User talk:Angela/Archive16

>>User talk:Angela/Archive17

MC vote

Thanks for your support in my MC nomination. -- Mgm|^(talk) 20:20, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

No problem. :) Angela.

Concerned?

Hi again Angela,

Firstly, hope you are well. :)

Secondly, I hope not to bring a dispute here so I won't point any fingers or accuse anyone of any wrong doing here, please could you simply take a look here and add discussion if you feel you would like to.

All the best, Nick. Nick Boulevard 18:46, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This is a matter for due process via the pending RfC. Anything to be said can be said in the appropriate sections there. RayGirvan 19:21, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether RfC is going to resolve anything, but the Mediation Committee is basically inactive so it might be the best option for now. There is a new alternative, which is some sort of Mediation "Cabal" so you you might want to talk to them if you think they could help. Angela. 12:03, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

I would dearly love to see Andy Mabbett and Brumburger brought to the table in mediation, I am happy with that if it will help? Nick Boulevard 20:24, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image copyrights

Hello Angela! I've granted permission from UN Photo Department to use their photos here. With which image copyright tag should I tag these photos? I am not sure, cause of upcoming deleting campaign on "noncommercial" and "permission" photos. -- Darwinek 10:04, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Martin Redi from United Nations Photo Library wrote me this:

I can always send you the High Resolution jpg of your choice. We don't charge for posting in websites. We only ask for the proper credit (UN DPI/Photo (or name of photographer if you have it). Do you think I can use the Creative Commons-by license? -- Darwinek 12:32, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No. It's {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat|credit is given and copyright is attributed}}. See Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags. File:Helix84.jpg helix84 15:57, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't think it is CopyrightedFreeUse since they seem to want to restict the use to websites, so as soon as Wikipedia is distributed offline, this stops being an image we can freely use. See also my reply at User talk:Darwinek. Angela. 18:13, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Then just add the condition to the "provided that" part. What I do besides tagging an image with a license is include the text of permission on the image descrition page. You can't spoil anything with that. File:Helix84.jpg helix84 18:40, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Deletion policy for images on both Commons and another Wikipedia

I invite you to join a discussion about policy I proposed at Wikipedia_talk:Images_and_media_for_deletion#Deletion_policy_for_images_on_both_Commons_and_another_Wikipedia. If you know other wikipedians which are concerned, invite them, too. File:Helix84.jpg helix84 15:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. I've responded there. Angela. 18:13, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

I don't have experience with such discussions as I started, and I expected more editors will join and that we'll actually solve something. So far, there were good points raised, but nothing was solved. Since I'll have to take a longer holiday from regular Wikipedia editing, I'd like to ask you to try to watch this discussion for me and get something solved, if possible. I summarized all the problems I see in the proposal and you may gain more context by reading the links I listed there. Hope you'll do that for me, thanks. ~~helix84 01:24, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism

Back at ya. VeryVerily 20:15, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Request for an opinion

Hi there, as a member of the foundation, I thank you for all the good work that wikipedia does - it's a great tool. I wondered if you could glance at my user page, User talk:Leonig Mig, and note down your opinion about what has gone on in the last 24 hours. Personally I am starting to realise I am not thinking straight about this, the user in question has pushed all the wrong emotional buttons for me. Many Thanks, Leonig Mig 11:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This seems to be related to the #Concerned? section above, or is involving the same people anyway. All I can suggest is what I said above, about trying Mediation or informing the Mediation "Cabal" about the problem. Perhaps you, Nick, Ray and Andy could all discuss this with a mediator in order to try to come to sort of consensus on the articles currently causing these problems? Angela. 13:01, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

English usage

I know this is probably written down somewhere, but I don't have much time to look for it. An given, your reputation as a walking encyclopedia on wikipedia policy have a question for you. Is it acceptable to use a foreign language as the primary language on a public space on wikipedia? I know its alright on user talk, but what about the Wikipedia space? I am currently under the impression that English should be used as the primary language in all public spaces here. Thanks, in advace. (And thanks for supporting me for mediator!)-JCarriker 16:47, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Translation election statement

You're welcome! Good luck with the elections (although I don't think you actually need that, you've been doing great last year at the board!). Fruggo 19:40, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Three questions: images and categories

1. Is it possible or acceptable to upload scans of back covers for CDs, vinyl’s, DVDs, VHS, etc? I have found scans of album covers that have been lost for more than 20 years and I thought that I could upload some back covers of 250 pixels wide in JPEG format. I’m not saying to put these images on the article, but linked it on the description page of the front cover image.
   

In some cases, back covers have interesting graphics that could be helpful to complement the information provided. I’m not saying that I would upload images for each release I write about. So far I have in mind only two: Lunaire and Rokk í Reykjavík, what do you say?

1. I would also like to know how to categorized EPs. Some websites consider some EPs as singles. But here there are no categories for EPs. We have a category for singles, another for albums, etc. How should I consider them, just as singles? Once I know this, I would be able to link some articles.

1. Take at look at Dancer in the Dark. At the bottom of this article you can see a box with the movies by Lars von Trier. I need to have this kind of box for an Icelandic director named Friðrik Þór Friðriksson, so I thought that I could easily copy the format of that box, but I was wrong. It reads {{Footer_Movies_Lars_von_Trier}}, and I don’t know how to build one for Friðriksson with all his movies. I would be grateful if you could point me on the right direction.

Kind regards, Luis María Benítez 22:26, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thank you for the help

hallo Angela! thank you for the help with "virtual university" - I hope you like the motion and I invite you to discuss it with us - say hallo to Erik! you two are really driving this great project forward. Lets create some for academic teaching - viele Gruesse in die Heimat.

Uwe wants to share this with you (from his talk page): <message removed>

that feels good

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Antarctic krill/archive2

did you see who gave the picture of the day? take care Kils 23:58, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

I'd seen the picture of the day before since I'd added it to that template last July. :) Angela. 08:30, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

That was very nice - is it possible to see the nomination and discussion still somwhere? Uwe Kils 12:00, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

thank you for the fast reply - Wikipedia is fun!!! - best greetings across the ocean Uwe Kils 12:23, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

The move article

Well, I don't think it's any *less* a candidate for that namespace than, say, the article about the EB takeover... but certainly it just as well be at meta.
--Baylink 01:47, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The EB takeover page is in the project namespace though. Angela. 08:30, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Wikimedia Nederland

IRC chat 23 June 2005 22:00 CEST Wikimedia Nederland chapter

Angela, you are kindly invited to join an IRC chat 23 June 2005 22:00 CEST about the Wikimedia Nederland chapter on #nl.wikimedia. The chat will be to prepare the first meeting of nl.wikimedia.org on 3 July 2005 in Utrecht. Topics will include draft bylaws and specifically the statement of purpose. Gebruiker:Dedalus 07:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Angela. 08:30, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Admin for Tr.Wikipedia

Hi Angela, I know you made Volkan bureaucrat for Turkish Wikipedia but I cannot get in touch w/ him (he didn't get on the site for 3 overmonths now). I PM/emailed other admins and half didn't reply. I'd like you to review the admins for Turkish site and choose another bureaucrat (I suggest Özgür (User:Dbl2010)).

I also would like to be an admin, if you see fit as.

http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Y%C3%B6neticiler

Thanks, Citrat

replied at tr:User talk:Citrat. Angela. 05:18, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Angela, I'll do my best and will let you know if we can come up with a name for a bureaucrat candidate. (How can we get inactive admins out and what's the criteria?)

Thanks again, Citrat

Administratorship in Hungarian Wikipedia

Dear Angela!

