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Hello, Arthur davtyan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Dany Georges, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted.

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There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article Dany Georges has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Dany Georges requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable Sources

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Arthur, I suspect you are flogging a dead horse unless you can provide a reliable source for Dany Georges. Please take a pace back from the article and take time to read the link. That way, even if the current article is deleted, you can work out how to make an article stick. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. It needs notable and verifiable facts from proper spurces.

Don't take this personally. We all get the first few things wrong. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dany Georges

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I truly can't see that this chap is notable. Your added reference is not what is classed as a reliable source, and nothing about him appears to have notability. He seems a decent chap in a limited field, but that isn't (probably) enough to make his article stick. Yes, the article is improved, but that improvement is, in my opinion, insufficient.

The important thing is that I am not the final arbiter of whether it stays or not. I have proposed it for deletion, but others make the final judgment call. What I suggest you do is to place the characters {{hangon}} on the article page and explain why you feel he is notable on the article discussion (talk) page. This is a weird community and the community makes decisions we do not always agree with. It can be a friendly or unpleasant community depending on the way one operates within it.

It may be that you chalk this one up to experience, edit a while in other articles to gain the skills you need, and then have another go at Dany, perhaps starting in User:Arthur davtyan/Dany Georges and working it into a fine article from there. It might be useful to create that page anyway and copy the current page over. Even if deleted, all is not lost. The admin who deletes it can do what I am suggesting above for you. All you have to do is to ask them. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 10:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is good advice and I recommend it. I'm the administrator who is about to delete this article, but I wanted you to know that I took the trouble to confirm the relevant standard for the notability of professional poker players. You can find that here; essentially, a single WSOP bracelet or a million dollars in winnings, OR sufficient media coverage in reliable sources to meet the general notability guideline. To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Georges doesn't meet this standard. If you want to contact the experts at Wikipedia:WikiProject Poker about the specific standard of notability, you can do so via the link in this sentence. If you have any questions about specific Wikipedia policy, or you wish the deleted material to be returned to as per the suggestion of Fiddle Faddle above, you can leave me a note by clicking on the word "talk" after my signature. Best of luck with your future contributions. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]