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Blooddrunk (song) DYK

Hi. I've reviewed your DYK submission for the article Blooddrunk (song), and made a comment on it at the submissions page. Please feel free to reply or comment there. Cheers, Olaf Davis | Talk 18:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

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Re: This Is Where I Came In

Whoa! I have no idea what happened there. I was reverting the edit that had the lyrics on. No idea where the WJET article comes in at all. I honestly didn't mean to do that, all I did was hit the rollback button - which should've reverted to the version without the lyrics. Thanks for letting me know, I really have no idea what happened there. I think the intertubes got tangled. ||| antiuser 18:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 1 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Blooddrunk (song), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Wafulz (talk) 14:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Help with music sources

Hi there. I am writing an article, and what I've done so far is here: Book of Love (album). Unfortunately, since it's an old album, I am having a real hard time finding good sources. There's no 'limited preview' books listed in Google Books which mention the album or its singles, nothing substantial comes up when searching on Thomson Gale's databases, and dozens of web searches have not yielded much either. Searches on Rolling Stone and NME did not bring up anything. Do you know of where I can look to find some sources for this? I'd be most grateful if you have any ideas. Thanks, — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 06:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Power of Omens

Since you successfully prodded Power of Omens, you may be interested in knowing that it has been recreated, with even less material than the article that was deleted originally. You may be interested in taking it to WP:AFD. Just thought you'd like to know. Cheers, CP 16:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar dude! I appreciate it a bunch. Drewcifer (talk) 03:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Strapping Young Lad

Hi! Sorry, I haven't replied earlier, I don't really come to or edit Wikipedia during summer. I'll take a look at the POV issues, you can also give me a list of other things you find problematical. I think a FAR can be avoided this way, don't you? Although I do believe it is not POV to state that an album received favorable reviews, i.e. significantly more favorable reviews than negative ones, and such magazines as Kerrang and Metal Hammer praised it. I think "highly favorable reviews" is not the right expression, but you could help me reword it so it implies the things I have mentioned (lot of positive reviews from well-respected magazines) Gocsa (talk) 18:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Meshuggah peer review help

Good day! I've red your message from 5th august just now. I did not have an access to the internet. I would like to know about the POVs you told me about. What exactly do you mean?-- LYKANTROP ✉ 19:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Matt Drake from Evile's comments

I don't see any non-critical responses on the RiB article. And how is one's opinion a critical response. It's not like he's a professional reviewer. RandySavageFTW (talk) 02:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Also, I didn't even start it. I said it should be discussed. Someone else started it and then I just voted.. RandySavageFTW (talk) 02:11, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

None of your reasons for removing have any basis in Wikipedia policy, and is merely down to the fact you dislike the band.

Yeah, because I said that, right?

Frankly, I'm fed up of having to waste my time explaining such things to editors like you who try to police major metal related articles by removing any content you disagree with.

^^.

Maybe if you made a Legacy section for the AJFA article and put his comment under there I'd let it stay. It shouldn't be in Critical reception... RandySavageFTW (talk) 01:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of celebrities involved at WrestleMania

Replied to your comment.--S_RX 22:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

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WT:FTC

Morgan, while I can understand that the numerous issues brought to the page seem to be rocking the boat, it is all part of Wikipedia's process which has continually tried to dynamically improve quality. This affects numerous articles and editors, but in the end it is meant to improve Wikipedia's overall quality. All of which is no waste of time.

