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Your tool

Hi, thats a nice tool you have. Very comprehensive. Thanks -- Lost^(talk) 11:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you referring to my edit counter, or to something else? --ais523 11:39, 18 September 2006 (U T C)

Yes the edit counter. If you have some other tools stored somewhere, please let me know. I have a lot of time on my hands these days :) -- Lost^(talk) 12:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

1000 edits is a very neat tool and I think it will be very useful for RFAs. Please do keep me updated if you come up with any more tools as I myself am technologically challenged and am fascinated by these tools! Cheers. -- Lost^(talk) 06:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

AFD bot

If you are adding features, then grouping by date would be nice (or at least a separation of the date from the time/index/whatever it is). The list is really handy though - nice work. Cheers, Yomangani ^talk 12:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Looks good, I noticed it doesn't parse the article link correctly for 2nd nominations - Camille Anderson 2 looks to be deleted when in fact it is the second nom for Camille Anderson. Minor point though. Yomangani ^talk 13:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Not sure how you currently parse the nominations but what about pulling out the link at the top of the nom (==[[here]]==) - most of the time it should be correct and if that isn't, it at least gives a possible clue as to why the AFD is still open. Yomangani ^talk 13:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, OK. Definitely not worth changing the bot for - it's not a major problem anyway since you can see the AFD listing right next to it. Yomangani ^talk 13:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Oops

Yeah, for some reason when I edited your page it was still showing the deletebecause|Reason thing and I removed it. But you had already removed it. I think it wsa a problem with wikipedia because that was the only thing I removed, but it really wasn't even supposed to be there at the time because you had already removed it. :-/ Sorry about that. -- Jowan2005

WP:SNOW

Hi, I see you've already commented about the self-reflexive nature of what I've just commented on at Wikipedia talk:Snowball clause#Abuse of process. Gene Nygaard 00:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

votesymbols.js

There is a problem with votesymbols.js. I have Firefox, and when I load this js file, it doubles the purge tab I added, and the non-native buttons on the edit toolbar. On it's talk page, somebody said that they found it only worked in IE. Are you planning to fix this? I like the idea for this, and hope that somebody can get it working in Firefox, since many people use Firefox (probably more than IE). Thanks, Shards of metal [ Talk • Contribs ] 02:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! The script works perfectly now. Thanks for fixing it. Shards of metal [ Talk • Contribs ] 18:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Template:Birth date and age

There's an error on the above template page you edited. I'd fix it if I knew the source of the issue. - Dudesleeper 13:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Edit counts on RfA

You should probably subst {{PAGENAME}}, as on the main rfa page it shows up as Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship. --Rory096 23:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

More Harassment From A Political Candidate

I wrote to you before concerning a Texas Senatorial candidate editing a compilation of material I had stored in anticipation he wins the election, and becomes worthy of an article on Wikipedia. Since I compiled the assortment, it has been the target of a variety of attacks. The most recent of the attacks was the speedy deletion of the page without notice. You helped me undelete a couple of pages before, and I was hoping you would help me again. I lack the Administrative privileges to undelete the pages myself. Thank you in advance. Somnabot 05:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Could you please give the name of one of the deleted pages? (Otherwise, I don't know where in the logs to look to find out what's happened.) What will happen after that will depend on the situation, which I am unaware of; it's possible the deletion log will make matters clear. --ais523 09:04, 3 October 2006 (U T C)

If you're talking about your Sandbox5, it seems it was temporarily deleted to remove libel from the edit history. Not being an administrator, I can't verify whether this is correct or not; anyway, it's been restored now. Someone appears to have been vandalising it (possibly it was temporarily deleted because that user added libel earlier? I don't know); check its history to find out what happened. --ais523 15:25, 3 October 2006 (U T C)

Thanks for your attention to this matter, and I apologise for my late reply. It seems to have been worked out now. Thanks again. Somnabot 18:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Bot523

I love your bot!

