User talk:ATC/January—August 2009/Archive 4
Hi ATC, welcome to the project. Since you said you're willing to offer help, i'd like your opinion on this article. Do you have any suggestions on how it can be improved? Cheers! John Sloan (view / chat) 03:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
New empty articlesA friendly bit of advice - you might want to add a {{Underconstruction}} tag to articles you push out with no content other than infoboxes. I understand you're working on them, but people doing new pages patrol might tag them for deletion. Cheers! §FreeRangeFrog 05:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC) The Naked Brothers Band episodesI understand you were working on those episode articles but it's inappropriate to leave underconstruction tags for weeks at a time, especially since you clearly went to work on others things. Since the articles weren't anything more than just infobox placeholders, I have redirected them all back to List of The Naked Brothers Band episodes. If you have actual content to add there, (and it should more than in-universe details) just undo the redirect and add it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)  A tag has been placed on Great Trip (TV episode), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template A tag has been placed on Been There, Rocked That (TV special), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template Son-Rise: A Miracle of Love GA ReviewI've done the review on the article Son-Rise: A Miracle of Love and I've had to fail it, it's just not up to "Good Article" standards, I've left comments on the talk page for you. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the GA criterias as well. MPJ-DK (talk) 05:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC) The Tic Code GARHi, I have placed the GAN on hold - there are some points that need to be addressed. Please see Talk:The Tic Code#GA_Review. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2009 (UTC) Re: The Naked Brothers Band (TV series) You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. March 2009
Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't l logged in. I'm User:ATC. Please put it on my talk page. ATC . Talk 19:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC) Re:The Naked Brothers Band: The MovieThe WP:HATNOTE says "Not to be confused with Camp Rock, Camp Rock 2, or Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience." If a person typed in The Naked Brothers Band looking for this movie, why the heck would they be confused with a Jonas Bothers movie with a completely different name? I think those links are more appropriate for a see also section. Reywas92Talk 01:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Naked Brothers Band Episodes / TV SpecialsHello. I have a few questions for you that hopefully you can answer for me. 1. Where can I find a source/proof that "No School Fool's Day" is actually an episode? Thanks for your help. JLKTENNIS43 (talk) 03:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: ReferencesYou can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Naked Brothers BandWhen I last looked at the article, I saw some serious problems in the well-written department, and if I remember correctly, I suggested a copyedit by the league of copyeditors. I'll follow up with a full review in the coming 24 hours. - Mgm|(talk) 08:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC) Copyedit RequestI appreciate the request, however I am currently swamped with non-wikipedia responsibilities and don't have time to tackle an article. Sorry for not being able to help. Hopefully I will be able to help you in the future. GL with the article. Washburnmav (talk) 01:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Toni SeawrightGood job on the revisions of Toni Seawright. I've revised my !vote on the AfD. I could probably go ahead and close it early myself, but I'll let a neutral admin take a look at it, to be safe. I'm pretty sure it'll be closed with a keep, though. —C.Fred (talk) 17:09, 12 May 2009 (UTC) Naked Brothers copyeditI've done it. Can you go through it and remove the repeat occurrences of the people's full names. Full names only need to be used once, and after that only the surname is used (normally), but since this is about some kids, and some people have the same surname, it should be ok to use the first naems for kids and surnames for adults. Also for future writing, contractions like "won't" are not allowed on Wikipedia -> "will not". Another technique that I use a lot is to try and avoid using the same noun in the sentence more than once because it is considered clumsy, eg "A + N did this and A said" --> "A + N did this and the former/latter said". A lot of the changes were because of that. A good guide is the prose manual on teh user page of Tony1 (talk · contribs). Are you looking at A FAC? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 05:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Replied YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC) DIR/FloortimeI followed up at Talk:Autism therapies #DIR/Floortime. Eubulides (talk) 06:15, 18 May 2009 (UTC) The Naked Brothers Band: The Movie GA reviewHi, I have reviewed this article as the original reviewer seems to have lost interest. It is on hold for a few minor adjustments. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:24, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Well done YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 04:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar if you meant it for me? Jezhotwells (talk) 22:14, 31 May 2009 (UTC) Regarding citations in the ledeHi, I saw your question over at Jezhotwell's talk page. In general, citations are not required in the lede. See WP:Lead#Citations. Normally they are not required in the plot summary either, since the source is the film itself. decltype (talk) 05:27, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Responding to this thread on my talk page. First of all, great work on the article so far; it's come on leaps and bounds since I last looked at it. I'm especially pleased to see a good-sized section on the development and production, written from an out of universe perspective; many film articles seem content just to rehash plot and character details—yours doesn't. As it stands, I don't think the article is quite ready for FAC.
