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Your submission at Articles for creation: Tim Grayson (poet) (November 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Twitter, IMDb and his own website are not suitable sources for establishing any notability.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 11:34, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Blackjackm1990! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 11:34, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Hi, we talked in the IRC help chat a bit ago. Just wanted to notify you that the relevant parties have been informed and are working on it. On a tangential note: Thanks for being transparent and adding the COI disclosure to the Draft; those should go on article talk pages however – I've fixed that for you, see Special:Permalink/990773622 :). Also, templates need to be inserted without <nowiki> tags around them, otherwise they render as plain text. Please feel free to drop a note on my talk page (or click the "e-mail this user" button in the sidebar while viewing my userpage) if there's anything I can help you with, be it related to editing questions or the off-wiki matters. Best wishes, Blablubbs ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for everything Blablubbs, you're one of the most helpful people I've encountered on here, and I really appreciate it. I'm just compiling more references for that page now - it's hard as so much is via the Wayback Machine archive, and that's notoriously difficult to navigate without a direct link, but I'll get there. Thanks again. Blackjackm1990 ^(talk) 09:14, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tim Grayson (poet) (November 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Spicy was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I am not seeing anything here that would indicate notability according to Wikipedia's general notability guidelines or guidelines for creative professionals. Blogs and self-published websites, social media posts, and IMDB are user-generated content without editorial oversight and thus are not considered to be reliable or to contribute to notability (in fact, they generally shouldn't be used in biographies of living persons at all. Some sources don't even mention the subject. The Independent is a reliable source, but in this case it does not really demonstrate notability because the sum total of its coverage of Grayson is a quote from him; it is not significant coverage. The Leicester Today sources, though adequately reliable, and arguably significant coverage, are purely local. Local newspapers often write about local characters and this isn't necessarily indicative of importance outside their immediate area. Wikipedia is a global encyclopedia so in-depth coverage of a subject's life and/or work from prominent media or scholarly sources is what is needed to show that someone is notable.

I note that the entirety of the changes made to this draft prior to the most recent submission consist of the addition of a COI disclosure (which is appreciated, but has nothing to do with the subject's notability) and a change to one of the references' titles. [1] Repeatedly resubmitting the draft without making substantial changes to address the concerns raised is likely to frustrate reviewers and may result in the draft being rejected or nominated for deletion.

As I stated before I do not see anything that would indicate that the subject satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. There are wikis with less stringent criteria on notability and promotion than Wikipedia, such as EverybodyWiki and Everipedia. These might be a viable alternative if you wish to have this page published.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Tim Grayson (poet) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Tim Grayson (poet), click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Spicy (talk) 15:35, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your thread has been archived

Hi Blackjackm1990! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, External editors needed to refute COI, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days (usually at least two days, and sometimes four or more). You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to create a new thread.

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