User talk:Adam Keller

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Poul Anderson themes

I noticed you added two paragraphs to the Poul Anderson article about themes in his writings. If they are themes, it might be good to mention examples from more than one book. Just a thought. Liblamb 17:52, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The First Men in The Moon

I was reading this article since I am doing a report on H.G. Wells and saw you added a bunch of analytical details which are great! I just wanted to say thanks and ask where you got them or are they your own ideas? Kramer k 07:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I just got it from the book itself, I think Wells meant his readers to read the book intelligently and not take at face value Bedford's judgement. By the way, if you make a report of Wells' work in general and not just this book, I would advice you to include his "The Shape of Things to Come" from 1934, which is often neglected and in my view unjustly. Adam Keller

In the Presence of Mine Enemies

I see that you are also working on In the Presence of Mine Enemies. Thanks very much for starting the expansion program and for helping me with it. The article is quite huge now though all it needs is a list of characters including real-world ones that appear. Should we start with that section. MyNz 04:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome

Re; Archie Doyle I have picked up a number of references to you under the history tab of this article I have been trying to make contact with the author or anyone else who may have further information about the man. I left messages under the discussion tab and one person replied but so far I have not been able to re-establish contact or to get anything at all about the author Can you advise me? I am new to Wikipedia and not familiar with the protocolsRealmcd (talk) 19:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Re Archie Doyle I am trying to get more information on this person I picked up a number of references to you under the history button Can you advise me on how to make contact with the author of the article? I have left messages under the discussion tab but no response so far I am very untutored in the ways of WikipediaRealmcd (talk) 17:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC) Hope you can helpRealmcd (talk) 19:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Have you ever been welcomed? Just in case:

Welcome!

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Your addition to the article Self-hating Jew

I hope you are familiar with our policies WP:RS, WP:V and especially WP:NOR. Could you provide references? Thanks. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 07:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Your addition to the article Chabad-Lubavitch

I hope you are familiar with our policies WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:V and especially WP:NOR. Could you provide references? Thanks. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 02:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Atlas Shrugged

Your recent addition to the "Reception" section seems a bit rambling and long. The purpose of the section is simply to report the response, not evaluate it. Rather than try to tighten it up myself, I thought I'd suggest that you try your hand at it. Agent Cooper 02:48, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The Prime Minister's Wife

Hello. I have been looking for a reference to the story you mentioned in Magda Goebbels, which sounded interesting. All I found was this [1] post of a guy saying he hadn't heard of it. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks nadav 08:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Unrelatedly, just a suggestion based on some of the posts here. Be careful not to provide your own analysis on texts, since policy in Wikipedia says facts and opinions should come directly from outside sources (and a citation should be provided). nadav 08:51, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

HMS Sword

Thanks for the interesting text. Would you have a chance to add screenshot from Zeman's movie when Sword is flapping away from Nautilus?

HMS Sword is also name of at least one real historical ship: [2]. At some time tt may be good to move the fiction submarine under different name and create disambiguation. Pavel Vozenilek 17:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I could have expected this, "Sword" is a natural name for Englsih-speaking navies to use. I agree that this change should be made, the real ship should have some precedence over the fictional one. About the Zeman film: I am afraid I never saw it, only found some refernces to it on the internet. I have no way of adding film sequences to the page, if you can do it go ahead, it would be a nice addition. Adam keller 20:20, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

PS: I now read the interesting description which you found. If I understand correctly the first lines - "Rushmore (LSD-14) was laid down as HMS Sword 31 December 1943 by Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co., Newport News, Va; launched as Rushmore 10 May 1944" it seems to meand that the Ameroican origianlly built her for the British who intended to call her "HMS Sword" but that in fact, for an unspecified reason, the Americans decided to keep her and call her "Rushmore", and that was the actual name she bore throughout a quite long career. So, in a way, this "HMS Sword" is as fictional as the other one. Adam keller 20:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I have seen Zeman's film couple of times (early Steampunk style, very good movie) but currently have no chance to get it on my machine. Will see.