I am very glad to see that someone has created this bot to do exactly what I was doing manually. I was opening each categorised AfD and if the discussion was closed I would remove the tag and leave a message on the closer's talk page. I wonder if some consideration was given to leaving a message on the talk page of the closer? I guess it would mean reducing the workload of the bot, but I think it is usually better to have it done correctly by a person then leave the clean up to a bot. I have absolutly no idea how the bot works (programming wise), but thanks for creating it. Is there anything that I could do that would be helpful to the bot or yourself?--Gay Cdn (talk) (email) (Contr.) 18:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Ensuring an article appears on the relevant category page

Instead of adding just Zambian politicians to the list of categories, treat it as a Wikipedia:Piped link and add something after that pipe. To sort properly write "last name, first name" for proper sorting. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Oops. Apparently, you answered the question, not asked it. Apologies. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Unclosed AFDs

A small request for your Unclosed AfD list - would it be possible to link the dates to the AFD log for that day rather than the general WP date page? When there are only few still open for a date it would be handy to be able to switch straight to that day and see if they are still listed. I know you are still doing that by hand, so no worries if it is a problem, but it would be useful when it is fully "bottified". And any chance of running it daily, so I don't have to slog through several days at a time? And the moon dipped in sugar on a stick please ;) Cheers, Yomangani ^talk 13:19, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

The (log) change is good - thanks. If you could mail me the script I can probably waste a few hours trying to get it to work. Cheers, Yomangani ^talk 16:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't work in my Firefox, but runs straight out of the box in IE6. Thanks. Yomangani ^talk 19:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Diff/edit counter

I don't know if you saw my comment on the RfA talk page, but I wanted to give you some of that "positive reinforcement" : )
I really like the diff example lister (whatever you call it). Not only does it group edits by the page edited (rather than trying to guess by edit summary, which I don't like), but it gives a few quick examples for quick perusal. All-in-all a great tool. I think it's perfect for the talk page, but please make sure you have a noticable link to it on the voting side. I see you have at least one award for it, so I won't "burden" you with another (if you want another, though, speak up, and it's yours : )
Again, very nice job. Kudos (and whatever other "cute" word you would like : ) - jc37 00:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

esolangs

Hi, should very pure funcional languages like Joy (programming language) and Arbol (programming language) have an article on the esolang wiki? Cheers, —Ruud 22:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit counter

Thanks for sharing your edit counter. Solid tool! Williamborg (Bill) 03:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

How does your edit counter identify edits which are welcoming or warning users?

I feel like I have welcomed more than 4 users but your edit counter only found 4. These days, I am using a welcome template that is in my userspace and which might not be categorized. Could this be causing my welcome messages to be ignored by your edit counter? Thanks in advance for your replay and thanks for building this great tool. (Although it was humbling to be told that 0.49% of my edits were notable and only 1.97% were even significant.) I guess I'm just a two-bit contributor. :^)

--69.236.160.1 06:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

There are various possibilities. My edit counter looks at edit summaries to determine what people are doing (welcomes and warnings, etc.) and many people write summaries in such a way that it can't pick them up (people tend not to be as predictable as scripts and bots would like, and that's a good thing IMO). It doesn't try to categories edits into 'notable' and 'significant'; you may have my counter confused with Voice of All's (which does try to calculate notable and significant edits; it also uses edit summaries, as far as I can tell). I can understand the mistake as they have both ended up on the same RfA page before.

I can't tell who you are; you seem to have been logged out when you asked this question, and the IP you signed as has no welcomes. I could look into the matter further if I knew. I'm answering on this page because you weren't logged in, but I don't know if you'll see it. --ais523 07:48, 10 October 2006 (U T C)

edit counter conflicts?

Hi. I tried installing your edit counter, but the tab isn't showing up. Could it be that a function in my monobook is conflicting? Thanks for your time :-) --Storkk 13:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I should have mentioned that I bypassed the cache. And tried purging the page (but doubting it would do anything): it's funny... purging the page makes mozilla display monobook.js correctly. But that's beside the point. Oh well, thanks for trying. I'll probably look into it a little deeper at some point, and let you know if I find anything; but I'm severely allergic to javascript. Cheers and thanks again! --Storkk 08:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I was looking in the right place, but I appreciate your thoroughness... I've worked in tech support before, and even the smartest people can be idiots at times. :-). It might be a browser problem.... I'll have to test it. I use the latest mozilla (not firefox) browser. Since all my other scripts work, I doubt it's a settings problem, but I'll try various machines and configurations and get back to you. Thanks again for your time. --Storkk 15:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

