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We could scratch reference #4 and lose nothing. Seems like #3 got lost somewhere, but that third reference could cover the Stamping Office portion. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Clistonb|Clistonb]] ([[User talk:Clistonb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clistonb|contribs]]) 23:16, 19 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
We could scratch reference #4 and lose nothing. Seems like #3 got lost somewhere, but that third reference could cover the Stamping Office portion. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Clistonb|Clistonb]] ([[User talk:Clistonb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clistonb|contribs]]) 23:16, 19 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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DYK for Abbey Tavern Singers
![]() | On 1 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Abbey Tavern Singers, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the soundtrack from a beer commercial, featuring the Abbey Tavern Singers, became the best-selling Irish record in Canada? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Abbey Tavern Singers. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Gatoclass (talk) 09:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Please approve changes incorporated
Dear Sir/ Ma'am
I have edited my contribution http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sankar_Datta as per your advice. Please kindly check and approve.
Regards Arunabha
Arunbh2 (talk) 06:50, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- (replied at users talk page) 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:32, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your approval. I am new and still trying to find my way around.
Regards Arunabha
Arunbh2 (talk) 04:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Articles for creation/Mobile Financial Services - bKash (2)
Hi, you have declined the submission of 'bKash'. Could you please point out the reasons of your disagreements very specifically? Please specifically let me know the lines, for that you are opposing.--Bellayet (talk) 07:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- Greetings Bellayet! Thanks for taking the time to write this article, and for your desire to improve it. First, I think your subject is clearly notable. There are several things I think you could do to improve the article.
- First, I deemed this to look like an advertisement because the article spends a good percentage of words describing "how-to" and why it is safe and regulated. These are not inherently bad, but as it stands the overall tone of the article seems to be promoting bKash, and not a disinterested, encyclopedic article about a company.
- I think one of the biggest improvements you could make is to expand the history section. There is nothing in this section that actually deals with the company history. Who is bKash? Where did it originate from? Who founded it? When?
- The Concept section needs some cleanup (this won't keep your article from being promoted, it is just for general improvement purposes.) The services provided are too detailed. Opening an account is intuitive, and the other options are basic services for banks. Buying airtime is a good item. What else besides basic (but mobile) banking services and air-minute purchases does the service provide?
- the third reference (BRTC) links to a 404 error. Can the url be tweaked to link to a valid page?
- the last reference (International Institute of Science Technology and Education) is fairly long. I would include the page number the information came from.
- I hope that is useful to you. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:56, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Senior Army Career Counselor - Page Submission Declined
Thank you for taking the time to review the Senior Army Career Counselor page I recently created (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Armyreenlistment/Senior_Army_Career_Counselor).
I've been in constant email/Facebook communication with current and former leaders of this Army career field Primary Military Occupational Specialty (PMOS) 79S and I've gathered all information I could gather (minus a couple pictures...some are deceased). Sergeant Major Retired (Dr. now) was voted Career Counselor of the Century by the 79S career field upon his retirement for his importance to this field and is the most knowledgeable Career Counselor (historically speaking) of our field's past. I know this may not really hold much weight in terms of reference for a non-Army Career Counselor and I'm not sure which way to go in terms of finding good quality references (I did upload a book of retention history that Dr. Pionk wrote).
Would email traffic or direct communication with Mr. Pionk provide information so as to get this page published?
Please assist at your earliest convenience, Matthew Quick Master Sergeant US Army, Active --Armyreenlistment (talk) 23:58, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
- First of all, as a US citizen, thank you - deeply - for your service to our country. I am afraid that email traffic and personal communication does not count as a source, because it it not verifiable. In short, there is no way that one can look it up with Google, or go to the library to do some fact checking. I highly recommend you read wikipedia's policy regarding reliable sources. After that, if there is anything I can do to help you find reliable sources, let me know. Again, thank you for your service, and thank you for your efforts to improve Wikipedia. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
I've been working very hard gathering and posting references. This is a completely new learning experience...but a good. Can you please look over and see if I am on the right track and close to a possible 'Resubmission'? --Armyreenlistment (talk) 01:38, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Sergeant Quick, theonesean, talk page stalker here. I took a look at your article, and the Gazette source appears to be a reliable, independent source. Generally, media sources are considered the status quo for good sources. If you can find more coverage of this in media, your article will be wonderful. But very good, in particular the writing. After this article is done, I hope you stick around and put that talent to good use. Thanks, theonesean 02:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
disagreement on mark martin victories
Mark Martin does indeed have 40 Sprint Cup series victories, but only 35 of them came during his tenure with Roush Racing. The other 5 were in 2009, while he was driving for Hendrick Motorsports unsigned comment 03:23, 9 July 2013 174.62.143.247
- You are absolutely correct. I missed the details of your edit. I apologize, and I have self-reverted. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 03:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
This is not a Flam,, but I need help. (I spent 40 min on this email,, wiki is important to me)
This project is like how Wikipedia was started donations (not VC money) and all volunteers. Unfortunately I don't have any volunteers or donations, hmmm I must be crazy. Look at WMA site again,, it is wonderful project.