HMS Sword: there was also "HMS Sword Dance", a WW1 minesweeper. I have no intention to work on British ships, it's just a result of quick googling. Pavel Vozenilek 14:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Taking look on Czech Wiki I discovered that just today someone put exactly the picture I had in mind into the article there. I added it into HMS Sword. You may notice mechanically powered "frog flaps" used to propel the ship (Nautilus used a classic propeller). Pavel Vozenilek 15:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Very good,that's the advantage of Wikipedia - you start something and then it gets a momentum of its own. I like this picture. Adam keller 15:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

There'll always be an england

There is a concern that the lyrics are a copyright violation. Are you able to show that they are out of copyright? Thanks.Mmoneypenny 08:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry,it did not even occur to me that there could be any such problem with a song which is more than sixty year old and whose text appears on HUNDREDS of websites. Here is what I found in exactly three minutes' search on Yahoo: [3],[4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9],[10]. If you go on searching you will find hundreds more (I would not be surprised if it will turn out to be thousands). Are all these people breaking the supposed copyright, and is somebody suing all of them for it? (It could provide several law offices with full employment for several years at least). Or are they all paying royalties (to whom)?

Of course, if turns out there is a real copyright you could wipe the text from the article itself and install instead an outside link to one or more of these websites. A very left-handed way for an encyclopedia to do things,in my view, but far be it from me to cause legal problems to Wikipedia.Adam keller 12:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Oshikawa sources

Hi, I wondered if you could divulge what your source(s) for your nice expansion of the Shunrō Oshikawa article were. Not only would it be nice to add them to the article for future readers, I'm curious as I'd like some more info on scifi of this period. --zippedmartin 00:09, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Most of the information is derived from the doctorate paper presented by Jeffrey M.Angles to the Ohio State University in 2003, which is availalble on the net. The paper is about Murayama Kaita and Edogawa Ranpo, who were Japanese writers of the generation immediately following Shunrō Oshikawa, and it contains several detailed references to him and footnotes giving the names and dates of his books.

I have tried to include a link to this dissertation in the Wikipedia page but it seems not to work - probably because of the program used there. If you could make it work it would be very useful. This is the address: http://www.ohiolink.edu/etd/send-pdf.cgi?acc_num=osu1071535574

It does work when you paste it directly into Google.

I can't claim to be any kind of expert on this subject myself, my only part was to search very hard for useful information, since I became very frustrated to see many mentions of later Twentieth Century film adaptations of his books and hardly any mention of the man himself.

The expert in this case is Jeffrey M.Angles, who seems to be living in Japan at present and is directing an email list about the shakuhachi, which seems to be a peculiarly Japanese musical instrument, difficult to play [11]. He clearly has enormous knowledge about Japanese subjects and I am sure if he could be persuaded to help Wikipedia he could contribute a lot. Adam keller 06:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the information Adam, I guess I should have noticed the dissertation link in the article, but PDFs make me cry so I avoid looking at them unless I have to. Have downloaded now (and would suggest that you want to link http://www.ohiolink.edu/etd/view.cgi?osu1071535574 in the article, it's more polite than bouncing people to stealthed 10 meg blobs too), and see the issue. Though it does provide some good general info on the guy, it's a bit odd using it as a main source as it's really not about him at all. A bit of random searching turned up a possible additional source of "The Gender of Nationalism: Competing Masculinities in Meiji Japan" in the Winter 2002 issue of the Journal of Japanese Studies, which could perhaps be obtained by through Wikipedia:Newspapers and magazines request service and might provide some additional material. Beyond that, I could probably dig up some Japanese bits on the web, though probably nothing scholarly. Do have a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources though, following wikip house style tends to make life easier for readers and other editors like me who otherwise fail at noticing thing... :) --zippedmartin 07:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I see you have done some work on the article. Very good. Of course, I don't know Japanese, so my ability is far more limited. Of course, I should have realised that what got the Nihon SF Taisho award was a book and not a film. Stupid of me! Adam keller 21:59, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Moshe Ayalon

A tag has been placed on Moshe Ayalon, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be a biographical account about a person, group of people, or band, but it does not indicate how or why he/she/they is/are notable. If you can indicate why Moshe Ayalon is really notable, I advise you to edit the article promptly, and also put a note on Talk:Moshe Ayalon. Any admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles. You might also want to read our general biography criteria. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. To contest the tagging and request that admins should wait a while for you to assert his/her/their notability, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and then immediately add such an assertion. It is also a very good idea to add citations from reliable sources to ensure that your article will be verifiable. nadav 09:11, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

As advised, I looked through the Wikipedia guidelines for "notability", and I must say it is true that Moshe Ayalon does not fit most of them, because he is definitely not famous enough in the various ways enumerated there. (But I saw also that these guidelines are not binding.)

