I reverted your conversion of this article into a manga article; that is not an obvious primary topic, especially as this manga character is obviously in some way derived from the Norse mythological figure. I moved the manga content to Skuld (manga). Please note that, when you cut-and-paste stuff, you have to note in the edit comment where it came from. Destroying edit history for some parts can't be helped when an article is split, but it has to be made clear where the content was fetched. u p p l a n d08:22, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Have you fixed "what links here" links? -- Catchi? 13:05, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
I posted that without reading the change. While I agree that anime is not more significant than the mythological char, I do believe the two mithological entities need to be separated from each other in separate pages. I reverted and moved Skuld -> Skuld (Oh My Goddess!) and then moved Skuld (disambiguation) -> Skuld and later restored the blanked/redirected articles regarding the mithology chars. I think this is a middle ground for both o us ;) -- Catchi? 13:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm fine with that, except that "Norse mythology" and "Scandinavian mythology" probably isn't enough to disambiguate, but that can easily be fixed later through a move. I also think the edit history primarily belongs with the mythology, but I don't care enough to wage an edit/revert war about it. u p p l a n d14:01, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Umm I just noticed the anime serries and mithology is fused quite well. I ask for your assistance to separate and link the mithology chars and anime chars properly. (see: Verdandi -- Belldandy) -- Catchi? 14:06, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
I am of the basic conviction that the mythological topics should in most cases have primacy when everything else is derived from them. I can concede cases like the planets Jupiter and Saturn, but it is much less obvious with Venus, considering how many Venuses there have been in art in the post-classical period, and I don't think pop culture like cartoons, which may be very short-lived, should be allowed to take over. When it comes to the details of how to separate the topics, I think it is better for you - in the case of Norse topics - to discuss this with Wiglaf and Haukurth who work on this stuff. u p p l a n d21:03, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I kinda agree, but I don't think it hurts to keep tem as disambiguations. Since multiple referances aren't uncomon often even in Mythology. --Cool CatTalk21:48, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I like your Wiki-Defcom system and i was wondering if you can tell me how to set it up on mine. Please reply in my talk page if you can so i can be notified.--Dynamo_ace 15:42, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps when you implement your bot to track the wikidefcon and update the template, you could also make it update the channel topic. Then we'd have a #en.wikipedia.warroom :D — Ilγαηερ(Tαlκ)17:31, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
One of Turkey's biggest obstacles in dealing with the West is the way it chooses to patrol its own history. — Davenbelle 12:08, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
Interesting point of view. Coming from the west that arrests people who suggest Armenian Genocide is false (Swiss incident). I also do not see the importance if this comment warranting my atention on wikipedia. --Cool CatTalk12:24, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but I am not interested in biased websites, spesifically when it comes to the alleged Armenian Genocide. If I want them, I can google for them. And frankly I cannot comprihend your obession with one historic article, it is just an article... --Cool CatTalk12:57, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Please accept my apologies for thinking that you where just deleting the "Popular culture", when you where in fact moving it, later. When I looked at it the section had just been deleted, and no content had been added to the disambiguation page. That to me seemed very, very strange, so that was why I reverted. I agree with what you have done now though. -- Karl Meier08:14, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
This incident changed my view on you. While I don't expect you to trust me or believe me in anyway I think we can coexist. Also please read link below fully and completely on how I interprete this whole incident. Feel free to "talk" to me directly on my talk page. --Cool CatTalk11:23, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Karl Meier (Stereotek) have recently apologised for an error of his, in an assume goof faith environment I have taken it as a sincere apology but I dont want to be as gullable as Belldandy as at this point as I cant afford it. This was the first real communication I have ever recieved from him so it is exciting for me. --Cool CatTalk19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Davenbelle is plainly beyond reason. Check his past 3000 edits., how often does he revert me or opose me. See very reacent Soultheaster Anatolia Project issue of moving material around. Generally in distant past Davenbelle and Stereotek have activeley revert ward against me together, sometimes for image sizes. He has a history of making his only edit in days in a vote to opposing me and ironicaly citing WP:POINT --Cool CatTalk19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I do not hold revenge against people all I care is them leaveing me and others on wikipedia alone and stop "policing" policies based on how they interprete them. --Cool CatTalk19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to suggest that if you want Karl and I to leave you some space and let others monitor your editing per the proposed decision that you agree to immediately cease editing articles related or referring to Turks, Kurds, or Armenians per the same decision. If you will agree to abide by all the proposed remedies starting now, I will too, and I will also leave the Turkish, Kurdsish and Armenian articles to others. I would also ask that you interpret the decision to include the article talk pages. — Davenbelle02:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Davenbelles above comment. If you agree to immediately cease editing articles related or referring to Turks, Kurds, or Armenians per ArbCom proposed decision, I will also leave the Turkish, Kurdish and Armenian articles to other editors, and let others monitor your editing, starting now. -- Karl Meier08:20, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly realise that no one supports your behavior, you are dead wrong. You are in no condition to make demands (Especially you Davenbelle). Davenbelle already has a restriction on wikipedia in a much greater scale than I am proposed and my case isn't even closed. Kemal Ataturk is a politician and hence politics. Your behavior (esspecialy Davenbelle) alienates users from wikipedia. No arbitrator will support anything that alienates users from wikipedia. While I do try to steer away from controversial topics (infact at least since the start of the arbcom hearing I haven't made any truly controversial edits), I will not "leave" the articles just yet.
