User:Joseywales1961/sandbox/2
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Notability
[edit]PART 1
When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.
- A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.
1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.
Answer: It is important to AGF and not bite new editors because new editors have the potential to becoming great editors. If we bite the newbies, then we risk losing some of our potential contributors. By assuming good faith, we are welcoming newbies to the community and encourage them to edit more. Interstellarity (talk) 18:15, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
.We should always help the new editors who want to provide good contribution and want to improve Wikipedia even at time they might not know the the Wikipedia guidelines. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
2. In your own words, how does notability is defined in Wikipedia?
Answer: Notability is determined by the number of reliable sources that discuss the topic. The topic must be discussed thoroughly and must be independent of the subject, which means it is not connected to the subject and not a conflict of interest. Interstellarity (talk) 18:21, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if (1) it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject whee by the sources talk "directly" about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2) it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?
Answer: No, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a how to manual. Source: WP:NOTHOWTO. Interstellarity (talk) 18:23, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?
Answer: GNG is the guideline that all WP articles have to follow. SNG are a set of guidelines used for certain subjects. If a WP article is one of those categories in SNG, then I would use that, otherwise I would use GNG. Interstellarity (talk) 18:30, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Both can be used when patrolling but those subject falls under SNG/SSG (sport specific guidelines) but fails to meet the guidelines usually do not survive in article for deletion, unless passes a strong GNG guidelines. (We will discuss AfD in later assignments). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?
Answer:If I came across this article, I would do a Google search to see if any reliable sources come up. If they do, then I would tag it with {{unreferenced}}. If none come up, I would consider it not notable. Interstellarity (talk) 18:33, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. I like the fact that you will search for the sources which is a very good practice for a reviewer. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- B. Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below, please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify which notability criteria they meet or fail.
6. A New York city based 2019 start up software company , specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.
Answer: It is not notable because it isn't something that stands out from the rest of the companies. Interstellarity (talk) 18:41, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. "Nothing stands out" is not the criteria we define if a company is notable or not - (pls see answer 2 above). For a "2019 start up" which means the company not even one year old and with only 200K capital, it would only enough for official renovation but not a business fund as such it usually fails WP:NCORP. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
7. Viviane Araújo who is a female Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with a mixed martial arts record of 7-1 and she is currently ranked #6 in UFC and #10 worldwide in the women's flyweight division.
Answer: This is notable. In WP:NBOX, they meet all the criteria for notability. She has a world title and a non-world title. Interstellarity (talk) 18:45, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. WP:NBOX is for boxers. WP:MMABIO is for mixed martial artists (MMA fighters). WP:NKICK is for kickboxer/muay thai fighters. Just as WP:NBASE - for baseballers is different from WP:NCRICKET for criketters. Also WP:NGRIDIRON (American football) SSN is different from WP:NFOOTBALL (soccer) or WP:RLN (Rugby League) or WP:NRU (Rugby union). If you are not familiar with the subject, especially certain sports even after you read the guidelines, then do not review the articles. I dont review any articles with half the page full of mathematics/engineering equations or proofs. By the way Araujo is MMA fighter and not a boxer and she does not have a world title. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2019 and to be released on August 2020 in the cinemas.
Answer: No, per WP:NFF, it must be supported by reliable sources. Interstellarity (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. As indicated on Section B above "Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability". Pls read WP:NFF and try one more time and answer the question below.
Answer again: The filming has not yet begun. WP:NFF says that it should not have an article before production begins so it seems like it's not ready for an article just yet, but after production begins if the production is notable, then it can have an article. Otherwise, I would wait until the film is released before making an article about it. Interstellarity (talk) 19:04, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:12, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2019 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.
Answer: Yes, they have significant coverage in local newspapers. Interstellarity (talk) 18:54, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. Pls read the WP:NPOL again and answer below CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer again: Based on WP:NPOL, the political candidates have significant press coverage in multiple newspapers so that the candidates are presumed to be notable. Interstellarity (talk) 19:04, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
. If you read the WP:NPOL guidelines (see below), then you will notice the subject does not pass NPOL. First of all, the newspapers are local and not national. Subject is currently hold any political position or he has won the position he "is running" as the election is held in November 2019.
- Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or sub-national (e.g., province- or state-wide) office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. This also applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them.
- Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.
10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in Spotify.
Answer: No, they do not satisfy WP:SINGER. Interstellarity (talk) 18:57, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- C. Based on which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteria (example MUSICBI#1 - if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations
11. Moscow theater hostage crisis
Answer: WP:NCRIME. It is not breaking news and they are covered by reliable sources. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. As it is a event, it also passes WP:LASTING for it effected many people and a political talking point of how Russia government handled the situation. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
12. Carthage
Answer: WP:GEOLAND. Populated, legally recognized places. Although this is a historical city, it is notable because of its significance in various civlivations. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer: WP:NACADEMIC. No. 3. He got elected to an academic position which as Journal of Economic Psychology. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Meets WP:NPROF #1 [1] for being highly cited and #8 (not 3) and chief editor of Journal of Economic Psychology [2].
14. Messier 17
Answer: WP:NASTCRIT. No. 2. The Omega Nebula is listed in the Messier catalogue. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
15. Miley Cyrus
Answer: WP:SINGER. No. 2. She had nine singles that were on the Billboard Hot 100. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Subject also pass WP:NACTOR as she is an actress and have major rolls in many films. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Interstellarity, See above and ping me when you are done with the questions and ready for review. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:10, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: All set. Ping me when you have reviewed my work. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, Pls re-read section "C" again as I have missed out some requirement which I missed last time. my appologies. Once you have rework your answer (if any) in Section C then, ping me. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:23, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: All set. Interstellarity (talk) 12:38, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, Pls see comment above and pls answer question 8 & 9 on Section B again. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have answered them again. Interstellarity (talk) 19:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- PS: At the top you put Counter Vandalism. This is a new page patrol course, not a vandalism course. Interstellarity (talk) 19:29, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity:, See comment on Question 9 Section B above. Kindly read the info/guidelines carefully next time and also do provide justification/further explanation of your answer. Let me know if you have any questions, if you do, list it down below. See Assignment 2 below.
Sources
[edit]- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for such content claimed should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary and answered the the below questions in your own words.
- You could contact WP:RX if you could not find the sources yourself either on web due to Paywall content or printed books.
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Topic | Explanation | 5 Examples | Comment by Cass |
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Reliable source | A source where all the points of view are discussed. |
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User generated sources | A source that is written by the subject about themselves. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC) |
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Non Independent source | A source where the author has a close connection with the subject. |
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Type | Explanation | Sources (15 Primary ; 5 Secondary ; 5 Tertiary) | Comment by Cass |
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Primary | A source where the author is directly involved with the event. |
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Secondary | A source where the author gets data from primary sources such as summarizing, describing, and analyzing. |
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Tertiary | Similar to a secondary source, but gets it's information mainly from secondary sources. |
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Subject | Primary | Secondary | Tertiary | Comment by Cass |
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Example: Art | Example:Sculpture | Example:Article critiquing the sculpture | Example:Encyclopedic article on the sculptor | |
History | Bill of Rights | A summary of the of the Bill of Rights | An encyclopedic article on the Bill of Rights | ![]() |
Science | Science lab report | A science textbook | Almanacs | ![]() |
Athletes | Footage of athletes playing a game | A biography of an athlete | A encyclopedic article about an athlete | ![]() |
- 4. Please explain in your own words why the content claimed needs to be verified?
Answer: Content claimed need to be verified because Wikipedia needs to have facts that are true. The only way to know if they are true is if reliable sources say are true. If we didn't have a policy is verifying, then Wikipedia would just be a place to post anything from true to false statements. Interstellarity (talk) 22:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
. Content needs to verifiable not because it is the facts or true - see WP:But it's true!. If source indicated XXX is from Jamaica but the fact XXX is from Cuba, we put XXX is from Jamaica in article. We will correct the info when the sources (not need to be the same source) correct itself. For example Alexander the Great - How he die is based on which sources you read, from poising, to malaria and typhoid fever to infectious (meningitis) to acute pancreatitis and etc. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- 5.Could we used Wikipedia as the source? and why?
Answer: No, Wikipedia is not a reliable source because anyone can edit it and not everyone on Wikipedia wants to build the encyclopedia. Interstellarity (talk) 22:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
. We can not be the sources as the content of Wikipedia is supported by "other sources" - See WP:CIRCULAR. Wikipedia is a online knowledge sharing platform. Readers should check the sources in the article and verify/read the info themselves. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- 6.Give an example and explain why a source is reliable but not independent of a subject?
Answer: A chamber of commerce website is reliable but not independent because the people who write about it live in a particular area, but it is reliable because the info is verifiable. Interstellarity (talk) 22:53, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
sources would be verifiable do not reliable. Reliable source is a third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, reliable editorial judgment where by all majority and significant minority views are present and pursuant to the verifiability policy. Example: If an article is about XXX and the source of the content claimed is from New York Time is a reliable source, but if the article is about an interview of XXX and the content is full of XXX said this XXX said that, then the source is not independent as he content is taken from the XXX themselves. Thus New York Times is a reliable source but not independent in that particular article. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- 7.Give an example and explain why a source is independent source but not reliable?
Answer: A newspaper review is independent, but not reliable because a newspaper review is the author's opinion about the subject and information should be as neutral as possible. Interstellarity (talk) 22:53, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".
Q 8 and 9
[edit]- 8.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/DCIA_David_Petraeus.jpg/220px-DCIA_David_Petraeus.jpg)
David Howell Petraeus AO (/pɪˈtreɪ.əs/; born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011,[1] until his resignation on November 9, 2012[2] after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported.[3]
Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008),[4] a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands.[5]
In 2003, Petraeus commanded the 101st Airborne Division in the fall of Baghdad[6][7]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-cia-resign-nbc/1695271/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/09/06/petraeus-sworn-into-cia.cnn?iref=allsearch | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-petraeus-paula-broadwell_n_2118893 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.geni.com/people/Sixtus-Petraeus/6000000015418360012 | ![]() |
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? Not sure | ✘ No |
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/05/petraeus-exclusive-201005 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/beyond/interviews/petraeus.html | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/david-petraeus-general-surge-401740.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "Petraeus sworn in as CIA director". CNN. Retrieved October 11, 2019.
- ^ Johnson, Kevin (November 9, 2012). "David Petraeus resigns from CIA". USA Today. Retrieved November 9, 2012.
- ^ "Petraeus Shocked By Girlfriend's Emails". HuffPost. 2012-11-12. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ "Sixtus Petraeus". geni.com.
- ^ "David Petraeus' Winning Streak". Vanity Fair. March 30, 2010. Retrieved October 11, 2019.
- ^ "beyond baghdad". www.pbs.org. 2004-02-12. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ "David Petraeus: General Surge". The Independent. 2007-09-08. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- *Few things to note.
1. Utube - We usually will take digital/press source. For video especially from Utube - We need to look at the info is from the source directly or taken from other sources (A) and publishes their own channel (in source B). Here we have CNN utube channel - so it is considered reliable. 2. Huffpost - Although HuffPost contributors is considered not reliable in WP:RSP but if we look closely, the piece is written by By ANNE FLAHERTY, KIMBERLY DOZIER AND ADAM GOLDMAN, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. The Associated press is considered reliable source as they sell their news to other news agencies. However, the content is based on many individual opinions, for such I would talk it as not reliable sources.
- 9. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer: The subject is notable under criteria 1 of WP:POLITICIAN. They are notable because this person held the title of Director of CIA which is a notable title.