The only criteria which in my view jut might fit him is this: 100 year test (future speculation) -- In 100 years time will anyone without a direct connection to the individual find the article useful?"

My reasons for thinking this is applicable is - apart from the fact that I think Ayalon IS going to become famous, but of course I can't prove that - is that even if he never become more famous than he now is, he has a sharp and incisive mind, identifying real issues and dealing with them in an original way which nobody did before him, and writing with considerable literary merit. Re the above 100 year test", it is my opinion that for example a researcher of the Twenty-Second Century writing a doctorate about our time might find it useful to mention Moshe Ayalon in at least a footnote, which in my view is sufficiant reason for Wikipedia to retain the article.Adam keller 17:51, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

London Dock Strike of 1889

Hi Adam. I noticed that you added Category:Roman Catholic Church to the London Dock Strike of 1889 article, and I was curious as to your thinking. Is this because of the reference to Cardinal Manning, or is there more to the story? Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 16:22, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

If you will look at the addition I just made to the Dock Strike article you will see my reasons for thinking this is a significant event in Catholic history as well as in trade union history.Adam keller 23:32, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, that was really interesting. Thanks. --Bookandcoffee 09:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to Hilaire Belloc

You marked your edit with "Reference to September 11 in the context of renewed popularity of Belloc's views and works on Islam is HIGHLY RELEVANT and I don't accept continued deletion of it." Unfortunately, that's how Wikipedia works. People edit continuously and someone may disagree with your edit. Instead of yelling at the editors who remove your reference to the September 11 attacks, perhaps you should bring it up on the talk page. Mapetite526 21:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

That's a good idea,thank you.Adam Keller 21:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Your comments to Katieh5584

About the comments you left on Katieh5584's user page [12], user pages are not the correct place for user comments. I relocated it to her Talk page [13]. That is probably why you have not heard anything back from her. -- Gogo Dodo 19:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I am very sorry about reverting your edits, I now realise I was wrong--Katieh5584 20:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

List of Newspeak words#The problematic Doubleplus

Hi--I'm not sure that the section on "The Problematic Doubleplus" is appropriate for the article List of Newspeak words. I've added a comment on this to the article's discussion page; I'd be very interested in your thoughts on this. Narsil 23:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Mormonism and Judaism

If you'd like to weigh in on the proposed split, I would welcome your view. Kaisershatner 17:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I have no real opinion on whether that article should or should not be split up. I did add a section entitled "Basic irreducible difference" stating some things which need to be mentioned on the Jewish point of view - whether this remains a single article or is split up. I think many Mormons might not fully appreciate that their accptance of Jesus might, in the Jewish view, quite outweigh any similarities that exist between their religion and Judaism. The Jewish negative attitude to Jesus is mainly due to the nasty doings of much earlier Christians, long before the rise of the Latter Day Saints (doings which were certainly contrary to the teachings of Jesus himself as expressed in the New Testament). But whatever its origin, this Jewish attitude is a fundmental fact which must be taken into account.Adam keller 12:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Polish Corridor

