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Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

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we are official Ramjas Pusa and information given is false , misleading and impersonation of a 50 year old institution

we are official Ramjas Pusa and information given is false , misleading and impersonation of a 50 year old institution RAMJAS SCHOOL, PUSA ROAD (talk) 05:42, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for patrolling the recent changes list - it is highly appreciated!

BillClinternet (talk) 19:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
@BillClinternet: Thanks! I'm going to move the barnstar to a new user subpage. 2NumForIce (speak|edits) 20:03, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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Skagit Transit Page

I was making some MUCH needed changes to the Skagit Transit page and was booted off. ADDING and CHANGING the following; Youth Fare free - Route additions and better descriptions - Park & Ride additions. I just spent a lot of time doing this and it was erased. I won't be doing it again. Thanks. 66.114.44.138 (talk) 16:42, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi! Unfortunately, due to the way diff worked, I thought it was content removal. I am sorry for that. However, please make sure to use the edit summary so that others know what you're doing. Thanks! 2NumForIce (speak|edits) 16:50, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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Ali Siddiq biography edits

Hi, I made the changes to Ali Siddiq’s biography, but did not know they needed an in-text citation. Both referred specials were released on YouTube, and I’ve linked them below. In the description for the second special, there is a quote from a New York Times review if that is helpful.

Domino Effect: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EsKDNZQhVX0

Domino Effect, Part II: LOSS https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nvofZaBh7wA 24.187.90.249 (talk) 10:11, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Since I forgot to mention, both specials were directly released by Ali himself on his own YouTube channel. 24.187.90.249 (talk) 10:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
@24.187.90.249: Hi! Sorry for the late response (I was busy). Usually, YouTube is not a reliable source as it is self-published, although there are times when using self-published material by the subject of a BLP is allowed (see WP:BLPSPS). However, it's always best to use a reliable source when adding content to Wikipedia. If you have more questions, it's best to ask them at the Teahouse, which is run by many volunteers and you'll get a faster response there. Thanks! 2NumForIce (speak|edits) 22:08, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Also, to add a citation, click Cite in the editing toolbar and enter the information. If you use the VisualEditor (which can be activated with the pencil icon in the source editor), you can automatically generate a citation with a link. 2NumForIce (speak|edits) 22:10, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

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ConvoWizard study details

Hi 2NumForIce,

This is Jonathan with the ConvoWizard study team. First off, thanks for indicating your interest in our study! We just wanted to give you a quick update that we're still waiting on more sign-ups, and will officially launch the study once we hit a "critical mass" of participants - once that happens we'll follow up with more details. In the meantime, please don't hesitate to reach out (via talk page, email, etc.) if you have any questions before we begin!

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Hello again! Just wanted to leave a quick update that the study is now live. If you are still interested in participating, you can begin by filling out the following form, which also contains more detailed instructions: https://cornell.ca1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_dm4TiyTZkTfIICO (note that the first page does ask again for the same information as the initial interest form you filled out, but subsequent pages of the form contain more new questions/information). Thanks again for your interest, and please let us know if you have any questions or comments! Jonathan at CornellNLP (talk) 19:20, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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Question from 3NumForIce (16:36, 28 August 2023)

Hello, this is a test of mentorship --3NumForIce (owned by 2NumForIce) 16:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

@3NumForIce: Oh hello there! 2NumForIce (speak|edits) 16:38, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi 2NumForIce, when patrolling biographical edits, please keep in mind that restoring material others have objected to in good faith may be prohibited without obtaining a consensus first, and that repeating gossip or self-published sources' statements is problematic. In the moment you restore material on Wikipedia, you are legally responsible for it.

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Thanks for telling me that (sorry for this 1 month later). Will mention on my WP:CVA page. ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 22:57, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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How to submit a complaint about a person undoing my edits

Hello Mentor

I am having a problem with a person undoing my edits, which are properly referenced. This person has undone my edits a few times with vague reasons. For example, the last reason was "A book literally titled "Croatia in the torture chamber" is not an indication of WP:RS"

Since when does a title of a book determine the legitimacy of the content, especially when the book is by a legitimate historian. The historian being: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Rudolf_Horvat