My edits on Kemal Ataturk basically reorganised the page. And removal of original research and heavy nationalistic TURKISH pov (no one objected).
My edits on Kurdish people esspecialy had comunity support. No one on IRC objects comenting out or complete removal uncited information (or move to talk). Uncited information does not belong to wikipedia, and I have at least an arbcom member (not involved with the case) agreeing with me personaly but does not want to get involved directly.
An arbcom meber hearing our case explained me that the first few restrictionsa are not "bad" since they apply to all users anyways. Lets be honest, Davenbelle you interfered with every mediation atempt I made, even on topics not relaeted to Kurds Turks and Armenians such as the Solano guy an Nanking thing. I'd like to remind you what you were revert waring against me on nanking: Image sizes. Both arbitrators I talked to find it ridiclous. Prohibation is a funny thing, no admin would block me for my edit on Kurdish people for example. The onther remedy is bannng me off of articles related to Turks, Kurds, and Armenians, this does not mean that I am blocked from lets say GAP.
If you do not leave me alone, you will only provide me fresh evidence and you are welcome to do so. I'd rather wish you leave me alone. I already pulled my finger from the trigger, I suggest you do the same. If you feel I make a bad edit, then discuss matters starting on the article talk page and mention it here (so I know about it as I do not monitor you) or present it directly in Arbcom, USE the community. If you can't get community support realise my edit may not be as bad as you think it is. --Cool CatTalk10:53, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
This question is open to all users. Please feel free to answer. Do you, or have you ever, meditated? I do when, I am stressed or mad. And, yes, it does help.
I have tips for better meditation. Here they are:
Find a QUIET place.
Adjust the lights and temerature to your liking.
You can meditate SILENTLY, or WITH MUSIC.
Meditation can occur, ALONE or IN A GROUP.
Meditation time should NOT be RESTRICTED.
It helps to RECORD, what you SEE, and HEAR, during meditation.
Wear UNRESTRICTIVE clothing (LOOSE clothes, NO glasses, and NO shoes).
I just got that info off of: www.crystalinks.com.
Plus, meditation helps me, and I figured it might help someone else.
Was it a good article? How much, work do I have to do?
Thanks, for the welcome.
Well, gotta go!
I am not sure which article you are referincing to, I do not see you writing one.
I act secretively because I believe in a need to know basis. Since knowing my true identity serves to no purpose on wikipedia, I have no reason to reveal it. Nothing personal. --Cool CatTalk15:51, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if it makes you feel any better, you have always been nice to me. Sorry to bring up a subject that has obviously caused you some strife. Try not to let a few people get under your skin. Keep up the good work and people may forgive you in the future. Here, have a cupcake. Cheers. --Lord Voldemort(Dark Mark)22:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
############## ACCOUNT SETTINGS ##############
# The family of sites we are working on. wikipedia.py will import
# families/xxx_family.py so if you want to change this variable,
# you need to write such a file.
family = 'wikipedia'
# The language code of the site we're working on.
mylang = 'en'
# The dictionary usernames should contain a username for each site where you
# have a bot account. Please set your usernames by adding such lines to your
# user-config.py:
#
# usernames['wikipedia']['de'] = 'myGermanUsername'
# usernames['wiktionary']['en'] = 'myEnglishUsername'
#
#usernames = {}
usernames['wikipedia']['en'] = 'My Bot Name Here'
############## USER INTERFACE SETTINGS ##############
# the encoding that's used in the user's console, i.e. how strings are encoded
# when they are read by raw_input(). On Windows systems' DOS box, this should
# be 'cp850' ('cp437' for older versions). Linux users might try 'iso-8859-1'
# or 'utf-8'. If this variable is set to None, the default is 'cp850' on
# windows, and iso-8859-1 on other systems
console_encoding = None
# tkinter isn't yet ready
userinterface = 'terminal'
# Should the system bell be ringed if the bot expects user input?
ring_bell = False
That creates a page object linked to your talk page in the above example.