I'm new to adding articles @ wiki. The notable comment is interesting. I looked it up, and then cruzed around Wiki,,, seems like World Mentoring Academy is more relative than a majority of articles.. but oh well.
I looked at others citations and did what they did. ie Alexa rank, The CLEP & DSST, I can link to a wiki sources but the 60 NYU-SCPS language tests has no Wiki article. Media most of the times just copy's the Company/Organizations Press Release,, the media is understaffed I have worked in the PR field. (just like Lobby's write many of the US Law's) The citation of the other MOOC's are mostly referring to their Press Releases.
MOOC's (education) are few, here's a comparison
Coursea.org (est 4/12) | Udacity.com (est 2/12) | edX.org (est 5/12) | Worldmentoringacdemy.com (est. 4/10) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
LMS(Learning Module system) | yes | yes | yes | yes |
Courses | 140 aprox | 24 active | 38 aprox | 700 (same content as other MOOC's) |
Earn Univ Credit | Yes (6 courses) | no | no | Yes (170+ courses) |
Semester (start - end) | yes | open | yes | open (anchored with credit test) |
Tuition | free* | free* | free* | free (no data mining, etc.) |
Capitol | $22 million (VC) | $15 million (VC) | $60 million (Univ) | None ( not bound by VC, Gov. or
Religion obligations) |
Wiki article | yes | yes | yes | nope :( |
(unsigned 17:55, 9 July 2013 User:Clowningar)
- First of all, not taken like a flame, they are fair questions. Thank you for your interest in Wikipedia. I hope I can say this as kindly as possible. You seem to have a serious conflict of interest with the proposed article subject. From that standpoint, thank you for submitting through AfC. Also, while schools of higher learning have been pretty much deemed inherently notable, does the WMA have any standing with an accrediting body? It does not appear so. If it does, please find a source, it will really help your article's chances for promotion to mainspace. I would also ask that you spend some considerable time studying our policies regarding what is notable enough to be included in Wikipedia. Your comparison to other sites will not help your article be promoted, as there are numerous articles that will eventually be deleted through the Articles for Deletion process. You may be able to take solace in WP:TOOSOON, as it appears your orginzation is brand new, and may eventually earn the citations and significant mentions in reliable sources that will make a wikiepdia article easy to write. I outlined the problems with your sources in my decline at Articles for Creation. If you come up with new sources and would like my opinion as to their independence or reliability, I'll be happy to help. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:40, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Precious
music
Thank you, composer, player and listener, for quality articles on music, recording and related people, such as Costanzo Antegnati and Robert Leonhardt, and for musically phrased reviews, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
- Wow, I am deeply touched! I will certainly treasure this jewel. I hope to create several more music articles, perhaps even some more opera-related ones, but I will never attempt to match the creative output of yourself, or of so many others who have recieved this precious gem. But this can't hurt the ol' inspiration department here at 78.26! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:47, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- Don't compare! At one point I was asked to pass Precious to new writers, so I did today, again, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for your comments. In terms of citing news and sites, I'm in need of some help. What's the best way to do that? Also, I'll plan to find new sources (not Amazon) for books. (unsigned 14:11, 10 July 2013 user:Kmboehm)
- You've done a good job of citing news and sites, in general. You fixed one of the Amazon references, all I was trying to convey is that you should cite the book itself, instead of citing the amazon website. The best way to do this is to use the following templates, as appropriate: template:cite news, template:cite book, template:cite web. Once that is done, and while I can't speak for any of the other reviewers, I would have promoted the article. Oh yes, please sign your talk page postings with "~~~~". All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi 78.26,
I'm still working on the Gerhardt article. I'm struggling a bit with this citation format. How do I cite non-news websites? Also, do these cites come immediately after the sentence, or should I place them in the reference list? Thanks for your help. ~~~~".
- Hi Kmboehm, you can use the cite web template for a non-news site just as well. In my opinion, place the citation directly after the fact that is supported by the source. Merely adding to the reference list gives an unclear citation style. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi 78.26, I just resubmitted the article, hopefully with the correct citations. Thank you. Kmboehm (talk) 16:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, and well done! Article rightfully promoted by another editor. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 23:07, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Maurice Rocco
![]() | On 12 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Maurice Rocco, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Duke Ellington praised pianist Maurice Rocco's sophisticated performance style? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maurice Rocco. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:47, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello
I would help with working to get this article in the right form. Kindly advise.
link...http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Scleatus#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation
Thank you.