An administrator, Nyenyec blocked me for 24h on 20 jun 13h, now it is 22 jun and he doen't show any purpose to aboish that. I would like to initiate his relay. The detailed facts are below:

• I'm an editor there with over three hundred own articles, an award what is equivalent with the Wikipedia Barnstar, and as you can see here, I'm working like a bot. So I can't be a vandal or like this.
• Nyenyec says that on his userpage his a deletionist and he has got a dream of Wikipedia, the most reliable lexikon. I'm an inclusionist, and have a lot of argument with him, and I was in his way for many times.
• Nyenyec blocked me because of injuring 3revert rule. As I could see in the page history and in the "What links here" page, this rule hadn'd been voted by anyone in hungarian Wikipedia, but it's so disputed (by User:Math). And I must remark this rule is a mania and an old desire of Nyenyec. He din't consult me (I think he injured the rules for administrators, because there is that "a pretious editor can be banned only after consulting and with woting"). I haven't got the slightest idea how the hell he thought that I directly injured 3revert. As I see, he is bossy. Three hungarian editor (hu:User:Cimbalom, hu:User:Mesüge, hu:User:Ant) left hungarian Wikipedia saying that operations of Nyenyec are awful. There is an active editor (hu:User:Math) who says the same. And there are two other editors (but they are commonly not "liked" users, someone say they are quasi-trolls: hu:User:Antifinnugor and hu:User:IGe).
• I ask you to
  • End blocking
  • To tell me how can I start relaying Nyenyec (I looked for the pages here, but did't find them)
  • Please tell me if I neeed to start a woting about relaying, or if an administrator was bossing, burocrats here (after discussing that) can put him down (I can't start a voting because of being blocked)?

PS. I wrote to Grin, the other administrator but he is busy in general and nowadays come rarely to Wikipedia. So if I waited for him it's possible I will be blocked for days further days, so If you can end blocking, please do that. PS II. I reverted some edits of a quasi-troll and militant anti-religionist, User:Ige on the page hu:Keresztény tudósok névsora (list of christian scientists). But I tried to talk with him on the talk page see here.

Thanks: Gubbubu 08:21, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Now it works, I can edit pages. Thank you: Gubbubu 15:10, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Angela, thanks for your help. We had some communication problems. Gubbubu should have contacted me here or via email about unblocking the autoblock. -- nyenyec ☎ 23:20, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gubbubu should't have. Gubbubu 29 June 2005 19:32 (UTC)

Something closely related to the above issue

Hello Angela! I know that currently you're busy with the elections and other stuff, but still, if you have some free time, I would be grateful if you could read this statement. Imperfect Commitment 29 June 2005 02:19 (UTC)

I've replied at User talk:Imperfect Commitment/AoHW. Angela.

RFMchat

(originally in the wrongly deleted {{Rfmchat}})

For quick communication between Mediators only Use the "edit" link to right of - and slightly above - the section header. Improv and Stevertigo have has room on their his plates. [1] [2] Who else has time to volunteer? -- Uncle Ed (talk)

I don't understand. Is this template the noticeboard or am I just lost? Angela.

Reply from grin

Angela, I try to contact you later the day if time permits [expected around 18:00 CET]; I am pretty busy these days with my job(s). Thank you. --grin ✎ 2005 June 29 10:26 (UTC)

FYI: Ed Poor no longer refers to you for dispute resolution

Hello Angela, I was wondering if you have any comment on that fact that Ed Poor has serreptitiously removed you as someone to go to to resolve disputes? Is he trying to disassociate a connection with you for some reason? Anyway here is the same question as I asked it to Ed (he has since removed it from his talk page):

[To Ed Poor]

I became very curious because of this edit you made to your user page. So you no longer consider Angela a friend and/or people should no longer go to Angela if they have a dispute with you? If Angela tells you to stop will you keep going now? Why the misleading/misdirecting checkin comment (you removed Angela from the list rather than merely edited Anthere's entry)? Are you trying to remove a connection between you and Angela for some reason? just wondering. zen master T 21:16, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

zen master T 22:00, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Interesting. I'm not going to read too much into it though. Angela 17:28, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am the one reading much into it, just wanted a comment from you. How many times has someone with a problem with Ed Poor come to you for dispute resolution? FYI: I fixed the "this" link above to no longer compare with current. zen master T 19:59, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure they ever have that I remember. Angela 18:33, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Logged out

Angela you're currently logged out]. -JCarriker 18:37, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

I know. I was in an internet cafe so prefer not to log in unless I have to (like if I'm voting on something), but my internet access at home is suddenly working again, so I'll be logged in from now on. :) Angela. 21:10, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

NTL Internet

I gathered from a passing comment that you have some experience of Internet access through NTL. We're thinking of getting broadband at home, and we have NTL cable TV currently: I wonder if you could give me the benefit of your experience, whether positive or negative? If you would prefer to do this OOB via email, let me know. --Phil | Talk June 28, 2005 11:55 (UTC)

replied by email. Angela. June 28, 2005 15:19 (UTC)

Many thanks. --Phil | Talk July 1, 2005 08:32 (UTC)

Romantic Wikipedia

So romantic that you and Erik found each other through Wikipedia. I wish you much luck in Berlin. Are you learning German?

Copyright problems and WP's mirrors

Since I thought you might be concerned, I'd like to refer you to my recent post on the Village Pump. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere elso, so forgive me if it's already being dealt with. Thanks. --Dmcdevit 29 June 2005 04:56 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. I've replied at the village pump. Angela. June 29, 2005 05:03 (UTC)

Oh, thank you. I'll get on it! By the way, one of the mirrors, Indopedia.org, claims that "Indopedia is a trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc." at [3]. Doesn't appear true to me. --Dmcdevit 29 June 2005 05:36 (UTC)

No, it's not. It's increasingly common for mirrors to try replacing "Wikipedia" with the name of their own mirror, which generally leads to false statements about Jimbo being the founder of [enter mirror's name here]. [4]. I've written to a couple of them about this, but on both occasions, they fixed it only for the site to return with the same problem they next time they updated their database. It's been discussed a little on the juriwiki mailing list, but no action has been taken yet. Angela.

ru statements

no problem, it was not only yours that I tried to translate. unfortunately, the first time I tried to translate Anthere wiki went down and I failed to save her elsewhere. ACrush ^?!/_© 29 June 2005 07:16 (UTC)

again

hello, i think you missed my last contribution in user_talk:Angela#Deletion policy for images on both Commons and another Wikipedia, so this is just to remind you. please, reply. thanks. ~~helix84 29 June 2005 21:54 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand what you're asking me to do. There doesn't currently seem to be any consensus on the proposed policy. I think it needs to be discussed for longer. Angela. June 29, 2005 22:06 (UTC)

I agree that it needs to be discussed more; but I don't know whom to invite because so far only few editors participated (so please invite anyone who might be interested, I don't know English users) and I won't be able to watch over it during the summer, so I wanted to ask you if you could do some little moderation, so that the topic doesn't die, because the problems weren't solved yet. ~~helix84 30 June 2005 10:58 (UTC)

It might be better to list it at WP:RFC rather than invote specific people. Advertising it on a more highly watched page like Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion might also help. Angela. June 30, 2005 20:00 (UTC)

Good luck, Angela

Hi Angela,

Just a little note to let you know that I've (belatedly) returned from the polling booth. I voted for you:-) David Cannon 30 June 2005 13:52 (UTC)

Thanks for your support. :) Angela. June 30, 2005 20:00 (UTC)

Category:UK Wikipedians

Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk 30 June 2005 18:40 (UTC)

PS what are you doing in Berlin?

Thanks for adding the category. I'm now living in Berlin since I started seeing Erik who lived in Berlin, and Berlin was a lot cheaper than anywhere in the UK, so we decided to stay here for now. My postal address is still the UK though, so Category:UK Wikipedians isn't entirely untrue. :) Angela. June 30, 2005 20:00 (UTC)

Copyright Issues

I posted this originally to User talk:Jimbo Wales, but it struck me that you might be more appropriate to ask:

Given that HMSO has stated that they do not consider material under Crown Copyright reproducable under a GFDL licence,

what is Wikipedia's legal position with reproducing the entire King James Bible, which is Crown Copyright (rather than just small scattered portions of it) ?

