. Kingtut601 is one of my friends but he is not me. He writes on the same articles as I do because we share the same interest. For example, the Rusty Baker as in the article that we both fought for is his father and my employer. That is why we write on similar things. I do not appreciate that you accused me of this before asking me if I did it in the first place. As for Miranda, I have no idea if their is an article that specifically states that she attends SFCHS. You may search for one if you wish. Also, you could email SFCHS for a record of her attendence at the school. Their wensite is sfchs.org.--Johncoracing48 (talk) 01:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

What you have described above is meatpuppetry, which is forbidden on Wikipedia. If you are innocent of sockpuppetry, you do not need to worry, since a checkuser will confirm whether you have been using multiple accounts.

As for Miranda Uhl, I have found this document from sfchs.org which verifies that she attends the school. I have restored the information and added the source. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you sir!

Thanks :-) OlYeller^Talktome 05:08, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Nice to see you actively editing again! Cunard (talk) 05:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

/* Copyright violation */ -moving copyright material

Thanks for the input, made response on my user page. working on process of bringing over donated materials we own.

Thanks Maquiguy (talk) 04:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Cunard (talk) 04:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

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Page deletion

Hello there,

Frank Groff Inc. has been requested directly by the director of marketing of Lazy Dog Cafe to change the content on this entry according to what we already have written for them on their press kits/bio etc. Please understand and need to sort something out accordingly. We can work out some form of verification.

Thanks,

Sean Quetulio Frank Groff Inc. 3730 E. Broadway Long Beach, CA 90803 (562) 491-1000 http://www.frankgroffinc.com

Follow us on Twitter! http://www.twitter.com/frankgroffinc.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankGroffInc (talk • contribs) 16:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Frank. To solve the copyright issue, please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already online for more information about releasing the website's text to Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY-SA) and the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL).

I undid the changes you made because they were not neutral and thus violated Wikipedia's Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy. The text at http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Lazy_Dog_Cafe&diff=prev&oldid=353061913 is unencyclopedic because the menu and the list of locations violate WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Though some of the information is unusable, some can be integrated into the article. Remember to keep in mind Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view when you edit the article. Best of luck, Cunard (talk) 22:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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