Hi, Adam.
I'm writing to you because I have troble understanding the importance of those huge fragments of H.G. Wells "The Shape of Things to Come" (or any metion of his opinion on the subject for that matter) being inserted into the article about the Polish Corridor. Many people of the era - politicians, militarists, historians and ethnographers - wrote about the post WW I Polish German borders. Yet you chose the opinion of a science-fiction writer to occupy most of the article space. Why is it so important to you? (And if it's so important, then maybe it deserves it's own article). Because he predicted WW II? But he "predicted" an international conflict lasting till late 60's resulting in death of over 90% of the Earth's population. Although many people died in WW II it still ended 1945. I don't know if you are aware that Jehovah's Witnesses "predicted" World War One. Does that make all their reasoning true? Are you going to believe everything else they say because of that?
Another important thing:
Was resolving the Polish Corridor question the German way really going to stop the war?
First demand of Hitler after which he promised peace was reintroduction of military conscription.
Then remilitarization of Rhineland.
Then incorporation of Austria.
Then incorporation of Bohemia and creation of Protectorate.
All those demands were met.
At the same time he already started big scale dicrimination of the Jewish population of Germany.
But again nobody did anything. Makes one wonder if it perhaps wasn't the weakness and undecisiveness of other countries, and their lack of any response to Hitler's actions that caused WW II.
(Speaking of predictions: Polish leader Józef Piłsudski in 1934 also predicted the danger of the Nazi ruled Germany and proposed a preemptive strike to Great Britain and France, but nobody did anything.)
This is of course my humble opinion, everybody has a right to have one, Science-Fiction writers too.
In conclusion - I don't think the inclusion of Mr Wells' opinion (accompanied by a ton of quotes or not) into the article has any constructive purpose. I may be wrong of course. For now I'm going to remove the disputed paragraphs from the article. Maybe a better place for them would be the article about the book, I don't know. I'm open for discussion, though. Happy editing! Space Cadet 00:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Certainly, by 1939 the Polish Corridor was no more than an excuse for Hitler and if it was not there he would have found another excuse. The point which Wells tried to make was that this - and the entire Versailles Agreement of which it was a prominent part - contributed greatly to Hitler getting power in Germany in the first place. The relevant thing for the Wikipedia article is that it gives in detail the arguments why creation of the Polish Corridor was justified, but not one word of the opposing arguments, which is not NPOV. (I get the feeling that at least some parts of the article were written by partiotic Poles, which is all right as long as theirs is not the only point of view represented.) Wells, though nowadays remembered mainly as a Science Fiction writer, was also very much of a political writer, and actually the book quoted (like much of his later writing) is more a political essay dressed up as science fiction than a true SF book. I felt that Wells presented in a logical and cogent way the case against the Polish Corridor, and that he could not be accused of pro-Nazi bias (the Nazis burned his books and placed him on the list of people to be immediately liquidated in the event of a succesful invasion of Britain). Perhaps I was too lazy in just copying and pasting the text which is available online (and which I think is well-written) and I should have just extracted the main counter-arguments and placed them in the same format as the arguments in favor of the Polish Corridor.Adam keller 17:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I buy that. Space Cadet 20:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

My reply is on my talk page. Balcer 18:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Bring the Jubilee

Adam, I was wondering whether your comments on the more recent trilogy are appropriate in an encyclopedia article. The words "seems to" suggest that this is one reader's interpretation. In order to validate this, we need something less subjective. A statement from one of the authors would be ideal. A published book review might be good enough; we could at least say "according to so-and-so."

If it's just your own interpretation, I grant that it's an interesting one, but there are many other places on the Internet where it should appear rather than Wikipedia. -- Rob C (Alarob) 02:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

The trilogy starts from the same premise as the Moore book and then goes off in an opposite direction. That is an objective fact which can be determined from just looking at their respective plots. I have no direct proof that it was consciously intended as such by the authors of the trilogy, and in theory you might suppose it is a pure coincidence. Still, the fact that it was published precisely fifry years after the Moore book (1953 and 2003) plus the fact that the Moore book is a classic in the subgenre of Civil War alternate history, which is likely to be known to anybody writing new books of the kind, seems to be at least "circumastantial evidence". Adam keller 10:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Nicknames on page titles

After reviewing policy, I agree with your viewpoint and have made the appropriate changes. Jackk 01:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate this.Adam keller 01:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Prabowo: an explanation

Re Prabowo I didn't really look at it yet and will get back to you soon. I removed the pov tag simply because a vandal had hijacked the template and it was showing an obscene picture. This has been happening a bit lately and when I went to report it others had also found it on other articles. Great work and I will get back to you soon. THe person who reverted my removal of the tag was the person who fixed up the vandalised template.Merbabu 01:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

ha ha. I see you approached the editor in question. I replied on his page to both of you. Click here: [14]. Merbabu 02:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

further...