This is with respect to the full text sections of the articles

• John 15
• John 20
• Matthew 1
• Matthew 2
• Matthew 3
• Matthew 4

(Co-incidentally, these are currently up on VfD on other grounds, but it is a reasonable possibility that the VfD will fail)

~~~~ 1 July 2005 21:25 (UTC)

We allow {{PD-US}} images, so how is this different if the text for the jurisidction in which the database servers are is PD? If it concerns you, you may want to email juriwiki, but I don't see why editors outside the UK would need to conform to Crown Copyright when the work is freely available to them. Angela. July 2, 2005 01:07 (UTC)

I was concerned about the fact that there may soon be wikipedia servers in Australia, which is still under the crown. ~~~~ 6 July 2005 20:15 (UTC)

I've not aware of any plans currently to put servers in Australia. If there are, it would still be possible for those to be caching servers rather than database servers. Angela. July 9, 2005 02:39 (UTC)

Goings-on

Angela, if you know how, could you please remove the Places to Help Out and VfD sections on Wikipedia:Goings-on? I've requested this and explained why on the talk page, but I can't figure out how to do it myself because there's so much customized formatting. I tried, but when I previewed I couldn't get things to look right.

Incidentally, how did Wikipedia get to this point? I've been here for close to two years, and it's getting harder for me to edit things, not easier. People have sacrificed ease of editing in favor of having stupid colored boxes everywhere. Isomorphic 3 July 2005 01:02 (UTC)

I've sent a request to join the FKC mailing list

Please let me know if there is anything you require of me before you are able to accept me on to this list. Many thanks. Pcb21| Pete 4 July 2005 08:40 (UTC)

Nothing I can think of. You should be subscribed now. Angela. July 4, 2005 13:25 (UTC)

Thanks. Pcb21| Pete 4 July 2005 13:40 (UTC)

Wikisource question

Hi! I asked for your help about wikisource here. Gubbubu 6 July 2005 09:25 (UTC)

Wikisource conversion

Hi Angela! I will do the same thing at your talk page there. Dovi July 6, 2005 12:46 (UTC)

lb-wiki: language swaps of user interface

Dear Angela,
I contact you in your quality as a developer re a problem that we experience at the lb-wiki since the first tests with MediaWiki 1.5. started: Whatever language preference one indicates for the user interface, the user interface randomly swaps from that preferred language to English and back. Except the fact that of course the lb-users do not feel very comfortable with these random language swaps, some of our links not situated in the main namespace do no longer work and all our bots are currently down as they can not handle random window title changes.
Can you please help to get this bug fixed or have the present request forwarded to another competent developer? Thanks. --Otets 6 July 2005 20:39 (UTC)

This is also happening on es and sh. I've reported it at bugzilla:683#c5. Angela. July 7, 2005 04:18 (UTC)

Thanks. This morning it seemed to be fixed already. Let's touch wood. --Otets 8 July 2005 10:37 (UTC)

One more technical question on Wikisource

Hi Angela. Thanks so much for your help checking things out with Brion! One more technical question here.Dovi July 7, 2005 08:29 (UTC)

Wikisource links clarification

Hi Angela. I tried to make this stuff clearer in my reply at User_talk:Angela#Clarification_on_links_between_wikis. Sorry the details got so confused. Dovi July 7, 2005 17:40 (UTC)

Please help!

Dear Angela,

I am new to Wikipedia, enormously impressed and at the same time disturbed. I don’t suppose I am raising anything new for you but would appreciate your comments.

After reading around and noticing the way that Wikipedia is structured and what is happening in the hierarchy and all the changes since May 04, [when a major new software infrastructure was introduced] it seems to me likely that Wikipedia is being used by western ‘intelligence’ not only to provide a way of keeping under surveillance those who might be troublesome but also of ensuring that in the most important fields of human knowledge and endeavour not only does Wikipedia provide a simple way of staying in touch with developments but, even more insidiously, a way of ensuring that these developments may even, to an extent, be ‘managed’ in a way that is as compatible as possible with western values and interests. NPOV seems as close to a definition of this as anyone is likely to be able to imagine.

I accept that I have no hard 'evidence' whatsoever for this surmise. At the very least, however, it would be a dereliction of duty were CIA, Homeland Security, MI6 and whoever else, not to infiltrate as far as possible and set up whatever mechanisms were possible to be able to track people, groups and movements over 200 languages and involved in discussions on every possible topic of human interest.

But I suggest that it is very unlikely that their involvement is limited in that way. It is more likely that they are supporting the development of Wikipedia and its community in order to be able to keep track of people and developments and foster what they consider to be positive change.

I would be very interested in your comments. I am sending this also to a few others whom I think would have something to add.

Jeffrey Newman 8 July 2005 12:09 (UTC)

How can you talk about "all the changes since May 04" and at the same time claim to be new to Wikipedia? Angela. July 9, 2005 02:39 (UTC)

Both are true. I found myself deeply drawn in and read a lot. Who it was who spoke of the software changes I don't remember (I think I could possibly trace if necessary) but whoever it was put a lot of emphasis on that. However the issues I have raised are entirely mine. I have not seen them directly raised in Wikipedia, though they may have been. Fred Bauder has commented on my talk page, but I think he underestimates both the resources now available to the security services and the importance of Wikipedia. Of course, the issue is - even were it to be true, what could/should one do? I suppose I should send this to Daniel Mayer who will know most about the finance (and yes - I am new and such information is open and immediately accessible, which is why I think that trained intelligence people could have a major impact.)

Thank you for taking the trouble to give me even a brief reply. I will think further.

PS Why does 'Fred Bauder' come up in 'red' not 'blue'? Jeffrey Newman 9 July 2005 12:35 (UTC)

You need to use the User: prefix to link to a user page. User:Fred Bauder exists, but an article about him does not, which is why Fred Bauder is a red link. Angela. July 9, 2005 14:18 (UTC)

Gravity page

Dear Angela,

Just to give you a heads-up: The gravity article has been dealing with a persistant vandal/nuisance who wants his original research on the subject to be mentioned one way or another on that page. I have taken the lead in the fight against him, and he considers me to be the vandal because of the regular removal of his material from that article.

I have just told him to report me as the vandal if he really feels that way, and he well may. See talk:gravity. The relevant thread is at the top since I just archived all of the previous material, but it is a long one and you may be best off starting at the bottom of it, where I summarize my case against this individual. (His name is Nigel Cook, but he always edits Wikipedia anonymously.)

So be aware that this issue may be "kicked upstairs" by him, and that it will not be your usual vandalism report. --EMS | Talk 8 July 2005 19:18 (UTC)

I think its fairly clear to anyone it's not a normal vandalism report. Have you considering beginning the Dispute resolution process? Perhaps getting more comments via WP:RFC might help? Angela. July 9, 2005 02:39 (UTC)

Template:Expansion

Could you please take a look at the above template, it is currently the subject of a revert war where both sides are at the 3RR limit. ~~~~ 13:06, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

IP liars in HuWP

Dear Angela! There is a user in Hungarian Wikipedia, hu:User:ip-number.com who states that his IP adress is 80.98.42.42. I don't think that, because this is my IP-number at the same time. He wrote some personal articles hu:bökvers about hu:User:Nyenyec and I don't want to be mixed with him. If I have troubles with someone, I used to tell it to him directly and not to write about him in articles. Is there a possibility for some administrator to check this user and telling me his IP? Thank you. You can write answer to this page. I wrote these anonymously, because I don't want anyone to know my IP. 80.98.42.42 06:52, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

It would be possible for a developer to look up the IP number, but it sounds very much like the person is being purposefully disruptive, so it may be easier to deal with via your normal policies. Has there been any discussion on whether to block this user? Are they making any good edits at all? Would checking their IP actually help if you're sure that's not their IP in the first place? Angela. 06:58, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Problem seems to be solved, thanks repliing. 80.98.42.42 08:56, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Kyrghyz

Hi! There is a problem with Kyrgyz link at pages! Kyrgyz currently uses Cyrillic. Current word is Turkish. Kyrgyz link should be Кыргызча --Untifler 07:32, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure, is any community at this wikipedia... But Kyrgyz uses only Cyrillic in Kyrgyzstan and Arabic in Xianjiang. Latin messages are not in Kyrgyz, the are in Turkish. Only Cyrillic message needs.--Untifler 16:42, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Doppelganger account

I would like for you to take a look at Wikipedia talk:Doppelganger account/Archive 1#I object to the bizarre manner this vote is being conducted, and comment if you wish. --cesarb 21:24, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki problem

Dear Angela,

There is a problem with the interwiki link to the csb wiki. The language name is displayed incorrectly, instead of "Kaszëbscziej", it should be "Kaszëbsczi". I corrected the php file at:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LanguageBn.php,

as well as several other instances of the wrong name on META, but this has had no effect at all. Maybe somebody should just upload the updated file? Yes, I did clean up my browser's cache before asking this :-)

