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Hi, thank you for adding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Davidge to the various AFD lists. Tell me, please, should I have done that myself when I raised the AFD or is it an administrative function? If it is my responsibility then I apologise but I'm still on the learning curve here. It certainly seems to be a good way of advertising the presence of the AFD. Thanks very much. Ziggy (talk) 15:06, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
hi Ziggy (thanks for the thanks:)), anybody, including the nominator, can add an afd to a list, its not compulsory to do so but its nice to involve as many editors that may have an interest in the subject area especially as they may have expertise in that area and access to sources that we do not, usually one of the regulars, like myself, will add them to list(s) within a day or two, so there is nothing to worry about if you dont. ps. if there isnt an afd list for a subject a notification can be left on a wikiproject/workgroup talkpage ie. there isn't a specific list for darts players (although sportspeople list would be okay), so a note could be left on the darts wikiproject talkpage, btw, there is a subsection: "After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors" towards the bottom of WP:AFD that discusses this, all the best. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:48, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Coolabahapple, that's very useful. One more step up the learning curve, I think! By the way, I'm delighted to see that there is a project for cats and I should certainly think of joining it to see if I can learn something that will help me to provide better service for a certain member of our family Ziggy (talk) 16:04, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
A problem on the Patrick White (Australian novelist page)
Hi Coolabahapple. I noticed you recently edited this page, and thought you might perhaps have the expertise to correct the error which places the kindergarten "Sandtoft" on the North Shore in Woollahra. I know nothing whatsoever about this, except that if Woollahra is correct, then North Shore is not, while if North Shore is correct, then Woollahra is not. (I have no access to the reference and hence cannot fix the error.) If you can fix this, or know someone who can, that would be great. MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:41, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
hi MargaretRDonald, sorry but ive been crook the last few days and have been unable to wikianything, i see that others have corrected the error, writing about the problem on White's talkpage was a great idea, thanks heaps for improving WP:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 05:29, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello! My name is Mary, and I am a college student in UC Berkeley learning to use Wikipedia. For our assignment, we were given the task of writing an article pertaining to Civic Technologies, and I chose to write about Phandeeyar - a company founded by David Madden. I saw that you made some edits to Madden's article and was wondering if you'd have the time to possibly look over my draft in my sandbox? I referenced him in my article, and I wanted to get some input about what I've written so far. It would be much appreciated.
I appreciate your response and help! I'll try to look at the other sources in the projects as guidelines for bettering my outline. Much thanks! Mary Mijares (talk) 08:42, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
wow and possible suggestion
Thank you for your relentless attempt to try to catch up on Australian tags and all
when adding them - you could always remove the engvar brit - have you considered archiving your talk page - its a tad long - :) JarrahTree07:41, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
hi JarrahTree, no probs i enjoy checking the articles while im relaxing, re archival ive added cluebot to the top, have i done it right? - im not very computer savvy. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:55, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Greetings. Without much reason except perhaps time wasting I looked up you user page and came across your adventures in AfD-land. I was struck by the absurdity of the discussion in the AfD about Irlam (1813 ship), in particular the arguments advanced by Acad Ronin, certainly in good faith, where that editor (a) entirely rewrites the purpose of Wikipedia, in his pointillism reference, and then (b) asserts that "all ships are notable," which they aren't. Very funny and not a little sad. -The Gnome (talk) 16:52, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Actually, the WP Project ships does view all ships over 100 tons (not defined) as intrinsically notable. As for the pointilism metaphor, if one is trying to learn about shipping in the 18h and 19th centuries, whaling, the trans Atlantic slave trade, the British East India Company's trade, convict transport to Australia, and the like, categories of vessels have to have content. Furthermore, there are many books that focus on roles, but only WP ship articles give one the opportunity to see the variety of trajectories as vessels moving between categories and roles as owners acted entrepreneurially in responding to different opportunities, etc. There is a lot to be said for not defining WP's role too restrictively. Acad Ronin (talk) 17:10, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Well, practically by definition, any kind of project, and that includes WikiProjects, is bound to take an inordinate interest on its subject. The point is that what a WP might find notable (i.e. interesting), Wikipedia itself might not. And this is evident in Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, especially now that they've tightened up considerably as regards the creation of articles.