Your work improved the article a fair bit. I did some work on the Prabowo article, but i think it is still a problem. Generally, in my opinion much of the content is unsourced opinion. Although it is opinion I personlly agree with, it is not quite up to encyclopedia quality. I made some comments here. Hopefully you or I or both can revisit the article soon. regards Merbabu 03:44, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Adam, the best place I can suggest for good sources is a library - ha ha. As for the internet, non spring to mind straight away but my recommendation is for something academic and scholarly. On such a controversial figure like Prabowo, there is bound to be a lot of sensationalist but poor quality sites around. I have a new book called Indonesian Destinies by Theodore Friend that has a lot of Prabowo refs in the index. But Prabowo is far from my wiki priority at the moment. How about you post a message in this board here asking for ideas: [15]. In the meantime, i will try but not promise to see what is in that book. Maybe in the meantime have a look at what can be found in google. I find though that the best journal sources are "locked" in online databases which one must either pay for or have a subscription. Merbabu 14:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I quite agree that a library is the best place to look. Unfortunatly, I don't see any reason to assume that I would have a chance to visit a library in the next two or three months (at a conservative restimate). I have a quite busy life, I can do things on Wikipedia in odd feww moments in between a big load of other work done on the computer, often late at night. I have no practical possibility to go and spend hours travelling to and from the Tel-Aviv University Libarary (the nearest worthwhile university to my home) and many more hours doing serious research in the library - much as I would have loved doing it for this and may other subjects. In practical terms, I am restricted to whatcan be located online. Will try to take yur advice and posst arequest for help at [16].Adam keller 14:32, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi

I notice we are sort of coinciding - I have noticed the sunan giri and gresik edits. I am constantly trying to tag the smallest of indonesian geographic stubs so we can eventually work out how many we have (!) I have a large amount of referencces and material on each of the wali sanga which I have simply not had the time to put on wikipedia yet - oh well too little time - so much to do SatuSuro 14:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I blundered into this quite by chance. I have actually started to work on the Chinese Indonesian article which is in an atrocious condition of completely disconnected pieces with no coherent chronological order, and I noticed a reference to some of the Wali Sanga having come from China, but no further details. I went looking for such and saw that there was much to do on the Sunan Giri article, so I started doing it, though he plainly has no Chinese bacground. But probably you are much better qualified than me to work on this subject. Do you have any information on those Wali Sanga who have a Chinese bacground? (I saw that Raden Patah was said to be the son of a Chinese princess.)Adam Keller 14:25, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

By the way, did anybody before me remar on the similaity between Sunan Giri's origin story and that of Moses?

Answer one ----

Author: Graaf, H. J. de (Hermanus Johannes), 1899- (theyure a slack library they havent even put his death in!) Title: Chinese Muslims in Java in the 15th and 16th centuries : the Malay Annals of Semarang and Cerbon / translated and provided with comments by H.J. de Graaf and Th.G.Th. Pigeaud ; edited by M.C. Ricklefs. Publisher: [Melbourne] : Monash University, 1984. Description: xiii, 221 p. : folded map ; 21 cm. ISBN:0867464194 : Series: Monash papers on Southeast Asia ; no. 12

I could spend a long time describing all this... but its late.

Answer two ---

Author Florida, Nancy K. Title: Writing the past, inscribing the future: history as prophesy in colonial Java / Nancy Florida. Publisher: Durham, N.C. : Duke University Press, 1995.. ISBN: 0822316056 0822316226 (paper) Notes:Includes a translation and critical analysis of Babad Jaka Tingkir. Includes bibliographical references([p. [427]-439) and index.

I think she does

Comment three - I have a friend who did his MA in Asian studies on the babad sunan giri - I havent shown him the atrocious article yet. havent seen him for a while! SatuSuro 14:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

May Thanks, I don't now if I could easily trac these boo but I will try.Adam Keller 14:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I have easy access to both but dont own copies - will try to get details from them in about a month or so SatuSuro 15:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

That will be useful and welcome, whenever you can do it. Meanwhile, I already placed the infomation on the de Graaf boo among the refereces on the Chinese Indonesian#References article,as well as on the Cirebon article. Is the Nancy K. Florida boo a specific work on the Chinese Indonesians which deserves to be mentioned there?Adam Keller 15:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Animal names as first names in Hebrew

Interesting list, but pure WP:OR. Please provide references, currently I don't think it might pass a speedy delete. --Shuki 22:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry to say I don't understand what the hell you are talking about. Most of these names have their own Wikipedia articles to which I have created links, and each of these articles says exactly where in the Bible the name mentioned occurs. I just put it all together for the convenience of people who might be interested. Where is the "Original Reserch" here? Of course, if you insist, I can go into each of the seperate articles and copy the references into this article. I think this would wasted effort, anyone inrested could find the references in the specfic articles, but of course it can be done. In any case, I see no reason for a speedy delete or any kind of delete. Adam Keller 23:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Nice language. Do you get offended at every little bit of criticism? It's only WP, sheesh. Anyway, I suggest moving the name to "list of animal names as given names in Hebrew" or something like that. --Shuki 20:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

