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Reading 2102

On Reading 2102 you tagged it for cleanup due to unreliable references. Could you put more details on the talk page? Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 05:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I tagged the page, is because I felt the page contains Fan sites that were cite as unreliable sources. Trains13 (talk) 16:15, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Walt Disney World Railroad

Thanks for your edits today on the construction updates for the WDWRR. They were well-written, and the citations were formatted perfect; however, the author of both citations, blogmickey.com, is a clear example of self-published work with no apparent editorial oversight and hence is not suitable to be used in a featured article (see: WP:NOTRELIABLE). Unless you can find alternate sources that are reliable, this new info will unfortunately have to be deleted. Allowing sources like this to remain in the article could potentially lead to a quality review of the article that could remove its featured status, and I'd prefer to avoid that. Jackdude101 ^talk ^cont 23:14, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info; I've recently replaced the BlogMickey sources with the more reliable sources from WDW News Today. 611fan2001 (talk) 23:42, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Modifications lists in articles

Why is it that you removed the modifications list I gave the GSMR 1702 page, but left the modifications lists in the pages for other locos, like R&N 425, GCRY 4960, SPLC 28, and N&W 475, alone? Also, I’ve been recently planning to add more detail to the history section of the 1702 page, since I want to make more existing steam loco wiki pages as detailed as possible, but first, I must know whether you think that idea is unnecessary or not. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 00:25, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The number one consideration is to prevent an article from being removed with all of the unsourced information removed and the section of many modifications has none of them. In my opinion, some of these bits of "modification" information should be part of the history section and the GSMR 1702 should not treated as a railfan page. Trains13 (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Three CP drafts that need taken care of

Hi. There are drafts for CP 1201, 2839, and 2860, and they all need to be taken care of. I'm relatively new to editing Wikipedia pages, but I do know that a page for 1201 deserves to be made. I have added stuff to it, but I don't know the locomotive that well, which is why I was wondering if experts like you could finish it off. I also know enough to see that the pages for 2839 and 2860 aren't necessary, since a page for the Royal Hudsons already exists. Could you please do something about these? If you would, thank you, but if you won't, it's fine, I'll ask someone else. 23.169.64.51 (talk) 16:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if I can, but I don't have any motivations to build these pages. Trains13 (talk) 17:42, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How about you at least help with any one of these ones. Draft:Hampton & Branchville 44 Draft:St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern Railway 5 Draft:Sumter & Choctaw 103 Draft:Polson Logging Co. 2 Draft:Cherokee Brick & Tile 1 Draft:Nickel Plate Road 755 Draft:Nickel Plate Road 757 Draft:Hillcrest Lumber Company 10 Draft:Hillcrest Lumber Company 9 Draft:Dardanelle and Russellville Railroad 8 Draft:Phenix Marble Company 1 Draft:Leviathan (locomotive) Draft:East Broad Top 12 Draft:East Broad Top 14 Draft:East Broad Top 15 Draft:East Broad Top 16 Draft:East Broad Top 17 Draft:East Broad Top 18 Draft:Wilmington and Western 58 Draft:Wilmington and Western 98 Draft:Virginia and Truckee 11 Reno Draft:Virginia and Truckee 12 Genoa Draft:Virginia and Truckee 21 J.W. Bowker Draft:Lowville and Beaver River Railroad 8 Draft:Union Pacific 4420 Draft:Southern Pacific 1233 Draft:Southern Pacific 1269 You do not have to do all of them. Just the ones you feel like building. 23.169.64.51 (talk) 20:34, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's WAY.... too many steam locomotive pages to work on! I don't have time for them now, I have college work to do. Trains13 (talk) 02:09, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I literally said you don’t HAVE to take care of all of ALL of them! Just SOME. Do you even read everything thrown at you?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 02:30, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jeez, dude, what the heck is your problem? /:( Trains13 (talk) 02:52, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 03:06, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Preserved locomotives drafts

