Jump to content

User talk:98.191.14.194

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unregistered editors using this IP address received messages on this talk page years ago. Since users of the IP address have likely changed, these messages have been removed. They can be viewed in the page history.

September 2024

[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Storrs, Connecticut, you may be blocked from editing. History shows the talk page shows there isn't consensus for a move. stop. R0paire-wiki (talk) 00:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at XL Center. R0paire-wiki (talk) 00:55, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect @R0paire-wiki, take a look at the facts. There is no basis for any claim of disruptive editing, because in fact, Storrs-Mansfield is the correct name for this community on multiple counts. You, nor any other user, has no right to ban anyone for editing in the upmost truthful way on Wikipedia, with a full slew of official and suitable references as I have. Storrs-Mansfield is the official and truthful name of the community that includes the University of Connecticut. By reversing any edit that includes the correct name of Storrs-Mansfield, you yourself are being disruptive. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 01:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then please enter into discussion at the articles' talk pages to convince us that the name is not only official but also the name commonly used to refer to the community. —C.Fred (talk) 01:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@C.Fred, did you take a look at any of the many official and community-based references I properly added to the article to support the edit? Recall that many of them were from official Town of Mansfield documents and webpages - and refer to the number of businesses, utilities, and bespoke references.
There is no need for "convincing" since this is the correct and truthful name of the community. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 01:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By your logic, where is Mansfield? —C.Fred (talk) 01:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, it is not "by my logic", but the truth - to wit: The Town of Mansfield lies approximately at 41 degrees, 49 minutes north and 72 degrees, 15 minutes west by longitude and latitude, encompassing the entirety of ZIP Code Tabulation Areas ZCTA5 06268, ZCTA5 06269, and ZCTA 06250 (in the Census sense) and ZIP Codes 06268, 06269, and 06250 (in the Postal sense) anchored from the south by Windham, from the west by Coventry, from the north by Willington and a small portion of Ashford, and from the east by Chaplin. Mansfield lies approximately 25 miles east of Hartford, 25 miles north of Norwich, and 35 miles west of the Connecticut-Rhode Island border.
Storrs-Mansfield exists in the ZIP Code area of 06268, which completely encompasses 06269 as well.
Mansfield Center exists in the ZIP Code area of 06250, due south of Storrs-Mansfield.
The Town of Mansfield is the municipality that controls these three areas. In Connecticut, there does not exist a county government system (anymore).
Census-designated places within the Town of Mansfield include Mansfield Center and, in question, a CDP labeled "Storrs" that importantly does not geographically contain half of the businesses or residences in the true Storrs-Mansfield! CDPs, as famously and commonly known, only exist for statistical purposes, have no legal standing or quality, and do not line up with official boundaries or ideas. ZIP Codes, not only supersede CDPs legally, more importantly represent the actual sense of community and town in which people live and businesses operate.
Also, remember that in New England (including Connecticut), towns and cities are considered differently than where you're from. Did that answer your question? Look, it's obvious this isn't vandalism and is rooted in verifiable and official sources. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 01:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And you did not add any references when you edited University of Connecticut—which, per their website, is in Storrs. —C.Fred (talk) 01:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not true.[1][2] 98.191.14.194 (talk) 01:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you attempt to make disruptive edits to Wikipedia. —C.Fred (talk) 01:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at User talk:R0paire-wiki. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Please seek consensus on the talk page of Storrs, Connecticut for your edits, instead of attacking my talk page with fake warnings. R0paire-wiki (talk) 01:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@R0paire-wiki You're the one that's mass-undoing correct information, perpetuating falsehoods. The edits in question have many numerous official and substantial references and citations and it is inappropriate to undo such edits. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 01:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are also reliable sources stating Storrs as it's own place. You need to achieve consensus, especially when the talk page previously shows WP:COMMONNAME did not support such changes. R0paire-wiki (talk) 01:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When it comes to place names, here you are choosing "who to believe". Do you believe the municipality, who actually governs, maintains, manages, and regulates the community in question - at the local level?
Do you believe the US Postal Service, which maintains the official resource of community place names and boundaries at the federal level?
Do you believe the citizens who actually live there, do business there, or visit?
Do you believe Cousin Sherm, who hasn't even heard of the place before the discussion?
In this case, everyone agrees - and the official sources are there - the truthful place name is Storrs-Mansfield. It's actually cast in metal on the Post Office itself. It's on all of the town materials and official addresses. You can't argue with that. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 01:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter if you use that name, that is WP:OR - Wikipedia is based around WP:RS; and forming consensus when an edit is disputed. It is evident not "everyone agrees" based on the fact previous edits at Storrs, Connecticut did not achieve consensus. Even your edits to the University of Connecticut are disputed by it's own website.[3]
