User talk:Cahk/Archive 17

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Happy New Year, Cahk!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

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Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

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Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

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Álvaro Esquivel

Hello. Could you spell check this article Álvaro Esquivel. Thanks--GeogieTax (talk) 08:05, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

@GeogieTax: "Who has gained won the best trick trophy " ... I think you meant "he won the best trick trophy"? Cahk (talk)

Hi, I don't speak English well, maybe I got confused GeogieTax (talk) 08:09, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Could you help me with revising my writing well? Please GeogieTax (talk) 08:10, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

@GeogieTax: I've fixed that section for you. Cahk (talk)

Thanks! GeogieTax (talk) 08:18, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention

Hi, Cahk. Users such as User:Raysvfx should be reported to Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention, not to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. I believe I've asked you to use WP:UAA for promotional accounts before, to no effect. Please start doing it. It works better that way. Bishonen | tålk 11:01, 25 February 2023 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Maybe my search result is not that great, but as far as I am concerned, you left me a message in 2015 (i.e. 8 years ago). Another admin followed up in 2017 User_talk:Cahk/Archive_11#UAA_Reports. From that point forward, I don't believe we have interacted beyond one or two messages I've left on your talk page. In the last 6 years (i.e. since 2017), there have been 2 other admins (from my recollection) that brought up this issue which I reiterated my discussion in 2017 and left it at that. Are you recalling differently? Cahk (talk)

My recollection is that when I explained the advantages of using the appropriate noticeboard in 2015, you did not reply. From your discussion with Beeblebrox that you link to, I gather that you prefer to use AIV for everything because admins kept bugging you about the way you used UAA? Oh well. I can understand that must be annoying. Bishonen | tålk 20:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC).

@Bishonen: The bigger issue for me is one admin will say warn first, another will say UAA, then another will say AIV is fine. There is absolutely zero consensus because it is so factually dependent and admin dependent. I've resorted to doing it via AIV and let whoever it is decide what they want to do because I am tired of the ad nauseam discussion that creeps up every few years.Cahk (talk)

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

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Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

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Hello,

Did i get speedily deletion cause i used some photo from dalle? If so i am so sorry and i have removed them.

thank you,

sincerely

Ludwig. Ludwig Eisenstein (talk) 08:45, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

@Ludwig Eisenstein: It was tagged for speedily deletion because the material is not Wikipedia related. It appears to be a description of a self-made micronation that is not notable or otherwise for Wikipedia. As the page is now tagged for the 3rd time, I'd suggest that you do not re-create the page again until you read the messages on your talk page. Continuously re-creating a deleted page may lead to sanction. --Cahk (talk) 09:43, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

And How does some of the micronations works and mine doesn't. Like these Freetown Christiania, Namiseom#Naminara Republic, ,Kingdom of EnenKio. Ludwig Eisenstein (talk) 11:08, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

@Ludwig Eisenstein: You may wish to review Wikipedia:Notability. Your page was tagged by 2 separate editors and deleted by 2 separate administrators, which meant 4 separate pairs of eyes (on 6 different occasions) have reviewed the page to determined it was not meeting the Wikipedia standards. --Cahk (talk) 20:50, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Dr. nelson Aluya Page delition

we have recently published our article, waiting for review, only to see it deleted by you. we are kindly requesting to get briefed on what to do. however, we read about what is called Conflict of Interest. thank you in anticipation of youur expedious reply Sulaiman Ahmad Muazu (talk) 17:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

@Sulaiman Ahmad Muazu: Firstly, I am not an administrator so I cannot "delete" pages. While I can nominate pages to be deleted, I have checked my deletion log and your talk page, and it does not appear we have any interaction in the last few months as nomination automatically trigger a notice to the talk page of the creator. As such, I think you have mistaken me for someone else. --Cahk (talk) 19:41, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