This user called Doncram has been building up Draft:Preserved locomotives in the United States and Draft:Preserved locomotives in Canada , but they both seem to be incomplete. If you have the time and interest, could you maybe help improve these drafts, anyhow? 47.223.120.112 (talk) 01:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They both won't be necessary, because there were way too many locomotives to add to the page, and you did not cite any sources whatsoever. Trains13 (talk) 13:11, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I never added any sources that came from YouTube, Facebook, or Railpictures, but you say that all of the other sources I’ve added are unreliable anyway?! I’m sorry, but you’re fixing to make me rage quit. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 15:16, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the Great Smoky Mountain News source, it uses information from YouTube. It was made using Wordpress and Wordpress is not a reliable source. Trains13 (talk) 15:51, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well…at least let me ask this. How come you deleted the mod lists from 1702, 4960, and 29, but you’re keeping the lists on 425, 475, and 90, in which the latter three have zero sources? Someone who likes train writing (talk) 18:20, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any motivations to clean-up the 425, 475, and 90 pages. Trains13 (talk) 21:07, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

YOU need to understand that the Wikipedia wants the articles to be sourced with VERY reliable sources and the section of many modifications has no sources added whatsoever. These locomotives pages need to meet Wikipedia's target audience. Trains13 (talk) 19:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These heavily-modified locomotives, namely 4960, 29, 18, and 1702, have had so many modifications after they were built, I just thought that they were worthy of having lists of their own. After seeing how the 475 and 90 pages were made, it just seemed like a good idea at the time I started doing it myself. You have already made it clear to me and a few anonymous users that Wikipedia pages can only have sources that came from books, magazines, newspapers, and websites made by the owner of the subject. If I had learned anything from contributing Wikipedia for the past two and a half years, it’s that not every source you see privately or publicly will be accepted. I have been trying my best to keep the mods lists on 18, 29, and 4960 alive by keeping reliable sources in them, but if you believe a modification page is unnecessary whatsoever, I’ll get around to moving some of the more critical mods into the history paragraphs. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 21:08, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said before, some of these modification details should be part of the history sections and some that were on forums, YouTube, and Facebook should not be added as they were cited as unreliable. Highlighting these nitty-gritty details about the locomotive is NOT how Wikipedia articles are supposed to be written. Trains13 (talk) 04:58, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I’ll gladly take care of that, but I have already deleted forums and sources and from YouTube and Facebook from these a while ago. Also, you don’t need to remind me with any kind of attitude; I saw you originally reply with “I DON’T care”. Seriously, I may not be doing everything right while editing Wikipedia pages, but my main motivation since the very beginning was only to give pages to individually preserved steam locomotives that I like, and I don’t always perfect them myself, because I assume someone might do it for me. I made those lists, because I was only lightly copying what others were doing, and I didn’t even realize they were probably inexperienced themselves. I mean, it’s not like I’m committing any real-world crimes over this… Someone who likes train writing (talk) 05:40, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that you're trying to add new info to various steam locomotives. That reminds me of myself when I was trying way too hard on the Walt Disney World Railroad (WDWRR) page back when I don't have an account at the time in 2015-2018. I've added some new info about the WDWRR's operations, locomotives, and whistles until the admins reverted my contributions many times, because I didn't cite them. After I received my own account in early 2019, I began to cause more counterproductive edits to the WDWRR page and being reported for that. I've apologized to the admins for the way I behaved, and I had to lay off the WDWRR page to rethink my behavior. Afterwards, I realize the WDWRR page was made to meet Wikipedia's quality standards and I decided to give the same treatments made to other well-known steam locomotives such as Union Pacific 4014 and Norfolk and Western 611. Trains13 (talk) 14:18, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, I can kind of see myself in that position... I might give this Manual of Style format a read to improve my skills after I complete two locomotive Drafts I'm working on right now. Until then, if you want to anyway, feel free to edit and/or improve any of the pages I have already created myself. Also, I hope the edits I made to your Alaska 557 draft aren't a problem... Someone who likes train writing (talk) 14:51, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm sorry if I sounded a little too harsh on you. Trains13 (talk) 16:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WMSR 1309