(Scleatus (talk) 13:02, 12 July 2013 (UTC))
clarification
Hello
Not sure if I included the correct link for the article in the earlier post.
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Parayakad_Village
I will be obliged for your help in correcting it.
Thank you.
(Scleatus (talk) 13:21, 12 July 2013 (UTC))
- Most importantly, how is your article different from Parayakad, which you link to? I wasn't sure if it was a duplicate or not, but if you could make the distinction clear it would be really useful. Thanks! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:14, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Next, after you have differentiated your article, please see WP:RS as cited in the decline. After you review this, I'll be happy to answer questions you may have about the policy, and how you can find these sources. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello
Ref:http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Scleatus/sandbox
The other Parayakad in wiki is only a small block(muri) in a village. "Parayakad is a muri (area) within the Chittatukara Village Panchayat, North Paravur Paravur Taluk, Ernakulam district, Kerala, India"
The village I am referring to is a larger and more substantial place. I linked them only because I thought I had to. They are not really connected. I see that I was wrong to link them. What will be the best best way of handling this without conflict and yet respecting the other entry? Should I include a note about the other Location?
Much obliged for your guidance.
Thank you.
(Scleatus (talk) 14:33, 12 July 2013 (UTC))
- Thanks for the clarification. I think that you should edit the other article to make it clear (particularly to those of us who are unfamiliar with Indian divisions of governance) to show that it is a sub-part of your to-be-created article. Yes, this will create a (temporary) redlink, but that is ok. You might reference the other article, saying something like "There is also a muri within Panchayat Village called Panchayat" and perhaps detail its location within the larger area. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:40, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello
Thank you. I will do that and get back. I am grateful for the prompt and clear suggestions. Wiil be in touch. The Best.
(Scleatus (talk) 14:59, 12 July 2013 (UTC))
Autopatrolled
Hey 78.26. Just wanted to let you know I've given you the autopatrolled userright, in recognition of your content creation. My eye was specifically drawn by Maurice Rocco; it's a lovely article, and a wonderful choice for DYK :). Keep up the good work! Ironholds (talk) 22:16, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for the trust, and the kind words! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 02:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Parayakad_Village AfC part 2
Hello I have revised the article as you suggested. Made alterations to differiantiate the two articles . I have edited the other article to avoid the confusion and clarify the facts. I have also researched and addressed the WP:RS issues as recommended and introduced relevant references.
Kindly review and advise how to proceed.
Thank you.
(Scleatus (talk) 00:13, 15 July 2013 (UTC))
- Hello! Thanks for making the distinction between the articles. However, I don't see where you added any sources to the article. For instance, you say the source is the census, but where would I go to find these census numbers? I'll bet there's an official government page you could reference! As stated in the original decline notice, please see WP:REFB and WP:Citing sources. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:19, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Question: Where are you making the edits, for your AfC submission? I don't see any edits on page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Parayakad Village since my decline. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:21, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello
I have submitted it after writing to you. It is in the wikipedia talk: articles for creation section. It is said it is waiting for review. I saw earlier contents with a refernece note repeated at the end of this new article .I guess i did not delete it. Plese ignore that.I will go back delete it.
Thank you.
(Scleatus (talk) 00:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC))
HELP please
I wasn't actually trying to create an article for submission! I was trying to put it in my sandbox. Do I have to create my own sandbox? All links were taking me to that for some reason and it was the only way that i could get into my sandbox. Any help would be appreciated. Also, I hope that i do not lose the article that I was working on. It is an actress who is red-linked in several places on WP, and although I at first put in a request for article creation, I noticed how long the list of requests is, so I decided to try and gather-up what i had accumulated in my current open tabs in researching the noteworthy actress.-TeeVeeed (talk) 01:29, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Added for clarification-How do I get into my sandbox please?TeeVeeed (talk) 01
- 30, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Oh dear! Unfortunately, somehow the "submit AfC" button was clicked, so I moved it per policy. There is a link on the main WP:Sandbox page that creates your own personalized sandbox. You won't lose that article, and if you need help I'll be happy to move it to your sandbox after you've created one. Let me know if you need further assistance. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 03:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes-thank-you, I had no intention of submitting it as an article! I don't know why it took me there since I was trying to get into my sandbox area. It was telling me "article for creation:sandbox/username....", like I had to submit my sandbox for creation as an article submission! -OK I will try to get into my sandbox. Thanks again, I may have more questions.TeeVeeed (talk) 03:39, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Parayakad part 3
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Parayakad_Village
Hello
In the meantime it was reviewed by someone else. I found you really focused and really wanted help from you. I amnot sure if you had a chance to look at that version. I have tried now to comply with the new reviewers advice (though I had no intent or reason for advertising to begin with) and neutralised the statements and tried to focused the referencing better. The text may have become a bit bland now.
