User talk:109.157.10.4

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello 109.157.10.4, and welcome to Wikipedia. While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues here.

• You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
• Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. (There is a college-level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify the information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
• Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Wikipedia:Copyrights. You may also want to review Wikipedia:Copy-paste.
• If you own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a legally designated agent, you may be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. Understand, though, that unlike many other sites, where a person can license their content for use there and retain non-free ownership, that is not possible at Wikipedia. Rather, the release of content must be irrevocable, to the world, into the public domain (PD) or under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. Such a release must be done in a verifiable manner, so that the authority of the person purporting to release the copyright is evidenced. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
• In very rare cases (that is, for sources that are PD or compatibly licensed) it may be possible to include greater portions of a source text. However, please seek help at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, the help desk or the Teahouse before adding such content to the article. 99.9% of sources may not be added in this way, so it is necessary to seek confirmation first. If you do confirm that a source is public domain or compatibly licensed, you will still need to provide full attribution; see Wikipedia:Plagiarism for the steps you need to follow.
• Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps in Wikipedia:Translation#How to translate. See also Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Larry Hockett (Talk) 03:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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January 2019

Please stop your disruptive editing.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
• If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Dorothy Kilgallen, you may be blocked from editing. Do not post WP:FRINGE theories that have been discussed and rejected by the community. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:34, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia. Larry Hockett (Talk) 03:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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Hello 109.157.10.4. I have noted your recent edits to Dorothy Kilgallen and your response to Ad Orientem and Larry Hockett at the former's Talk page. I understand you are not 12 years old. But seeing that you have made, as I write this, only four edits to WP, I believe it is reasonable to assume that you are not yet familiar with all the policies, nuances, and mechanisms associated with editing Wikipedia. Perhaps I can help you here to better understand them, help you understand why AO and LH responded to your edits the way they did (responses which were, by the way, entirely appropriate), and in so doing help you become a more successful and happier editor.

One of the the first things you should know about editing Wikipedia is that added content must be supported by reliable sources. I encourage you to read WP:RS for full details. Your recent additions to Dorothy Kilgallen were not so supported, and indeed they were not supported by ANY sources, reliable or otherwise. That was sufficient reason for your edits to be removed on sight (i.e., reverted.) Another thing to realize is that content that is even vaguely controversial (e.g., anything involving, or derived from, fringe or conspiratorial theories) should always first be vetted on the Talk page prior to being added directly to the page. The basis for doing that is available at WP:Consensus, but briefly: Wikipedia content is established by the consensus of editors, not by whether the content is "right" or "wrong."

Please also consider these two bits of advice. Firstly, I suggest that prior to making any edits to any page, you first take several minutes to inspect that page's history and Talk page. It is always worth the time and effort. If you had done so here, you would have quickly discovered an extensive history of editors attempting to add fringe/conspiracy theories (see also WP:FRINGE) concerning the death of Dorothy Kilgallen, and many discussions on the Talk page about those attempts. If you read those discussions now, I believe you will learn why the material you attempted to add was, to be frank, a non-starter, and why AO and LH responded in the manner they did. Secondly, please try not to take criticism too personally. There are likely no editors on WP who have not had edits reverted, or who have not become upset about...something. Please read WP:AGF. Accusing/implying/suggesting that other editors are treating you like a 12-year-old seems to me the opposite of assuming good faith. Perhaps this sports metaphor will help: play the ball, not the man.

Lastly, if you still believe the content you attempted to add is appropriate for Wikipedia, please begin a civil discussion on the Talk page. Unless you can find explicit, reliable sources for that content, history suggests you will not be successful, but you never know... JoJo Anthrax (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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