Being a CIA director and a United States Army general in is not really a politician per say, but he passes Military history/Notability guide#2 as a U.S Army general as per the content above.(note a person who serves in the military is not a politician and visa versa unless they have held both positions in the said fields above such as Leonidas I, Julius Caesar, Ulysses S. Grant, Napoleon Bonaparte or Dwight D. Eisenhower then they would pass both WP:NPOL and WP:MILNG.) CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:56, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Q10 and 11
[edit]- 10.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Phoenix_King.jpg/220px-Phoenix_King.jpg)
Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. [1] Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA.[2] He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.[3]
At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor.[4] In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy.[5] Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8902348/ | ? Hard to say. They could be written by the user himself or someone else. | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.bafta.org/wales | ![]() |
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? The source didn't pull up a single article so I can't tell | ✘ No |
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-d-98111a125 | ![]() |
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? I can't really tell about this one because the link doesn't work. | ✘ No |
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Jordan-David/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "Jordan D. Lennon". IMDb. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- ^ "BAFTA Cymru". www.bafta.org. 2014-06-16. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- ^ Lennon, Jordan. "LinkedIn Account". LinkedIn.
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(help) - ^ "Jordan David - 2 Character Images". Behind The Voice Actors. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "BFI Film Academy". Tape Community Music & Film. 2016-08-24. Retrieved 2019-01-21.
- * this does not qualify reliable source as it does not considered third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, reliable editorial judgment where by all majority and significant minority views are present and pursuant to the verifiability policy. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
- 11. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
This article does not meet the general notability guideline because the sources are not independent, reliable, and/or have significant coverage. I couldn't find the SSN guideline that it fails.
. Good. Subject indeed does not meet any notability guidelines nor the sources are acceptable as per Content Policy requirements. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:56, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Q12 and 13
[edit]- 12.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Hingis_RG16_%2810%29_%2827331857371%29.jpg/220px-Hingis_RG16_%2810%29_%2827331857371%29.jpg)
Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player.[1] She won five Grand Slam singles titles.[2] Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000.[3] She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships,[4] which led to a two-year suspension from the sport.[5]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.instagram.com/martinahingis80/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.latimes.com/sports/more/la-sp-us-open-hingis-20170910-story.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com.my/books?id=4x3fQ920EUMC&pg=PA197&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/21171438/tennis-another-twist-bizarre-career-martina-hingis | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/nov/01/tennis | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ "Martina Hingis (@martinahingis80) • Instagram photos and videos". www.instagram.com. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ "Martina Hingis wins her 25th Grand Slam championship, the women's doubles crown at the U.S. Open". Los Angeles Times. 2017-09-11. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ Paul Fein (30 January 2003). Tennis Confidential: Today's Greatest Players, Matches, and Controversies. Potomac Books, Inc. pp. 197–. ISBN 978-1-57488-526-2.
- ^ "Done again? Why Martina Hingis decided to retire for a third time". ESPN.com. 2017-10-26. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- ^ Staff; agencies (2007-11-01). "Tennis: Martina Hingis retires amid cocaine controversy". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2019-10-11.
- * see row 3 - added URL. Kindly answer.
- * Well done! CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:03, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- 13. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
Answer: She meets criteria 3 because she won Grand Slam titles.
- Which SSN criteria 3 were you referring to?
- WP:NTENNIS
Full content from the article Martina Hingis would pass all the WP:NTENNIS criteria. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
Q14 and 15
[edit]- 14.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Wrightfallingwater.jpg/220px-Wrightfallingwater.jpg)
Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan.[1][2] Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture."[3] This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.[4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://nypost.com/2017/06/07/frank-lloyd-wright-was-a-house-builder-and-homewrecker/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://franklloydwright.org/work/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://web.archive.org/web/20080302053743/http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jul2004/nf20040728_3153_db078.htm | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=KSA1HTTU-eMC | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
References
- ^ Hoffman, Barbara (2017-06-07). "Famed architect Frank Lloyd Wright had a dark side". New York Post. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "Frank Lloyd Wright's Work". Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation. Retrieved 2019-10-04.
- ^ "BW Online | July 28, 2004 | Frank Lloyd Wright: America's Architect". web.archive.org. 2008-03-02. Retrieved 2019-10-22.
- ^ Robert C. Twombly (24 April 1987). Frank Lloyd Wright: His Life and His Architecture. John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0-471-85797-6.
- *Lloydwright's foundation does not qualify reliable source as it does not considered third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, reliable editorial judgment where by all majority and significant minority views are present and pursuant to the verifiability policy. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
- 15. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific Answer
- notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.
They meet criteria 3 in WP:ARCHITECT because they played a major role in creating architecture.
Full content from the article of Frank Lloyd Wright, he would pass all the all (1-4) WP:ARCHITECT criteria. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:03, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity} Good day. See Assignment 2 above. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:12, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Can you check to see if I did question 8 correctly? The questions seem to be hard. Interstellarity (talk) 23:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity}, The way you place the info is correct; however, a few of the answers are not. Do read WP:RS again. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 23:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, I'm trying to figure out whether these news sources are reliable. I've read WP:NEWSORG, but I find it confusing. Can you help me determine whether these sources are reliable? I've also looked at WP:RSP and that helped me answer some of the questions. Interstellarity (talk) 00:07, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity}, See above. Do note, there are at times it is hard to determined if a source is reliable. At times as such, we could post a question at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard, a consensus might not achieve at times and consensus can change based on recent discussions of new evidence. It is not all black or white all the times. Once you have finished the rest of the exercises, then ping me. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, I don't know if I did some of this correctly, but I tried. Interstellarity (talk) 18:55, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, See comment above and kindly answer Q12 & Q13 again. Let me know if you any questions prior I post the next assignment. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:56, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, On Q12, the URL works, I got this message "You have either reached a page that is unavailable for viewing or reached your viewing limit for this book." Interstellarity (talk) 10:49, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Just checked and I would view the page - try again. https://books.google.com.my/books?id=4x3fQ920EUMC&pg=PA197&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:57, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, Thank you, it works. I will ping you again once I have done the assignment. Interstellarity (talk) 10:59, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, All set. Interstellarity (talk) 22:18, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Good day. See comment on Q12, Q13 and Q15. Let me know if you have any "sources" questions and kindly list them down before if any. See below for the next assignment. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:03, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, All set. Interstellarity (talk) 14:15, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Source - Notes
- If the source is from a book (Google book) - example - https://books.google.com.my/books?id=ulDBAgAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Snowden&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDqp2VpMPlAhWE6XMBHcMsC08Q6AEIMTAB#v=onepage&q=Snowden&f=false. We could past the URL into "Reftag" (citation tool for Google book) and it will tidy up the ref and it will provide this (see in source mode and the talk-reflist below.[1]
- If the subject is notable but only provide a source either is independent or not and you know where to locate multiple independent, reliable sources, then please lend a hand to search for the sources and place them in the article and mark review. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:44, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Luke Harding (3 February 2014). The Snowden Files: The Inside Story of the World's Most Wanted Man. Guardian Faber Publishing. ISBN 978-1-78335-036-0.
Content Policy
[edit]Article titles
[edit]- Please read WP:TITLE and answer the questions below
- 1. Article name "Hannibal Barca" - Does the article name need to be change? and Why? (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Hannibal Barca was a Carthaginian general and statesman who is widely considered one of the greatest military commanders in history. His father, Hamilcar Barca, was a leading Carthaginian commander during the First Punic War (264–241 BC).[1][2][3]
References
- ^ Eve MacDonald (24 February 2015). Hannibal: A Hellenistic Life. Yale University Press. pp. 48–. ISBN 978-0-300-21015-6.
- ^ John Whitaker; Hannibal (1794). The course of Hannibal over the Alps ascertained. John Stockdale, Piccadilly. pp. 1–.
- ^ Patrick N Hunt (11 July 2017). Hannibal. Simon & Schuster. pp. 214–. ISBN 978-1-4391-0977-9.
Answer: This title needs to be changed to Hannibal. This is based on the naming criteria for WP:CONCISE. We should try to keep article titles short whenever possible. For example, we could title the article on Donald Trump to be Donald John Trump, but that would be too long of an article title, so we shorten it to Donald Trump.
. Please read WP:TITLE and answer the question again. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: The title needs to be changed to Hannibal. This is the name is most common in reliable sources.
. Very well. Even though his name is Hannibal Barca, the article title is just taken his first name "Hannibal" as it is most common name which many sources have addressed him - We often heard the phrase "Hannibal Brought Rome To Its Knees"[1][2][3]. This also apply to subjects known by they nick names - such as professional wrestler CM Punk, whose real name is Phillip Jack Brooks, Roman emperor Caligula whose name is Gaius Caesar or a special way of addressing a subject such as Alexander the Great and not "just Alexander" or "Alexander III of Macedon". CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: The title needs to be changed to Hannibal. This is the name is most common in reliable sources.
References
- ^ Plessis, Paul J. du (2015). Borkowski's Textbook on Roman Law. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780198736226.
- ^ "Hannibal Barca – How One Black Man Brought Rome To Its Knees". The Pan-African Alliance. 2019-04-02. Retrieved 2019-10-25.
- ^ "Hannibal". Ancient History Encyclopedia. Retrieved 2019-10-25.
- 2. Article name "Magic Johnson". Does the article name need to be change? and Why?(please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr. (born August 14, 1959) is an American retired professional basketball player and former president of basketball operations of the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association (NBA). He played point guard for the Lakers for 13 seasons.[1][2][3][4]
References
- ^ Roselius, J. Chris. (2011). Magic Johnson : basketball star & entrepreneur. Edina, Minn.: ABDO Pub. Co. ISBN 9781617147562. OCLC 663953248.
- ^ "Magic Johnson | Biography & Facts". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ Stein, Marc; Deb, Sopan (2019-04-11). "Magic Johnson Always Set His Sights Beyond Basketball". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "Magic Johnson: Michael Jordan said Stephen Curry not Hall of Famer in fear of tampering fine". sports.yahoo.com. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
Answer: The article title does not need to be changed. It is the most commonly recognizable name of this person per WP:COMMONNAME.
. Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Biographies of living persons
[edit]- Please read WP:BLP and answer the questions below.
- 3. As per the texts below, pls explain the if the content is acceptable of inclusive and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Conor Anthony McGregor (born 14 July 1988) is an Irish professional mixed martial artist and boxer. His is a former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) featherweight and lightweight champion.[1]
On 15 August 2019, TMZ Sports published a video that appeared to show McGregor punching a man at The Marble Arch Pub in Dublin.[2] The incident happened on 6 April and was originally reported by Irish media, although without the video that showed the attack. Irish police stated in April that they had opened an investigation.[3] McGregor was charged with assault and first appeared in court on 11 October 2019.[4][5][6]
In April 2019, McGregor is the father of Terri Murray's son, Clodagh. Murray bedded McGregor in 2017 at his hotel after the Aintree Grand National just four weeks bofore McGregor's girlfriend Dee Devlin gave birth to their son.
References
- ^ "The most surprising stories behind Conor McGregor's incredible success". IrishCentral. 13 December 2016. Retrieved 3 September 2017.
- ^ "Video of Conor McGregor Punching Old Man in Head in Whiskey Dispute". TMZ. Retrieved 2019-08-22.
- ^ Gaydos, Ryan (2019-08-15). "Conor McGregor seen on video punching bar patron in face over whiskey". Fox News. Retrieved 2019-08-22.
- ^ "Conor McGregor charged with pub assault, to appear in Dublin court next week". RT International. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "UFC: McGregor charged with assault for punching elderly man". South China Morning Post. 2019-10-05. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
- ^ "McGregor appears in court in assault case". ESPN.com. 2019-10-11. Retrieved 2019-10-23.