Locomotive 1309 has had “Super Choo” written on her smokebox since July 18th, 2022. WM202 (talk) 02:33, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove the “Maryland Thunder” nickname as it is only used by unofficial sources not associated with the railroad. WM202 (talk) 16:23, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I swear to God, NO: https://www.facebook.com/page/345300237969/search/?q=maryland%20thunder Trains13 (talk) 17:18, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remember this when “Super Choo” merch is released by the railroad and not “Maryland Thunder” merch. Maryland Thunder was a short lived name given by a newspaper that everyone rolled with until the shop crews decided on Super Choo. When the new merch is released I expect to be able to change the nickname to Super Choo as per the wishes of the railroad and its employees. WM202 (talk) 18:27, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of that, but like I said, do not add a new information about 1309's new nickname until a reliable source has been given. Trains13 (talk) 23:42, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The use of certain sources

On the page Savannah and Atlanta 750, you used a source from the website "Medium". This is a blog site, much like wordpress, and has already been marked as not reliable in the [1] perennial sources table. I'm writing to let you know that you should replace it as soon as possible. Replacing the source with 'citation needed' is sufficient for now, until a suitable source is found. Gorden 2211 (talk) 10:49, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That wasn't my fault, it was User:23.169.64.51. Trains13 (talk) 12:32, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I understand of what you meant, thanks for the info. Trains13 (talk) 13:31, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I need help

I hope this isn’t too much trouble, but I need a little bit of advise. I am currently working on a page for a steam locomotive called Huntingdon and Broad Top 38, and in that page, I have mentioned that the locomotive participated in the 1985 NRHS convention. However, the only good source I could find was from wordpress, and well, you once told me that wordpress is unreliable for Wikipedia. That's why I am debating on whether I should add that source anyway, or add this one, instead. https://www.online-estatesale.com/Listing/Details/553368 . Someone who likes train writing (talk) 18:01, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Written apology

Yo, I know you can see this message. While I was banned from editing Wikipedia, I’ve been thinking. I haven’t been honest with you or anyone lately. I’ve pulled all those “disruptive” edits, because although I do add real life info to certain pages, I also just wanted to have fun trolling around every once in a while. I now realize that was completely unnecessary and uncalled for. Wikipedia is an informative encyclopedia, and not a trolling site like Reddit is. I am sorry for being so rude to ya, Trains13. And I would also like to take a moment to apologize to User:Trainsandotherthings, User:Someone who likes train writing, and User:Davidng913 for my bad behavior.

Thank you for taking a minute to read this. 23.169.64.51 (talk) 01:12, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay, man, and I've accepted your apology. Trains13 (talk) 01:28, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Glad all is forgiven. 23.169.64.51 (talk) 06:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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GA

Hi, you're not supposed to create the GAN review page yourself. It should be created by the editor who is reviewing the article. That's why you just got a message saying that you are reviewing your own article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm sorry, my bad... Trains13 (talk) 20:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to block a user

Hey, do you know how to block a user from editing Wikipedia pages? I ask, because user JimmyHook won't stop restoring the Modifications lists on the 4960, 29, and 18 articles, and it's already getting on my nerves. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 16:01, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about this user, but I told him to stop being so self-absorbed of his own ideas. Don't worry he got blocked recently. Trains13 (talk) 16:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I felt so offended by Jimmy calling me a goody two shoes. Trains13 (talk) 00:19, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am so sorry…. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 00:50, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you know I never meant to drag you into that Jimmy incident where he would offend you with harmful words. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 04:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's okay, I didn't know about that Jimmy Hook guy, until you told me. Trains13 (talk) 14:11, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Someone who likes train writing: Only administrators have the power to block users. Please inform an administrator if something like this ever happens again. Going back into Jimmy's history, I'm very happy I didn't encounter him prior to him being blocked. Davidng913 (talk) 19:39, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

