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Your submission at Articles for creation: Greg Landsberg (August 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jlwoodwa was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to

meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria
or cite multiple reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject, which cover the subject in some depth

Make sure your draft meets one of the criteria above before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If the subject does not meet any of the criteria, it is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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jlwoodwa (talk) 19:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 2601:189:8180:7670:6000:2FE7:F0E7:EBF8! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! jlwoodwa (talk) 19:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On Draft:Greg Landsberg

Hi @Jlwoodwa,

Thanks for the review. I read the criteria before writing this article and I think it will be better if you could have a look at it for a second time.

Your reasons for declining:

"... meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria": the subject has a named chair appointment ("Thomas J. Watson Sr. Professor of Physics at Brown University"), which satisfies WP:NACADEMIC point #5. A previous holder of this named chair position is Leon Cooper, Nobel Prize laureate in 1972.
"... or cite multiple reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject, which cover the subject in some depth": please consider the following sources cited in the article.

1. Johnson, George (September 11, 2001). "Physicists Strive to Build A Black Hole". The New York Times.

You can read this article on the Wayback Machine. I believe this NYT article provides good coverage of Landsberg's theory of blackholes.

2. Merali, Zeeya (July 20, 2010). "Large Hadron Collider gets yet more exotic 'to-do' list". Scientific American.

This Scientific American article gives detailed coverage of Landsberg's theory of the dimensions of the universe.

Please let me know your concerns. I understand that you're a volunteer: many thanks for your effort. 2601:189:8180:7670:6000:2FE7:F0E7:EBF8 (talk) 19:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The only source given for the named chair appointment is Landsberg's curriculum vitae. WP:PROF requires claims to be substantiated through reliable sources. I probably should have included that detail in the decline (sorry). jlwoodwa (talk) 00:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jlwoodwa Understood, and no worries at all. I have supplied a source, which is the official website of Brown's physics department showing Landsberg's appointment as a named chair professor. I will re-submit the draft soon (rate limit issues). Thanks! 2601:189:8180:7670:6000:2FE7:F0E7:EBF8 (talk) 00:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Greg Landsberg (August 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ktkvtsh was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Zero personal information. Where is Landsberg from? When was he born? Read WP:GNG.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Ktkvtsh (talk) 00:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On Draft:Greg Landsberg, no. 2

Hello @Ktkvtsh,

Thank you for your review for Draft:Greg Landsberg. I am afraid I can't entirely agree with your review.

Personal information: I did not find reliable sources that mention the subject's personal information. Besides, I don't think personal information is warranted for establishing the notability of an academic, compared to public coverage of their research output.
GNG: I have read GNG–thanks for pointing me to the helpful guideline. However, I am also aware that A topic is presumed to merit an article if: 1. It meets either the general notability guideline (GNG) below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific notability guideline (SNG); and 2. It is not excluded under the What Wikipedia is not policy. The subject satisfies WP:NACADEMICS point five as a named chair professor at a major institution.

Please kindly reconsider and let me know your concerns. I hope you have a nice day. 2601:189:8180:7670:6000:2FE7:F0E7:EBF8 (talk) 02:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel like Landsberg's CV should be used as a source. I also noticed that in several of the sources, he is only mentioned once. If you feel otherwise, re-submit the draft to WP:AFC. Ktkvtsh (talk) 02:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your attention to this! I will improve the sources for now. 2601:189:8180:7670:6000:2FE7:F0E7:EBF8 (talk) 02:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Greg Landsberg has been accepted

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