On a windows machine, it's still not working with Mozilla or Firefox, but it seems to work with IE. All other scripts I have tried have worked with Mozilla and Firefox on OpenBSD, Linux, and Windows, so this leads me to believe it's a browser incompatibility with your script. Have you tested it with firefox or mozilla? That's probably a stupid question, since nobody else has asked about it, and that many people seem to be running non-ie browsers, but I can't come up with another answer. Cheers. --Storkk 15:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Testing your suggestion on a Win32 machine right now (I'm pretty sure that it'll be the same at home): on IE, it get a new tab "ca-test" (gives a window saying "This is a test", obviously. However, on firefox, where i usually have: "user page | discussion | edit this page | + | history | move | watch | purge ", i now have a second "purge" tab. (this, I know, seems quite wierd). Both "purge"s do the same thing. With this new evidence, I now think there may be a problem with another script that runs first. I'll try commenting scripts out until I find out what's causing the anomaly. I'll let you know. --Storkk 15:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I've tried commenting out all other scripts (and, of course bypassing the cache). With firefox on windows, I still get nothing. Anyway, I now know that I can use windows and IE to run your script as a workaround. Although it would be cool to get it working and it's an intellectually intriguing problem, I don't want to waste more of your time on this issue. If you are still inclined to try to solve it, I'm still interested; but you've gone "above and beyond" already. Thanks again for the ideas and time that you've spent on this. It's appreciated. I'd be using your script mainly for RfA investigations, and I usually have a windows laptop nearby, so I can live with it not working on Firefox or Mozilla. Cheers again, --Storkk 16:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I thank you for your continued interest, unfortunately, this clean version had no positive effect (on a Win32 machine, with firefox (moox) 1.0.3) yes, un-cached. I am, frankly, baffled. Any insight you might give would be appreciated, but only insofar as you don't feel that you're wasting your time. :-) --Storkk 16:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, has the script been demonstrated to work on a non-ie browser? If not, it's a possibility that the script (again, I haven't looked it over in detail; being allergic to js and all) relies on some non-standard quirk of IE. Ideas? --Storkk 16:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

It would be a great irony that interiot's tool never worked on IE and yours, that adds so many features, only did. Storkk 16:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, like I said, I greatly appreciate your efforts to solve the issue. At some point, I'll try to look into it in a little more detail... til then, I have the workaround of my Win32 laptop that has IE. I'll also try contacting some other non-IE users to see why it might work for them, and not for any machine that I try. If I find anything, I'll let you know. Again, many thanks for expending the effort, it was appreciated, Storkk 16:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

adding user defined searches

I was wondering if it would be difficult to find and count specific edits. Ie 'rvv' or something similar but user defined. RichMac 01:51, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for replying to my question............I shall keep reverting vandalism then. Have a nice day--Sea dog .M.S 15:38, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

I tried putting a {{db-test}} tag on a js subpage and it showed up on CAT:CSD. I'm suspecting that it didn't work for you because you had comments // before the tag? enochlau (talk) 15:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied on WP:AN. --ais523 15:53, 18 October 2006 (U T C)

My RfA

Thanks for reverting it, I relized only after what I did, I thought I reverted it, so thanks for that, EagleEyes 16:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi

I noticed that you very kindly helped Labyrinth13 by giving him advice concerning the Ouija article. Since you are already familiar with the "'case" I wanted to mention that I tried to resolve the situation from the beginning by removing any reference to The Exorcist since it seemed to cause him concern. This does not seem to be where his "real" problem lies.

I would ave thought that a compromise by removing any mention of The Exorcist would have resolved the issue. But he seems to want The Exorcist mentioned so that he can argue the veracity of the case the story was inspired by. That does not belong in the Ouija article but in an article about the case which actually inspired the book.

Going back to the above mentioned "real" problem. How does one resolve a problem when his real problem is with my religion? Yes, I am a practicing Catholic, but I have tried to fairly include information into an article composed by people with many points of views and ideas.

If I inadvertently lean too POV someone will add an "alleged" or something. But when I go to the extreme of actually removing an offending statement to make his objection moot, it makes not sense to me to insist upon putting both statements back in unless of course it is in order to get his bias across.