CPR 2839

Hey, I was wondering if you know any relliable resources on Canadian Pacific 2839. I ask User:Someone who likes train writing and he said that you might know and resources. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 12:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I highly recommend reading this book, written by the late Jim Wrinn. One of its pages features No. 2839's excursion career on the Southern. Trains13 (talk) 13:09, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't do this

[2] He's been rightly indeffed, there's no need to gravedance. I know he was a total jerk to you, but just move on and be the bigger person. This is the kind of thing that could get you blocked for making personal attacks, regardless of how deserving the target is. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:43, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm so sorry, I get so offended by this guy calling me rude names. I've undid my message afterwards. Trains13 (talk) 13:37, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas & Friends

Why doesn't Percy the small engine have his own padge? I want him to Ethan169 (talk) 20:21, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You mean "page". Because the page of the Percy character is deleted due to its information not being cited. Here's the manual instructions on how to recreate the Percy page. Trains13 (talk) 20:27, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can u also ad his thomas & friends movie appearances Ethan169 (talk) 20:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, dude, go learn some grammar. Trains13 (talk) 20:42, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can i do it his movie appearance list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan169 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, because everything is not 100% sourced whatsoever, and needs to be removed to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Trains13 (talk) 22:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Percy The Small Engine has been reinstated as a redirect. --Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 12:58, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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East Broad Top steam fleet

Hello, I am a professional steam enthusiast, working for the East Broad Top Foundation. I couldn’t help but notice there are plenty of Wikipedia drafts about each of the surviving EBT 3ft-gauge steam engines, and nobody seems to be making any real effort to turn any of them into informative, encyclopedic pages. I also noticed you completely corrected pages about other engines and even helped nominate the one about UP Big Boy 4014 as one of the good Wikipedia articles. That’s why I’m asking you if you could please construct all of the EBT engine drafts into proper articles whenever you catch the chance, that way people can learn more about each survivor without having to look at one of EBT’s own websites, and do so while looking at proper grammar. Here is a source from jstor.org that could hopefully help out. https://www.jstor.org/stable/43518100?searchText=East%20Broad%20Top%20locomotives&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DEast%2BBroad%2BTop%2Blocomotives&ab_segments=0%2FSYC-6646_basic_search%2Fltr&refreqid=fastly-default%3A48449f8bd83c8386760df604bcf96557 If this source isn’t enough, you can always try searching on Google books, as well. 2601:680:C401:DC90:C0F4:4689:E5A:33BA (talk) 01:04, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't ask me, I'm not the perfect type of user that knows everything about EBT fleet. :P Trains13 (talk) 01:16, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA nominees

Crazy question: is any Wikipedia user allowed to nominate pages as GA’s, now? I saw you do something like that for ACL 1504. 23.169.64.51 (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When I checked the 1504 page that I recently copy-edit, I thought it will make a good candidate for the Good Articles section. Trains13 (talk) 20:56, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sorry, but the anonymous California-based user started this. It added an info without citing a source whatsoever. Trains13 (talk) 03:08, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter who started it. It doesn't matter who's right. It looks like y'all are starting to work things out, which is good, but it's important to remember that there are only limited exceptions to the three-revert rule. Sometimes admins look the other way when one party in an edit war is clearly adding unconstructive content, but this edit war also has reverts like this one, where you revert not just the original edit, but also the addition of a source, with the edit summary "Don't argue with me!" That's not okay. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 03:15, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes in steam engine articles

Hey. Just to let you know, I've been starting to add quotes to history segments of steam engine articles. In your opinion, is that a bad thing, or is it good? 23.169.64.51 (talk) 05:32, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You know what, I'm with you on this, that’s a great idea! 👍🏻 Trains13 (talk) 05:59, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lemme try again. Ary there any quotes that you know of that could be added to the Southern 1401 or 4501 articles? 23.169.64.51 (talk) 16:11, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I added one quote from W. Graham Claytor, Jr. on the Southern Railway 4501 page. Trains13 (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Union Pacific 4014