I have been in touch with the wiki help desk and they have suggested that I could perhaps ask you review and help out. I would be grateful if you could be kind enough to do that.
The last edited version is above link Now. I would wait for your advice on how to proceed. Thank you for your help.
(Scleatus (talk) 19:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC))
- Hi there! I'm glad to help out. I think you did a lot to remove what Bonkers (the other reviewer) percieved (correctly, in my opinion) as promotional. Do you have a source for the following two sentences?:
- "A martial arts specialist known as Kunjan Parayakattil originally from North Kerala and a fugitive from the ire of his local ruler settled and started a Kalari in this area. People from near and far used for to attend for regular training and also for advanced skills. The kalari also used to treat ailments with special techniques."
- I've bolded the words that may be problematic, at least without a source. Keep your notes, I find them useful explanations. Did the people who "came from near and far" settle in the area, or were they just temporary visitors? What "special techniques" were used? All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 19:30, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Parayakad
Hello
"People from near and Far" is based on a statement from P.L. Sebastian's book that "trainees used to come from distant places". They were only temporary visitors.
The "advanced skills" is based on common knowledge that Kalaris provide basic physical training for flexibility for dancers and Kathakali artists and advanced martial arts training for combatants. Northen Kalari style movements were attractive to trainees in the southern Kerala where this kalari was established.
"Kalari also used to treat ailments with special techniques." This is based on common knowledge that the kalari guru(master) will be skilled in traditional medicine and it is always a part of a Kalari's function. The special techniques used are based on herbs and herbal oils and marma(vital points)knowledge know as marmachikitsa (treatment of vital spots)
Kalari Vidya(Kalari Arts/Knowledge) includes systems of marmaabhyasam(technique of vital spots) system of attacking and defending body's vital spots, marmaprayogam( application to the vitalspotss) a system of locks and methods of application to vital spots,and marmachikitsa(treatment of vital spots)system of emergency counter application of and treatment for injuries to body's vital spots.
I also include a general outline of Kalaripayattu for an over view....
Kalaripayattu is an Indian martial art from the southern state of ancient Kerala.One of the oldest fighting systems in existence
Northern kalaripayattu is based on elegant and flexible movements, evasions, jumps and weapons training, while the southern "Adi Murai" style primarily follows the hard impact based techniques. Combatants can disable or kill their opponents by merely touching the correct marmam (vital point). This is taught only to the most promising and level-headed persons, to discourage misuse of the technique. Marmashastram stresses on the knowledge of marmam and is also used for marma treatment (marmachikitsa).
Indian martial artists are knowledgeable in the field of traditional medicine and massage. Kalaripayattu teachers often provide massages (uzhichil) with medicinal oils to their students in order to increase their physical flexibility or to treat muscle injuries encountered during practice. Such massages are generally termed thirumal. Kalari massages and ayurvedic massages are related.
Sorry about the long message.
Thank you for your help.
The Best
(Scleatus (talk) 21:45, 15 July 2013 (UTC))
- No, the long message is good. The additional context is good for someone such as myself, who is completely unfamiliar with terms that may be common, even basic, in India. Would you like me to make a few edits that I think would help get this promoted? 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 21:49, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Joseph M. Schwartz
I have edited and rewritten the pages. on Joseph M, Schwartz. http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Joseph_M_Schwartz&action=edit§ion=4 Although I have searched for guidance on how Wikipedia handles footnotes, I remain confused. How should I deal with a mixture of in page references and explanatory footnotes? Other suggestions you may have? I have long pages of downloaded material evidencing other author's citing of Joseph M. Schwartz. Do you want me to send a list to you? Thank you for your assistance. Duane Campbell DuaneCampbell1 (talk) 22:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Duane Campbell! Thanks for writing. Please see WP:REFB, I think you'll find it helpful. I don't usually see the need for footnotes, I've only used them once, and that was to explain a discrepancy in references. Just my opinion. References are absolutely essential, particularly for a living person. First, would you please clean up the formatting of your article? Copy the information you have in green to your user page, so I can reference it there if need be, but the article can't be promoted with it there. Second, the article seems to repeat itself. Please pick one of the versions, and delete the other one. Yes, your list of references would be good, but how about sending me 4 or 5, I don't know if I want to deal with 50 of them! Hopefully I can help show you how to insert appropriate references if you still have trouble after reading the Wikipedia referencing guide. Your subject is clearly notable, all that is really needed is to format it to meet WP:MOS. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
In response to your suggestions above. You say, copy the material in green to my user page. I do not have material in Green. I have posted the latest version on user page DuaneCampbell1. In prior work I was posting on the talk page and in the sandbox as I tried to resolve the issues. Since posting the latest version, I do not see material that repeats itself.
re: list of references. as suggested.