Having to get consensus for disputed edits isn't up for debate, it is a policy as part of the Five pillars. R0paire-wiki (talk) 02:07, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Encyclopedias used to be publications of fact and truth. A reliable resource. Looks like that's not the case, at least in some element, anymore. If everyone in your circle called Nowheresville, ID "R0pairetown, KY" that just isn't correct.
The reference you attempt to use to corroborate your idea that "Storrs" is the name literally leads to an Error 404 Page Not Found screen. That's not going to work, buddy. Remember that the USPS is in charge of addresses and place names. I can claim that UConn is in Gurleyville, CT. It isn't, and it isn't in "Storrs" either.
Hell, someone who enjoys playing devil's advocate really should suggest the use of Gurleyville. Haha. Remember that Storrs-Mansfield is corroborated in official and community-based references en quantity. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 02:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, it isn't original research and as is known - the Town of Mansfield references, which are verifiably and independently official and reliable, list the name as Storrs-Mansfield. That is enough on its own.
It's the town name. How can that be original research when numerous citations were properly referenced in the article? 98.191.14.194 (talk) 03:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Link has been fixed, and this discussion belongs on the article's talk page. Consensus needs to be achieved before editing, and I'll leave it there for now. R0paire-wiki (talk) 03:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is it that other edits of truthful, referenced and cited, and commonplace knowledge are not challenged by such a "consensus" policy. Let's say that everyone agrees, or comes to this magical consensus (involving editors and others who do not live in, have nothing to do with, and have maybe never even heard of Storrs-Mansfield) and they all agree that the wrong answer is the one to go with.
Any shred of credibility Wikipedia can lay claim to would be extinguished, by allowing such a claim to prevail. Storrs-Mansfield is the correct name.
How about I start a similar claim that bananas aren't yellow. Let's see how far that goes... Yikes. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 03:55, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. You have already been asked to use the talk page for discussion. Please use it, as it is part of the fundamental bold, revert, discuss cycle. Rusty 🐈 02:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rusty Cat, I understand that some ping went off and you've placed this message on this page - but it's patently unfair that you also haven't placed the same exact message on the users engaged in the discussion on this page, users involved directly with the changes/edits/reversals on the articles in question, or any future involved stakeholder.
By not placing the same democratic warning on their pages, being that they are taking just as much a side as I would be in the theoretical "war", you are presenting that Wikipedia has itself declared the correct stance, and that such stance isn't "mine".
There is no edit war. There is only editors, individuals, who overstep their bounds and remove truthful, verified, and referenced information. I assume you are a competent editor and can thoughtfully process evidence and information. Storrs-Mansfield is the correct name of this community as shown in official Town of Mansfield documentation, and by the USPS who is the federal (highest) authority on place names and addresses. Yes, even above the Census.
Storrs-Mansfield is the correct and truthful name. So, please remove this message and any equivalent type warning, as there really is no edit war. Or, if you feel the message has to remain you must place it on all the other user's pages. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 02:56, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't necessarily matter here who is the federal authority on place names; often on Wikipedia the commonly used name will be used rather than the authoritative name, and those two can differ. Rusty 🐈 03:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, if some amount of significantly measurable individuals started consistently using "Gotham" to refer to New York City you're saying that Wikipedia would then use that name? Seriously?
Well, on that note, every instance should actually read "The Basketball Capital of the World". In full.
That's not really a watertight philosophy. 98.191.14.194 (talk) 03:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since you mention Gotham/New York. WP:COMMONNAME is the reason that the articles for the five counties of State of New York that are part of the city of New York are referred to by their *Borough* name, not the county name. It is far more common to refer to Richmond County, New York as Staten Island, so the article is at Staten Island. Similarly for Manhattan, when was the last time anyone referred to New York County...Naraht (talk) 03:57, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

References in this section

[edit]

References

  1. ^ "ZIP Code Lookup Tool - 06268" (Often erroneously listed as "Storrs", the correct name of this community is "Storrs-Mansfield".). United States Postal Service. Storrs-Mansfield, Connecticut: United States Postal Service. p. ZIP Codes 06268 and 06269. YOU ENTERED: 06268 - RECOMMENDED CITY NAME: STORRS MANSFIELD CT
  2. ^
  3. ^ "Storrs - Main Campus". University of Connecticut. Retrieved 2024-09-20. ...Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3088

uconn.edu hits

[edit]

From the internal search at uconn.edu, there are 77,000 hits for Storrs 326 for "Storrs Mansfield" (same 326 hit when searching for "Storrs-Mansfield") and most are either mailing addresses or off campus private housing. Naraht (talk) 02:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also on different IP

[edit]

Rusty Cat, R0paire-wiki, C.Fred It appears the editor has also made changes as 137.99.143.57 . Naraht (talk) 03:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User_talk:98.191.14.194&oldid=1246633278"