Could you possibly help me with that, please? Sorry to bother you, but I got no response on META, and after all, this is a "global issue", since it affects all wikipedias that link to csb. Kind regards, UCZK 22:05, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations, my love! Wikimedia would not be what it is without you, and today the community has shown you that it is fully aware of that. May the next 2 years be as successful and exciting as the last. It's good to know that you will be there, listening to people's concerns and fears, moving the projects forward, and keeping Wikimedia from harm.--Eloquence* 03:58, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, and thanks to everyone who voted. :) Angela. 04:06, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! Wow...I am so not used to people I have voted for actually winning. :) func(talk) 04:21, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Keep up the fanstastic work. The position should also come with an extra official title: "The Most Helpful Person at Wikipedia." Dovi 05:59, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Me too. Apwoolrich 06:27, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Toutes mes félicitations (congratulations) Angela. Aoineko 06:59, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations, Angela! Axl 16:52, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Same for you Angela. And my best wishes for your life. Anthere

Congratulations, Angela, and thanks for the example you have provided ever since my first little editing flurries here two years ago (give or take a week). More than any other single editor, you've shaped my perceptions of Wikipedia, what it needs to become, and how best to get there. All my best, Jwrosenzweig 23:38, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm so glad to know you've won a second term, Angela. All the best for the next two years. David Cannon 00:15, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! In my view the work you've done for Wikipedia is unparalleled. JuntungWu 15:39, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Belated congrats. What triumph is next on your agenda? —Phil | Talk 17:32, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Help namespace

On Kate's thingamy for counting edits it says you've done a number of edits in the Help: namespace. Is this part of wikipedia I don't know about? PS congratulations -- Francs2000 | Talk 21:19, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Maori Wikipedia

Thanks for pointing out the mailing-list reference. I don't subscribe to any WP lists. I've commented at http://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robin_Patterson

Robin Patterson 22:32, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

right infobar

Angela, just wondering if you'd mind if I copied some of the code from your right side user talk bar for my talk page. Thanks. Jtkiefer 01:45, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Username change

First, congratulations on your election victory!

Second, I'm strongly considering changing my username per Wikipedia:Changing username. My primary reason for doing so is for privacy concerns. However, if there would remain a link of some sort between my (now current but future) old username to the new username, it would be rather pointless. My first question is; would the old username have anything remaining associated with it that would show any link to the username? My second question is; would signed edits I have made to various talk pages using "--~~~~" be changed to the new username as well? Or, would I have to go back and manually change those?

Thanks in advance for your assistance. --Durin 17:30, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

• I've placed the request now. --Durin 18:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

hallo Angela, well congratulations first, i partake that you won the election? that´s good, because I voted for you (honestly :-)

i have a slight problem, maybe you could help me. i am being mobbed and harassed by some anonymous user and it´s really becoming impossible, because there is nothing i can do about it. i was thinking about actually deleting my old profile, and then maybe register as a new user, to shake him off. now since i am relatively new to wikipedia, i am not too familiar with the rules? creating sockpuppets or something like that is an offence, right? so how can i delete my old profile and then register myself with a new one, without breaking any rules? does this work? simply renaming my profile won´t help i think, because that would leave my track as well... dankeschön. Antares911 17:26, 20 July 2005 (UTC) hallo Angela, I send you an email considering my issue, however so far I have not received any response, did it arrive at all? thank you.. Antares911 14:35, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Firstly, I nearly didn't notice this message since it wasn't at the end of the page. Secondly, your mail got filtered into the wrong folder since it was German, so I didn't read it straight away. If you don't want there to be any link between your current account and the new one, you'll need to make a new account, otherwise it is trivial for this user to find what your new name is, both by seeing the change in the logs, and from seeing the name change in the page histories of the pages you edit. If you want to be renamed, with a link between the two names, please request that at WP:CU. If this user is stalking you, as you suggest, then perhaps you should file a request for arbitration. Angela. 18:32, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

I am not terribly surprised that Antares would like to leave behind the track Antares has collected this far. Copy-and-paste moves of articles, creation of deliberate duplicate articles at places Antares (but usually no one else) wants to have as their headings... However, I am confident that if the person behind Antares continues (even without track) similar things, we will detect such, all too easily again. After all, it was rather easy to find (on basis of behavior) that Antares apparently has had at least two other usernames: User:at33 and User:Bhinneka. My intention is not to make this any sort of RfC or request for banning, as I believe the community will keep Antares' extremer schemes in check (though with a lot of work necessitated to that, sadly). Perhaps it is however good to understand why some ones would like to leave their track behind. 217.140.193.123 18:15, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Bureaucrat judgment on current nomination

Angela, I would be grateful if you could express an opinion on Ed Poor's suggestion that he promote a 70%-30% candidate at WP:RFA. Thanks -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 17:45, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Angbot

Hi. Can this anti-vandalbot bot be set upon persistent human vandals? Mandel 12:49, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. Since you've been voted into the Wikimedia Foundation, I'd like to ask how I can discuss about measures against vandalism. I've personally been the target of vandalism vendettas because I spoke out against them, and I found this a problem with Wikipedia that needs to be solved. Mandel 21:41, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Commons

I didn't know who to ask, so I decided to ask you ;). Is there a way to transfer de:Bild:Oomph dero.jpg to Commons so I can use it on en:Oomph!? Thanks. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 00:37, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Could you please delete The image on dewiki so that the link from there is also to commons? [I'm assuming you're a steward considering all the stuff you've been elected for etc, ;) congratulations on that BTW] — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 01:45, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Whoops, well thanks for that :). — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:11, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Opnion wanted

Please look at the edit history of Wikipedia:Third opinion and specifically at this Diff. Please also look at my talk page and that of the other user involved. Am I out of line here? What is the proper action at this point. i think the other user involved is out of line, but I am trying to be sensible and not escalate further. DES 03:23, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

fire brigade

In the best interest of the forest, what would you consider an appropriate action for the Wikipedia:10 GNAA VfD nominations pool, and the half-dozen redirects to WP:ASS? Yours, Radiant_>|< 17:32, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Considering the problems with the last attempt to control the "fire", I think ignoring it might now be a safer option. Deleting any new pages that come out of this seems a good idea, but deleting existing ones is only likely to lead to more disputes. Angela. 17:39, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

How about redirecting such pages to Wikipedia:Deletion policy? --Michael Snow 21:13, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

IAR

"Yes, it includes the 3RR. Renaming it "Use Common Sense" might be less problematic than the suggestion rules should be ignored without reason."

• How about the name Wikipedia:Simply Use Common Sense... wait, maybe not :) Radiant_>|< 19:09, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Help

Angela, please look at George W. Bush and User:134.161.244.89. A user has been fighting all day to get changes into the article to make the subject look bad. I have tried to direct it to the talk page without success. The same user is causing similar problems at Metrosexual and African American Vernacular English. I believe he should be blocked but I feel I have too much interaction to do it myself. Can you please look at the user and his edits? Thanks. - Tεxτurε 21:16, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. - Tεxτurε 21:30, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Re:

User_talk:Sam_Spade#Archives, I guess I don't know if I could have a problem with it, since I have no idea what happened... I'm rather certain what you did was ok, but could you please explain it more clearly (and if there is an issue w wiki-confidentiality, an email explanation would be ok too). ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ 22:24, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Harry Potter and possible copyvio

Please take a look at this: Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince_-_Full_Plot_Summary. We're concerned an overly detailed plot summary will be a copyright infringement (as precedent in the US "Twin Peaks Production v. Publications International"). The consensus is that the Board ought to be informed. Do take a look and let us know the Board's thoughts. Thanks. Mandel 06:26, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Frankfurt