Here is a list of Google book cites for Joseph M. Schwartz. http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=kKyojdUAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao These are the reviews I have included in the piece.
- “Schwartz Wins North American Society for Social Philosophy 1996 Book Award,” Journal of Social Philosophy, 27:2 (September 1996): 31.
- For list of recent winners, including Amartya Sen, G. A.Cohen, Will Kymlicka and Seyla Benhabib, see <http://www.pitt.edu/~nassp/bookaward.htm>.
- See Benjamin Barber, review of The Permanence of the Political, American Political Science Review 90:30 (Sept 1996): 640-41; and Steven Lukes, “In Circles,” Dissent (Spring 1997): 119-122.
- For representative reviews of the work see Erin O’Brien, review of The Future of Democratic Equality, Perspectives on Politics 7:4 (Dec 2009):972-74 and Michael Hirsch, “Returning Theory to Politics,” New Politics XII:3 (Summer 2009).
For endorsements of Schwartz’s work by Cornel West, Michael Walzer and Frances Fox Piven, see http://www.amazon.com/Future-Democratic-Equality-Rebuilding-Solidarity/dp/0415944651/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1373656711&sr=1-1.
A selected list of references to his writings in academic journals. 1. The Future of Democratic Equality: Reconstruction Social Solidarity in a Fragmented America, New York: Routeldge Press, Sept. 2008. 2. The Permanence of the Political: A Democratic Critique of the Radical Impulse to Transcend Politics. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1995. Beyond the Politics of Disappointment? (Congressional Quarterly), Wilson McWilliams (2000), 158 Child of the Sitdowns (Kent State University Press), Carlton Jackson (2008), 170, 204 “Comments: The Commentariat and Discourse Failure,” International Affairs, Richard Jackson (2007), 174 Contemporary Sociology, American Sociological Association (1997), 815 Critical Perspectives on Democracy (Rowman & Littlefield), Lyman Legters et al (1994), 110 173 Democracy, Education, and the Moral Life (Springer), Michael Katz, et al (2008), 123, 126 Democratic Hope (Cornell University), Robert Westbrook (2005), 71 Must Global Politics Constrain Democracy? (Princeton University), Alan Gilbert (1999), 291 The New World of Politics (Rowman & Littlefield), Neal Riemer (1997), 164 “The Permanence of the Political” (Review), Dissent 44 (2), S. Lukes (1997) “The Permanence of the Political” (Review), Journal of Politics 59 (1), S. Fisher (1997) “The Permanence of the Political” (Review), Contemporary Sociology-Journal of Reviews 26 (1), J. Scott (1997)
“The Permanence of the Political” (Review), American Political Science Review 90 (3), B. Barber (1996) “The Permanence of the Political” (Review), Critical Sociology 23 (1), G. Xia (1997), 127-132 Politics and Passion (Yale University Press), Michael Walzer (2006), 105
I have read and used the Wikipedia referencing guide. EAch time I use it, I seem to change the system. I have used the above group in the piece and they are entered with
Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). Please explain the formatting suggestions you recommend.
Thank you for the assistance.
Duane Campbell — Preceding unsigned comment added by DuaneCampbell1 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- Just wanted to let you know I see this. I want to give this a decent answer, so please excuse my delay in replying. I hope to address this thoroughly on the 21st. Thanks! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 20:28, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- OK, I've reviewed the references, I'm not going to "template" all of them, but I'll do some from your list, and I'll comment on the amazon.com link. Here is how I would input the information for the first four (which I numbered above):
- It would seem that using template:cite journal would be best. {{cite journal |year=1996 |title=Schwartz Wins North American Society for Social Philosophy 1996 Book Award |journal=Journal of Social Philosophy |volume=27 |issue=2 |pages=31}}
- template:cite web seems appropriate here, as follows: {{cite web |url=http://www.pitt.edu/~nassp/bookaward.htm |title=2012 NASSP BOOK AWARD |website= |publisher=NORTH AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR SOCIAL PHILOSOPHY |accessdate=July 22, 2013}}
- Again, it appears that the cite journal template is best, but this time we have an author to credit. {{cite journal |last1=Barber |first1=Benjamin |year=1997 |title=review of The Permanence of the Political |journal=American Political Science Review|volume=90|issue= 30|pages= 640-641|accessdate=22 July 2013}}
- regarding the book listed on amazon, I don't know where that quotation originates from. amazon.com is not a reliable source, as anyone can edit it. If you find the origination of that quote, it would indeed be a very useful addition. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thank you for the response. I will work through these. when the references are fixed, should I re submit on Articles for Creation/ Joseph M. Schwartz, or on Duane Campbell user page? 03:27, 23 July 2013 (UTC)03:27, 23 July 2013 (UTC)DuaneCampbell1 (talk) Duane Campbell, July 22, 2013.