The edits that this person makes spins the article into a biased direction, yet since he has seniority, he can bully me any way that he wants. ZidarZ (talk) 21:57, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi @ZidarZ,
Apparently, the user mainly edits Holocaust- and torture-related articles, and apparently has reverted it due to it being not a reliable source. You might want to first read the page, and discuss it with the user. If nothing works, I suggest you go to the reliable sources noticeboard and editors there will be able to determine if a source is reliable.
The next time you want to ask a question, you can use your homepage:
  1. Click on your username at the top
    If you see your user page, enable your homepage:
    Preferences → User profile → Tick Display newcomer homepage
    Preferences → User profile → Tick Default to newcomer homepage from username link in personal tools
  2. Under "Your mentor", click Ask your mentor a question
  3. Ask away! ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 02:17, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
    2NumForIce I notice you put a notice on this article. However, while I appreciate your contribution it is not necessary to cite the article's lead if the content is cited elsewhere in the article. The article was rated good after a review because all the content in the lead is appropriately cited in the body. (t · c) buidhe 06:00, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
    Thank you for your help - for being understanding and kind, unlike others.
    I read the "reliable sources" page and skimmed through the "reliable sources noticeboard" page. I can see that while there are criteria for judging a, there is much subjectivity in the discussions.
    According to the criteria of "reliable sources", the book that I referenced, titled "Hrvatska na mučilištu", qualifies as a reliable source but user "buidhe" deemed it not reliable based solely on its title. He said "...books with hyperbolic titles are less likely to be WP:RS and suitable to cite for wikipedia purposes.
    Who decides what a "hyperbolic title" is?
    My original translation of the title was "Croatia in the torture chamber" but a technically more precise title being "Croatia in a place of agony/suffering", originally published in 1942 and republished by a prominent Croatian publisher in 1992. The book details the suffering that Croatia endured during the first Yugoslavia - that being between 1918 and 1942. It is a reasonable title for the events of the time. The author Rudolf Horvat was a legitimate historian whose only apparent "faults" were that he suported an independent Croatian state and he opposed communism and Yugoslav dictator Tito.
    Is it proper for a person that does not read the Croatian language to judge the reliability of a Croatian book based solely on its title?
    About me
    I am a Croat, living in Canada, and have some knowledge of Croatian history. As an example of what I have done so far - my major update to the page of a little known Croat from the 16th century named "Janos Statileo". My desire is to present information about the accomplishments of Croats and to undo at least a tiny bit of anti-Croat propaganda (character assassination) created by the communist Yugoslav government. Sadly, there is still much anti-Croat hate based on Yugoslav lies.
    Here is my rule of thumb on how I plan to contribute. Since I am not a subject matter expert in Hungarian history I will never go onto a Hungarian history page and tell people how to present Hungarian history except where it misrepresents Croatian events - for example when a Hungarian tries to claim a historical person as one of their own. Rather than make an edit and provide a curt and glib reason for it, I prefer to address the issue in the talk section.
    Once again, thank you for your time and kindness. ZidarZ (talk) 11:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
    The purpose of wikipedia is not to promote Croatia and crusade against "anti-Croatian" narratives. We're only interested in covering what reliable sources have to say on a subject. If that is your attitude I don't think you are going to stick around very long. (t · c) buidhe 14:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
    The purpose of Wikipedia is sharing information/knowledge.
    My desire is to ensure an honest/truthful presentation of information about Croatia. I have no problem with the use of RELIABLE (truthful) information and in fact I highly desire it. My problem is when people "cherry-pick" what they consider reliable information.
    The more I see you write - the more I come to feel that you hate Croats and by creating a negative image by cherry-picking facts.
    Re: "I don't think you are going to stick around very long."
    It is interesting to notice that first you make personal/character attacks and now you have moved to personal threats. Typically people see others as they are themselves. A propagandist sees everyone else as a propagandist.
    How I wish that you would leave me alone.
    But you now have a target and you seem like you will continue in your attacks and will probably even try to sabotage me.
    I have done nothing to you.
    All I ask is that you stop harassing me and leave me alone. ZidarZ (talk) 16:07, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
    May I ask - why do you oppose me
    fixing "anti-Croatian" narratives.
    Why do you promote "anti-Croatian" narratives? ZidarZ (talk) 16:08, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
    This was my first project on Wikipedia.
    I added considerable content to it.
    Do you see any "red flags"?
    Will you now go and begin revising it?
    https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/János_Statileo ZidarZ (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hello there! I see you've been quite active in some things related to the above mentioned pages. I'm pinging you @2NumForIce: directly to ask for some help. I've started 3 initiatives for these pages. If you could spare some time in the near future, could you please take a look at the proposal and voice your opinion? Of course, if you have interest, time, and energy to participate that would be amazing!

Here are the projects:

1. Talk:Philosophical_pessimism#A proposal for an overhaul of the article — this initiative is already in progress. The idea is to raise the quality of the page by switching it from a mere historical account to a more encyclopedic format.

2. Talk:Philosophical_pessimism#A proposal to split the History into a dedicated page — related to the one above. The historical account is overly detailed. It would be much better to have a dedicated page for the history of philosophical pessimism and leave only a brief history in the main page.

3. Talk:Antinatalism#A proposal to create a dedicated page for Benatar's axiological asymmetry — here, the idea is to extract the axiological asymmetry argument into a dedicated page. This way, a more detailed presentation could be given. In addition, we could expand on the various responses others philosophers made and counters from Benatar. Other pages could have a brief description and link to the details page.