Hello there, Kim Bruning recommended that I talk to you about where I should stay while in Frankfurt. Is there anyone who already has a room who wouldn't mind sharing it? Or has Wikipedia negotiated group rates with any hotels? Please let me know, as I'm thinking of flying in from New York on fairly shirt notice (as in, I decided to come today). Thanks! [[User:PZFUN|User:PZFUN/signature]] 08:07, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Linkspammer

We are having some problems with a linkspammer (Wikipedia:Vandalism_in_progress#Severe). If possible, could you take action on the point I added to meta:Talk:Spam_blacklist#Atrivo_linkspammer_on_en? Thanks! Thue | talk 09:47, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Hopefully that will stop them! Thue | talk 01:06, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

I think you possibly got the format wrong; the items you added are formatted differently than the other items, and today the linkspammer was back, posting fx http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Massachusetts&diff=prev&oldid=19363310 , which among others contains the link duplo.dnip.net, one of the links added to the blacklist. Thue | talk 12:17, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't get it; a test I made show that I can't post duplo.dnip.net to Wikipedia, and I can't post the content of the edit diff I linked above, but the linkspammer's edit still got through? Thue | talk 12:34, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

3rr

i noticed that you blocked "134.161.244.89" for violating 3rr, but failed to block the following, who also violated 3rr on the very same article:Texture, Canderson7,Gamaliel,Billroy88,Rhobite,Gabrielsimon. If you are an admin, you should fairly and evenly enforce all rules.

If you feel those people need blocking, you're free to request it at WP:AN/3RR but I didn't notice anyone but you violating the rule. The others were most likely reverting vandalism, which is an allowed exception to 3RR. Angela. 19:38, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Take a look at their edits that day. They did EXACTLY the same thing "134.161.244.89" did, namely remove comentary that they did not agree with. If you say what they did was not vandalism, then "134.161.244.89" is exonerated too, as all he did was remove the biased revisions of others, who violated the 3rr as well. By blocking the one and not the other, you are being very biased, and bias has NO place on wikipedia.

Wikcionario

Hello,

I'm es:Usuario:ecelan, from the Wikipedia, the one who is blocked on the Wikcionario. I can log on the Spanish Wikipedia without problems so I don't think it has to do with proxys.

At the begining I thought it was because my user was ecelan, so I told a bibliotecario to change it to Ecelan. But it didn't work.

When I try to log on I get following message: No existe ningún usuario llamado "Ecelan". Asegúrate de que lo has escrito correctamente, o usa el formulario de abajo para crear una nueva cuenta de usuario.

Free translation: There is no user called Ecelan. Make sure that you have written it correctly or use the form lower down to create a new account. But my user does exist: [5].

And it's not a question of a wrong password. I have the same password for all wikis and it works on all the other. I get the same message when I try to get my password on the mail.

Well hope you can help me. Thanks for your time. es:Usuario:ecelan

P.S. B.t.w. congratulations!

Thanks so much! I can log in again! Cheers, es:Wikitionary:ecelan

Hi Angela

Hi Angela, thanks for your answer in the Commons, I'm the commons:User:FML, remember? I remember that I ask to you, but I do it other moment, because I need get out here (to my home) now! :) Sorry for the messages in commons. If you want a speed answer too, try pt:Usuário Discussão:FML, thank you! bye, see you! --FML ^{hi me at pt} 10:23, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

A sysop protected a page where she was "warring"

Do you either advise about or take care of matters of the folloing sort: I think that User:Deb has misused sysop privileges by protecting the page Lady Catherine Grey after herself twice moving the article from its original location "Catherine Grey" to her this new location. She admits having done the protection, after her own second move (see http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJtdirl&diff=19381941&oldid=19331143). The renaming history is recent and is available easily at http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Lady_Catherine_Grey&action=history
My impression is that Deb deliberately and knowingly uses the admin power in this "content dispute" to push her own opinion onto others. The article had been in its old location for long time, apparently years. Its (first) renaming came only very recently, made by Deb. Rather disturbingly, Deb had not bothered to discuss her intention to move at the discussion Talk:Catherine Grey before her first renaming (there was e.g no vote), and she did not properly discuss it even before her second move. (Relevant naming conventions are saying things that "Catherine Grey" is acceptable and the heading needs not necessarily be "Lady Catherine Grey": there are two conditions in naming convention for putting "lady", both requirements should be fulfilled. There is thus content dispute, and its outcome is actually not relevant to decide whether Deb abused the admin powers. I am for the old heading, and I believe it to be the more correct one.) One small point is that apparently Deb had not made any contribution to the article before her renaming - this speaks of an editor who is focused on, not content of this article, but making her own version of form to prevail.
I have also earlier came to see Deb's actions and style of comments. She shows a pattern of not being capable of presenting reasons, and she seems to read policies and conventions in a loose manner, not fully grasping what such guideline actually says. Deb appears to not want to answer properly, substantively, to questions or to presented arguments, rather she gives sort of platitudes. An example is "...were agreed before you arrived" which implies an attempt to prevail by some sort of seniority (though, figuratively speaking, seniority could also be e.g senility).
Anyway, Deb's said action in protecting a page she had herself been warring over seems to be such a misuse that deserves some work. May I leave this matter to the capable hands in higher administration of WP. 217.140.193.123 10:26, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

You may wish to know that the above anonymous user is in fact User:Arrigo. I have previously warned him about not signing his comments. Deb 11:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

If you think it's a problem, you could try mentioning it at WP:AN, but if the real problem is that the page isn't where you want it to be rather than the fact it's protected against moves, then discussing this on the talk page or at WP:RM before moving it would be better. I see no harm in protecting the page until this is resolved, and though I'd rather Deb hadn't protected it herself, I'd be likely to protect it now if she hadn't, as would any other admin wanting to prevent a harmful move war. Angela. 21:50, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

Theorems vs Theories

In categories. Did you decide on how you'd like things there? According to the theorem article, those two are different/distinct things. One argues from axioms, the other makes models and attempts to predict things. Yeah, they both should probably be cross-linked because most people (myself included) are probably not likely to always be aware of the difference (I hope to be from now on...). Anyways you changed some things, then reverted some of them back - did you come to a conclusion?
~ender 2005-07-23 05:06:MST (dawn: the time when reasonable men go to bed...)

My only conclusion was that I shouldn't edit in my sleep. I realised I was just confusing the two terms without thinking about it properly and reverted myself. I agree the cross-links might help. Angela. 21:52, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

Plea for your assistance

Angela, I am under attack by a group of editors here in the US. One, JamesMLane has agreed to mediation. As I seek an unbiased mediator I find very few choices. I would like a person with no ties to the issue and a positive attitude. Your profile indicates these qualities. If Wikipedia is to be a success it needs to have input by all. I have had to seek protection for the page twice. Please help resolve this issue. Sincere thanks. The page is "Ted Kennedy". The issue is the validity of a website link. I am the "anon", Perhaps we could all resolve this in an AOL chat room? I will understand if you do not have time for this. Thank you. User:24.147.97.230

I replied at Talk:Ted Kennedy, but if you want to properly request mediation, WP:RFM is the right page to do that on. Angela. 21:53, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Angela, Thanks for your help. I did request and was assisted by Kelly Martin. She provided much wisdom and made some terrific suggestions. However, the group of editors which forces their opinion on others will not negociate. Even if I was to request mediation it would not help as each editor demands to be considered as a seperate entity, except when it helps them to claim they are a group. I can see that the Wiki concept is doomed to fail. The system of checks and balances is missing critical elements. It reminds me of Nazi Germany. (I don't mean to offend you, I see you are in Berlin now) I have read military history at lenght. It is quite possible that the will of a few can be forced upon others, with horrible results. That I am the only person who seeks your help in these matters in no way shows I am the only person affected. To the contrary, it is often a single person who reflects the views of many. Best to you with Wiki, I have not given up on it...perhaps some day it will be better organized and have a chance to achieve its goals.

Sockpuppets

Will you (if you can) check users Wyss and Ted Wilkes to see if they're sockpuppets. Knowing would be helpful for an informal mediation I'm conducting. Thanks. -JCarriker 00:01, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

replied at User talk:JCarriker. Angela. 03:52, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

It is my suspicion that User:Wyss and his alter ego User:Ted Wilkes are identical with User:DW and his many accounts which have all been hard banned in the past. As Wyss so strongly urges that a sockpuppet test be run as soon as possible on his account and that of Ted Wilkes, you may know that it's easy to disguise one's IP address by using an anonymizer. It's also possible to come in from different IP addresses and post something different at nearly the same time. You only need to use two different personal computers sharing the Internet connection through different Internet service providers. If I am right that users Wyss and Ted Wilkes are identical with User:DW and his many aliases who in the past had repeatedly been hard banned, then he certainly would have made arrangements to easily withstand such a sockpuppet test. What makes me so certain that these users are identical?