That's fone with me, but is not the same as "speedy delete".Adam Keller 13:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Adam Keller court martial upr for deletion

It's up for deletion here. JASpencer 18:49, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Adam, The deletion of the article was an act of political censorship initiated by an Israel who is less enlightened than yourself. I would be happy to open a review of the deletion, but in order to do so we need to address the reasons those who voted in favour of deletion put forward. Most important is to show that this incident is noteworthy, i.e. worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. This requires references to other publications which report the incident (e.g. newspaper issues, articles in book and journals). Can you provide these? The other complaint was about the autobiographical nature of the article. In effect you are being penalised being open and honest enough to write in your own name. Good luck Abu ali 09:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

The Big Four is not an inspiration for the Big Three

If you want to create an article, create it. Don't append something that does not apply to a historical WP:CAL California article. Ronbo76 00:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I saw now that "Big Four" was already used after the First World War for "the four leaders of the most powerful nations who attended the Paris Peace Conference, 1919. They were: Woodrow Wilson (American President), David Lloyd George (British Prime Minister), Vittorio Orlando (Italian Premier), and Georges Clemenceau (French Premier). These four leaders were responsible for devising the Treaty of Versailles". I think that since this was half a century after the Railroad Big Four, the term was probably influenced by them, and the WWII Big Three by the ones of WWI rather than directly. Anyway, I did not notice when making this edit that there were already pages full of various "Big Three"s and "Big Four"s so you are right, I should have left the railroad Big Four alone in their own page. Adam Keller 00:43, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

request for history only undeletion of Adam Keller court matial

Have a look at [[17]] Abu ali 10:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I have opened a deletion review here [18]. It is best if you do not participate directly in this as this could be taken as a violation of WP:COI. Abu ali 11:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mr Keller. What would you answer to this? [19] Thanks Abu ali 08:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

There are two systems of judging soldiers. "Disciplinary proceeding" by a commanding officer, held in camera in his bureau without lawyers or witenesses and with the punishment restricted to 28 days, is very common. A full court martial, with three judges of whom at least one must be a jurist, which is held in public with lawyers and witnesses and press coverage, can give a much longer sentence but it can (and is) used for political speeches and gets considerable attention.That is why the army resorts to it only once a decade or so, and each case is memorable, is noticed by the press and by peace activists who make an effort to be present. The 280 cases that are refered to are of "disciplinary" instant trials in camera, not full court martials. The army does often use the full court martial against soldiers who broke discipline for non-political reasons (for example, desertion, being rude to an officer etc.). In non-political cases, the army feelks free because they get no press attention. Adam Keller 09:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... Abu ali 09:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Adam Keller article

I have created a new article, Adam Keller. It needs a lot more work.

Although it is not forbidden, Wikipedia does not encourage people to write their autobiographies. You may wish to look at Wikipedia:Autobiography for the policy and discussion on this. But of course, no-one wants to see an incomplete or inaccurate article, so please help by suggesting further sources, and by commenting in the Talk:Adam Keller page. RolandR 13:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Racism in Israel

Hi Mr Keller. Welcome back, and I hope your travels were good. I am afraid that our best efforts were unable to save the court martial article. On another subject, I was wondering whether you could help with the question of racism in Israel in both Racism and Racism by country. If you look at the talk pages of these articles you can see that a number of editors have been involved in acrimonious exchanges with american "supporters of Israel" who are whitewashing and mention of racism in Israel. Your voice, as an Israeli who has been courageous in the battle against racism, may get a better response, especially if you are backed up by reliable sources. warmest regards Abu ali 20:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Shmuel Yerushalmi

I see a pattern here. Right wingers would like peace minded Israelis to disappear from WP if not from society as a whole. I had already said my bit on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shmuel_Yerushalmi but I am sure you could add some more good arguments. Enjoy your holiday. Abu ali 23:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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I hope you don't mind - http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Adam_Keller , it does feel awkward to edit a page of someone you can interact with... however, i believe my edits were done without much prejudice and with accordance to reliable sourcing. Jaakobou 15:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