- I would place it in Articles for Creation. Also, I highly recommend you place each reference directly after the fact/sentence that it supports. Again, let me know if you need more specific assistance. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. 18:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)~ Duane Campbell July 23, 2013, — Preceding unsigned comment added by DuaneCampbell1 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Parayakad part 5
Hello
Yes.That will be kind. Please Go ahead.
Thank you for your help.
(Scleatus (talk) 02:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC))
- Please take a look at the changes I've made. Also please any factual errors I may have inadvertently introduced! If you like them, let me know. I think this article is ready for promotion. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:09, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
David Lerner (Designer) Submission Decline--Q's about notability
Hi There,
My submission for fashion designer David Lerner was declined. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/David_Lerner_(Designer)
The comment added said: "Comment: none of the references are about the subject per se, merely about his line of clothing. At the same time, they are not independent of subject. "
I was wondering what some better sources / types of sources would be that would prove the subject to be notable. Would an interview with him be okay? You say they have to be independent of the subject...how can we show his notability while choosing something totally independent?
Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.21.88 (talk) 17:23, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Greetings 108.41... Thanks for writing. The sources you list are ok, but they reference a fashion line, and you are writing a biographical article. Try to find news sources on the person himself. An interview with him would be wonderful, as long as it is published in Vogue magazine, or the New York Times, or some other reputable source. You can't use an interview that you've conducted yourself, because other editors can not do any fact-checking, and that constitutes original research, which is a no-no around here. Also the interview can not be used if it appears on facebook, blogspot, or some other website that anyone can edit. A really good place to start is WP:REFB. Just to clarify, when I said it needs to be independent, it means that the source can not be something in any way controlled by the subject. In other words, Mr. Lerner's personal website is fine for factual accuracy (presumably), but does not help establish notability, because anyone can create their own web page. However, if a writer for Vogue does a write-up on Mr. Lerner, that is independent, because presumably Mr. Lerner does not have any say on Vogues editorial policy. I hope that helps. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the helpful feedback! We are now thinking that it would be better to instead make a page not about David Lerner himself, but a page for his fashion line, "David Lerner Designs"--in that case, all the sources we already have would be fine, right? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.21.88 (talk) 17:12, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Parayakad
Hello. Thank you. It is fine. Shall I go ahead and submit it now.
The Best (Scleatus (talk) 13:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC))
Parayakad
Hello
I have resubmitted this article now. Thank you. The best.
(Scleatus (talk) 21:01, 19 July 2013 (UTC))
- done, and promoted. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:52, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the quick response to to writing of our site. May I ask what was at fault which helped you arrive at your decision, what neets changed to ensure it passes your terms? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.155.233.86 (talk) 22:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Please read the links cited in my decline reason. Please understand that what I say is with respect, because I understand that being a new editor at Wikipedia is difficult, and the policies can be daunting. They are there for a good reason, though. In short, your proposed article reads much more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article. It is not *about* the company, so much as it is *for* the company. Additionally, the article needs independent, reliable sources. If you need help, see WP:REFB. I hope that is helpful. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 22:51, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Countdown—Time in Outer Space
Hello! Your submission of Countdown—Time in Outer Space at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SusanLesch (talk) 00:07, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Charles Agnew
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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Countdown—Time in Outer Space
![]() | On 28 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Countdown—Time in Outer Space, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the AC/DC song "Whole Lotta Rosie" has an opening riff directly mimicking a track from the Dave Brubeck Quartet album Countdown—Time in Outer Space? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Countdown—Time in Outer Space. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:47, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Force Therapeutics Afc
Hi 78.26,
Thanks for your quick review and feedback on the article. The comment helps a lot to give a more clear reason why it was rejected besides the simple generic wiki "advertisement" statement. Much appreciated.
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Force_Therapeutics From what you're saying, to improve I need to find more source material on the background of the company. Would that alone be enough to get this article approved? I know it reads a little like an ad but that is the way the available sources direct the article...most of them talk about the company's product offerings. It's hard to strike a proper balance with the sources available. Is there anything else I need to do to make this a verifiable article? I've been tweaking as much as I can to make the language neutral.
Looking forward to your response.