The only reasonable solution is to simply leave out any mention of The Exorcist one way or the other. Just my reasoned thoughts, thank you for your time. Dwain 02:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

User Talk:Foo

Hi User talk:Foo has been squatted on... for my own reason I would like to take up the user name Foo and pretty much cease using my current (real) name, most of the time. How would one go about getting User talk:Foo deleted so it can be recreated when someone (me) starts using the name User:Foo? TIA! Ga rr ie 05:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Um, belatedly, thanks for the very in-depth coverage of this on my talk page. Ga rr ie 02:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks. I now have 3 less unreferenced pages on my watchlist and am grinning like a loon and am hoping I used the right format, but at least all of the info is there. I am not sure why adding references is making me happy. I must be coming down with something... *wanders off to get her head checked* Morgrim 13:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Ais523/Sandbox/Clock

First of all, great job on the clock. I would have never thought of the possibility of creating an analog clock without using javascript. I just thought that I'd point out something. At certain times, the hour hand is not limited to the div box. The dots sometimes appear to leave the box, with only the center dot still in it. One particular time this happens is at 20:10 (UTC). It is a great clock, and I am considering using it on my userpage. Thanks, Shards of metal [ Talk • Contribs ] 20:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I have noted the template change, so it's all right to have the other template deleted. Also, I added {{{background| and }}} around the background color, to allow custom backgrounds to be specified. I have uploaded Image:Clock background.png to commons, to see about having a clock background. I have not tested it yet though. If you don't like the change, just revert it; I don't have any problems with it since it is your page. Thanks again, Shards of metal [ Talk • Contribs ] 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I've created my own template, which throws a clock background behind the clock. You can see what you think at User:Shardsofmetal/Clock. Tell me what you think. Thanks, Shards of metal [ Talk • Contribs ] 01:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your reply.Tarif Ezaz Bangladesh 16:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

MTV

The history page was loading from cache so I couldn't see the evidence of the revert. Lethaniol told me to force the page to reload (shift/crtl/reload button), and sure enough, that did the trick. LittleOldMe 17:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Newbie

I just noticed your explanation on how to wikify to a newbie on the help desk. It's the friendliest and most extensive effort I've seen in a while, so I've decided to award you with an RAOK barnstar. Keep up the good work! - Mgm|^(talk) 09:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Your response

thanks so much for your patience with a stumbling newcomer ais523! Spinach charm 10:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Working on interlanguage links for Farsi Wikipedia

I'm working on creating better help pages on Farsi Wikipedia. Currently many of pages are a simple translation of English wikipedia. As you see in this first request, I have a problem on making Interlanguage links on English wikipedia help pages and I think we should do it to perform a basic acceptable port of it to Farsi. I want to know if there is any other way for doing that instead of asking for permision on every page.

Thank you. Ammar 10:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Your tools on the edit counter

I've been using your edit counter and it's great! However, one thing has come to my attention: if you hover 'last 2000' it says 'Last 1000'; thought you may want to know! -- Casmith 789 12:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

monobook.js troubles

Thank you very much for your help with my monobook.js file. It works perfectly now. Erich Blume 16:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

A note from Ginny

Thanks so much for your help, I appreciate it. This is all so foreign to me. I went to the page to change my user name, read everything and never found the gray box to make the change. Hate to ask, but can you point this out to me? Thanks.

Also, I toned down the page like you suggested. Do you think I toned it down enough?

Finally, I don't know how to correct choosing two copyrights. I want the most liberal one for other people to use.

Thanks again, and if you can spell it out for me like I'm a five year old, I sure would be greatful.

Best wishes, Ginny —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Virginiamccabe (talk • contribs) 03:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help with the edit count. I am now doing with the interiot. Also check out yours later. Thanks again for help.Tarif from Bangladesh 07:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Unicode symbols on zodiac articles

(Re: WP:NCH) No, don't delete these; they'll show up correctly on some browsers, but other browsers won't have the correct fonts installed to be able to show them. I suggest that you should probably put the symbols back (you can copy them from the page history). Try looking at Wikipedia:Unicode for more information. --ais523 10:19, 26 October 2006 (U T C)

Thanks, I've reverted those deletions. Perhaps the Unicode symbols are unnecessary though? I imagine a lot of people get confused by that. Kris 10:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Cheers that's excellent, the Unicode template works fine I'll update the articles accordingly. Thanks for your help. Kris 11:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