To get the wiki text from the page, you'd call (following from the previous example):
mypage.get()
You can save that data into a variable if you wish. To put a page you do something like this:
mypage.put('New text to replace old text', 'Fill out the comment field in this field.')
Where "New text" is where you want to replace the existing text, and the second portion is the comment note in the history. Default is something like: "Wikipedia python library"
If you want to add to the text, do something like this:
mypage.put(mypage.get() + 'Added text here', 'Bot adding text')
That is all you should need to program your script in Python and get your bot working. I don't believe you need any other function. Oh, also, I made some modifications to wikipedia.py; If you get any errors trying to run the bot, you should apply these changes manually.
In the file wikipedia.py:
def output(text, decoder = None, colors = [], newline = True):
"""
Works like print, but uses the encoding used by the user's console
(console_encoding in the configuration file) instead of ASCII.
If decoder is None, text should be a unicode string. Otherwise it
should be encoded in the given encoding.
colors is a list of integers, one for each character of text. If a
list entry is None, the default color will be used for the
character at that position.
If newline is True, a linebreak will be added after printing the text.
"""
if decoder:
text = unicode(text, decoder)
elif type(text) != type(u''):
print "DBG> BUG: Non-unicode passed to wikipedia.output without decoder!"
print traceback.print_stack()
print "DBG> Attempting to recover, but please report this problem"
try:
text = unicode(text, 'utf-8')
except UnicodeDecodeError:
text = unicode(text, 'iso8859-1')
if logfile:
# save the text in a logfile (will be written in utf-8)
logfile.write(text + '\n')
logfile.flush()
# ui.output(text, colors = colors, newline = newline)
print text
#def input(question):
# return ui.input(question)
#def inputChoice(question, answers, hotkeys, default = None):
# return ui.inputChoice(question, answers, hotkeys, default)
How do you do what you do? You give answers to questions that do not fully explain. They just let you know what you need to know. Not to pry but, how old are you? You word things like, an adult. I think you may be the most mature, open-minded person I've met on the net. -C2 aaron
Thank you for your compliments. The trick is to focus on a point rather than try to explain everything related in one go. Unnecessary details generally gets people carried away.
You are breaking links doing this "rename." Please cease, at least for now. Should you not, please exercise more care performing this sort of refactoring. — Davenbelle11:41, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Coolcat, I agree with Davenbelle, why don't you just place a redirect with your other alias to your recent one? It really is not Wiki to do that, you are braking links and eating servers memory, just by recopying the same data for such an insignificant edit. I think this can be considered as a misconduct, and is irresponsable. Fadix04:38, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Because that creates double redirects and slows down servers and causes other problems. The proper procedure is eliminating double redirects. --Cool CatTalk09:25, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It is misconduct to insist on keeping what is wrong. Double redirects are much worse than a few (at worst 10 otherwise I would see it) broken links, which can be fixed instead of reverting 600 double redirects. --Cool CatTalk09:27, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how it is worst to just place a redirect to your other userspace to your current one, then editing bunchs, and braking links and taking server space. As for 600 double redirects, then, just blank your old user space, and place a hyperlink, tellin people that now you are using this user name. I still wonder why is the big deal on changing from Coolcat to Cool Cat, were you trying to hide your misbehavours or what? Fadix16:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The problem is the extra page load. Have a read of WP:ABF will ya? -- Catchi? 16:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
As for 600 double redirects, then, just blank your old user space, and place a hyperlink, tellin people that now you are using this user name. I still wonder why is the big deal on changing from Coolcat to Cool Cat, were you trying to hide your misbehavours or what? Fadix 16:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC) No idea right. Fadix16:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not quote people on things they posted on the same chain. It is quite irritating. -- Catchi? 17:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I will, when it fits. You just write here to show you have something to say. I just made a little comment, and you blew it out of proportion. Consider this my last answer about this thing. Fadix17:53, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ok be irritating, and tell me it is civil too. I did say please. I did not blow anything out of proportion. I just dont understand why are you making comments regarding wikimedia. The software has an easier time with fewer redirects. -- Catchi? 18:11, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
A wikicrime is an act that deliberately and seriously hurts the object of creating quality articles. It should be noted that the intention is important in this case. Normally good faith is assumed. Do not forget that sincere, intelligent people can be seriously misguided and self deceived.