I hope at least some of this will spark your interest! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fantastiera (talkcontribs) 14:12, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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Сreate an existing page in English.

Hello.

Please tell me when I will have the opportunity to create an existing page in English in another language? I translated it and put it in my draft and I also have it in translations.But as far as I understand, there is no opportunity to place it with me (my account).. And also how to correctly make a link to the presence of the English version of the page?

Thanks for the answers.

With respect. Serg5151 (talk) 18:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Serg5151,
It seems like you have already created a new page using the content translation tool. Unfortunately, only autoconfirmed users (registered for 4 days + 10 edits) can directly create an article or move it into article space. However, there is an Articles for creation process, which allows non-autoconfirmed users to create an article.
Before submitting, I recommend asking for some help at the Teahouse and the AfC Help Desk. When you're ready, use the source editor and add
{{subst:submit}}
at the top of the page. ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 23:24, 12 September 2023 (UTC) (edited 23:25, 12 September 2023 (UTC): fix pre tag)
Also take a look at Help:Your first article ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 00:21, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Thank you.
One more question.
When trying to publish a translated article, the following message appears:
Automatic edit filters have identified problematic content in your translation. Filter hit: Content Translation Edits.
What to do? Serg5151 (talk) 12:45, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
@Serg5151: Unfortunately, the translation tool is only available to extended-confirmed editors (30 days and 500 edits) on English Wikipedia (see message intended to be shown and WP:CXT. However, it seems you already have a draft created, so you might want to try {{subst:submit}}ting that. Note that this only applies to translations published directly to article space; drafts and userspace pages are not affected by the filter. ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 14:07, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
@Serg5151: To put it under user/draftspace, click the gear icon next to the Publish... button, then set it to either userspace (personal draft) or draftspace (community draft). ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 22:52, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Question from Pablow mellow on User talk:Pablow mellow (23:00, 13 September 2023)

Teach me motion --Pablow mellow (talk) 23:00, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Pablow mellow! It doesn't seem that you have provided enough information. The mentorship feature is only for Wikipedia-related questions. Is there something else I can help you with? ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 23:02, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Arthas The Wizurd (16:02, 18 September 2023)

Hello! I particularly enjoy just doing generic grammar and spelling editing work. Is there a particularly helpful way and place to go around doing that? --Arthas The Wizurd (talk) 16:02, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Arthas The Wizurd, and welcome!
You can find articles to copyedit on many places, such as:
  • Your homepage, where you asked your question
    Click "Easy/Medium/Hard edits", and from there, choose options (you can choose multiple.)
  • Wikipedia:Task Center
    You will see more tagged pages, however they are less intuitive than your homepage.
  • Guild of Copy Editors
    This is a WikiProject of copyeditors. You can find some information there.
  • WPCleaner
    A tool for detecting problems with pages; however, you still need to fix them manually.
Need more help? Use your Special:Homepage! ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 22:49, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Mtati ovuyonke (16:58, 17:44, 12 October 2023)

How can I write my own history --Mtati ovuyonke (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

How do I publish my own articles --Mtati ovuyonke (talk) 17:44, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I have grouped the sections into one to make it more cleaner.
Hi @Mtati ovuyonke! I'm not sure what you mean for the first one, but I will summarize the second one.
Writing an article can be a very complicated task. For beginners, I recommend The Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive experience guiding you through Wikipedia's norms.
Next, you can try improve actual articles. You can find articles that need improvement through your Homepage (the same place where you asked your question). There's even a help option for quick access to some of our rules.
When you're ready, check out Help:Your first article. Make sure to read this carefully, as that process will create a draft that will be reviewed by others before publishing.
If you need more help, reply here or go to Homepage to ask another question. Happy editing! ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 02:33, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from SCHOLAR GANESH SINGH YADAV (05:35, 16 October 2023)

my interest is to write about some non famous personalities they are impacted in societies directly --SCHOLAR GANESH SINGH YADAV (talk) 05:35, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi @SCHOLAR GANESH SINGH YADAV! You might want to see the reply on the previous section. You might also want to take a look at notability guideline, which is also important. Happy editing! ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 22:19, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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Personality arises from Rural ( Village)

Earth living human-being are divided in two parts as one belong to rich of resources and other one belongs to lack of resources. Hear, I am trying to write about the Famous Personality those belongs to 2nd categories ( lack of resources) SCHOLAR GANESH SINGH YADAV (talk) 08:02, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi @SCHOLAR GANESH SINGH YADAV, I have already provided the answer to your question on #Question from Mtati ovuyonke (16:58, 17:44, 12 October 2023).
If you need help with formatting, layout, NPOV, etc., you may reply here or ask another question on your Homepage or the Teahouse.
If you need some ideas, you can go to Wikipedia:Requested articles (RA). Note that RA is more of a list of ideas, not an article writing service.
Happy editing! ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 15:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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