Don't take me wrong. I admire very much the scholarship and the dedication of practically every WikiProject. However, I've found that there's a tendency, a risk if you like, of a bias forming in WPs' participants, towards their subject, born out of affection. And, to come round to my original point, this is brought into relief especially in AfDs. As to Wikipedia's "role," I believe in its organic, continuous progress. There used to be very few rules; we now perforce have many more. That's because we need them on the basis of numbers alone. And we're doing rather well, I think. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 18:47, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
yup it is easy to be conned, and best to try to get a sense of where to go with socks and afds - it is murky world that one JarrahTree14:41, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
thanks JarrahTree, i thought the afd was a funny one with lots of new editors/ips piling in, especially as the book concerned had only been released a couple of days before the article being made, but i remembered the support i received from some editors when i started editing WP, my afd comment reflected that, again thanks, i will continue to traverse the fascinating wikiregion that is afd:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 14:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
In between non answering/non communicative editors and agonisingly weird edits in places, afd regions are/ is indeed a strange place JarrahTree15:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
I have a drawer with clean socks. Ι've found that placing a bit of lavandula in 'em keeps the moths away and the socks intact. Beyond housekeeping, I have no other interest in socks. Go away and mend yourself. -The Gnome (talk) 10:35, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
endless thanks
for venturing into the recesses weird and wonder inspiring in the oz project - your efforts are appreciated JarrahTree07:47, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Hey! Appreciate your work on the AUEnglish/dmy tags in oz articles and occasionally when I stumble over to AfD ;)
Wondering if there were any tools or something you use(d) to distinguish Australian articles that didn't yet have those tags? Just thought if so, it might be useful for doing other things as well. Nat965 (talk) 09:00, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
hi Nat965, nope, i just choose an oz project from the table at the OZ 5000 challenge (i started with the smallest project, and am presently up to OZ law), bring up the project's article list, and open each article in edit mode to see if it has them and add them if appropriate/required. i am sure there would be an easier/quicker way to do this but i don't mind doing it:) Coolabahapple (talk) 15:36, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
*presents trout as requested* So, read your comment in the ongoing saga of DELETE EVERYTHING CRAYOLA. I think it's a little bit unfair for editors to hit me with WP:BLUDGEON when I'm trying to defend four separate articles (out of six) from deletion, mostly against the same editors raising the same points that don't actually apply, as well as a number of randoms raising policies that also don't apply. AfD's have to be decided on the basis of actual policies, not what people wish policies said. I realize that I could try to respond to several people's remarks in one reply, but that would take just as much space, and individual issues could get lost. But what's truly unfair is to take a debate that's died down for five days, reopen it with a flurry of policies that are being misapplied, and then use WP:BLUDGEON to suggest that I'm not allowed to respond. That's far more bludgeony than replying to individual comments, IMO. It takes four words to say, "this is all WP:OR", or five words to say, "there are no reliable sources", but it takes full paragraphs to demonstrate that it's not original research and that the sources are reliable. So precisely how am I supposed to defend an article from deletion when people cite policies that don't apply and get their facts wrong? Yesterday's debate was rekindled with the argument, "here are all the policies being violated, therefore this page must go. And you're not allowed to argue that I'm wrong because policy." I really think that's applying WP:BLUDGEON to prevent open and honest discussion, which isn't what it's for. P Aculeius (talk) 14:03, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
I wanted to drop by and say "Thanks" for adding my first discussion for deletion to some appropriate categories (here) and wanted to ask (for the sake of improving myself as an editor) how you did that? Is there a guide or tool you could reference me to?
hi Elfabet, i went to the appropriate deletion sorting list (there is a category called "Wikipedia deletion sorting" that lists all of them), and added the afd, there are a number of wikiscripts some editors use to help in this, including User:Enterprisey/delsort, but i just do it manually. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:25, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
ta for the checking out the prisons tags and updates - there is a hilarious story about that but not on wiki unfortunately. so ta. JarrahTree08:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Coolabahapple, I wanted to ask if you might be interested in the page title change I proposed, for the current Caramel shortbread, to change to "Caramel slice" to reflect the name more commonly used. As we're both in Australia I'm interested to know if you agree with my commentary around popularity here? Thank you for your time! SunnyBoi (talk) 04:35, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
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See you're an editor (I'm not an I don't care for WP much, TBH). I've added some data to the talk page that might help improve it a bit. Particularly that the narrative "schoolgirl does project, gets woke about GMO" is utter BS. Her daddy is in the industry and she's a player, not an activist. Maybe and even probably a puppet but that's not for me to say. I'm too close to the problem to be unbiased but the article needs review and revision, urgently! Smidoid (talk) 00:20, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Coolabahapple,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that
Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"
My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk18:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
perhaps a more gnome thanks - for all your oz project stuff, and have a good christmas and all... (no colour or bells or whistles) JarrahTree11:43, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Coolabahapple, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia,
Hi Coolabahapple, I have a bit of disappointing news .... it's not snowy here either :(, We get frost at night here and there but I think that's the closest to snow as we're gonna get unfortunately, Then again this is the UK so no doubt in February we'll have a blizzard! . –Davey2010Merry Christmas / Happy New Year23:26, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