1. User:JillandJack, an alias of DW, whose account was banned by Adam Bishop and you in February 2005, has created the biased article on David Bret, which in its first version, I am sure, was only written in order to cast aspersions on this biographer, who, in his book on Elvis Presley, had stated that Elvis may have been gay. See also Talk:David Bret. Significantly, Ted Wilkes was the only user who repeatedly reverted all my contributions, which made the article more neutral, to the biased edit by JillandJack. See history of the said page. Ted Wilkes even ignored what administrator User:DropDeadGorgias said on the discussion page, namely, that my version of the page is far less POV than the one by JillandJack he stubbornly preferred.
2. User Wyss used similar arguments as Ted Wilkes presented some weeks ago to suppress my contributions to the articles on Nick Adams and Natalie Wood. He repeatedly deleted these contributions.
3. Ted Wilkes frequently accused me of being a vandal, a troll, etc. Significantly, the following sentence can be found on User:Wyss's page: "I think the Internet trolls inhabiting Wikipedia are its biggest weakness since they stir up unhelpful vandalism and sabotage throughout helpful anarchy."
4. On the Talk:Natalie Wood page user Wyss even accuses me of an alleged "standard tactic of trying to wear me down with repetition of mostly factual but slightly distorted material." This is remarkably similar to what Ted Wilkes says on the Talk:Nick Adams page: "This is the 'wear them down' tactic that they have successfully used over and over with others who objected to false and unfounded claims on the Presley page, doing it so many times that the other users eventually gave up."
5. As a reply to administrator User:Willmcw's comment on the User talk:Mel Etitis page, Wyss has written: "You clearly haven't read that link yourself. Why didn't you bother to check it? Maybe because you're so busy as a new Wikipedia:Admin?" This sounds very similar to flamings by Ted Wilkes. I only mention his reply to administrator Mel Etitis: "Yet again I have to request that you read facts and know what you are talking about before commenting. I suggest, since this matter is in the hands of Wikipedia:Mediator Ed Poor, that it might be best for you to refrain from further comments and not interfere in the process." For the stubbornness of user Ted Wilkes, see also [6]
6. User Wyss called administrator Mel Etitis "dearest troll". On the Talk:Natalie Wood page, administrator Mel Etitis said: "it does seem to me that the anon is right in thinking that there's a good deal of circumstantial evidence that suggests a strong link between you [i.e. Wyss] and Ted Wilkes (talk • contribs) — similar styles, even to your user pages, similar aggressive and short-tempered approach to other users, etc., not to mention the very similar comments and editing interests. We could settle it by asking for a sock-puppet check, but so far as I can tell, if you are using both accounts, you haven't used them for nefarious purposes, so I have no desire to bother a developer. ... The suggestion that you have a second account isn't an accusation, as it wouldn't be against Wikipedia policy for you to have one — there's only be a problem if you used the two in certain ways. Intriguing though it is that you've brought this irrelevant debate here rather than discussing the article, I must decline to be distracted by it. ... With regard to the relevant issues – the anon. editor's addition – I held (and still hold) that Wyss's deletion of a large chunk of text was unjustified. ... The material seems to be adequately sourced; Wyss's only reason for deleting it all is aesthetic; that isn't adequate grounds for his behaviour according to Wikipedia policy."

To my mind, Ted Wilkes seems to have many further accounts, for example, User:NightCrawler, or User:Karl Schalike, and also posted anonymously as User:66.61.69.65, User:24.165.212.202 and User:82.40.81.132, etc. 80.141.237.77 03:16, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

I see no reason to think Wyss is DW, and I've had a lot of experience with DW, having blocked Nightcrawler, Angelique, JillandJack, and maybe others I've forgotten about. I also have no reason to believe Wyss is Ted Wilkes. I've not looked into whether Ted is DW, but since A. Lafontaine is suspected as being DW, I doubt Ted Wilkes is him as well. If Ted was 66.61.69.65, isn't he talking to himself on Talk:Elvis Presley? Seems unlikely. I can't see why you'd think those IPs were the same user. 82.40.81.132 is Telewest in Scotland and 24.165.212.202 is a Roadrunner IP in Virginia. Neither of those seem to be an open proxy. Also, DW didn't use proxies as far as I remember. Whenever IP checks were done on him, it showed he was in Elliot Lake. Angela. 03:52, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Maybe my claims are ungrounded that Ted Wilkes and Wyss are identical, though there is a fair amount of suspicion because of the similar aggressive approach to me, the similar comments and editing interests, etc. (see above). Is this mere accident? OK, it may also be possible that there are two (or more?) Elvis fans knowing each other and therefore working together in reverting what I have written. On the other hand, it could well be that Ted was talking to himself on the Talk:Elvis Presley page. The three IPs I have mentioned were all deleting my contributions to the same discussion page, as administrator DropDeadGorgias pointed out in April. He said,

Hey, I just had to re-add some comments that were deleted by User:66.61.69.65, who is still failing to sign his posts. If you continue to not follow wiki procedure, you may be blocked from editing. Please follow decorum here.

OK, I just saw the same removal on the article and the talk page by User:24.165.212.202. If anyone makes these same removals without further discussion or descriptive edit summaries, I will block their IP for 24 hours.

Same warning for User:82.40.81.132.

To my mind, at least Ted Wilkes may be JillandJack, as he repeatedly reverted all my contributions to the biased text written by JillandJack. And NightCrawler sounded similar to Ted Wilkes and Wyss when he called Bret's publications "throwaway, tabloid, invent-for-cash pieces of trash". 80.141.213.224 05:53, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

In addition, here is a significant list of contributions:

NightCrawler (removed unfounded comments -- see discussion page) [7] [8]

Ted Wilkes (removed information on relationships based on non-credible sources - See Talk page.) [9]

Ted Wilkes (removed improper text by ANONYMOUS vandal) [10]

Wyss (skive the gossip a bit, clean up the prose, the PP ref is not accurate) [11] [12]

66.61.69.65 (Relationships) [13] [14]

205.188.117.72 (Relationsships) [15]

24.165.212.202 (Relationships) [16] [17]

Could it be that all of these continuing multiple reverts are edits by the same user or by two or three different users working together? What do you think? 80.141.248.21 15:38, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

I've no idea. If you have a problem with the edits of these people, it would be more helpful to seek mediation or hold a request for comment than trying to find evidence of whether or not they are the same person. Only people with CheckUser access can really determine that anyway, and I'm not one of the people with that access. Angela. 19:54, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe this will help:

• See Elvis Presley history page
  • (cur) (last) 20:25, July 26, 2005 Wyss m (rv to last by Ted Wilkes)
  • (cur) (last) 20:25, July 26, 2005 Ted Wilkes (Removing POV notice for the 2nd time by Anonymous User: 129.241.134.241)

Thins &c

I apologise for my inadequate editing. I have replaced the Thins item with more original material. Mark O'Sullivan 09:56, 24 July 2005 (UTC) I see you are on my trail on Tyning as well (though whether it's original research I doubt - more a plea for help, really...) Mark O'Sullivan 14:02, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

I think you are being heavyhanded over Thins. I don't mind where it goes, but if you don't think the copied bit is fair dealing under copyright law, why not accept the revision I drafted and drop the challenge? Then we can all go away and forget about it. Mark O'Sullivan 08:47, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Please see the page history of Thins. I've not edited it at all so it's not me being "heavy-handed". If you want to dispute whether it's a copyvio, please go to Wikipedia:Copyright problems which is where I listed the problem. I'm not challenging you, and it's not me who will choose whether the James Thin page is deleted or not. Angela. 05:46, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Frankfurt airport

It was an error. Apparently what happened is that when I edited the article I edited an old version of the article instead of editing the current version. I don't know how this could happen. In any case I have corrected the mistake now. Hardouin 14:45, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for letting me know. Angela. 20:03, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

US Chapter

Angela, congratulations on your board election. Although I am new and could not vote, you seem to have the passion, drive and appear to have made quite a contribution to the Wikimedia projects. I have been watching the Wikimedia project for some time and am now starting to contribute in the area of business (we're working on a new Economics, Business and Finance Portal). The reason I'm leaving a message is to see if I could start a dialogue with you or another board member about a couple of topics. First, I would like to talk about fund raising and development. I would like to learn about sustaining membership, so I might personally be able to contribute financial support. Second, I would like to learn about starting a chapter in Ann Arbor, MI (it may just be supporting the US chapter if that gets off the ground). Lastly, I wouldl like to know if any member of the Wikimedia board has spent any time with Proquest. I believe I may be able to learn if Proquest could somehow contribute. In general, my skill is raising money and I would like to see if I can help the Wikimedia projects. Unfortunately, I have some meetings planned or I would try to attend the conference in Frankfurt. I look forward to hearing from you. --Ronreed 15:55, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Another one...