Answer: No, it talks about an incident that happened in an Irish pub. It does not cite a reliable source per WP:BLPRS.
. Please read the above info provided and WP:BLP and answer the question again. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: The content in the last paragraph isn't acceptable because there are no reliable sources to support it.
- {{tick} Right. The pub incident have been well-sourced and he is charged, but only not reputable sources have mentioned about the Murray case and the content above was unsourced and is contentious material. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: The content in the last paragraph isn't acceptable because there are no reliable sources to support it.
- 4. As per the texts below, pls explain the if the content is acceptable of inclusive and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Diana Nyad (née Sneed; born August 22, 1949) is an American author, journalist, motivational speaker, and long-distance swimmer who lives in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C. and could be contacted at +0-202-456-6213.[1] Nyad gained national attention in 1975 when she swam around Manhattan (28 mi or 45 km) and in 1979 when she swam from North Bimini, The Bahamas, to Juno Beach, Florida (102 mi (164 km)). In 2013, on her fifth attempt and at age 64, she became the first person confirmed to swim from Cuba to Florida without the aid of a shark cage, swimming from Havana to Key West (110 mi or 180 km).[2]
References
- ^ Anne-Marie Garcia (September 2, 2013). "Diana Nyad completes Cuba-Florida swim". USA Today.
- ^ Alvarez, Lizette (September 2, 2013). "Nyad Completes Cuba-to-Florida Swim". The New York Times.
Answer: No, per WP:BLPPRIVACY articles should not have phone numbers.
also it should not have addresses. By the way, the address and tel belong to the White House. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Images copyright
[edit]- Please read Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Public domain image resources. Please answer the questions below and (1) with explanation based on Wikipedia guidelines and (2) provide the guidelines/links in your answer.
- 5. Could this image-1 be uploaded in C:Main Page and use in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation: Yes, this image is in the public domain because it is a work of the US government and not eligible for copyright therefore can be used in Commons and Wikipedia.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer - link/guideline: Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Public_domain
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- 6. Could this image-2 be uploaded in C:Main Page and use in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation: Yes, to the right of the image, there is licensing information. It is in the public domain and therefore be used in Commons and Wikipedia.
. We also check the original site that the image is in PD (public domain). If we
click on the flickr link provided on the rigth of the image it will take your to [3] where it was uploaded by the owner and stated PD there. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer - link/guideline: Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Free_licenses
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- 7. Could this image-3 be uploaded in C:Main Page and use in Wikipedia?
Answer- Explanation: Yes, this image is obviously uploaded to commons. When I go to the source, there is licensing info on the image.
. Again we need to check the original source as not all the images are free use claimed by the editor who uploaded the images that the images were taken by them and agree to released the right or the upload the photo is a PD. If we follow the link (source) from Wikimdeia here - Pixabay and it is stated "Free for commercial use" and also on Wikimedia it is verify by reviewer.
Answer - link/guideline: Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Free_licenses
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- 8. Could this image-4 be uploaded in C:Main Page and use in Wikipedia? and Why.
Answer- Explanation: No, this is probably a non-free image. It doesn't provide licensing info and may or may qualify for fair use.
. One way we could check it to download the image to our computer and use Tineye] where you might able to find some reverse images on the internet. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer - link/guideline:Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Fair-use/Non-free_images
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Neutral point of view
[edit]P;lease read WP:NPOV and MOS:PUFF. Point out the WP:NPOV words/pharses and rewrite the paragraph on Question 9& 10 from a neutral point of view.
- 9. She is a brilliant boxer with a rare and exceptional beauty. She turned Pro at the age of 19 after winning one amateur fight on December 14, 2013 where she destroyed her opponent in 20 seconds. Her talent and marketability made her a fighter to watch right out the gate and she fought under XXX promotion on her next fight on February 2014.
Answer: She is a boxer who according to XXX is considered "brilliant with rare and exceptional beauty." At the age of 19, she won one amateur flight on December 14, 2013. The fight lasted 20 seconds. According to XXX, "Her talent and marketability made her a fighter to watch right out the gate and she fought under XXX promotion on her next fight on February 2014."
. Statement of how she looks or wheather she is marketable was not made by XXX promotion. Even the info above is unsouced we still could make it more NPOV. Try again please. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: She is a boxer who turned Pro at the age of 19 after winning one flight on December 14, 2013. The fight lasted only 20 seconds.
. Right. We could add after 20 seconds (remove the adverbial word "only" and not stray the readers' emotions when reading the text) "she join XXX promotion after after that" or better still just state " She won the fight". CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: She is a boxer who turned Pro at the age of 19 after winning one flight on December 14, 2013. The fight lasted only 20 seconds.
- 10. He is a popular, acclaimed Bulgarian actor, who loves by all who have watched his films. He was born in Veliko Tarnovo and started working in the film industry since he was at the tender, innocent of the age of 14 and he has featured in 44 films.
Answer: He is a Bulgarian actor. He was born in Veliko Tarnovo and started working in the film industry since he was of the age of 14, and he has featured in 44 films.
. Very well. Took out the MOS:PUFF words. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- 11. Please read WP:DUE and in your own words, please explain why it is important to provide balance and due weight content in an article.
Answer: It is important to provide balance and due weight content in an article because articles must represent all points of view in reliable sources. Take the article Capital punishment for example, there are people who want to abolish it while others want to retain it. The article must document all sides of the debate so that all sides can be represented in the article.
Very good example provided - a balance and due weight in mainstream views presented. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
No original research
[edit]- 12. In your own words, why Wikipedia is not a platform to publish original research?
Answer: Wikipedia is not a platform to publish original research because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and encyclopedias are based on reliable secondary sources. If we included original research that is not cited, then Wikipedia would have information that is not cited by reliable sources.
Not only need to cited by reliable sources but it also need to be independent from the subject. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- 13 a. In your own words, please provide two examples with explanation from your own words if a short phrases from original research or an opinion to be inserted in an article.
Answers Example 1: Constitution of the United States: It is OK to put phrases from the constitution in the article. This is because this is in the public domain.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Answers Example 2: News articles: news articles are copyrighted which means that they should be copied word for word, but they should be paraphrased or summarized. Summarizing original research would be OK to do.
.
- Additional question (Q 13b) See this video and write the content in the in an article.
- Answer: According to Islamic tradition, the clothing must be loose-fitting and be opaque for both men and women. The clothing also has to be unattractive.
. The clip is not from the Islamic text/bible but from Sh. Shady Alsuleiman - another word it is a quote. What we could do (1) Sh. Shady Alsuleiman stated that "xxxxxxxxx (direct quote from the clip". We could (2) pls in a quote and provide the source. see below
“ | Islam demands Islam commands us with our with regards of our clothing for both men and women, our clothing must be first of all baggy, so must be loose with a men or women. It must non see-through whether men or women. It must non colorful attractive that means when someone walks everyone's looking at them.[1] | ” |
References
- ^ Is it allowed for women to wear jeans and trousers? - Q&A - Sh. Shady Alsuleiman, retrieved 2019-10-25
Verifiability
[edit]- Please read WP:V and answer the questions below
- 14. In your own words, why content in Wikipedia need to be verified?
Answer: Same as Q4 in the heading Sources.
- Pls answer in full sentences. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: Content needs to verified because we want to make sure that our content comes from a reliable source. If there was no policy on this, then Wikipedia would be a place where anyone can post whatever they want (like social media).
. The key word is "verify". CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- 15. If the subject has two sons and it is supported by three independent, reliable sources but in reality he has 3 sons. Could we change the content from "2" sons to "3 sons"? and why?
Answer: We should not change that. Wikipedia is based on what reliable sources say is true. If sources say the subject has 2 sons, but in reality he has 3 sons, we should go with what sources say. However, if sources update their content to say he has 3 sons, then it would fine to change that.
. Wikipedia is NOT about the true, but about what is able to be verifiable by independent, reliable source. - See WP:But it's true. We correct the content when the source corrected itself (same source or other sources).
- Interstellarity See assignment 3 above and ping me when you have finished the assignment. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:57, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, It's
Already done. Would you mind checking my work. Interstellarity (talk) 15:03, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, It's
- Interstellarity, Hi see the comment above and please answer Q 1, 3, 9 and 13b again and ping me when you are done. Also if you have any questions, please let me know.Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, I have two questions. The first question is why are you asking me to answer question 1 again? The second question is what's the difference between Q4 in Part 2 and Q14 in Part 3? Interstellarity (talk) 11:23, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, I asked you to answer Assignment 1 Q1 is because your previous answer is incorrect and I would like you to revisit the related page and see if you would find out the answer. The is no diff between Assignment 2 Q4 and Assignment 3 Q14 - I asked the questions again so I may know certain important comment which I had made and you have take noticed. btw, you have yet to answer Assignment 3 Q1 and Q14. I will post next assignment 4 "CSD" once you have ping me when you have done answering the questions above. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:42, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, I have answered those 2 questions. Interstellarity (talk) 12:02, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, Thank you. Pls see comment on Q 1, 3, 9, 13b and 14. Let me know if you have questions. I will post the next assignment tmr. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, This all seems clear to me. I have a question. When you say "I will post the next assignment tmr.", What does tmr mean? Interstellarity (talk) 13:30, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, My apologies. tmr = tomorrow.
CASSIOPEIA(talk) 23:42, 25 October 2019 (UTC).
- Interstellarity, My apologies. tmr = tomorrow.
Filtering - Criteria for speedy deletion
[edit]PART 2
- We have looked at the requirements needed for a page to meet notable, policy and type of sources to merit a page in Wikipedia in Part 1 (Assignment 1, 2 & 3). In assignment 4, we look at what type of articles need to be filtered out from our system when reviewing a page. There are many criteria of WP:Criteria for speedy deletion. Here we discuss (1) General criteria (G1-G14), (2) Article criteria (A1-A11) and R2.
- Please do the following
- get your User:Interstellarity/CSD log refund/set up so I could review your CSD.
- Bookmark Earwig's Copyvio Detector in computer.
- Download CV-revdel and after saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes - see instruction at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache.
General criteria
[edit]- 1. Please (G1-G14) at General and answer the following questions in your own words.
No | Criterion | Application | Comment by Cass |
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1 | G1 | This is for pages that contain gibberish and text that is not easy to comprehend. | ![]() |
2 | G2 | This is for pages that were created during editing tests. | ![]() |
3 | G3 | This is for pages that there created to vandalize Wikipedia and also applies to hoaxes that were created. | ![]() |
4 | G4 | This is for pages that were deleted during a deletion discussion that were recreated. | ![]() |
5 | G5 | This is for pages that created by banned and blocked users while they are banned or blocked from editing Wikipedia. For example, I was blocked for vandalism in 2013. If I created any page on Wikipedia, G5 would apply. I got unblocked in 2019, and now any pages I create now do not apply as G5. | ![]() |
6 | G6 | This is for pages that need to be deleted for technical reasons. | ![]() |
7 | G7 | This is for pages where the page creator has requested deletion of the page. | ![]() |
8 | G8 | This is for pages that don't have a subject page such as talk pages where the subject page has been deleted. | ![]() |
9 | G9 | This is for pages that the Wikimedia Foundation can delete for any reason. | ![]() |
10 | G10 | This is for pages that attack other editors. | ![]() |
11 | G11 | This is for pages that are advertising and promotional. | ![]() |
12 | G12 | This is for pages that were copied and pasted from a website that is copyrighted. | ![]() |
13 | G13 | This is for drafts that have been unedited for six months. | ![]()
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14 | G14 | This is for disambiguation pages that are not needed for any reason. | ![]() |
Article and R2 criteria
[edit]- 1. Please (A1-G11) criteria at WP:CSD#List of criteria and answer the following questions in your own words.