I am well aware of wikipedia policies, again please dont post material you coppied from wikipedia if you are not going to explain it. -- Catchi? 12:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Dear page,
I am a Faylia Kurdish girl from Iraq. I don't understand the real origin of us.I asked a lot, but people were answering me from there memory ,or as they have heared. So, I can't trust there answer, because there is no book to explain the Faylia Kurd. So, if anyone can guide me to a book I will be very thankful.
It is a hard question actually. Kurds have been nomadic people until recent times and hence did not keep archives. There are a number of reasons why it is very hard for us to establish their origin.
Kurds were exposed to a great deal of external cultural and genetic influence. They have generally lived in isolation from the rest of the world with minimum communication.
As you may well know there are 4 major sub cultures of kurdish culture which are quite distant from each other. Infact it is quite hard to find referances to "Kurds" rather than to the 4-sub cultures on historic documentations. Furthermore It becomes harder to identify the origins of individual sub-cultures due to a number of civil disturbances we obesrved in the region.
So I am not certain if I or anyone is qulaified to answer your question. I would love to guide you a book, but there are a number of them disputing each other.
I DIDN'T GET MUCH INFO ON FAYLIAN KURDS.IT'S HARD, BUT I GOT THE BASICS. "AL-FAYLIAH" KURDS, PRIMARILY LIVE IN, THE ERMANSHAH, AND ILAM PROVINCES OF, IRAN AND CENTRAL IRAQ. FEYLI IS A PERSID (SIMILAR TO PERSIAN AND LURI) LANGUAGE SPOKEN IN THE KHANAQIN REGION OF IRAQ. FAYLI-SPEAKERS TEND TO CONSIDER THEMSELVES AS KURDS.
No problem. Notice the "history" link on the very top. This can tell you who posted something if it isn't signed. -- Catchi? 14:19, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Please make a section for your evidence and add evidence only in your own section. Please limit your evidence to a maximum 1000 words and 100 diffs, a much shorter, concise presentation is more likely to be effective. Please focus on the issues raised in the complaint and answer and on diffs which illustrate behavior which relates to the issues.
If you disagree with some evidence you see here, please cite the evidence in your own section and provide counter-evidence, or an explanation of why the evidence is misleading. Do not edit within the evidence section of any other user.
Be aware that the Arbitrators may at times rework this page to try to make it more coherent. If you are a participant in the case or a third party, please don't try to refactor the page, let the Arbitrators do it. If you object to evidence which is inserted by other participants or third parties please cite the evidence and voice your objections within your own section of the page. It is especially important to not remove evidence presented by others. If something is put in the wrong place, please leave it for the arbitrators to move.
I need a template that states that the article has been heavly vandlisied. I had been watching an article and some vandel started to dilibratelty cause spelling mistakes and generally downgrade the quility of the article. If you can, can you build also a varient that states that there may still be errors in the article caused by the vandel. Sorry for asking this, i can't program wiki templates like you can.Post your answer on my talk page please.--Dynamo_ace19:14, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Actualuy I already have: {{Constantvandalisminprogress}}. It was deleted. I could recreate it but it would be deleted. -- Catchi? 19:49, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Kingturtle, you asked me to redothat on IRC and later you revert me for doing so. You basically made me waiste several hours. Can you PLEASE tell me what the heck is going on? Please also notify me on my talk page. -- Catchi? 20:52, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Also you removed "Terrebonne" stats from Lousiana. entry. -- Catchi? 21:02, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
I am not pissed ...much... but I thought it look better, I just want to improve meself. -- Catchi? 21:02, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
coolcat, my specific request in IRC was for someone to change the "Totals" row from 4 columns to 5 columns. this was something i wasn't able to figure out within the confines of the chart that existed. i did not ask for a total overhaul of the chart.
the States and their totals should appear in the first columns, and then subsets should appear in further columns. i am sorry for the amount of time you spent redoing the chart. can i reimburse you by doing a wikipedia task for you? :)
P.S. I will add Terrebonne stats right now. thanks for catching that ommission.