Thank you. No reason specifically, just in general. Just so you know your effort has been noticed and appreciated (from afar). May your day be filled with laughter! …Guy M… ^(soapbox) 07:52, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Angela 20:12, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

A wiki killer proposal

I have made a highly unpopular proposal to close most non-functioning wikis. I think you'd like to know it. Please visit: m:Proposed policy for wiki closure. -- Toytoy 14:13, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. I've replied at m:Talk:Proposed policy for wiki closure. Angela 20:16, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Wikispecies vandalism

We've had a repeat offender on Wikispecies with (I suppose) a dynamic IP that creates an account, vandalize a bunh of pages, and then leaves (and gets blocked for infinite), only to return with another user name to do more of the same vandalism. What can be done to stop them? - UtherSRG 19:44, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

I don't know their IPs. They create an account each time. They upload some offensive or immature images, they add them to random pages, they move some pages (often moving Village Pump to Ass Pus Pump), they'll move my user space to their's (and I'd rather not protect my user space or the Village Pump or other very public pages), and they'll create junk articles (notice the articles I deleted from 15:25 to 15:30 this afternoon). - UtherSRG 20:54, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Logos at Wikimedia portal

Hi Angela. Do you know anything about the Wikimedia portal, wikimedia.org? Is it possible for mere mortals to edit that page? Perhaps the code there is generated by some wiki-template somewhere? I'd like to fix the logo links, but I don't know how. (By the way, it would be good if this information were contained in that page within an HTML comment.) Thanks, dbenbenn | talk 22:09, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Guess what: the only missing logo there is [18], which has nothing to do with me. Some of the other logos, though, have "wrong" URLs, which should be updated. So again, do you know who's responsible for keeping that page up to date? dbenbenn | talk 22:36, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Do you know who I can talk to to get the other logo URLs updated? dbenbenn | talk 22:54, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Special characters in Igbo Wikipedia

Hi, Angela! I left you a message in your discussion page in the Igbo Wikipedia. Could you help on that? Thanx! --Piolinfax 09:47, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Page protection

Please protect Western United States and it's redirect American West. A problem user lost his POV duplicate article, childishly put it up for Vfd when talk page consensus went against him and lost, and now his (accidentally admitted) sockpuppet is making threats of POVing the merged article (Western United States). I'd protect it but I seem to be the anti-christ in his eyes, so that wouldn't be appropriate. -JCarriker 11:53, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Petaholmes has already done it. Angela.

IP blocked

Hello Angela,

could you check why my IP of 62.238.255.224 (proxy IP of my ISP) has been blocked? This doesn't seem to be a block against me, but some generalized block against IP addresses in some range for other reasons. I can still log in using another ISP under my own username. I can't log in using the ISP I normally use, also not if I don't use the proxy server. My computer IP is close to 62.238.255.224, so I guess that some range of IP's has been blocked. Count Iblis 16:52, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi Angela, well, I can't even visit the main wikipedia site! The site won't load and ultimately I get page not available message. I'm using an alternative dial up connection with another ISP now and that works ok.

The problem seems to have been solved now. I couldn't visit wikipedia for a period of about 24 hours using my regular ISP.

Help

Hi Angela! How are you? I'm fine. I need your help in PT.WP, please. If you can help me... Thank you! bye. --FML ^{hi me at pt} 06:08, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

• Hello Angela, long time no see. How are you lately? I just saw you in wiki.pt and had to laugh. Please disregard Felipe's note above: he is being a bit melodramatic. He was blocked for a week ending today and apparently is quite anxious to go back to editing. cheers, muriel@pt 07:15, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for answer Angela! I am not a "melodramatic", I only a user that I want to contribute with Wikipedia. I was blocked for one month (please, see pt:Especial:Log/block) without necessity, "allbody" can see my lasts contributions. I need your help because Muriel, the bureaucrat, ignore my emails. I need help from somebody from Wikimedia, because I am certain that I am suffering an injustice. Thank you again! hugs, bye. --FML ^{hi me at pt} 07:31, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Sorry Angela, ignore it, I think the Muriel answer me. Sorry Muriel, but I didn't see your message here (in 06:41, 28 Julho 2005 (UTC)): [19] and I think that is a good message! :) Thank you. But, I already blocked (see pt:Especial:Log/block). bye, I'm so sorry for inconvenience. --FML ^{hi me at pt} 07:40, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Angela, ignore all, now all is right! Thank you for to try help me. See you! --FML ^{hi me at pt} 08:55, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Sanbox gnome

Hi Angela,

Remember me ?

Could I ask your advice?

This may or may not refer to wikipedia but your metaphorical home as well.

Let us say a kid wants to play in sandbox but is polite and does not break any rules. I expect the kid to grow up eventually in the mean time, he spends his time in almost entirely in the Sandbox.

However he went to far and accidentally destroyed part of it. He doesn't contribute anything though and so the anti-fun bullies (trolls) totally ban him forever from the premises. Is this Ok? Could I ask your comment?

Best regards,

--Jondel 00:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I've already replied to this at Wikipedia:Administrators%27 noticeboard#Sandbox gnome. Please stop repeating the same comment in so many places. Angela. 02:15, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

A new Wiki

I found a new Wiki called Wiki dating. The Wikipedia article for it is being nominated for deletion. Please help cast a keep vote for it, not to mention create an account for yourself on the new Wiki dating website. --SuperDude 21:44, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

List of victims VFD

On this Wikisource VFD, you said that lists of victims such as this do not belong on any Wikimedia project. Why is the September 11, 2001 disaster allowed to list victims in the Wikipedia space, while the General Slocum disaster in New York in 1904, which killed over 1,000 people, isn't allowed to list its victims? -- BRIAN0918  03:23, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Referring this to you ...

Hi Angela,

I have received a personal e-mail from User:Plautus satire, complaining that User:Raul654 has banned him and protected his talk page. He's written to me asking for Raul's decision to be reversed.

I have never heard from this user before and know nothing about his/her history, and I hesitate to countermand a decision of a fellow-admin when I don't know what's going on. I know you're busy, so I hope you'll forgive me for referring the problem (if it is one) to you. David Cannon 04:33, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

List of victims

I think what defines "encyclopedic" is a little vague, but I'm not arguing that it necessarily should be on Wikipedia, just on one of the projects; I think this is the point of what I've been saying: most people are for moving it to some other project, they believe it belongs on Wikimedia somewhere, just not on _____. -- BRIAN0918  04:38, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Macedonian denar

As you are the author of this article, would you be so kind as to take a look at it? There is an ongoing revert war there, with one of the editors adding this disclaimer. So far, attempt of communication with him remained with no answer (other than blanking the talk page), and so did call for external review. Perhaps you might be able to give your advice? -- Naive cynic 20:22, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

It was written by an anonymous user, not by me, but I left a comment at Talk:Macedonian denar anyway. Angela. 21:33, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

vfd reform

Why'd you leave this at #2?

If I think anything needs deleting, I just delete it. Right away. Ed Poor

I took that as approval to Be Bold. Uncle Ed 22:10, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

The page alternates between comments I agreed and disagreed with. I'm NPOV even on my own subpages. :) Angela. 22:12, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Mediation comittee

I just wanted to let you know that I have put my name up for nomination for the Mediation Comittee, any comments or criticisms would be appreciated, I've been told I handle both well so please be brutally honest. Jtkiefer ^{T | @ | C} ----- 07:07, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Birthday

User:Jenmoa/birthday --User:Jenmoa 05:01, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! :) Angela. 07:50, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Happy birthday, Angela!

Just a quick note to wish you a happy birthday. All the best. David Cannon 10:59, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Many happy returns of the day. --Just my 2 cents -- Hemanshu 11:01, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Happy birthday Angela! Happiness for you! --FML ^{hi me at pt} 13:02, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Happy birthday Angela Waerth 23:15, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Happy belated birthday, Angela! Many happy returns as well!! Patio from nl.

Belated Happy Birthday! Feliz coumpleanyos! Jondel 07:39, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Belated HB =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:51, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Ditto —Phil | Talk 13:29, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

D'oh, I missed your birthday! And to think, I didn't even get you a gift. Perhaps next year. Thanks for all you do around this place. --Lord Voldemort ^{(Dark Mark)} 14:27, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks everyone! :) Angela. 21:45, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Blackbook of Wikipedians