On 1 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Union Pacific 4014, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Union Pacific 4014 (pictured) has been the only Big Boy locomotive operating in the United States since 2019? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Union Pacific 4014. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Union Pacific 4014), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Thank you, I'm happy with the end result. :) Trains13 (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you at least please tell me which sentences that you want me to copy-edit? Trains13 (talk) 22:57, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This was a mistake on the part of the bot; Electricmaster did not fail the nomination. I'm looking into the bot error now -- sorry about that. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:20, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WDWRR

Is the WDWRR currently or formerly run by Main Street Operations? Couldn't confirm that myself with the source you attached (the one with the PDF), as neither the original nor archived link are working. Jackdude101 ^talk ^cont 15:00, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry the WDWRR is still operated by Main Street Operations. Here's some proof: https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2022/12/carrying-on-a-legacy-the-walt-disney-world-railroad-returns/ and https://attractionsmagazine.com/walt-disney-world-railroad-is-now-officially-open-for-all-to-enjoy/ :) Trains13 (talk) 15:05, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the "s" from the "http" code in order to get the archived PDF link working again. Trains13 (talk) 15:37, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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GA nominees?

Question. Why do you keep nominating Wikipedia articles on steam engines with these GA nominees? I mean, I don’t at all have a problem with that, as I have been trying to nominate the articles on #1385, #261, and #2, albeit without success so far, but I’m just curious as to why you have been doing so. 23.169.64.51 (talk) 03:59, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because the locomotive pages that you've nominated, have NOT met the Wikipedia quality standards. Their information needs to be updated, rectified, or need sources added. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 04:06, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Understandable, but I was also asking why YOU keep on nominating those other pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 05:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I already told you, I thought UP 4014, ACL 1504, and S0U 1401 made good candidates for the Good articles section, since they’re fully sourced with good information. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 12:33, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since you seem to know what you’re doing, why don’t you change up just one of the articles I’ve named above just so you can show me what’s holding them back from being considered ‘good’? Btw, it’s me, 23.whatever. I was just talked into making a “proper” Wikipedia account. Larrysteamfan (talk) 17:00, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What the heck do you mean of wanting me to change up one of the steam locomotive articles? Trainsfan1331 (talk) 22:02, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I mean try to edit one of the articles (or pages, whatever) to give it the same “quality standards” as the ones you have been heavily editing, to show me what I did wrong while I edited this crap. A lot of people, even in the real world, seem to complain to me that I ‘don’t edit Wiki properly’. For example, what the heck did I do wrong with Polson Logging Co. 2? What’s wrong with that article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larrysteamfan (talk • contribs) 04:23, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you split the sentences in order to make readers understand. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 04:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2023

[1] You’re not one of those folks who believe it was the railroad’s fault that locomotive was screwed over, are you? Don’t take this the wrong way. I’ve just been wanting to be sure after you made this edit. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I've actually found out that it was actually Richard Jensen's fault, because he stubbornly refused to let Metra move his No. 5629 locomotive out of their Blue Island yard. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 19:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is relieving to know. There are still plenty of people who believe in false stories. We need more people like you. Also, I really hate to ask this, but there was one other thing I meant to ask you; I've recently almost completely remade C&NW 1385's page from scratch, but I wasn't sure if I was allowed to remove that "needs more citations" banner up top, nor was I sure if it still needs to be there. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 05:36, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I may not know everything 1385, but I think you can remove the "more citation" template away from the page since you've cited everything. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 01:22, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. If you remember what I did for 1385's page, I did almost the exact same thing for GCRY 4960's page. You don't have to edit it, if you don't want to, but all I'm asking is if you think I can remove the "more citation" template from it, after ensuring all the sources are reliable. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 20:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's fine, if you do that. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 20:13, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Remaining steam locos

Hi there. I just couldn’t help but notice that User:Beconrase has been trying to rename Western Maryland locomotives 734 and 1309. I actually respect what his intentions are but I also think you should help him out if he wants to do this for other train pages like say U.S. Sugar 148. WillJSimpson (talk) 16:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, I kept it as “U.S. Sugar 148”, since it was currently owned and operated by U.S. Sugar corporation. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 16:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GTW 5629

Last time I’m telling you something like this, but I remade the page on GTW 5629. It only has nine sources now, but I tried to done down the use of those Passion for Steam references.