No | Criterion | Application | Comment by Cass |
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1 | A1 | Articles that don't identify the subject of the article. | ![]() |
2 | A2 | Articles that are not written in English that exist outside of the English Wikipedia. | ![]() |
3 | A3 | Articles that don't have content in the article. Blank pages are an example. | ![]() |
4 | A4 | Same as A3. | ![]() |
5 | A5 | Articles that have been imported in another wiki. | ![]() |
6 | A6 | Same as G10. | ![]() |
7 | A7 | Articles that don't explain why the subject is important. | ![]() |
8 | A8 | Same as G12. | ![]() |
9 | A9 | Articles about musical recordings that don't explain why the subject is important. | ![]() |
10 | A10 | Articles that were recently created that are about the same content as an existing Wikipedia article. | ![]() |
11 | A11 | Articles where the subject was invented and does not explain why it is important. | ![]() |
12 | R2 | Redirects that redirect from one namespace to another. | ![]() |
- 3. Pls read WP:PROMOTION and WP:G11 and provide 5 successful CSD 11 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol or Article for Creation section). Pls provide the article names and I will check them at your CSD log.
Answer i:
- Johnbosco Onunkwo.
- Not considered promo page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- User:Javedk823.
well-done - missuses of we host/adverting. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer ii: Moon Jeong-won not a G11 but a A7. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iii:
- Zapp Scooters Limited.
not a G11, unsourced info can be removed. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- User:Rohitmc6/sandbox.
well-done - missuses of we host/adverting. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iv: Draft:Davoud Ghaffari. . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer v: Draft:Junga Song. Missuses of we host/adverting. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Pls read WP:COPYVIO, WP:REVDEL, WP:COPYPASTE, WP:DCM and WP:G12 and answer the questions below.
- 3. When do we nominated a page for WP:G12 and when do we WP:REVDEL the COPYVIO text?
- Answer: We nominate a page for G12 when are no revisions that don't contain the copyvio.
- Answer: We revdel when there is non-infringing text worth saving.
. Pls read WP:REVDEL and answer again.
- Answer again: Revision deletion is used for removing copyrighted text from public view. The criteria for redaction (WP:CRD) explains when revision deletion may and may not to used. It is used for revisions that do not contain attribution to the copyrighted text. If there is attribution, revdel cannot be used.
When answering any questions, pls write the info in your own words instead of refer to XXX such as your respond above "The criteria for redaction (WP:CRD) explains when revision deletion may and may not to used."
- 4. What constitute copyright infringement/violation.
Answer: Copying material without permission from the copyright holder.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 5. Why some of the texts found in an article are identical as per its sources and yet they are not considered copyright violation? Please provide three examples.
Answer i: When the text is in the public domain.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer ii: When the text is under certain Creative Commons licenses.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iii: When the text is under GFDL and CC license.
. Note: If the content is a direct quote and provide source for verification. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 6. Why copyright violation needs to be stamped out from Wikipedia and who determined when a violation is lawfully taking place?
Answer: So Wikipedia doesn't get sued for copyright violations.
.copyright infringement violation intails legal implication. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 7. Pls read WP:COPYVIO, WP:REVDEL, WP:COPYPASTE, WP:DCM and WP:G12 and provide 5 successful CSD 12 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol or Article for Creation section). Pls provide the article names and I will check them at your CSD log. You can use Earwig's Copyvio Detector tool to check if an article is in violation of COPYVIO.
Answer i: Draft:اهمية السلام. . Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer ii: Island Home (anthem). Released under a CC-BY license. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iii: AVX Aircraft. . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iv: Shooting of Quintonio LeGrier and Bettie Jones. . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer v: The Nibroc Trilogy. . It is a quote. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 8. Pls provide 5 successful CSD in any criteria except WP:G11, WP:G12 and WP:G13 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol "ONLY"). Pls provide the article names and I will check them at your CSD log.
Answer i: Rai Bhoi. . G7. 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer ii: Draft:The lonergan curse. . G3. Good work. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iii: Draft:Katie Harper. . G3. Good work. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iv: Draft:Foreign Lands By R.L. Stevenson. . G3. Good work. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer v: Draft:The finn of time. G2. . CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 9. Pls read WP:R2 and WP:NPPDRAFT. Please explain when to a new page can nominated CSD R2 and what should be considered when doing such move?
Answer: A new page that has been moved to draft where the mainspace article redirects to the draft article. I should consider the time the article was created before moving to draft.
a new page that is moved to draft. But the reason is incorrect. Pls read WP:NPPDRAFT and WP:DRAFTIFY and answer again.
- Answer again: We move articles to the draftspace to allow articles to be developed before moving them to the mainspace. We may move articles to draftspace if the article meets our notability standards, but the article is still in its infancy. This is so drafts can get worked on and less likely to be deleted.
If a article is not notable, no amount of editing can make the subject notable. For such whether it is moved to draft of not has not relevant as it will be declined or rejected.
- 10. Pls read and A1-A11 and R2 at WP:CSD and and provide 5 successful "Article CSD" articles (with at least two of them are CSD A7) you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol "ONLY"). Pls provide the article names and I will check them at your CSD log.
Answer i CSD A7: Special Hillsides Preservation District. A7 Subject does indicate why its subject is important or significant. See Wikipedia:Credible claim of significance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer ii CSD A7: Second Manohar Lal Khattar ministry. A7 Subject does indicate why its subject is important or significant. See Wikipedia:Credible claim of significance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iii CSD R2: Grain line. Good job. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer iv CSD R2: Bordikar Meghana Deepak Sakore. Athought admin moved the page as per nomination. The article did have source. Do not request a R2 unless the source is primary. Example a footballer page has only Soccerway or their club website for source. Use R2 sparingly as they are other options. In addition, if any article do pass notability and do follow the the subject well (such as I know and follow mixed martial arts), or know where to get the independent, reliable sources, then find the 3 sources and add them in the page and check as review. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer v any criteria: যোগব্রত চক্রবর্তী. A7. (Note do indicate which criteria when answer). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Copyright violation and paid editors
[edit]- 11. How do we spot a COI/PAID editor?
Answer: If an editor is writing about himself/herself or writing about a company that they work for.
- But now do we spot that?
- Answer again: I would like to answer this one by giving you an example. I am an active contributor to the Teahouse. I can tell there is a conflict of interest if someone says that they work for a particular place or someone might state they have a direct connection with the subject such as family, friends, professionally. I am not quite sure about how to spot a paid editor. I have read WP:PAID, but it doesn't specifically say how to spot them.
Self-disclosure by COI/PAID editors is one of the many ways we find out that they are COI/PAID. The different between a COI say an COI editor write about themselves, or friends is that written prose is not that perfect as compared that to a professional writers' (PAID editor). Secondly, if the article is about a company, the prose of the article is written more like a businesslike (business writing). Thirdly, professional paid editor would provide neat citations and only take one or 2 edits to create the article. In addition, professional PAID editors would create multiple different companies article that normal COI editors would not. Do note PAID is a subset of COI and an COI would also a PAID editor such as a small business owner write about their company or a rapper write about their own article in Wikipedia. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:44, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- 12. What you should do when you review an NPP article and notice the creator is a COI editor?
Answer: Report to WP:COIN. Add Uw-coi to their talk page.
. and tag COI on the page via twinkle. Some admin would agree (some dont) that page to move the page to draft space regardless how many edits and how many pages the editors have been created. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- 13. Please read WP:PAID. What you should do when you review an NPP article and notice the creator is a paid editor?
Answer: Report to WP:ANI or WP:COIN. Add Uw-paid to their talk page.
. and tag COI on the page via twinkle. Move the page to draft space regardless how many edits and how many pages the editors have been created. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity. Greetings. Please see assignment 4 above. Please take be careful when you nominated articles for CSD as one of the criteria for NPPSCHOOL is to use the Speedy Deletion criteria with at least 90% accuracy. Leave the article alone if you are not sure if it is qualify a CSD. Your CSD log will show the page which you have nominated. For NPP new pages, pls do not tag CSD for the draft is less than 2 hours old for the page might still under construction. You can nominate Draft pages but you cant review the draft article if you are not one of the AfC reviewers. Take your time to do this assignment. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:40, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA. Is there a user script that finds articles that have copyright problems, not check a certain article for copyright violations? Interstellarity (talk) 15:22, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity.
Not that I know of. As far as I know, we, the reviewers use Earwig's Copyvio Detector. The link is on Q7. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:40, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity.
- Interstellarity. I found the script for The Earwig Covpyvio Detector - see Here. The icon/link (copyvio check) is shown on the left side bar.03:10, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity. Q12 & Q13 - Need to provide info on how to communicate the COI to the creator, and need to like the article (Ithink your forgot to nest the article name with double brackets. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:19, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA. I need help finding G11s. Most of the articles I tagged were declined. Can you provide an example of what an article would look like? Am I allowed to tag user pages for deletion? Interstellarity (talk) 18:26, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA. Pls provide all the G11 which you have tagged that have declined so I may help. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA. You actually pinged yourself in the above comment. I have provided failed G11s and G12s. It is also in my CSD log. Also, DESiegel gave me some guidance on my talk page about identifying G11s and G12s. Interstellarity (talk) 11:11, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA. Pls provide all the G11 which you have tagged that have declined so I may help. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA. I need help finding G11s. Most of the articles I tagged were declined. Can you provide an example of what an article would look like? Am I allowed to tag user pages for deletion? Interstellarity (talk) 18:26, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity. Q12 & Q13 - Need to provide info on how to communicate the COI to the creator, and need to like the article (Ithink your forgot to nest the article name with double brackets. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:19, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @DESiegel: Thank you for assistance. Hi Interstellarity. Could you please tell me when you nominated those article for G11, what were the reasons/justification to do so. I am trying to understand your reason, so I would advise further besides what have been given to you by DES (the info has been given to you by links as reading material when I posted the assignment - kindly re-read them). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:56, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I thought when I read the links when you gave me, I thought the articles looked promotional. I'm sorry for not doing this assignment correctly. Interstellarity (talk) 13:11, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- @DESiegel: Thank you for assistance. Hi Interstellarity. Could you please tell me when you nominated those article for G11, what were the reasons/justification to do so. I am trying to understand your reason, so I would advise further besides what have been given to you by DES (the info has been given to you by links as reading material when I posted the assignment - kindly re-read them). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:56, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity.To me, this -Draft:Davoud Ghaffari - would be the example of G11 - try and tag it. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:35, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: How about this one? Draft:Dhammachari Anand Shakya Interstellarity (talk) 15:42, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Draft:Dhammachari Anand Shakya - subtle but I would think so. Just let you know has been recreated. It is ok to make mistakes, we all do, including I, just learn from it. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:20, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Hi, Do not remove the CSD nomination as they are all in your CSD log and there to stay. Check for "original source" copyright disclaimer and nominate with care. If in doubt, leave them for other more experience editors to decide. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:57, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Am I done with the assignment? If so, can you check my work? Also, how many assignments do I have left? Interstellarity (talk) 20:09, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity see below above and please answer again - Q9 and Q11. Se below for further commands.
- 1.Promo - Have commented on the previous message- see the bottom of the page
- 2.copyvio - do take note of PD, free licence (Released under a CC-BY license) from "original source", and if the text is sourced as "direct quote".