This page which is blacklisting fellow wikipedians doesn't really belong on the pedia .... does it? User:Witkacy/Black_Book Waerth 23:15, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't think it belongs, but a lot of others do. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Polish Wikipedians' notice board/Black Book where 16 out of 40 people wanted it kept or moved. Angela 02:36, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Question on Meta

Hi Angela,

I asked a question on your talk page on Meta (it belongs on Meta, so I won't replicate it here), please reply there when you have time. Thank you! --Gutza 14:39, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

History lost

Hi, Angela. In the Wikcionario for some reason I cannot explain a history record of a user's talk page previous to a 14:59 7 jul, 2005 (UTC) has disappeared: this one. Do you know if it can be restored. Thanx! :) - Piolinfax 18:26, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Ingemisco tanquam reus

Oro supplex et acclinis,
Cor contritum quasi cinis,
Gere curam mei finis.

Dies_Irae_Word_By_Word (To be clear: This is an apology) Amorrow 21:13, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Proposed update of MediaWiki:Tagline

A change to the current Wikipedia tagline has been proposed for discussion and adoption at Wikipedia:Proposed update of MediaWiki:Tagline. Interested contributers please visit this page. WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT -- Sitearm | Talk 18:42, 2005 August 6 (UTC)

Personally, I prefer it the way it is since every page already has at least one disclaimer link. Perhaps there should be a vote since there seems no agreement at the moment? Angela. 22:10, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

The proposal has been updated:

• Leave current top-left text as is ("From WikiPedia the free encyclopedia.")
• Add new top-right text ("All articles are user-contributed in a collaborative effort.")

Interested contributors please comment here. Thank you for your help! -- Sitearm | Talk 02:04, 2005 August 12 (UTC)

P.S. I will look into the vote process. Thanks! -- Sitearm | Talk 02:10, 2005 August 12 (UTC)

I just got blocked

I rolled back Vietnam War because User:Stevertigo reverted while it was locked. I sent him a quick note that it was poor form to do this. Then he blocked me!

This does appear to be an abuse of Admin priviledges. I am formally asking for you to desysop him... however if this is not the correct way of going about it just let me know. Please also note he has been edit warring on Vietnam War.

Here is the entry in the block log: 12:59, 8 August 2005, Stevertigo blocked Ta bu shi da yu (expires 14:59, 8 August 2005) (contribs) (unblock) ( 1. Do not edit a temporarily protected page except to add a protected page notice.)

Ta bu shi da yu 03:19, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I am also noting this on WP:AN, WP:AN/I and User:Jimbo Wales. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:21, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Angela, just wanted to say I also support immediate removal of administrator privileges for User:Stevertigo, or at least a promise to refrain from using them until this is sorted out. His behavior has gone from bad to worse in the last couple days. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Stevertigo for more background. — Knowledge Seeker দ 03:54, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

OK, he apologised. If we can make sure that he doesn't do this again, I'd like to take back my request for desysoping this editor. We all make mistakes. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:05, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Imho this has gone beyond a single appology, and from his comments I am not convinced he understands why there is so much fuss. I think at least he should be required to re-apply for adminship. Thryduulf 16:23, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry I wasn't around when this happened since I was at Wikimania, but if someone needs to be desysopped, the ArbCom should handle that. Angela. 22:10, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

being an 'interwiki' user/contributor...

Hi Angela! I'm curious to know how you keep track of your account across so many different language wikipedias. Do you manually switch to each one once a week or something - or perhaps you have an automated process? Cheers --Lisa 11:57, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

RFDA

Rq. temp de-adminship. Per comments on my talk. -St|eve 18:27, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I would like clarification on this de-adminship. This request is due to administrative misconduct (see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Stevertigo) and not a bureaucratic reason (away for extended period of time, etc.). Therefore, it seems sensible than in order to regain adminship, it would be necssary to reapply through Request for Adminship. Since adminship is based on the trust of the community, it should be the community that would return admin rights (in this particular case). I'm especially concerned that a bureaucrat would seek to grant admin status to Stevertigo in the near future despite the community lacking trust (see [20]). Carbonite | Talk 22:03, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I disagree with Carbonite. While several users have expressed distrust of Steve, many of that is in the heat of the moment, and there is no obvious consensus that he should be deadminned. I find it commendable that he voluntarily asks for a temporary deadminning, and since it's voluntarily it can be reinstated once things cool down. Unless, of course, ArbCom decides otherwise. Radiant_>|< 07:59, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

My main issue is that I don't believe Steve really thinks he did anything wrong. His response on the RfC was sarcastic and dismissive. There has never been an apology or acknowledgment of misconduct. I don't find it commendable that he asked for temp de-adminship. Temporary removal of admin rights is something you might request when you're going on an extended vacation and want to lessen the security risk (in case someone hacked your account). When we support a user for RfA, it is on the assumption that they will not abuse their admin rights. Steve has violated multiple policies with multiple users and doesn't seem to believe it's really his fault.

To put it bluntly: This is the most blatant and clear case of admin abuse I've ever seen. If Steve's actions aren't grounds for reapplication, what sort of abuse would be necessary? I'm sorry if I seem so worked up about this, but admin abuse can not be tolerated. Perhaps it is unclear whether there's a true consensus to de-admin. That's why a reapplication should be necessary. If Steve has 80% support of the community, I'll let this matter rest. Carbonite | Talk 10:26, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Is this still an issue? Has anyone desysopped Steve? I've not really followed what's been happening on the wiki for a few days. If someone needs to be permanently desysopped, I strongly believe the ArbCom should handle that. Angela. 22:10, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

New page for Elizabeth Morgan

Anglea: Could please make that all those old versions of Elizabeth Morgan and User:Amorrow/Not so nice Elizabeth git all deleted forever real, reall soon? I am preparing a new product: "Elizabeth Morgan, the GOOD version", 1.0 for release real, reall soon now. Thank yew. Oh, and, eh, if ya ever want to get together to see a performance of Turandot (and you bring your boyfriend or whatever along if ya want) my contact info is right there on my user page. Oh, and, I hope your photo is current. Amorrow 04:16, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

I can't delete it unless it's been through VfD. Angela. 22:10, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

proper place for an announcement?

Angela,

I haven't been figure out quite where to put an announcement about WP. The Wikipedia has been named Best Community Site as an Editors' Choice in the August '05 issue of Linux Journal.

I thought about the Village Pump, but that didn't seem quite right. As an Offiial Person of Consequence, it occurred to me that you would certainly know. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Will

online info

A,

As far as I know, Linux Journal puts non current issues on line, but I don't know the delay time for the current issue. I think the award is significant since the Journal is a very technical one, and not prone to PR gratuitousness (sp?).

I've also been seeing mention of WP, as an authoritative reference, in various places including the New York Times. We are making PROGRESS!

Will

I don't know where the information was originally posted, but you could ask Llywrch, who reported it in The Signpost a month ago. --Michael Snow 16:02, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Please review

I recently, nearly joined the exodus of regualr contributors, but have decided instead to reduce my edits to admin and mediator activities. However I am considering becoming a regular contributor again, if my concerns can be at least partially addressed. Please review and participate in the this. It will only take a small amount of your time. Thanks. -JCarriker 12:43, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I've added your A to the logo. I'll notify you when discussion over the charter begins. -JCarriker 19:28, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

• 

  I've posted some general ideas for discussion. Please participate. Thanks. -JCarriker 20:33, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

Wikisource update?

Hi Angela!

Do you know if anything new is going on? A couple of people have been asking on Scriptorium - the last we heard there was some success moving pages, and we have a list of ready languages.

If there is any news, please let up know on Scriptorium!Dovi 17:29, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

Second tagline poll - please follow this link

(This is already announced on Pump and Rfc but I'm adding it here because I know you're interested.) -- Sitearm | Talk 04:56, 2005 August 16 (UTC)

Request for renaming me on Meta

Hello Angela, I would like to ask you, as a bureucrat, could you look at Wikipedia:Changing_username, where I have put my request: "Please, could you rename me, User:Josefjan to User:Jan Pospíšil. I want to use my real name, because I started to act as a mediator at the Czech Wikipedia, therefore I want to use unanonymous name. Thank you in advance. --Josefjan 07:57, 16 August 2005 (UTC)" and could you, please, do it for me? Thank you very much --Josefjan 13:20, 17 August 2005 (UTC)