I couldn’t help but notice you’ve been constantly editing the 5629 section of that USRA light pacific page, so if you would like to modify the main 5629 page, and do so your way, go right ahead. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 16:34, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to tell you this, but Passion for Steam is not a reliable source, because it was self-created using Wordpress. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 17:30, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh! This is why I contacted the creator of this article, to ask what his original sources for this were, but his response was that he only got them from interviews from people who have been deceased, as well as old newspaper articles and court records. I am gonna have a hard time finding which newspaper and court records he was talking about. I guess not long ago, I also got my own book copies of Steam’s Camelot: Southern Excursions (which mentions 5629 once) and America’s Greatest Circus train (which talks about 5629 for a little bit), so I should add those sources, too. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 17:48, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I got my copy of Ron Ziel's Mainline Steam Revival book and pages 78-81 even mentioned about No. 5629's fate, but not the whole story. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 18:30, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CN 5288

I wasn’t sure if this would matter to you, considering how you made that draft a while ago, but someone created a new page about CN 5288. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 17:51, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved some of the sources to the already create article page and put a redirect on the draft. Trainsfan1331 (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like to copy-edit any changes I recently made to N&W 475's page? I added an article from the Sept 1995 issue of R&R Magazine for use as a major source. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 22:39, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you, I'm really impressed that I've added a new article about Norfolk and Western 611's wreck in 1956. :) 611fan2001 (talk) 00:53, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the title to the "Cedar train wreck when I realized that the 611's wreck occurred in Cedar, West Virginia. 611fan2001 (talk) 01:31, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Southern Pacific 4404

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Can you try to set this up and make it be accepted along with 4426 because I have tried twice with 4426 and it has declined for me.

That would be wonderful if you could try to set it up with your editing skills

Thanks. 118.208.118.228 (talk) 10:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I'm not a frequent editor of Southern Pacific related pages. 611fan2001 (talk) 11:53, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

are you an editor for diesel locomotives or is it just steam locomotives that you rebuild? 118.208.118.228 (talk) 20:59, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I usually redone steam locomotive pages that I've seen in person or from childhood home video especially the 611. 611fan2001 (talk) 21:02, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the nice article on the Cedar train wreck!

I know it was accepted via AFC above but I just wanted to send my appreciating on it as well since it's a nicely written article and interesting since we hadn't had an article, apparently!, about the last major passenger train wreck in the US. It also happens to be the first article I marked as reviewed via Wikipedia:New pages patrol. :) Skynxnex (talk) 14:51, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LS&I 18

I just now finished completely remaking LS&I No. 18’s page. Would you like to help me copy-edit it? I got a sense you have a soft spot for this locomotive, since I noticed you edited it a few times before. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 07:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced drafts

Hello there. It’s me again. Some anonymous user just listed me a bunch of steam engine drafts that are mostly un-noteworthy and improperly sourced, and he’s asked me to edit them all.

Included in that list are Draft:Norfolk and Western 1240, Draft:Norfolk and Western 2174, and Draft:Norfolk and Western Class Y6b. I don’t know if you’re that big of an expert with most N&W steam locomotives, but could you judge whether or not these particular drafts are notable enough to be their own pages or not? Or at least if you know if they have enough published sources to back them up? Someone who likes train writing (talk) 05:06, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think I will do it right now, because I’m now busy with my life around me. 611fan2001 (talk) 16:14, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I totally get it. I’m pretty busy with my life, as well, and there some other existing pages I’ve been meaning to change with the magazine sources I have. I do wish you luck with whatever is going on with you outside this website. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 17:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, I was trying to get motivated on publishing an obscured train wreck page unfold. But with college getting in the way, I don't know if I can finish this page up. 611fan2001 (talk) 13:31, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m genuinely sorry

I know I’ve been an idiot and a screw up for the majority of last year, and I’ve been such a repugnant to you, in particular, and for that, I’m really sorry. For the remainder of this year, I’m only going to make meaningful contributions to pages about steam locomotives, and sometimes, railroads in general. I know you may not want to forgive me after all the crud I’ve fed you, but I’m still going to ask you this once; what would it take for you to trust me again?