- 3.A7 - Credible claim of significance - If the subject content do have such claim, then it is not a A7 even the article at the stage is not notable. Choose other method. (1) after a WP:BEFORE and found no independent reliable sources to support the notability requirements, then nominated for WP:AFD, or R2 to draft space if no sources are provided. If it is a WP:BLP without source, then WP:BLPPROD or R2. There are other alternatives which we will discuss on the next assignment.
- Just like CVUA, there are about 4 more assignments left. Some are easier and some are harder. There are total 3 parts.
- Let me know if you have any further questions and I will answer them once you have answer Q9 and Q11. Ping me when you have done. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Not sure about paid editing. Can you help me? Interstellarity (talk) 18:36, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Let me know if you have any further questions and I will answer them once you have answer Q9 and Q11. Ping me when you have done. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity See comment on Q3, Q9, and Q11. I left a note at the bottom of "Assignment 2 - source" and kindly read it. I also leave a few point on how to "spot COI/PAID at the bottom of this assignment. By the way, please write the info/explanation/answer in your own words instead of "according to / refer to xxxx links). This assignment and next assignment is related and they are a little complicated compared to the other assignment for it is not that straight forward. Do understand that Wikipedia have many guidelines, but some of the issues we face would need our "judgmental call" for such, when we apply certain actions/guidelines, we need to have good justification/reason/analyses/explanation from different point of views and in different level. To review a page take a lot of understanding of Wikipedia guidelines and info and it also take a lot of time. Same as you take time to read the reading material and same for me to write out the assignment and reviewing your answers. However, once you have completed this program, I assure you that you will feel more equip to review article in Wikipedia. As the saying go, you reap what you sow. Let me know if have any questions or you are reading to move on to next assignment. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:44, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Alright, I understand I will answer my questions in my own words rather than providing links to guidelines in my answer. Also, I notice that you don't seem to read your sentences before you save them to see if they make sense. I find that when reading your responses to my answers, it can be hard to tell exactly what you're saying. Please make sure that you proofread your sentences before saving your edits. Other than that, I am ready for the next assignment. Interstellarity (talk) 21:59, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity thanks for informing. Which remarks I have made that you dont understand? by the way, do note the "spot the COI/PAID" notes below do not mean that the editors involved are a COI/PAID editors but the they are some common 'traits" of COI/PAID editors. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:48, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: For example, while I do understand your response to answer to spotting a COI/PAID, when you say The different between a COI say an COI editor write about themselves, or friends is that written prose is not that perfect as compared that to a professional writers' (PAID editor)., it should be The difference between a COI say an COI editor is when they write about themselves, or friends is that written prose is not that perfect as compared that to a professional writers' (PAID editor).. I'm not sure if this is what you meant to write, but I tried my best to understand what you are saying. Interstellarity (talk) 10:44, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity I see, I missed out the "that of" actually. 11:31, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Interstellarity See below further explanation on G11 (promo) and G12 (copyvio).
G11 (promo) - What constitute a G11? At times it is hard to define. Although if a article is blantly promote or adverstise about the subject then it is a G11. Sometimes, the it is a little subtle and that would be a judgement call. As a rule of thumb, if article about an entertainers (actor/singer/DJ/artist and etc) in dept of how hard they work, how motivated they are, using all the puffery/flowery languagues and especially the subject does not meet notability guidelines. For a corporation, we would see they list down all they product/services, their directors/key person in the company, they mission, their client, they are the influencer in their industrial, all the words/phrased to enhance/market the company and no substantial info that is supported by independent reliable sources. If you look at the this version of Zapp Scooters which you tagged G11, I have to agree with the editor who removed the tag that it is not a G11 and unsourced info can be removed.
G12 (copyvio) -
Copyright violation addresses the use of original expression without permission of the holder which is a violation of laws even the credit is given to the source. For articles, the Copyright Law gives the copyright protection to the “original works of authorship fixed in in a tangible medium of expression” in the newspaper, magazine and freelance article at the moment of their creation, for the life of the creator plus 70 years after, and 95 years for corporation publication or 120 years from date of creation, whichever is shorter.
A “fact” is not considered an original work of authorship; but how the ways facts are recorded where the style of the writing, choice and/or arrangement of words are copyrightable. An infringement of copyright is committed when a person uses the “exact words /almost exact words in a consecutive manner” of the author/holder. To note, as a guideline, a few words copies from the original works and an idea of expression such as "weather the storm", 'crossing the Rubicon" "as dead as a doornail" and etc. proper nouns, document/event/treaty/person/title/ names are generally acceptable and so is a direct quote of speech. However, any longer phrases which would be expression in a number of ways are copyright protected. To use one of two short sentences on a large article generally is ok but it will considered infringement if the edit entry is consists of big percentage of the original work and yet for some (such as newspaper/press/journalism that takes their work very seriously - anything more than 4 exact consecutively words would considered copyvio). To avoid copyright infringement, one needs uses his/her own words to convey the source’s information. Paraphrasing could minimise the the copyright violation; however, "threshold" ultimately, court judgement would determined the if copyright violation has been made.
Copyvio for texts or images shared the same notion that it is not a copyvio if the verbatim texts or images are taken from free licence and Public domain sites/specific page/image. I have indicated to you on Assignement 3 - section 3.3 - Q5, Q6, Q7 that always check the "original source" even if in WikiCommon the editor who upload the image claim taken from a PD site, we need to check the link provided and if the site indicate the image taken from another source, then we check the source. For texts, we need to check the sites if it is a PD, sometimes the disclaimer of PD is not on the page, but on the home page or "about" page or FAQ page. Secondly, for older article (no in NPP Feed), any copyvio texts found, we will revdel it as it is almost always it is not the first versions. If a small amount of verbatim texts found in NPP Feed articles, we would revdel them; but large amount of verbatim texts we will tag G12.
Lastly, here are a few examples where the German car maker Audi was sued for copyright breach.
1. Audi infringed copyright violation over Eminem’s song “Lose Yourself” in their commercial advertising. [4]
2. Audi was fined US $ 965,000 over copyright infringement for using 10 words from Brian Andreas’s story of “Angel of Mercy” - [5]
I think I just had a wake-up call, and it was disguised as a car, and it was screaming at me not to get too comfortable and fall asleep and miss my life. (Audi commercial) Some people don’t know that there are angels whose only job is to make sure you don’t get too comfortable & fall asleep & miss your life.(Brian Andreas’ print)
Hope the above help. Note the above doest not substitute the Wikipedia links I provided above. Please make sure you read the reading material as well. Thanks. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:20, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Spot COI / PAID
COI editors are permitted to edit Wikipedia and create on the affected articles; however, it is "HIGHLY DISCOURAGE/NOT RECOMMENDED as it is very difficult for the COI editors to write the article/input info into the affected article in [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view}}.
1.Use person pronouns and possessives (I, we, my, our) 2.Multiple references to company, financial listings, staff lists, interviews, own publication, press release, blog and with clean references 3.Well written prose 'too perfect to be true' and only with single/2 edits 4.Editors have created multiple company related articles 5.Editors disclosed their COI/PAID in their userpage (not tag with COI disclose), or disclosure when they ask question in WP:Teahouse, WP:Help Desk, WP:AFCHD or receivers' talk pages.
Filtering - Deletion policy & other alternatives
[edit]In assignment 4, we look at articles which fits in WP:Criteria for speedy deletion (CSD) where by the the articles are deleted within a few hours to 24 hours from the time of the nomination. In Assignment 5, we discuss the what actions should be taken for those articles do not fit under the CSD criteria but do not meet relevant criteria for content of the encyclopedia.
Please read WP:PROD, WP:BLPPROD, WP:MERGE, WP:DRAFTIFY, WP:NPPDRAFT and WP:REDIR, WP:AFD and answer the following questions. (Provide links and hisdiff where they are applied.)
- * This is your AfD log- pls bookmark it.
- 1. Under what circumstances do we propose deletion (PROD) a page and why do we do that?
Answer: We PROD a page when deletion of a page would be uncontroversial, but it does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- 2. What should we do before we PROD a page? and what should be considered /action during a nomination?
Answer: We must access the page to see if it there's a valid reason to delete the page. We should check to see if isn't not been vandalized recently. Then, we should check to see if the page is eligible for proposed deletion.
. We should do a WP:BEFORE to see if indepednent, relaible sources are outside the article which would
- 3. What is the criteria when nominated a BLPPROD? If we choose not to BLPPROD a page what are the alternatives? (give three examples with explanations)
Answer: The article must be a BLP and not contain sources. If we choose not to BLPPROD a page, we can CSD a page. This can be done if the article meets any of the strict criteria of CSD. We could PROD a page, I already explained that above. We could nominate the article for deletion which opens up a discussion for editors that discuss whether an article should be deleted or not.
we can either 1. BLPPROD, 2.request a R2 and move the page to draft space if the article is potential and 3. nominated AfD if the subject fails notability requirements or 4. CSD if the if the page meet CSD criteria. Here we see there are few options for a page without sources depends on the circumstances. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- 4. In what circumstances we nominate an AFD and what step should be done prior such action.
Answer: We nominate an article for deletion when an article qualifies for the criteria for deletion. Before we nominate the article, we must check to see if the article meets the deletion policy, check to see if it meets the criteria for CSD and PROD. We should see if the article can be improved through normal editing rather than deleted. If notability is a concern, we should look for sources to see if the article is notable.
One of the most important thing is to do a WP:BEFORE, especially to check any independent, reliable sources outside of the article could be found to pass the notability requirements prior nominate the article for deletion. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- 5 How long do PROD, BLPPROD and AFD last prior it is deleted or decline?
Answer: 7 days
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- 6. When a page has been previously BLPROD and was provide a source; however if you still think that article should be deleted, what can you do?
Answer: Take it to AFD
. or PROD if it is not uncontroversial and does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion or CSD if it meets CSD requirements. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer: It depends on whether people are likely to object to a deletion. For example, we PROD and BLPROD a page if it's unlikely no one would object to it. BLPROD is for BLPs. AFD is where to go when people are likely to object to deletion.
We AfD a page is not because involved editors are likely to obje to the deletion, but we AfD a page because 1. it doesnt meet the CSD criteria and 2. after a WP:BEFORE, we could not able to establish the subject fails the notability/SSN requirements for discussion for the deletion of the page be taken place. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- 8. What are the reason to WP:Merge a page to another page?
Answer: If a page has the same exact content as another page, when there is an overlap between pages on related subjects, if a page is very short where it can be merged into a broader topic, and if an article requires background material for readers to understand it.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- 9. List 10 reasons we purpose WP:REDIR.
Answer:
- Alternative names
- Plurals
- Punctuation issues
- Adjectives and adverbs pointing to noun forms
- Alternative spellings
- Misspellings
- Alternative capitalizations
- Shortcuts
- Camel case
- Abbreviations
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- 10. When article can be moved to draft space?
Answer: This is for articles that can be worked on when deletion would not be appropriate for the article.
. We only move the page to draft space if no sources or one/two primary or not independence sources in the article "and" the subject is potentially notable, so the creator would work on the page. If you choose to find the sources for the article and it meets the notability guidelines, then you would mark the page as review after the sources are added into the page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- 11. Nominate 5 articles for WP:AFD by using WP:Twinkle and provide explanation of your nomination.