3RR

hi, thanks--yes, i am sure: 71.242.186.236 4x at Joshua Clover. I warned him yesterday--he's been reverting for a while in a WP:VAIN violation--a father adding uncited, irrelevant self-aggrandizing autobiographical info to his own son's entry. I need help with the form of leaving a message for a 3RR admin--my browser won't seem to let me leave a message or copy 'n' paste the form to make the report... Cindery 07:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

no, but thanks

...he didn't make any substantive changes--they were all the same edits (except that he was ruder and more sarcastic towards the end). Per 3RR, that's violation. i tried to leave message at 3RR board; hopefully will get an admin in the morning--need to go to bed. but thanks for trying. I think you misundestood--I'm having a technical prob posting, not a prob figuring out what 3RR is. Cindery 07:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

A Question regarding Editing in Wikipedia

You made this following comment recently on my talk page Ais523; "Changing other's comments, even to correct a typo/grammar, is normally frowned upon. In these cases you made a change inside a template, It's probably best if you don't do that sort of thing any more". --ais523 11:58, 23 October 2006 (U T C)

Since I am a new user Ais523 and I am in the process of learning the ropes, but this comment you made some time ago on my talk page is a little puzzling? I mean is it not the whole idea that we are supposed to contribute in Wikipedia by "editing" and making corrections to articles if we sight them as well as adding fresh new articles?? you have lost me here, Fact Finder 14:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

My subpage

thanks I goofed :) Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 17:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Template:Bartcy status

Spot on. Thank you so much. I am really pleased. - Kittybrewster 21:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

A little something for your efforts

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		I, SFGiants, hereby award this Da Vinci Barnstar to Ais523 for rescuing my editing tools from the Crack of Doom. ςפקι Д Иτς ☺ ☻ 05:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Coloured signature

Thank you for your help :) --Stacey 18:36, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome

Hi, thanks for helping to welcome new users. However, it is better to place the welcome on the talk page than on the user page so that the user is aware that there is a message waiting for them. The user I'm referring to is user:Kateryan.

Thanks again.

LittleOldMe 16:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Sorry if the tone sounded condescending, it was not meant that way.

LittleOldMe 16:55, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Ais, thanks a lot for your kind words on my RFA. I feel humbled and hope to spend even more time guiding newcomers. Do let me know if I can assist you in any way -- Lost^(talk) 14:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

गौरव Thanks and a Barnstar

Ais523,

आपल्या मराठी विकिपिडीयावरील योगदानाबद्दल, विशेषतः मराठी भाषाविषयक योगदानाची कदर म्हणून सर्व मराठी विकिपिडीयन्स तर्फे तुम्हाला हे निशाण बहाल करीत आहे.For your act of kindness towards Marathi Langauge Wikipedia and interwiki co-operation.You are welcome to visit Wikipedia Embassy on Marathi Wikipedia.

मराठी विकिपिडीयावरील मराठी भाषाविषयक योगदानाबद्दल

Mahitgar 09:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Category Watchlist

Hi Ais,
first of all, sorry for my english, I'm writing from the far Italy.
I've seen your script regarding the "category watchlist" and I've tried to import it into it.wiki. It doesn't work (don't worry, I'm not looking for some help). I just want to ask you a thing: Does it work only for IE, or it does for Firefox too? I've seen, into the code, references to Microsoft.XMLHTTP.

bye, --Jalo (imbucare qui)

Ok, I'm simply stupid. I've translated everything but Special:Watchlist into Speciale:Watchlist. Just a thing: it didn't work 'cause into the method cwOntoWatchlist it was tryng to execute a[i].nextSibling.insertBefore(temp,temp2); while temp2 was null.

I've modified it into:

      if (temp2!=null)
        a[i].nextSibling.insertBefore(temp,temp2);
      else
        a[i].appendChild(temp);

and now it works very fine. It's a great job!, bye. --Jalo (imbucare qui)

HTML

Thankyou!

No, I'm having problems in general (been driving me crazy actually), being new to fiddly markup. What I would have liked is white text, black background, talk - contribs afterwards in superscript, time stamp, and if poss a serif font like times new roman. Now, all this may seem simple, but I have been trying to scrape the code together from other peoples sigs, but cant make it work. If you could give a sample line of code to do the above (or near enough), I would be very very grateful, and also would return the favour with any editing stuff you might want done Amists 14:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Mini-sandbox to work on Amists' sig (ais523):

Amists ^{talk • contribs}

Yes, you're right I didnt copy it all. Shine on ais523, you're brilliant :-) Amists ^{talk • contribs} 14:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)