yes it is mistake Sulaiman Ahmad Muazu (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hi - I just happened upon User_talk:Materialscientist#User:Gabri020g. Apologies if you get asked this a lot, but why you no admin? Girth Summit _(blether) 18:09, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Back in 2018, I took part in the RFA poll and had many individuals swinging against me despite many admins have asked me to consider RFA. While I continue to be here, my involvement will be decreasing over time. The majority (if not all) of anti-spam editors I have worked with over the past have all retired from Wikipedia. It is unfortunate straight forward tasks such as AIV on spambots are still be discussed ad nauseum by administrators who view our actions as "heavy handed". --Cahk (talk) 07:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Hmm. When you report spambots to AIV, do you include a link to a page documenting the behaviour or something like that? In the case mentioned in that thread I linked to, I can imagine a patrolling admin at AIV not recognising the behaviour and declining to block, but if there was something to show the pattern I'd have thought it would be obvious to anyone. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:39, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: The spambot has been actively monitored for over 10 years. As noted in my reply to that thread, NTSAMR is linked on the Wiki page since 2018. Previously I had admins throwing cold water at me for not reviewing policies. The same can be said in this case and I don't have the time nor energy to keep going back and forth. This sentiment is not mine alone. I had one particularly nasty spambot and I resorted to RPP to block the behavior (which was turned down because the person did not view it as serious despite the pages were deleted 10 times over by other admin). This is pure madness and is increasing the amount of anti-vandalism work needed to be done. --Cahk (talk) 20:42, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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Apology

I'm so sorry, I just accidentally blocked you momentarily. I was actually trying to block the person you had just given a warning to. I've fixed it already but I wanted you to know. Deb (talk) 08:14, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

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https://www.digitalspy.com/music/a803533/michelle-heaton-officially-joined-atomic-kitten/

https://aaabackstage.com/interview-michelle-heaton-atomic-kitten/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7x5joDAJ4M

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Sources of Michelle Heaton as Member of Atomic Kitten

https://www.digitalspy.com/music/a803533/michelle-heaton-officially-joined-atomic-kitten/

https://aaabackstage.com/interview-michelle-heaton-atomic-kitten/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7x5joDAJ4M

https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/michelle-heaton-joins-atomic-kitten-116080500138_1.html 2600:1700:4CA1:4B0:BD77:6266:5E77:8A30 (talk) 09:58, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

I would really suggest you learn to read the sources you are relying on to make the edits. Beyond the fact the sources do not back up what is stated (i.e. joining for one show, and the person clearly indicated she is just a substitute member), you are continuously using multiple IPs and accounts to make the edits, which is against Wikipedia rules.

https://www.digitalspy.com/music/a803533/michelle-heaton-officially-joined-atomic-kitten/

Your source states: "Performing a one-off gig in Melbourne on July 23"

https://aaabackstage.com/interview-michelle-heaton-atomic-kitten/

I understand you’re taking Liz’s place for the international shows, but are you now a permanent member of Atomic Kitten? No, I don’t think so"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7x5joDAJ4M

Again, your source states for one show only.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/michelle-heaton-joins-atomic-kitten-116080500138_1.html

Performing a one-off gig in Melbourne on July 23"

--Cahk (talk) 07:46, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

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Deletion of User page User:Aparna DS/Sandbox

Hi Cahk,

Regarding tagging the user Aparna DS/Sandbox page for speedy deletion and deleting my draft article - I was using my sandbox to create a draft article that i was working on to contribute to wikipedia (which i understand has a lot of back log of articles to be reviewed and published) I would like to get my article back to modify and resubmit. Also my understanding is that the sandbox is a place to work on the articles to improve before submitting and i am not sure what i am missing here which lead to the speedy deletion of my draft.

Thanks,

Aparna

Aparna DS (talk) 08:56, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Aparna DS: I unfortunately have no recollection of what your page was about, nor could I restore the page. You may wish to check-in with @Fastily:, who was the admin who deleted the page.--Cahk (talk) 10:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Creation

Can i create a wiki page for like my family members with their permission. Or, it is against the Wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you. Ludwig Eisenstein (talk) 15:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ludwig Eisenstein: The issue isn't about their "permission", it's a question of notability. In general, it's highly not advisable to create articles on people you are related to. If they are truly notable, someone else will come along and add them to Wikipedia.--Cahk (talk) 07:59, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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