You don’t have to answer that question, if you don’t want to. I just want to leave this message here to let you know that I’m changing my ways for good. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 01:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alright, I've added the Wrinn book source, and edited the text to avoid copyright with another page. 611fan2001 (talk) 20:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Disney Railroad War

Alright, I’m sorry about the disastrous edits on the Walt Disney World Railroad page. I’m still confused as to the sources about the locomotives as I try to figure out which are official and which aren’t. I’ll leave the sources to you at this time. But I will admit that I’m still curious as to why we can’t include the Steam Giants pages for Roger and Roy if Walter and Lilly can use theirs. Just saying… Davidng913 (talk) 02:35, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need to add the SteamGiants pages about the WDWRR's Nos. 3 and 4 locomotives, because it's too complicated to add so much info to the note box. 611fan2001 (talk) 03:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Each locomotive has more than enough citations at this point. Right now I'm still trying to figure out if Roger received a new boiler or not, and if Roy is going to get one. I think I overheard in another conversation that all locomotives are getting new boilers as part of their overhauls, along with the other associated upgrades. Davidng913 (talk) 14:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware that the WDWRR's No. 3 locomotive received a new boiler from Strasburg, but we'll have to wait for a reliable source of it for the time being. 611fan2001 (talk) 16:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And my assumption is that Roy will receive a new boiler as well. I was told that all of the locomotives are essentially getting new boilers and equipment to last them for the next few decades. Davidng913 (talk) 22:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shrek the Third

As you neglected to provide an edit summary when you reverted my reversion of your change, please explain how "was misaimed" is better wording than simply "missed"? Thanks! DonIago (talk) 14:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It means that Prince Charming misaimed his sword between Shrek's stomach and left arm, instead of Shrek's stomach. Afterward, Shrek revealed it and tells Charming "You need to work on your aim." 611fan2001 (talk) 19:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining your rationale. I still think for basic plot purposes "missed" is sufficient regardless of your preferred wording being more technically correct, but I won't revert your reinsertion. DonIago (talk) 21:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SOU 1380 postcard

I just ordered some postcards from EBay, and they should be shipped within a few days from now. One of them is of Southern No. 1380, and since the page you made for it lacks a photo right now, would you like me to scan that postcard and upload it there, just like how I did IC 2613’s page? The photo dates back to 1947, so it should be in the public domain. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 22:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? I would love to have a picture of Southern 1380 in its page! :) 611fan2001 (talk) 22:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nos. 2156 and 2174

I tried my best to rewrite N&W 2156 and 2174’s pages with proper sources. They’re still not that great, especially not on par with 611 or 475’s pages, but I was still wondering if you’d like to at least look them over and let me know what your thoughts are. Whenever you find the time, of course. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 04:51, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024

Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks! Danners430 (talk) 21:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 2024

Hello, I'm Danners430. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, LB&SCR E2 class, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Danners430 (talk) 11:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just to expand upon my edit summary - I used the wrong link in the summary, I was referring to MOS:Lead. To quote: "A lead section should be carefully sourced as appropriate, although it is common for citations to appear in the body and not the lead." Your statement wasn't sourced, which is fine as long as it is sourced elsewhere in the article. Reading through the article, there is no other mention at all of the locomotives being trialled on long distance expresses - and as such, there is no source for this statement. Danners430 (talk) 11:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There we go… Danners430 (talk) 17:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SOU 4501 GA candidate?

Crazy question, if some minor tweaks were made to Southern Railway 4501, then do you think that page would be worthy of being nominated as a Good Article? I’m asking you, because you’ve been making a lot of that page’s improvements in recent times, but I have a spot soft enough for 4501 that I’ve tried to add some sources to it, as well. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]