Not just that but the "missing" are missing as well. See katrina toll talk page for a few issues I have with current template. -- Catchi? 21:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Well. Yes. Firstly there should be a space between #redirect and A. Secondly I do not see any sane way a single letter should have a redirect. By default it will be redundent and perhaps get deleted. -- Catchi? 09:52, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
A single letter could easily have a redirect, for instance if we decide that the S-caron article should be a redirect to Š instead of the other way around. A space should be added for clarity, but I've seen redirects that have omitted the space and they work just fine. The bottom line is, you need to set the magic number at 14, not 15, and you need to avoid deleting anything that contains a template even if it's less than 14 characters. -- Curps10:06, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
We have Eng redirecting to a single letter by that name. Even A has two incoming redirects (LetterA and AaA), and C has Cee redirecting to it. There are probably many more examples. Other than the first one, these may not be very useful redirects, but that's not for a bot to decide automatically. -- Curps10:15, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The bot could read the contents of the page and check for the word "#redirect" and delete if it cant fint it. This could mean size cap can be further increased. -- Catchi? 10:39, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey Cool Cat, we had this discussion on IRC some time back. Edison didn't invent the light bulb (though he did try pretty hard), and you said you'd change you page! (That said, there's no obligation for your user page to be accurate I suppose) Cheers, Cdyson37 | (Talk)23:06, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh right. Ill fix it -- Catchi? 01:09, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Actually, it's a vandal who's posting george bush pictures on user pages, but going just by the single username it was a good guess :-) --fvw*00:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Likely marmot, we are watching him closely on IRC, care to tag along? We got virtual coke and popcorn. -- Catchi? 01:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
What are you going on about? I didn't vandalise a single page. I would appreciate it if you could provide evidence of me vandalising. Otherwise, it's called false accusation. --Miborovsky01:44, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I just innitialy saw someone deleteing pages and pages of stuff. We have hightened level of vandalism on lots of articles. I sincerely am sorry for all of this, I issued your party a warning and issued a notice to ANB. -- Catchi? 01:57, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I do not know exactly what do you mean. Can you mail me the wikipedia.py file I should use, I am using the short code you gave me. -- Catchi? 21:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I really like all of the images you uploaded. Is it possible to change the format from a "voltmeter" (-10 to + 10) to a speedometer look so that all one needs to adjust is a number. ;) Its a thought :P -- Catchi? 19:37, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Oops, you were repeating someone else. Still not the best of ideas, but it doesn't merit an NPA warning :-). Happy editing! --fvw*02:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think I should be any politer to people repetively vandalising my own userpage. RCP can get stressful you know. -- Catchi? 13:39, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
If you can't handle recent changes patrol without violating our basic civility policies perhaps you should turn your efforts to a more gentle aspect of wikipedia. --fvw*14:13, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me, please block me immidiately if I am being uncivil to vandals then. This makes little sense. -- Catchi? 15:02, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Just recording what I already said to you on IRC: CTU.jpg is copyrighted, so you can't derive anything off that, but using the general idea of it seems ok to me. If the logo is just to be used on Wikipedia, such as on the User:Cool Cat/Counter Vandalism Unit page, then I don't think this would be a legal issue. There were no objections from the rest of the board or from juriwiki over Commons:Image:Admin mop.PNG, but you might want to wait and see if there are objections to this one, since there have been in the past over the Research Network logo. Angela.02:19, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reminder there. Copyrights on images that are modified into a new image were never my cup of tea. I'm going to make an explainer page by the end of today hopefully so I can finally get that bad boy on the Barnstar page.
Also, after looking at your page above(It looks pretty good), I was wondering if you could give me any tips to finally get to "Expert Wikipedian" status. I feel as though i'm at an intermediate level in a "Wikiplateau" of sorts. Karmafist17:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I'd harldy call myself an expert :)
I can recomend usage of subpages. You seem to have a lot of long lists on your userspace. You may want to place them in sub articles. I can do this for you if you like. ;)
What kind of tips do you have in mind? -- Catchi? 17:56, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Well one thing, as sad as it may sound, is pointing me in the right direction towards getting a Free IRC account. I downloaded some program that supposed to work with it called "MaxxIM", but no dice. Karmafist19:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You can download [mIRC] (pay) or Chatzilla (free) plugin for firefox. -- Catchi? 20:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. I think Steven M Scharf (aka scharf.steven aka 69.12.152.174) could do with reading your discussion page - especially the bits about not being a dick and not mounting personal crusades :-) || Just zis Guy, you know?20:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the "Not belong to wikipedia..." is based on wikipedia policies. Applies to all. :)
I would suggest you to use one account, as multiple accounts tend to cause problems. -- Catchi? 20:31, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
I do only use one account, and I almost invariably remember to sign in. There are several active contributors on this one, at least two of whom are known to me from other contexts. Just zis Guy, you know?20:45, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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