Answer 1: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarika Bahroliya - not notable and fails WP:ENT
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer 2: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Refugee 87 - not notable (fails Wikipedia:NBOOK and no reliable references
. Always do a WP:BEFORE (check on web site thoroughly prior decide a AfD is suitable). If you are not sure, leave the article in the mainspace and let other more experience editors to decide. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer 3: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vilmos Tátrai - no reliable sources and not notable (fails WP:NMUSIC)
. For subject which the sources would most like could be found in their native languages which you do not familiar with, leave the article and dont AfD it. Secondly, dont R2 or AfD until the article has been in the system more more than 3 hours, as editor might still working on the draft. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer 4: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jain Culture Center of Antwerp - No reliable sources can be found
was vote as redirect. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer 5: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Archive.ph - Here, the creator of the article made a mistake by not redirecting it anywhere and I asked for this to be deleted.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- 12. Participate in 5 WP:AFD where by you are the first voter of the discussion. Please provide you reason either to delete, keep, redirect or merge.
Answer i: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Motormaster (2nd nomination)
. You voted keep but the result was a delete. Cant see the article now, so no further comment but would refer to other voter and admin decision. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer ii: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alternative explanations of the "grandmother" cell
Cant see the article now, so no further comment but would refer to other voter and admin decision. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer iii: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Gilly
for academic - many times they would not be found in normal independent, reliable sources so the criteria is mostly based on [WP:NPROF]] criteria - pls note. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer iv: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calgary French and International School
- AfD is yet to be closed. We wait. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
. result is keep. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:09, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Answer v: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ilocos Norte College of Arts and Trades
. Again do read WP:NPROF as usually GNG does not apply when AfD. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- 13. Nominate 2 articles for WP:PROD and state your reasons.
Answer i: Bernhard Diekmann - The person does not meet GNG.
additional source provided
Answer ii: Highlander Brigade - This is unreferenced.
Please do not PROP/AfD/R2 2 mintues after the article is in the main space. Wait for 3 hours later to action. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- 14. Nominate 2 article for WP:BLPROD and state your reasons.
Answer i: DC Young Fly - unsourced
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer ii: Arya Shah - no sources at all
. There are two sources but they are not independent. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- 15.Nominate 2 article for WP:NPPDRAFT and state your reasons.
Answer i: Draft:Chun Peng - undersourced, but has potential to be worked on
. There are two sources but they are not independent. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer ii: Draft:Yohann Kouam - undersourced, but has potential to be worked on
here are four sources but they are not independent. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Interstellarity, Hi, see assignment 5 above. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:35, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, Pls see you AfD log (before Assignment 5 Q1).16:56, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have a question about the assignment. When you say to nominate an article for deletion (PROD and AFD) and move to draft and state my reasons, would like to me to state my reasons there or here? Interstellarity (talk) 20:00, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Kindly answer the "state my reasons" at Q13, 14 & 15. Also plse WP:RX info I have place on Assignment 2 (Source) before Q1.01:41, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: You didn't answer my question. Would you like to state my reasons on this page or at the nomination page? Interstellarity (talk) 12:29, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity I misunderstood your questions. Apologies. State your reason in this page "and" in the nomination page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:38, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Please check my work. Interstellarity (talk) 14:10, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Good day. For AfD, we usually nominate based on the meeting of notablity guidelines and provide the reason of why the subject pass or fails the GNG and which SSN requirements. Kindly add further explanation (here and in AfD page) for Q11 (i-v). thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:19, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have edited my reasons. Other editors have commented on some of the discussions. Interstellarity (talk) 14:36, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: When you get a chance, can you please take a look at my reasons for nominating them for deletion? Interstellarity (talk) 14:25, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Do you think I should request to be an AFC reviewer now or wait until the end of the course? Interstellarity (talk) 15:01, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Greetings. The PRODs and the AFD would take at least 7 days (unless the deleted of the articles are deemed closed to CSD), as such we will wait until the AFD is closed then I will review and comment on the AFD. Your AfD reason needs to be a little more in details, if possible, besides just states "no independent, reliable source could be found" or just states " it fails XXX SNG criteria", even thought the content of the article / subject is clearly not notable. Just check out other regular editors who elaborate their AfD reasons and learn from it.
- There are 3 more Assignment (Tagging, Communication with editors, Tools (reading material only) and Reviewing Article) before a final exam. Once you have done the Final Exam I will create a sub page and work with you on the different process and reviewing criteria of NPP and AfC as they are quite different. Be patient, Wikipedia is always here. It is better to equip with some basic knowledge before review any articles in AfC as we dont want an article rightful notable to be deleted or a non notable article to stay in Wikipedia. Quality triumphs quantity always when it comes to reviewing articles. While we wait for the result of AfD, see Assignment 6 and 7 below and further note on NPPDRAFT, PROD, BLPPROD and AFD. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity See comment on Q11 and Q12. On of the AfD ye to be closed. We wait. Pls also go to the AfD pages and read what other editors and closing admin comments for this is important to understand the discussion lead to the result. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- WP:NPPDRAFT - do so for articles have no sources or sources that are primary/not independent, such as from their home page, user generated sites or sport databases, club home page for sportspersons. If you would find 3 independent, reliable sources to support the notability of the subject, then please do so and add the source in the article and mark review.
- PROD - (1) When it does not fall under CSD but not controversial deletion with the notion that it will be deleted if the article is AfDed. (2) We can only PROD the article once thus do check the history page to make sure the article has not been PROD before. (3) If the PROD is removed, do not replace it (4) PROD would last for 7 day start from the date of the nomination and will be either deleted or removed of the tag by an uninvolved admin who decides the outcome of the nomination.
- BLPROD - (1) nominated if only there is no source for article about a living person. (2) BLPPROD can be removed only an reliable is added. (3) Even item 2 has been performed but editor still think it is should be deleted under PROD (1) criteria then a PROD can be tag. (3) if PROD (1) is not applicable and editor could nominate the article for AfD if the subject is not notable.
- AfD - Nominated articles to AfD if the subject is not notable or fall under Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. A WP:BEFORE should be done prior the nominated. If the article states the nationlity of the subject and a local name is provided, do search the local name in said country in Google to look for sources if any (2) Reason / justification based on notability guidelines should be address when nominate AfD or participate in a AfD. (3) Do not AfD if the sources are provided but you can locate/view them due to paywall, print book/article to determined the content claimed as per sources. (4) Request paywall article /print book from WP:RX to view the content (make sure you have you email provided in your preferences page, so the RX editors could send you the article via email). (4) You might want to reconsider to AfD an article if the sources of the article would be found mostly in other languages besides English or your languages you comprehend. For example if an article is about a Russian poet or sportman or actors / singer but the subject has not reach worldwide notability/popularity where by most source could not be found in their country reliable newspapers or books other languages but English. I dont often participate/vote for Indian actors as I dont read any Indian languages.
Tagging
[edit]In this assignment we look at tagging pages for problems. There any many tags available in Wikipedia and we will look at some of them here.
- Please enable Wikipedia:HotCat in your "Wikipedia references" - see How to enable/disable HotCat. The tool lists and proposes existing categories for auto-completion.
- Pls download StubSorter user script. The script is for adding/removing stub tags.
- Pls download Rater user script. The scripts provides a dialog interface to add, remove, or modify WikiProject banners, including class and importance assessment. Accessible from either the page itself or its talk page. after saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes - see instruction at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache.
- Please enable User:Galobtter/Shortdesc helper gadget for editing, adding, and importing short descriptions.
Tagging in the article
[edit]Please read WP:TAGGING and answer the questions below. Please provide explanation in your own words and provide hist diff when applicable.
- 1. Why do we place tags on the article?
Answer: Tagging allows editors to be notified of an article that can be worked on and also gives readers caution that the content is problematic.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- 2. What does "drive by tagging" mean?
Answer: Drive by tagging is adding tags for subtle problems without understanding what the problem is.
- 3. List down 8 common tagging should be avoided in an article?
Answer:
- Too many tags
- Redundant tags
- Vague tags
- Wrong tags
- Unhelpful tags
- Disputes over tags
- Removing tags at the inappropriate time
- Unconstructive tagging
CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- 4. When it is appropriate to remove the tags?
Answer: When the problem listed on the tag does not seem to exist as long as you don't have a COI.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- 5. Tag 10 articles from Special:Newpagesfeed where appropriate tags are needed and provide associate personal message to creator using page curator tool.
(pls provide links)
i. Answer: Denver's Mobility Action Plan
. Q5 is a 2 part question. You answer the 1st part put leave out the second part. When tagging via page curator tool, there is a box at the bottom of the box once you click one of the tag. I have tag "underlink" and gave a personal message and the system will automatically send a message to the creator talk page -see [[User talk:BatesENVR209#Ways to improve Denver's Mobility Action Plan[edit source]|Ways to improve Denver's Mobility Action Plan]]. Pls answer again (any articles in the new page) CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: It seems like you already done this one. Would you like me to answer this question again? If so, how? Interstellarity (talk) 13:32, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity I did Q5 i so as an example, but not for the rest of Q5. As for Q5 i, you can work on work on other article and provide the link (with part answers). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:46, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: It seems like you already done this one. Would you like me to answer this question again? If so, how? Interstellarity (talk) 13:32, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: Please see Sultanate of Tarim
. Message could be a little more specific - instead of 3 references. You might want to indicate 3 published independent, reliable sources - (provide links as well) so the editors would know where to find the info and what actions are needed. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: Vidya Sahai Mishra - Well, Q5 is for any tagging besides CSD/AfD/sub. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: Added message to talk page
. Same comment as per Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: Topo Chico (drink) - Same as Q5 ii. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: Please see Duke of Denia
. Same comment as per Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iv. Answer: Aalambana - Same as Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: Added message to creator (it was undone by Bbb23 because the editor is now blocked)
- OK. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
v. Answer: Duke of Almazán de Saint Priest - Same as Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: Added message to creator
. Same comment as per Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vi. Answer: Duke of Almazán - Same as Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: Added tag and message to creator
. Same comment as per Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vii. Answer: Parmastega - Same as Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: See Duke of Tarifa
. Same comment as per Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
viii.Answer: E.118 - Same as Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: Added message to creator
that message does not help the editors, especially "should" is not a correct choice of word here. A sub class is acceptable in Wikipedia. If you think the article should be expanded then provide some suggestion, guidelines on how to do it instead. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ix. Answer: Vow And Declare - Same as Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: See Siddiqui Ahmed Khan
. Same comment as per Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
x. Answer: Nashville Squares - Same as Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Answer again: See 2006 FA Women's Cup Final
Same comment as per Q5 i. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- 6. Read Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types and use StubSorter user script. Tag 10 sub class article correctly from Special:Newpagesfeed. (pls provide links)
i. Answer: Duke of Denia
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: Duke of Tarifa
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: Siddiqui Ahmed Khan
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iv. Answer: 2006 FA Women's Cup Final
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
v. Answer: Duke of Algeciras
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vi. Answers: Bank of Venice
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vii. Answer: Arturo de Marcoartu
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
viii.Answer: Tennessee State Route 291
. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
ix. Answer: Duke of Peñaranda
. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
x. Answer: Samurai Kids
. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
Categorization
[edit]- 7. Please read Wikipedia:Categorization and assign 10 articles from Special:Newpagesfeed with one or more useful categories. You can check similar articles for potentially relevant categories. (pls provide links)
i. Answers: Orban Cabinet
also National Liberal Party (Romania). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:50, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: Omaha Speedway
. Already tag Sports in Omaha, Nebraska, then Omaha Nebraska cat is not needed. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: Elizabeth Grech
. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
iv. Answer: Nanni De Angelis
. Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
v. Answer: Coccoloba padiformis
. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
vi. Answer: 2019 Yala attack
. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
vii. Answer: Cow and Chicken (Tv Series)
- ? Not sure you provide the right article, cant seem to find your tagging in the history page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer again:
viii.Answer: Robert Czakó Mural
. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
ix. Answer: Barnaba Bruti
. Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
x. Answer: List of notable diss tracks
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