That being said, I hope you can refrain from posting in a manner which can be construed as uncivil. If you have a point you'd like to convey, I'm sure it would be better heard if you remain calm during the discussion. If I misinterpret you words wrong, I apologize. Either way, I hope you bring your view point to the discussion so that the best path can be sought. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC))

I agree that the number of proposals on the table right now is excessive. Some of them are good ideas and are the next logical progression to improve quality. Others I'm still on the fence about. Right now, I'm seeing where things are going before I pick a stance. I hope you'll follow the discussion and weigh in as your thoughts would be appreciated. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 19:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC))

Maiden

My brother has a Maiden bio and some magazines. I'll keep a look out for reviews. My library has backissues of Spin and Mojo from 2000 onwards, so there might be reviews for the more recent albums in there. WesleyDodds (talk) 22:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Here's all the reviews Rolling Stone has: [1]. Two is better than nothing, especially when one is a contemporary review for Number of the Beast. Speaking of which, have you checked out the Classic Albums series of DVDs? It surprisingly focuses on a large number of hard rock and metal albums. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you take a look at Thriller, which is at FAC now? My main concern with it right now is that the prose needs to be improved, and given your comments at previous FACs, your viewpoint is the sort of thing the article needs so its problems can be fixed. I also feel like there's some important facts/topics missing, but whatever they are they aren't occuring to me. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Crap, Thriller got promoted before I could bring up more issues at the FAC. I really need to be more forceful about stating when I think an article needs more work . . . WesleyDodds (talk) 03:14, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Mug shots

I started a thread here: Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Mug_shots. Would you mind giving input? Thankyou. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 03:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Elexorien deletion.

As requested, i'll do it via this. While you might find my email uncivil. It is just the common reaction when you delete something a person worked hard on and something I did for the band in question.

I still don't see why you had to delete that page. There are other Trollzorn bands who have a page on wikipedia and they didn't get delete with the reason of not a known label. Look at Trollzorn.de doesn't really seem like a small label when you have 14 bands on it. Who are pretty known in western europe.

My reaction to you on email was not right but again I don't find it a good reason as I have seen worse articles on wikipedia and they are still on it.

The internet is a great place to promote and find knowledge about bands and Wikipedia should support that instead of just deleting stuff.

To show you this band has toured quite a bit in europe.

http://elexorien.com/?page_id=6

and has a label.

http://www.trollzorn.de/

http://www.trollzorn.de/trollzorn/html/bands_elexorien.php

Emteekek (talk) 16:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

"Deja Vu"

Now an FA. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 00:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hope to have your help again with my future endeavors. Thanks Morgan. --Efe (talk) 12:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

List of Slipknot awards

I've made ammendments per your comments on the FLC, I'd appreciate your input again if you would. Rezter 14:25, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter

The Miss Julie Memorial LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter!
Issue XVII: November 12, 2008

Wake up WP:LGBT! It's time to kick in gear and get some things done!

Project News

Wake up!

I say this to myself as much as I say it to all of us. I work a lot by myself or with individual editors who spend time at Featured Article Candidates. It seems on November 5 a fog was lifted off my brain that helped me realize that we have massive potential in this project to get things done. Take this allegory, for instance: On Wednesday, Nov. 5, 1980, my 10th-grade American history teacher started class by unfurling The New York Times. She pointed to its triple banner headline: “Reagan Easily Beats Carter; Republicans Gain in Congress; D’Amato and Dodd are Victors.” “Save this paper,” she told us. “This is the start of a whole new era.” Judith Warner from The New York Times

It definitely seems a start to a whole new era now. If planets align correctly to remind us that whatever advances we may have made in electing what appears to be an extraordinary president in the US, the moons that revolve around those planets also serve to illustrate it's not that simple. Florida, Arizona, and California all appear to have banned same sex marriage. As someone who was married in California and lives in Florida, this is particularly poignant. We seem to be at the juncture of two converging paths. If we maximize our efforts and take the right ones, we might just be able to affect some change for ourselves.

The power of Wikipedia and California Proposition 8 (2008)

Though what we do is an interesting hobby for some, we have the power to make a difference. California's ballot initiative to ban gay marriage was a fierce fight. It's being challenged right now, but just look at how Wikipedia played a role in that: in October 2008, 360,238 people read its article. On November 5, an astounding 467,000 people read it. I commend the editors who work on that article—both those who support and oppose it. A look at the talk page shows a concerted effort to keep it civil and accurate.

What can we do?