If I were reviewing the article, I wouldn't insist upon a "Themes" or "Interpretations" section; for a film of this type, I don't see that it's within the article's scope, so that's OK. However, I would consider it not comprehensive if it lacked critical reception, release and audience reception details (should these be available). These are especially important for assessing the film's impact, which is a major facet of a standard film article's encyclopedic content. Reviews can perhaps be sourced from one (or more) of three time periods: when it first appeared at the film festival; when it was first broadcast; when it was released on DVD. There may also be some retrospective coverage, and perhaps a review from a publication that targets the same intended audience would be appropriate (teen magazines, etc). By "release", I mean details of its first appearance at the Hamptons festival (which you already have) alongside television broadcast dates and DVD release dates. Audience reception would cover things such as television viewing figures, DVD sales and popularity (it spawned a TV series, so people must have liked it). Some of the more surprising claims may need supporting citations alongside those that point direct to interviews and webcasts from the Draper/Wolff family (e.g. that Alex learned to play the saxophone at the age of two). These are my initial thoughts, and while I'm sure I haven't covered everything, I don't think there's anything else major to add in terms of how the article is structured and what type of information it presents (though whether it comprehensively does so is something only an extended hunt for sources will reveal). One small point to consider: be wary of expanding what is in the cited articles with your own personal knowledge. For example, the statement that "Nat wrote his first song, titled "Mama Don't Let Me Cry", at the age of five" is not fully supported by the cited article, which simply states that "Nat ... has been writing music since he was 5." Every line in the article needs to be verifiable; even if you know something to be true, including it without a cast-iron citation might be considered original research. Otherwise, nice work. I hope to see the article at FAC at some point in the future. All the best, Steve T • C 13:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)  Jezhotwells has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching! Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}! thanks Jezhotwells (talk) 02:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC) You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. TV showSure. Anything in particular? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
FACIf you take a look at the WP:FAC page, you will see your nomination at the top of the page (except for Matthew Boulton, which was just nominated after yours). The newest nominations go to the top of the page, and that's why I fixed your nomination. In addition, the next time you nominate a FAC, make sure to follow the instructions at the top of the page. I already added the template for you on the talk page so that visitors who go to the talk page will have a direct link to the FAC nomination. If you need further clarification, let me know, and best wishes on your nomination. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 21:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Copy edit requestHi ATC, I'm pretty swamped at the moment, but I'll have a look to see what needs to be done and get back to you in a few days if that's okay. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 21:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
The Naked Brothers BandReplied here. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC) Sorry I didnt get back to you sooner (regarding the Spinal Tap/Brothers request) - Im not sure Im a good source to confer on this topic. I havent been very active on the site in sometime. I believed all of my photos were of fair use and well attributed. However over time theyve been edited and many of the credible attributions were disputed to the point I felt it wasnt worth fighting for them further. I also saw blatant conflicts emerge a couple years back when the creater of Wiki edited his own bio, deleting some past indiscretions. Growing contradictions left me a little cold to spending much time contributing. Might want to consult one of the major managers! Nat & Alex imagesHave a look at this image & site. Then have a look at the Hannah Montana wiki article that provides an explanation to use a photo. So, possibly if the photo is "promotional" it's usable. Also, you could contact Nickelodean and ask for a promotional image which would then belong to you, and you could use it. Hope that is helpful. I posted on the thread above about the cliches -- am almost done with the article.Truthkeeper88 (talk) 23:39, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Naked Brothers questionI don't understand this sentence from the "Reception" section, first sentence, fourth paragraph: The premiere of the series acquired the channel as favorable for children aged 6-11. It either should be deleted or reworded. I can reword if you explain what the sentence should say. Editing titlesJust so you know, I'll start copyediting for titles according to WP:TITLE. The name of a TV show is in italics; the name of an individual episode in quotation marks, and so on. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Done (I think)Basically I've finished copyediting. The article is looking better and seems to read better. At this point my largest concern are the redundancies, but I've decided to leave as is, and if any reviewers mention them I'd be happy to return and help eliminate repetition. Have a look at the article and let me know if you think anything else needs to be done. Once I've signed off I'll take down the copyedit banner. Btw -- the images really look nice! Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Per this comment, I've withdrawn the FAC. Leave the {{FAC}} template on the article's talk page until the bot has done its thing, and good luck next time! Steve T • C 14:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC) Future copyeditsHi. I haven't forgotten about you and The Naked Brothers, but due to my admonishment am deep in research for a little while. Please post on my talk page (so I can preserve it) your recommendations for improvements to the article, and I'll work on it while you're on holiday. I've enjoyed working with you. Enjoy yourself while you're gone! Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Recovered Journeys Through the Autism Spectrum... pageHi I noticed you've made some changes to the page I started for the film RECOVERED Journeys Through the Autism Spectrum and Back. I have a jpg of the movie poster that I would like to upload, but since I am a new contributor to wikipedia, it seems I do not have permissions. Do you have a way to upload jpgs? If so could I send it to you to add to the page? Thanks! --Arttwin (talk) 06:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC) Thanks for the help! Image is up.--Arttwin (talk) 19:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Adam Lambert straw poll on including/removing "Order #" and "Results" columns from the performances sectionHi, this may seem rather trivial but I'm trying to gauge community consensus on including or removing "Order #" and "Results" columns from the performances section on the Adam Lambert article which you have been in some way recently involved. The poll is here. Your time is appreciated. -- Banjeboi 21:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC) Okay, I will. Thanx for inviting me! ATC . Talk 03:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC) FACHiya. User:Dabomb87 and I have refactored the FAC page a bit. All the de-fragmented discussion threads were getting difficult to follow. I've also left a couple more replies. Best, Matthewedwards : Chat 02:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Bobby NewmanAlas, my Wiki time will be limited in the near future. Perhaps in a couple of weeks.... Eubulides (talk) 02:20, 12 August 2009 (UTC) Orphaned non-free image (File:Jonathan Pillot in The Naked Brothers Band- The Movie.jpg) If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. FileBot (talk) 23:04, 21 August 2009 (UTC) Orphaned non-free image (File:NatWolff-NBB Movie Crazy Car.jpg)If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. FileBot (talk) 07:09, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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