WikiProject Sorting
[edit]- 8. Please read Wikipedia:WikiProject and Wikipedia:Content assessment and tag 10 articles from Special:Newpagesfeed with appropriate WikiProject and class types on the articles' talk pages. Please use Rater user script. (pls provide links)
i. Answer: Talk:Mi CC9 Pro
also Telecommunication. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: Talk:WarCraft III: Reforged
- Article was deleted. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answers: Talk:Army FM
also WikiProject Ukraine as well. One article would have multiple WikiProject tags as long as they are associated with the subject. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
iv. Answer: Talk:2019–20 Iowa Hawkeyes women's basketball team
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
v. Answer: Talk:St David's Church, Naas
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vi. Answer: Talk:Madison Bugg
also "Women" and should be Texas instead just United States. If you type Texas and it does not show up in the Rater Projectsort tool, then manually key them in. - see HERE-1] and [[Talk:Madison Bugg]. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vii. Answer: Talk:Tomasz Krystek
good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
viii.Answer: Talk:Feeroozeh Golmohammadi
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ix. Answer: Talk:Elizabeth Grech
. also "Women". CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
x. Answer: Talk:De Wet Ras
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
WikiProject Short description
[edit]- 9. short description suitable to allow a reader to identify which search result is most likely to suit their needs. All mainspace pages should have a description of what they are preferably limit to about 40 characters, but function is important. Please read Wikipedia:Short description and Wikipedia:WikiProject Short descriptions and provide 10 short descriptions in 10 different articles from Special:Newpagesfeed. Please enable User:Galobtter/Shortdesc helper prior making the edit. (pls provide links)
i. Answer: MarcoD'Elia
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: 2019–20 Super 6
. could be a little more specific. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: Autobiografiction
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iv. Answer: GR 3
- deleted. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
v. Answer: Diono
- deleted. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
vi. Answer: Dicaeus (mythology)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vii. Answer: 2019–20 Incarnate Word Cardinals men's basketball team
. Could be a little more specific. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
viii.Answer: ChineseAmericanAlliance
- deleted. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
ix. Answer: 2019 World Mixed Doubles Qualification Event
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
x. Answer: Council for Creative Education
- deleted. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
Interstellarity Greetings. See assignment 6 above. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:54, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Before I do the assignment that's below this one, are you going to check this one first or am I doing both assignments and then you check them? Interstellarity (talk) 21:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, You can do both at the same time as Assignment 6 is not the prerequisite for Assignment 7. If you have finished either one of the assignment then ping me and I will review it or you can ping me when you finish both. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:04, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, Hi do provide more than at least two categories and Wiki Projects (if applicable). Look for similar article for examples. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Which part of which assignment are you talking about? Interstellarity (talk) 11:42, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, 6.2 and 6.3. Pls provide rework on those read ink links article (believe they have been deleted). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:45, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity See comment above. (1) pls rework Q5 again (see comment on Q5 i). (2) If we are not which categories (cats) to tag or we just able to provide one or 2 cats but believe they should be more cats in the article then after provide the known cats then tag "Improve categories" under Metadata in the curator tool. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA:
Done with Q5. Interstellarity (talk) 15:06, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA:
- Interstellarity See comment at Q5. Personal message should be a little bit more specific with guidlines, links and reason for that is the purpose to help the editor. You can draft out a much longer and detail message for common issues to be fixed and save in your computer (in note pad software is the best) and reuse them instead of manually typing them each time. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Communication and editor interactions
[edit]- Wikipedia project is a collaboration of many editors, some are experienced and some are new to the Project ad Wikipedia values all constructive editors' contributions alike. Communication in a civil, respectful manner is a vital part in Wikipedia, and it should be welcomed rather than discouraged especially to new editors who are not familiar with Wikipedia guidelines and policies for most new editors find it is a steep learning curve during the first few months of editing articles or creating articles in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia:Assume good faith, WP:BITE, WP:CIVIL, Wikipedia:Etiquette, and welcome template and answer the following questions. Do provide links and hist diff where appropriate.
Communication
[edit]- 1. How do we deal with a bad faith registered user and how do we deal with a bad faith IP editor?
Answer: First off, it's better to assume good faith whenever possible. Bad faith IP editors and registered users are very similar to deal with when it comes to this. We should continue to be civil and not attack them. For example, if a bad faith user is vandalizing Wikipedia, we could start off by giving them a soft warning. If they continue vandalizing, we could give harder warnings and if they continue vandalizing after that, we can report them to WP:AIV.
Very well. Yes we treat all user the same way irregardless they are IP or registered user and maintaining civil is the key in communication. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- 2. What can we do to welcome and help the newcomers.? (List down 10 different ways/scenario)
i. Answer: Help them out at the Teahouse (which I do once in a while)
. A very helpful help desk for new editors in editing. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
ii. Answer: Assume good faith
and dont bite good faith new users. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: Welcome them by placing welcome templates on their user talk pages.
one of the best actions. I remembered when I received the welcome message and learned a lot from links and info listed in in the Welcome message. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iv. Answer: A newcomer may want to create an article from scratch. We should tell them that creating an article is the hardest task here and that they may be better off editing existing articles before diving right in.
. We also should give them a nutshell of want is required and provide them the links (WP:Your First Article and WP:REFB) for them to read. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
v. Answer: If a newcomer makes a mistake, we should point it out to them in a nice way so that they can learn from their mistakes.
and provide the links/guidelines so they could read more about it. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vi. Answer: A newcomer may get frustrated when their edits get reverted and may not realize everything on WP is saved. We should tell them in a nice way that all edits are saved.
let them know where to find it (History page) and provide them the hist diff. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vii. Answer: Don't call them names such as sockpuppet. They can be pointed to policies if they do end up socking. They may not realize that a CheckUser can determine whether they have been using multiple accounts.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
viii.Answer: If a newcomer forgets to sign their post, we can leave them a message to sign their posts.
Very Good. Also xsign for them. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ix. Answer: They may be hesitant to be bold. They may be worried that they might damage Wikipedia. We should teach them to be bold.
but also indicated not only bold but all provide good faith contribute. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
x. Answer: Sometimes newcomers aren't aware of the purpose of talk pages. We should teach how to find discussions on a particular topic.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- 3. In you own words, provide 10 ways to avoid biting the newcomers.
Answer:
i. Answer: Don't say bad words to them.
be polite and civil. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: Be patient with them
especially when we know the guidelines so well and have been editing in Wikipedia for years, we might at times find ourselves saying the same things more than thousand times but the new editors would hear it for the first time. Give step by step instructions is needed. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: Explain why you are reverting them.
and provide them the links as well. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iv. Answer: Reach a consensus with them if they disagree on how an edit should be made.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
v. Answers: If a user is doing something wrong, talk to them before asking for them to be blocked.
. Pre warn them and explain to them especially on WP:Edit Warring / WP:3RR and ask them to discuss the issue on talk page. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
vi. Answer: Don't nominate articles for deletion that newcomers make without talking to them first.
. If the article falls under CSD criteria, no warning should be given we could just tag the relevant CSD. If would be good to talk to them but I usually would just AfD/PROD/BLPPROD if I see fit. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
vii. Answer: Welcome them.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
viii. Answer: Don't use sarcasm when talking to them.
or talk down to them because we know the guidelines or the subject better or you have better command of the English Language than them. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ix. Answer: Assume good faith when possible.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
x. Answer: Treat them with dignity and respect.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
4. Place 5 different welcome templates on 5 different newcomers. (Pls provide user talk page links)
i. Answer: User talk:Mynameisking21102002
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: User talk:Theresmolimit
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: User talk:OPHIComms
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iv. Answer: User talk:Simonajamendo
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
v. Answer: User talk:Big brain 900000
. We dont give give Welcome message to vandalised editor if warning has been placed prior our visit to their talk page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- 5. List 5 uncivil behaviors and explain how you would duel with them.
i. Answer: Personal attacks - if someone makes a personal attack against me, I would ignore it and move on.
if we need to deal with them then communicate in a civil but mechanically and dont feed their troll. If they continue personal attack, you can report them.14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: Harassment - if someone harasses me - dispute resolution would be the way to go.
Make sure you civil in your communication. If we report someone and we also behave badly, then it would not serve you well at the end.14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: Legal threats - if someone makes a legal threat, I would report to ANI.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iv. Answer: Disruptive editing - if someone is disruptively editing, I would warn them and report them to ANI.
, Some explanation of what they should not be done on their talk page for certain mild cases. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
v. Answer: Rudeness - I would tell the user to stop. If they don't stop, report to ANI.
. It is very subjective of for certain rudeness is considered a personal attack or distributive behavior as it different from culture/country to culture/country. Some rudeness is considered very disruptive behavior universally but some are not. Generally rudeness is not considered a vandalism unless it is a personal attack. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
A token of appreciation
[edit]We reward Wikipedia editors for their hard work and due diligence by awarding them barnstars as a token of appreciation, encouragement and make its recipient feel good of their contributions. The choice of banstar given should be fair and appropriate, which will help prevent over-use. There are many different type of banstars, kindly read Wikipedia:Barnstars, Wikipedia:Personal user awards
5; Give 5 different banstars to 5 different editor and do provide relevant text as to why you are awarding them. (Pls provide links)
i. Answer: DESiegel
Absolutely well-deserved. He is well-equipped not only in most guidelines but also a good technically sound individual. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
ii. Answer: CASSIOPEIA
very kind of you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14
- 39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
iii. Answer: CAPTAIN RAJU
Raju is also an active NPP reviewer.
iv. Answer: Path slopu
. He loves to give Wiki Love and banstars out and he just received one from you :). CASSIOPEIA(talk)
v. Answer: Onel5969
. One of the top NPP reviewers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity. Please see Assignment 4 " our communication section" which I crossed out my previous message and added new info regarding the coopyvio script question you had asked. 03:10, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have a question on Assignment 7. On Q1, did you mean to say "How do we deal with a bad faith registered user and how do we deal with a bad faith IP editor?" instead of "How do we duel with a bad faith registered user and who do we duel with a bad faith IP editor?"? Interstellarity (talk) 23:22, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Yes, Corrected. Thanks for letting me know. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 23:24, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Is "duel" supposed to be "deal"? Interstellarity (talk) 00:03, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Yes. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have completed my assignment and also applied to be an AFC reviewer here. Interstellarity (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Yes. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Is "duel" supposed to be "deal"? Interstellarity (talk) 00:03, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity. Please see Assignment 4 " our communication section" which I crossed out my previous message and added new info regarding the coopyvio script question you had asked. 03:10, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Comment. (1) For editing issues - point new editor on how to use Wikitext/Wiki mark up, which would be a great help to new editor. - see Help:Wikitext. Let me know if you have any questions and when you are ready for your last assignment let me know. You are on your last leg now prior the final exam. Well-done so far. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Tools and help
[edit]# | Tools | For / Functions |
---|---|---|
1 | Twinkle | Wikipedia gadget to assist common maintenance tasks |
2 | Hotcat | Wikipedia gadget to propose existing categories for auto-completion |
3 | Resource Request | Wikipedia help desk to locate content of printed books or form paywall sites |
4 | Google translate | Translation |
5 | Citation Tool for Google Books | Citation tool for Google books |
6 | Reverse Image Search | Reverse image serach |
7 | User:Interstellarity/CSD log | Your Criteria for speedy deletion log] |
8 | This is your AfD log | Your Article for Deletion log |
9 |
Earwig's Copyvio Detector via web
|
Copyvio detector tool |
10 | CV-revdel | Delete copyrighted content request |
11 | StubSorter user script. | Adding/removing stub tags |
12 | Rater user script | Adding, removing, or modifying WikiProject banners, including class and importance assessment |
13 | StubSorter user script | Adding stub class sorter |
14 | Shortdesc helper script
Wikipedia gadget - Adding short description in the article | |
15 | Special:NewPagesFeed | Search new articles in Wikipedia |
16 | Copyvio Check | Displays the % of copyvio in a separate section of the info menu of the NPP toolset. |
17 | Superlinks | Quickly view pages and information related to the page they are currently viewing or editing without the need to navigate away form current page |
18 | NPP flowchart | NPP flowchart |
Interstellarity See Assignment 8- the list of tools. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:03, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Putting all together -reviewing articles
[edit]- Please install COPYVIO check script. This is a script which displays the % of copyvio in a separate section of the info menu of the NPP toolset. After saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes - see instruction at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache.