O obineche (talk) 14:37, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hello O obineche! Thanks for writing. A general comment first. You duplicate your references. You use inline citations (congratulations, this is one of the hardest things for many AfC contributors to master), and then you re-list them in bullet form. Please remove the bullet list, its redundant. As written, the article may be summarized as "There's this company that exists. Here are it's products." Why is this company worthy of an encyclopedia entry? The closest the article comes is the sentence "FORCE Therapeutics was selected to be one of ten “Healthcare Transformers” as part of the inaugural class in the StartUp Health Academy for Health and Wellness Entrepreneurship." I understand that it can be tricky finding the balance between establishing a company's notability and not sounding promotional. Use your sources for facts, but try not to copy the tone of the articles, if they come across as promotional. I would concentrate on true news articles, such as the Huffington Post. Be wary of press releases, which is what the emrdailynews sources appear to be. I hope that helps. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:45, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks again for your great feedback! I just made another edit paying close attention to your comments. I tried to lengthen the history portion with some other source material I found to give the article more balance. Also, the language is about as neutral as it can be without losing meaning and context. Let me know what you think when you get the chance. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Force_Therapeutics O obineche (talk) 21:23, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
regarding Monster High
It was not personal analysis, I did research the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.114.3 (talk) 17:04, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- Wonderful! Please cite your sources, and all is good. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:42, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Here it is, http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=66961 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzVxg04yEmM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.114.3 (talk) 17:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- YouTube is not considered a reliable source, in and of itself. If it is a news story, say from the BBC, cite the BBC instead of YouTube. By the way, please see WP:REFB, I think that will help you. If you need help with the mechanics of citing sources, let me know and I'll try to help. On an unrelated note, I most cordially invite you to create an account. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 18:01, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Claude Blankiet - help with revision
Thank you for reviewing the article about Claude Blankiet. This is my first attempt at writing an article for Wikipedia and I appreciate your help. I have made some revisions/added more outside sources as you suggested. Would you please review the edited article and let me know what still needs work. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Claude_Blankiet Thank you, Jaj531 (talk) 22:34, 14 August 2013 (UTC)Julie Jones — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaj531 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- The article is still a bit promotional. I think reviewing WP:PEACOCK will help you out. In my opinion, you have mulitple reliabel sources with significant coverage (copcomm and winespectator), so notability is established. I think it would be helpful if it were broken into sections, take a look at some other wikipedia articles for ideas on formatting. Hope that helps. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Please approve
Dear 78.26 We have edited to Kento Masuda page contribution http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kento_Masuda#cite_ref-KLAR_0 as per your advice. Please kindly check and approve. --Kaori Muraji (talk) 14:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
article on Rainer M. Holm-Hadulla
Dear 78.26,
thank you for your message of some months ago. Meanwhile I got a messare from Hasteur, notifying me that the article will be deleted if not edited soon.
I have been trying to get more references on my article from Prof. Holm-Hadulla ( Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Rainer M. Holm-Hadulla), e.g. on his role in IPA, about which I had heard from a student of his. But I didn't, so herewith I give up on that article and request it be deleted. Just bc I am curious - if I had gotten the missing references, would the article have been eligible for publication? I used the one on http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Carlfred_Broderick as kind of template, this guy, too, had some books and some media appearances, without being as known as S. Freud or a pop star, but still he got published in the internat'l wikipedia. Thank you in advance and best wishes Cvfriede (talk) 15:39, 9 August 2013 (UTC)cvfriede Aug 9 2013
PS: Is there some kind of reply function to messages people get from you? I could not find any.
- I don't have time right now to give the complete answer your question deserves, but your article for creation page can be restored. I would move it to your personal sandbox, then it won't get deleted. Hasteur is merely part of a project that is attempting to get rid of 10's of thousands of pages that have been abandoned. Yes, you can "reply" by using template:talkback, as I am going to do on your talkpage. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 18:09, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- I guess this has a simiple answer. Yes, if there has been multiple, reliable, in-depth coverage of your professor, it would easily be eligible for publication. I think the Wikipedia policy you're really looking for is WP:PROF. I hope that is helpful. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Inquiry for an approve
Dear 78.26
Thank you for your advice. We have done the contribution to creation page along with your advice especially notation in depth of the details with references. That is Masuda's artistic careers also how deepen with notable personalities so I was wondering how handle with care all these information. Please considering to approve a page. Best. --Orugoro (talk) 08:02, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kento_Masuda#cite_ref-KLAR_0