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In your edit from 12 March 2007^[20], you've added information about "orpha and ruth being sisters", which seems to be an obvious error. I've reverted the paragraph and moved it to the talk page so you can make a case for your edit.^[21] Jaakobou 17:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing the missing Ruth Rabbah reference, I have now put it in. Adam Keller 23:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

your notes are not welcome on my page. i can easily look up changes in articles i edit. and may i suggest, you try employing some accuracy in your statements and quotes - you seem to have a unique ability at manipulating even the simplest of storylines - such as leaving out the validity level of ruth rabbah. Jaakobou 01:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't understand this remark. I could have reciprocated and said that YOUR notes are not welcome on MY page, but I would not do it. What are these pages for, except for Wikipedians to communicate with each other? And what "validity level"? Surely you don't think that Ruth and Orpah were actual persons and that some sources are more reliable than others in determining who they "really" were and what their realtions to each other were? There was one version of the story in the Bible, other versions in later Jewish sources. It is certainly relevant to mention what kind of sources they were, as you did. But what has "validity" to do with it? Adam Keller 18:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Adam, do you have a source for a "heated naming dispute" between the terms Schleswig and Sønderjylland? I never heard that. Both terms are used in danish language. Slesvig is mostly used in connection to the fiefdom Schleswig, while Sønderjylland is more used as a geographic or national term. By the way, Schleswig/Slesvig is not (only) a german name, regards, --89.62.165.247 21:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Some years ago I have written a paper at the Tel Aviv University on the 19th Century sturggle between the Danes and the Germans, and I clearly remember that at some time in the 1830s the Germans were very incensed at a map pubished by a Danish cartographer named Olsen where the territory was named Sønderjylland. The Olsen Map was considered one of the factors leading to escalation between the two sides which ended with outright war in 1848..Adam Keller 22:02, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I would not say, that the use of Sønderjylland was one of the (deciding) factors leading to the escalation of 1848 (Sønderjylland was just an older term). But you have right, if you write, that many danes (especially in that time) prefer the term Sønderjylland. Between the 16. century and the 19. century the term Sønderjylland was hardly in use. First in the 19. century in the beginning of the national conlicts many danes reanimate the old term. Nevertheless both terms are (and was) in use in Danmark. In addition i would not write that Schleswig/Slesvig is a german name, best regards --89.62.165.247 22:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I have re-written the part, incorporating your information. I hope the result is satisfactory to you...Adam Keller11:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Adam. I'm still not sure, whether the term Schleswig assumed a "clear German nationalist character". Maybe you mean the term Schleswig-Holstein? (this term was a clear political message, maybe in the same way Sønderjylland was). First in combination with Holstein it became a political and nationalistic connotation (the Germans claim of a combined Schleswig-Holstein under the german confederation). But otherwise i think it's a good extension, Thanks a lot and best regards,--77.128.195.88 06:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

You are quite right, I remember very clearly from my studies of the issue that the comination "Schleswig-Holstein" was very central to the German claims. And it is a fact that "Schleswig-Holstein" was the name which ended up being applied to the territory ultimately left in German hands, just as "Sønderjylland" ended up being the name on the Danish side. So I adjusted the article accordingly, I think now we should be in complete agreement. I think this was a very useful cooperation...Adam Keller 22:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

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Sorry, I was under the impression that what appears in one Wikipedia article can be copied to another, I was not aware of this limitation.Adam Keller 18:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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I did it. Don't know how it happened that I created this double article, but anyway, no harm done. Adam Keller 18:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Sorry, I have changed no dates. The only thing I did was remove the comma which was enclosed within the square brackets May 10, and thus led nowhere, and made it May 10, so that a reader could get to the well-established page for this date. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. Adam Keller 13:09, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

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Archie Doyle

I am trying to get further information on this man I picked up a number of references to you under the history tab Can you help me? I would like to contact the author or anyone else who might have information about him I have left messages under the discussion tab and one person replied but so far i have been unable to establish contact I would welcome your advice - I am very new to Wikipedia and not familiar with the protocols Hope you can helpRealmcd (talk) 20:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I can't help you. I have created the pages on the three people who assasinated Kevin O'Higgins and I spent some months collecting any piece of information I could find on the net. I am sure that there is more info to be found in written records, and certainly there must be much more to be found in Ireland. However, I am living in Israel and have only a limited time to give to Wikipedia. If I had any more information I would have already put it on the page. I would be very happy myself to hear any further information you succeed to find - I am very curious about these points myself. Yours, Adam Keller Adam Keller 23:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou Adam. I have a couple of queries which i hope you can find time to answer. The last line of the article mentions jokes and "tall tales" circulating on Irish websites. Can you give me a link? I am also intrigued as to why an Israeli would have an interest in Kevin O'Higgins and the people who assassinated him!Realmcd (talk) 00:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I thought that I had included a link, but it seems I did not. I remember a kind of funny story about Archie Doyle and his friends robbing a bank but getting a ticket because their getaway car was in a place forbidden for parking, or something of the kind. It was some Irish nationalist website which - unless it was taken off at sometime in the past year - must still be there. I think I found it originally just by looking for "Archie Doyle" on Google.

