User talk:207.236.13.191

September 2024

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Excuse me! Not true! It was small, but constructive. Please unblock! 207.236.13.191 (talk) 17:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

The Block is not what it's as I have improved History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia. Indeed, it goes back 3,000 years 207.236.13.191 (talk) 14:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Since you think your edits were correct, there are no grounds to remove the block. 331dot (talk) 16:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

331dot (talk), sorry for my disruptions. The words I added for Kingdom of Judah are mostly fake. E.g., for wherever "JUDAHITE" is found, I used to write the word "JUDAIC" [inappropriately], a similar thing happened at the demonym. So Please shorten the end of block date to 23 December 2024

Decline reason:

I cannot tell from your request if you still plan to replace the word "Jews" with another word. Could you be clearer in your next unblock request? PhilKnight (talk) 19:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

PhilKnight I replaced "Jews" with "Judahite" in articles - like the History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia as Judaism's presence in Arabia or Saudi Arabia dates back to Israel-Sheba trade, which established Judahites in Arabia before Invasion of Al-Qudus. It was later, since 587 BC, that Judahites sought refuge in Modern Saudi Arabia and Modern Yemen. Also, "Jew" is a mistranslation of not just Aramaic word "Yahoodi" and Greek "Ioudaios", but Arab "Al-Yahud", which means "th Judahites..."

Decline reason:

I agree with the previous declines. Please review the guidelines at WP:OR, WP:V, and WP:RS before making another unblock request. -- asilvering (talk) 23:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

Unblock: Sorry for the disruptions. Also, unblock me to edit an article Arabian Judaism and fix the errors

Decline reason:

Discussion here and on the talk page at User talk:142.114.232.94 indicates you do not understand how to appropriately verify information and reference reliable sources. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:50, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there! In your unlock request, you have stated that you would like to fix error in the Arabian Judaism article (History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia). Can you tell me the specific changes you think should be made to the article? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change

@Significa liberdade, please change the phrase "according to Butrus al-Bustani, the Jews in Hejaz established a sovereign state" to "according to Butrus al-Bustani, the Judahites in Hejaz established a sovereign state" as how Jew is used implies Judaism came to Arabia after 586 BCE or 70 AD, when it was established before. 207.236.13.191 (talk) 17:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doing so would require a review of the source material, which I, unfortunately, do not have access to. The goal is to ensure what we write on Wikipedia aligns with what is stated in the cited texts. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 18:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade, could you please tell what is review of the source material? Is it editing? Also, the Presence of Judahites in Arabia is substantiated by Bible and Al-Masudi. 207.236.13.191 (talk) 18:56, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By "review of the source material", I mean I would have to read the book cited to ensure it verifies the claim you are making. If you have another source to verify the claim, you may provide it. Please note that the Bible does not count as a reliable source. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bible talks about Judahites in Saudi Arabia/Arabia at the time of Solomon's Temple - read 1 Kings 8-10. 207.236.13.191 (talk) 14:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the Bible does not count as a reliable source for anything other than its own content. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 17:19, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to what jpgordan has stated, in this case, it does not matter what the Bible says because information on the page is verified through the Butrus al-Bustani source. If al-Bustani doesn't mention Judahites, it would be highly inappropriate of Wikipedia to say, "According to Butrus al-Bustani, the Judahites in Hejaz establish a sovereign state". Can you explain to me why this would be would be inappropriate? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:31, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Bustani agreed with Al-Masudi agreed that Northern Hijaz was a satellite Medina of Judah.

So, that's why I translated Jews as Judahites. In fact even Israel controlled the Sinai, which wasn't separate from North-west Saudi Arabia (Petra). 207.236.13.191 (talk) 17:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battir

Sorry for my disruptions/vandalizations of the article Battir, but I want to add the Jewish settlement of Beitar Illit to it because it's original name is Betar (Judaean Mons) Also, since Khirbet Al-Yahud can be traced to Biblical times, the word must be translated "ruins of the Judahites" rather than "ruins of the Jews" because the word "Jew" in the KJV meant Jude or Judahite, rather than a religious term. E.g., The KJV says, "And when they were at Salamis, they preached the word of God in the synagogues (assembly halls) of the Jews (Judahites) and they had also John to their minister (as an attendant) - Acts 13:5". So, Paul preached to Judahites of Cyprus - Western Palestina. 207.236.13.191 (talk) 16:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, the Bible is not a reliable source. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/article-746382 and Joshua 15:59. 207.236.13.191 (talk) 14:54, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Categorizations

Could the article Shalom Dov Wolpo be placed in category "Kahanism", "anti-Zionist Jews", "Anti-Zionist Orthodox Judah", "anti-Zionist Rabbis" and "Jewish anti-Zionist organizations", Also, the word "Israeli" should be removed from the phrase: "... is the founder of the organization Ha'Matteh L'Hatzolat Ha'Am V'Ha'Aretz—SOS Israel—a militant Israeli Jewish political movement opposed to any agreement leading to land concessions to the palestinians". Cuz the word Shalom Dov Wolpo advocates the Autonomous Authority of Judeo-Camaria - an anti-Zionist Torah-centric Jewish statehood, which Kahanists suggested once the P.L.O declared Palestinian-Authority statehood. So, the State of Judah is an Anti-Zionist Right-wing movement -- as are a lot of sects of Judaism and Christianity. The State of Judah views Herzl and Likud-advocates Ariel Sharon, Moshe Katsav, Tzachi Hanegbi and Benjamin Netanyahu as "haters of the Torah...". 207.236.13.191 (talk) 17:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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