How do you fight ignorance? With information. That's what Wikipedia is for. This project is overwhelming with 8,576 articles in its scope. We can continue to work piecemeal as we have in the past, or we can focus on goals. These are examples of areas we can concentrate on.

Current political events	LGBT Media and Literature	LGBT History	Sex and sexuality
Articles about political issues in the US and around the world that have been especially relevant within the past 5 years	Depictions of LGBT people and issues on television, film, newspapers, magazines	Topics about gay rights activism and the opposition to it	Articles relating to sex and sexuality
Florida Amendment 2 (2008), California Proposition 8 (2008), E.O. Green School shooting, etc.	The Advocate, Curve (magazine), Washington Blade, Milk (film), Brokeback Mountain, etc.	Moral Majority, ACT UP, Queer Nation, Mattachine Society, Jesse Helms, Jerry Falwell, Mathew Shepard, etc.	Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, sexual and gender expression, etc.

There are more than 8,000 articles to work on. Can we build a list of priorities? Can we build enough enthusiasm to work on these? What if we had editors who oversaw progress in these areas and reported to the talk page or in the newsletter? Surely someone here wants to report on the progress of sex articles.

Tony Perkins (irony) from the conservative Family Research Council was heartened by the recent passages of gay marriage bans. The Republican Party is without direction. What's going to take the place of a moderate voice will not be pleasant to our ears. Watching and improving articles of subjects that have opposed gay rights in the past will be of vital importance very soon, I predict.

But WP:LGBT is not a very active project

All we can do is start somewhere. The first step is answering this newsletter on the project talk page. Join in the discussion.

More things we can do

Give out more barnstars, and let each other know that what they're doing is valued.
Create a guide to stave off burnout, because editors in this project get burned out faster than others. There are many hills to climb.
Bring back the monthly collaboration project.
Participate in LGBT Peer reviews.
Get familiar with the characteristics of Good Articles and get our top priority articles to WP:GA.
Keep our project page and open tasks template updated.
Use the Newsletter, Moni3! You can suggest what to send out in the newsletter, too!
Offer research materials, copy editing, ideas, and support to your fellow editors.
Keep the project talk page informed of problems and discussions we should know about.

Proposal: Put Importance Levels on articles

If this was decided long before I was a member, maybe it's time to revisit it. Other WikiProjects, such as WP:Novels determine that some subjects have an importance category: Top, High, Mid, Low, or None (undetermined). If we decide that our most core articles, it might help to organize which articles to address first. Top importance, for example, would be Gay, Homosexual, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Sappho, Oscar Wilde, Stonewall riots, for example. High importance would be Homosexuality and psychology, Harvey Milk, Mattachine Society, Harry Hay, or Daughters of Bilitis, and so on. This can be a matter of discussion, or perhaps we could have someone in charge of determining these levels for all the articles we have tagged.

So, like Slim Whitman, "I'm Calling You"

The editors I have admired in the past, who have done great things alone, and who I think can help us all do extraordinary things now: SatyrTN, Dev920, Aleta, Becksguy, Otto4711, BelovedFreak, Benjiboi, Bookkeeper of the Occult, Queerudite, FisherQueen (I will marry you), PaulB, APK, ZigZig20s, AllStarEcho (I know you're out there), Raystorm, and my very own copy editor, Dank55.

These are the editors I've seen working (and I know I'm forgetting a few). There's more of you out there I haven't seen. Some of you are new. We need all of you. Please help.

Miami, January 18, 1977 after the gay rights ordinance was passed: While Bryant and the others were creating the beginnings of the repeal effort, (gay activists) Basker, Campbell, Kunst, and the other (gay rights) ordinance supporters congratulated themselves on their success and then quickly disbanded... There was no organized recognition or celebration of the victory. As one activist remembered, "We just went home." They had little idea of the battle that was before them. - Fred Fejes in Gay Rights and Moral Panic, 2008

Don't go home yet, please. --Moni3 (talk) 00:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

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