As to why I am interested - well, first of all I studied history in Tel Aviv University and in principle everyhing in world history, ancient or modern, interests me. Also, there are quite a few similarities between the conflict in Ireland and our situation here with the Palestinians. Specifically, I see a similarity between the Irish/British situation in 1922 and the Palestinian/Israeli situation in 2000, only that here the crucial decision went the other way - i.e., when Arafat rejected what Barak considered "generous offers" in the 2000 Camp David Conference, that is in essence as if Michael Collins would have rejected the offers of Lloyd George in 1922 and the British would have responded with escalated violence all over Ireland (which is what Israel had been doing in the Palestinian territories since 2000). So this period in Irish history is of special interest to me and my friends in Israel. I have some sympathy for both Kevin O'Higgins, who felt that what the British offered was the best which the Irish could get in the given situation, and the people who killed him and who thought he was a traitor. Both were acting, in opposite ways, for what they considered the best for their country. In the context of Wikipedia, I thought both deserved to have a page. Adam Keller 12:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Adam. I know the article you referred to. The bank robbery story came from a magazine called 'New Hibernia, which so far I have been unable to trace. I think it must have been a republican magazine that is no longer published. There is a 'New Hibernia Review' which is not the one in question. If it is ok with you I would like to copy our discussion above onto my talk page. I am anxious to establish contact with someone called Izzie11 who replied to an earlier query and who thinks they are related to Archie Doyle. So far I have not been able to get a response but I think it more likely that Izzie11 would read my talk page rather than yours.

re your interest - I can see your point. I know little about the details of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict but the age old situation where one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter is there for all to see. Recent developments in Northern Ireland may offer a ray of hope. If such bitterly divided people can actually sit in the same room and negotiate there must be a glimmer of optimism. Of course out of the headlines there is still terrible enmity - the hardliners on both sides stick to their goals and see any concession as an act or treachery. I think that progress to peace will be a slow process with hiccups and may well take several generations. I have a theory that some people are born (genetically ordered, hard wired, whatever you call it) to be revolutionaries. Every requirement could be conceded and still the squabbling, fighting and killing would go on. I think this is one reason why revolutionaries around the globe help each other even though there are perhaps no common aims.

What a gloomy outlook in this season of goodwill! However if you stand back far enough to take it all in you might agree that this is how nature works - it is normal rather than exceptional. The long term hope is that evolution is still happening and in another millennium or so the peace gene will supersede the war gene. In the meantime the world needs more couragious individuals who are prepared to stand against the tide. I get the impression you might be one of those. Happy Christmas from a committed agnostic to a 'Jewish' man - if you can get your head around that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Realmcd (talk • contribs) 14:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I am actually also agnostic, though being ethnically Jewish. Thanks for the compliment - I do feel ready "to stand aginanst the tide" (at this moment I am involveing in preparing for a demonstration in Tel Aviv against the stupid war in Gaza which "my" government seems to have determined upom). Wheterh I am "couragious" I should leave to others to judge. As for your request - of course, go ahead an copy anything of this discussion wherever it could help you. And by the way, I do think that the webpage in which I swa this folk tale or whatever you call was indeed either directly of 'New Hibernia' or quoting it. Good luck! Adam Keller 23:01, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I had some contact with Mairead Maguire, the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate from North Ireland who is often coming here and involving herself in our struggles [22]. She also made the same point of morerade optimism. Adam Keller 23:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC).

The Languages of Pao

I saw on the history page of The Languages of Pao that you have contributed significantly to the Plot summary of that book. I've just reread it and made some small changes. Perhaps you would care to review it? Debresser (talk) 20:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I was away from my computer for some time and only now saw your message. I quite like your additions. I think that what still needs to be done in this article is to collect the various samples and analisis of the different languges and include them in the article.Adam Keller 13:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

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