I started editing Wikipedia more frequently around this time last year. I can positively say that without the support and encouragement from a handful of Australians (and your kitten pics!), who knows what I would be doing. Clicking the log out button and moving onto another hobby perhaps. Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year, Coolabahapple! Nat965 (talk) 21:04, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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thanks Chris troutman and ReaderofthePack! hope you have had a great festive season so far, i don't think i have overindulged as i can still balance Lappie with not too many problems, although with new year celebs still to go.....oh well, may need to double up at the gym/powerwalking. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:40, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
wow Northamerica1000, thanks for all the white fluffy stuff (it has been hitting the mid 30sC (90sF) over the last week so its great to have cool pikkies to look at (shouldn't complain as it hasnt quite hit 100F (yet:)), (my cooling device, a fan with a frozen bottle of water in front of it doesnt quite cut it, may have to get an aircon one of these days:)) ps. love the cats pikkie, from A Book of Cheerful Cats and Other Animated Animals by J.G. Francis, a great little book 1st published in the 1890s. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:37, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
There's more from the book, check out this page, which is linked from the Commons page for the cats image. Regarding A/C, there are some ways to make one's own air conditioner. Check out this search. Well, stay cool, and have a cool New Year as well! North America100002:49, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
User: Sangdeboeuf has tagged consensus to keep but then soon after reverted to reinstate an edit you made which included a notice for deletion, without stating why. Checking with you before rolling the edit back as seems at the moment to be an error by User: Sangdeboeuf. Did you raise any objections or is there anything else I should be aware of before making the change? Mrspaceowl (talk) 19:48, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank for the confirmation Coolabahapple. I'll give it a little while and then remove the deletion notice once it's clear there are no further objections to the article's existence. Mrspaceowl (talk) 18:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
maybe
[1] the conversation there about geography also goes where I might drift down the rabbit hole into eternity on the subject of adding cities to anything in the NT - see my edit [2] therein lies the rub and the nub of such things, I could wax, lyrically perhaps, on the subject - but hopefully the diffs provided offer sufficient entertainment - but then there is always beeswax and salt and surf etc.
I could always be wrong in all of this, but as with the late douglas adams's preoccupation with improbability, and heisenberg with certainty - and its opposite- I shall say I I am a heisenbergian adamsite on the matter - JarrahTree10:22, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Coolabahapple! You created a thread called Article on Bashkardi people? at Wikipedia:Teahouse, but it has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please create a new thread.
There were no responses. Did you get answers elsewhere? It doesn't matter what Google says because this sounds like the kind of information that can be found in books, and if you can find it, that might be enough.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:57, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
just to let you know
I personally hate banner shells with a passion... just in case you need to know...
In many cases it makes hard for a reader to see assessment issues without having to open things...
assessment can also be missed when banners close things up... JarrahTree08:10, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
no big deal I am but a blip on the radar and insignificant idiot from the west and dont worry keep doing it if you so wish, just in case you ever see me revert one in frustration... :) JarrahTree09:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
I can smell the start of a childrens story for my grandchildren about the shells that help and the shells that might be otherwise... JarrahTree09:20, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
whoo - not sure where or what was happening just there [3] - trust all is well in the marbles department - mind you I do much worse... JarrahTree00:54, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
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While I take your point, take a look at the edit history of author's other books Cloud Boy (page as created [4], Pablo's Inferno (page when created [5]), and at author Rhode Montijo's page when first created: [6]. It looks to me like this midlist author logs in, creates newbie-looking pages for his books, himself, makes some other edits, and disappears. It's fairly harmless, I mean, it's not like he's editing to persuade readers that measles vaccines are dangerous. Just, I'm not as sure as you are that it's a naive user.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Great work on the T.H. article. We cannot save them all, but we can do our best to research the topic and show notability. Lightburst (talk) 03:46, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Reviews
Showing notability for a book by quoting reviews in reliable sources is excellent. But please, excerpt them. Use as little of the original text as you can. See how I did it here ? DS (talk) 19:00, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi CA! I would like to change the title, which you created, of "Category:Australian seascape painters", (of which there is currently just the one member, Alfred Coleman (artist)) to "Category:Australian marine artists" for the following reasons:
1. To correspond with similar subs of "Category:Marine artists by country"
2. To encompass model ship sculptors, one of whom I'm working on at the moment.
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This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true.
No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well C. MarnetteD|Talk04:15, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Merry Christmas, Coolabahapple! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969TT me11:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Coolabahapple, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia this past year, –Davey2010talk18:02, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
(My sincere apologies you were indeed on my Xmas list this year so have absolutely no idea why you wasn't sent one so my apologies for that, Hope you and yours have a lovely Crimbo and a very Happy and Healthy New Year :), Take care, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk18:17, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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The Adventures of Abdi by IndianBio
When Megan Went Away by Collin
. –Davey2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 23:26, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
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FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:20, 23 December 2019 (UTC)