- Hello Orugoro and Kaori Muraji, I have looked over the article, and thank you for all the hard work you've put in. There are still some issues. First, the article reads as a promotional piece for Mr. Masuda. An encyclopedia article should be *about* the subject, not *for* the subject. Please remove peacock terms (see WP:PEACOCK) from the article, such as "Masuda has had the chance to work with world renowned personalities also a global sensation with a swiftly-growing fan base" which is found in the lead paragraph. Also, notability is not inherited, so trying to demonstrate how important the artists Mr. Masuda has worked with are is also not helpful. An example of this is "The album was audio mastered by his friend Bobby Hata,[3] a recipient of numerous gold records for his work at Warner Bros. Records". It would be better to say "The album was mastered (engineered?) by Bobby Hata." Leave out friend, you don't have a source to support that claim, and leave out the gold records part, because that has nothing to do with Masuda, and can be discovered by following the allmusic reference. This is not an exhaustive list of all the wording that should be modified, but I hope it helps guide you as to what the reviewers at Articles for Creation are looking for. Don't use Amazon as a reference, it is not really reliable, and anyone can list an item at any price. I could list a book there for 100 million yen, but that wouldn't mean anything. The biggest problem is that I still don't see any in-depth coverage of the person, as a person. Lists of album credits, yes. Directory listings, yes. Hasn't any newspaper or magazine ever written about who Mr. Masuda is? There are a number of grammatical problems with the page, but that won't prevent it from being moved to the mainspace. I have corrected one error that caused accidental humor. If you need further help in this area, I'll see what I can do. Keep working at it, I think I'll check this person's music out, I am a fan of contemporary instrumental music. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 00:25, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello 78.26, thank you so much for every details which we have edited done along with your advice. We also have had searched all Masuda's information on the current web, I think it's everything. Right now our current status is waiting approved, should be keep waiting for it with someone another librarian? If you are alright please let moved up to the mainspace. If not, let us know what you need we will try to the best. Ah yes, enjoy his music then you would be understand him as a person, I think? Thank you. --Kaori Muraji (talk) 03:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello 78.26, thank you for approved a page. I am sure keep on improvement this page and we are really enjoying to contribution as well as learning what is Wikipedia. We are really pleased that you will build that world's schoolbook project! Please enjoying his music too that we loves his art of the music. Sincerely, --Kaori Muraji (talk) 19:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
An Barnstar for You!
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Congratulations, 78.26! You're receiving The Working Man's Barnstar because you reviewed 117 articles during the recent AFC Backlog elimination drive! Thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia at-large and helping to keep the backlog down. We hope you continue reviewing submissions and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! Mdann52 (talk) 15:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
You're Welcome re:Elmo Tanner!
May have more information to add to this from some old fan mags, but it may take a bit to get that done. We hope (talk) 17:48, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- I certainly understand! I've got more "to-do" projects on Wikipedia than I'll ever get around to in this lifetime. Good to hear from you again! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- There's just so much from the various fan magazines about various celebs, I've been taking one magazine at a time, trying to go through it totally for all that could be used-either for articles or as photos. Glad to see you're still hard at work with the music articles! We hope (talk) 18:15, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- If you'd be particularly on the lookout for articles regarding Maurice Rocco, I'd certainly be very appreciative. There's got to me more out there on this artist than I've found. Many thanks! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 18:18, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Putting the article on my watchlist now and will see what's around about him. We might get lucky with some older newspapers and magazines. Will definitely take a look! We hope (talk) 18:50, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Abbey Records
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The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments on my earlier submission and for your willingness to help move it from rejection to acceptance. I would like to discuss with you further what, in particular, I might do in order to facilitate this. In establishing "notability," are we talking about citations in media sources, for example, and if so, how would that be worked into the article? I would be glad to hear any specific suggestions you may have. Clistonb (talk) 19:58, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Clistonb! It is not that the sources themselves must be worked into the article, it is that what is already in the article must be supported by reliable sources. For instance Insurance Journal and National Underwriter are two good examples that may help with establishing notability. I just sent you a "Welcome" message that has some very useful links. I would also recommend you take a look at the Referencing For Beginners page. In this particular instance, the two core Wikipedia policies that are preventing your article from being promoted are Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research. I hope that is helpful. Again, if you identify some reliable sources, including some independent ones, and aren't sure how to apply the wikicode that creates the references, let me know, and I'll give a hand. (Although have patience, as you can tell it may take a few days for me to reply) All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 21:36, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks again. I have gone back in and tried to fix the issues you mention, and I would also like to take you up on your offer of helping me apply the wikicode creating the references. What I have now is just rudimentary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clistonb (talk • contribs) 20:20, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- That is a good start. Based on what you've given, I can turn this into references. Problem with #4: It doesn't really support the claims, it is just a blank transmittal forms. Do you have anything to support the 1937 creation date? 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 20:49, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Aside from the SLA website, no, nothing on the 1937 date. I can't even imagine it gained any media coverage. What else would serve as an acceptable source?
We could scratch reference #4 and lose nothing. Seems like #3 got lost somewhere, but that third reference could cover the Stamping Office portion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clistonb (talk • contribs) 23:16, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
You're an asshole. stop editing my edits. suck a dick. love Gage Cross