- Please install Superlinks script. This script allows users to quickly view pages and information related to the page they are currently viewing or editing without the need to navigate away from the page or open large numbers of new tabs. After saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes - see instruction at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache.
- Bookmark NPP flowchart in your devices.
- Note: quality reviewing is extremely important, please do not sacrifice quality for quantity.
Reviewing articles
[edit]- Please refer to NPP flowchart and read all the reading material provide from Assignment and tools 1-8 and answer the questions below. Please pick 10 articles from the new pages or draft pages from Special:NewPagesFeed and follow the NPP flowchart and provide the appropriate answer below (pls place N/A if not applicable). Pick articles that have 3-4 sources for the exercises below.
- 0. Example
- Article (pls provide link) = Assignment 2 - Sources Q 8 and 9 Q 8 - David Howell Petraeus
- Article titles (need to change if so state the change) = OK
- Images copyright = US free image
- NPOV (if not then state why) =yes
- COI / PAID (if yes then provide explanation)= no indication
- COPYVIO (if yes then provide source (URL) = not
- Article Class = Stub class
- Short Description = U.S. Army general
- Categories (3-5) = 1952 births ; Living people ; Commandants of the United States Army Command
- Review (Review/AfD/PROD/BLPPROD/R2) = Reviewed
- Reason (for x) = meet GNG and Military history/Notability guide#2
- Sources (see below)
- Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-cia-resign-nbc/1695271/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/09/06/petraeus-sworn-into-cia.cnn?iref=allsearch | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-petraeus-paula-broadwell_n_2118893 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.geni.com/people/Sixtus-Petraeus/6000000015418360012 | ![]() |
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? Not sure | ✘ No |
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/05/petraeus-exclusive-201005 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/beyond/interviews/petraeus.html | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/david-petraeus-general-surge-401740.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
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[edit]- 1.
- Article = Hache (TV series)
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Start
- Short Descr = Spanish television series
- Categories = 5
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for v) = Sources look good.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.harpersbazaar.com/es/cultura/ocio/a29676441/netflix-serie-hache-secretos-vestuario-guion-escenarios/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://fueradeseries.com/hache-netflix-trailer-estreno-1-de-noviembre-c969a9fc7e75 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.diezminutos.es/teleprograma/series-tv/a29886024/hache-segunda-temporada-malpica-manda-mensaje-netflix/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- 2.
- Article = Charline White
- Article titles = No problems
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Start
- Short Descr = American politician
- Categories = 6
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for v) = Meets notability guidelines
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://mdoe.state.mi.us/legislators/legislator/LegislatorDetail/2959 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/white2.html | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://digital.bentley.umich.edu/midaily/mdp.39015071754357/535 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
added additional ref and meets SSN WP:NPOL. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- 3.
- Article = Al-Sudani
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = no images
- NPOV = N/A
- COI / PAID =no
- COPYVIO = no
- Article Class = stub
- Short Descr = Disambiguation page providing links to topics that could be referred to by the same search term
- Categories = 2
- Review = PROD
- Reason (for v) = There is no need for a disambiguation page with two items.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
---|---|---|---|---|
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
Disambiguation pages don't need sources.
Your initial edit was a PROD - see HERE]. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- 4.
- Article = Lakes Creek (Uwharrie River tributary)
- Article titles = Needs to more concise
- Images copyright = OK
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = Stream in North Carolina, USA
- Categories = 3
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for v) = I don't see major problems with the article.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
| ||||
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://geonames.usgs.gov/apex/f?p=138:3:0::NO:3:P3_FID,P3_TITLE:1012658,Lakes%20Creek | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.topozone.com/north-carolina/montgomery-nc/stream/uwharrie-river/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://epa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=ada349b90c26496ea52aab66a092593b | ? not sure | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://watersgeo.epa.gov/watershedreport/?comid=9219977 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
you have the chart showing you your own assessment the overall the article fails GNG then what you say no major problem with the article? and why mark review? Did you find any independent, reliable sources in the web, if so why they were not adding into the draft. If the article fail GNG why the article is not AfD? Do not mark review when the article fails GNG instead AfD, PROD or R2 the article as the article fitting the category. If you are not sure, dont review - remember that. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- 5.
- Article = Handball at the 2019 South Asian Games
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = Handball at the 2019 South Asian Games
- Categories = 2
- Review = Draftify
- Reason (for v) = There are no sources
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- 6.
- Article = 2009–10 Liga IV Timiș
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Start
- Short Descr = 42nd season of Liga IV Timis
- Categories = 3
- Review = AFD
- Reason (for v) = There is no article called Liga IV Timis.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
| ||||
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.frf-ajf.ro/timis/competitii-fotbal/liga-iv-327/meciuri/etapa-1 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.frf-ajf.ro/timis/competitii-fotbal/liga-iv-327 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://liga2.prosport.ro/liga-3/in-c-dupa-un-secol-4638583 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.tion.ro/i-giarmata-a-ajuns-in-liga-a-iii-a/news-20090818-12371222 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
. Pls provide the AfD link please. The article was redirected - see HERE but the redirected page is not well sourced either. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- 7.
- Article = Antonio Gaona (actor)
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = OK
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = Mexican actor
- Categories = 7
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for v) = Looks OK for mainspace
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.radioformula.com.mx/entretenimiento/20170131/agradecido-por-rosario-tijeras-no-estare-en-segunda-temporada-gaona-con-shanik-berman/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.revistacentral.com.mx/notas/noticias/246896/antonio-gaona-es-el-galan-de-rosario-tijeras | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.diezminutos.es/telenovela/a1846444/antonio-gaona-jose-maria-de-tavira-rivalidad-rosario-tijeras/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.sensacine.com.mx/actores/actor-849737/biografia// | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
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[edit]- 8.
- Article = List of awards and nominations received by Capital T
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID =No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = Awards won by Capital T
- Categories = 2
- Review = Draftify
- Reason (for v) = No sources
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
---|---|---|---|---|
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
pls provide draft link next time. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- 9.
- Article = Judo at the 2005 Jeux de la Francophonie
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Start
- Short Descr = Judo competition
- Categories = 4
- Review = Draftify
- Reason (for v) = Needs more sources
- Sources
Source assessment table:
| ||||
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://web.archive.org/web/20120718103318/http://www.jeux.francophonie.org/?Les-medailles&an=2005&id_parentdiscipline=116 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
Same as first | ? Unknown | |||
http://planeteafrique.com/Actualites/News_Print.asp?ID=189 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
pls provide draft link next time. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- 10.
- Article = Khaldoun Talhouni
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV =Yes
- COI / PAID =No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = Jordanian diplomat
- Categories = 2
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for v) = Adequately cited
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.haaretz.com/1.4871493 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents/publications/cdq/cdq_dec_20081211.pdf | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.jordanembassy.nl/ambassador/EstoniaCredentials.htm | ![]() |
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✘ No |
Error: a source must be specified | ? Unknown | |||
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Creating article
[edit]- Please create an article in via Wikipedia:Articles for creation where by the subject is notable, the content adhere to all the requirement and appropriate tagging/labeling/linkings as discussed from Assignment 1-8. Some notable subjects could be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/API Women, Merab Dvalishvili and Raoni Barcelos notable MMA fighters - see Merab and https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Raoni-Barcelos-94587 Raoni] article can be created from the redirect pages Merab and Ranoni.
. Need to tag WikiProject in the talk page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:38, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity See above the last assignment. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:04, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have a question about this assignment, If an article has more than 4 sources, do I have to do every single source or Can I pick 4 sources to assess? Interstellarity (talk) 16:38, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity The goal here is to review articles, for such we have to check "every" source in the article to verify the content claimed and to identify type of source among other things we have discussed from Assignment 1-8. I do recommend to work on article has about 3-5 sources first, if possible. See notes below. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Please correct what you meant to say specially the word commander. Interstellarity (talk) 17:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity - my bad - recommend. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:26, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Please correct what you meant to say specially the word commander. Interstellarity (talk) 17:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity The goal here is to review articles, for such we have to check "every" source in the article to verify the content claimed and to identify type of source among other things we have discussed from Assignment 1-8. I do recommend to work on article has about 3-5 sources first, if possible. See notes below. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have a question about this assignment, If an article has more than 4 sources, do I have to do every single source or Can I pick 4 sources to assess? Interstellarity (talk) 16:38, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Pls note (1) If you use Google Chome, you can get the page translated by right click on the mouse and click "translate into English". (2) If you marked review and the article has no source, then find at least 3 independent, reliable source to add them in (Provide inline citation). If not then R2 the page if the page has potential CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:33, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Creating Article - need a start class not a sub. Pls provide sub section (1) Background, (2) Mixed martial arts career (2.1) Early career (2.2) UFC (list all the fight and result). (5) Fight result table. Make sure all content is support by sources. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:07, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Are the headings and subheadings good in the article? Can you check them? Interstellarity (talk) 19:23, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity I have added the headings and sub heading. You need to change the fight table info, as well as the external section. See Merab. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:53, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: What's the difference between a reference and an external link? Interstellarity (talk) 19:56, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity References / sources/ inline citations are those sources which support the content claimed in an article while external links are links that the subject most associated with. We would normally just as minimum external links in an article usually only one or two such as subject official website, their associated club/team (for sportpersons), sport/fight/matches databases, their associated organisations and etc. We dont put Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn/Intragram and etc in the external links. I also added "Championships and accomplishments" example and sub section. Kindly input info if applicable. Also added "DEFAULTSORT", pls sub the info accordingly. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:30, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA Creating an article is one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia. Is it OK if I do the final exam before creating an article because there's a lot of work needed to create an article? Interstellarity (talk) 13:12, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity To be a reviewer, it would be an ideal to understand how to create an article, after all you need to know what need to be done to create an article and understand from creator position, after all you are a reviewer. By the way, you need to add MMA infobox into the draft page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:34, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Good work. I have clean up a little and it is ready to move the content to the redirect page HERE. Once yo have done that then (1) inform me so I would review the article. (2) add G7 on the draft page. (3) 9.1.1 1 Ran Nir ; 9.1.4 4 Kazuo Okamura ; 9.1.7 7 Myrna Casas and 9.1.9 9 John van den Heuvel - pls note there are a lot of sources and you have not place all the sources on the sources table to indicate if they are independent and reliable - pls rework. thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:29, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Since they have a lot of sources, would you like me to pick new articles or use those articles? Interstellarity (talk) 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Interstellarity Sure, you can choose another articles. Do note the following
- For any article without source and you would like to review it and accept the article (meet notability requirements) then you need to find the independent sources (at least 3) which would support the content claimed then place inline citation.
- If you have a hard time to find (say the sources most probably in foreign languages) and it is a potential article, then do a R2.
- For foreign language sources, use google translate, I do that all the time.
- If there is a native name provided in the article, and you know which country the subject is from, then google the native name with the associate country in google search such as a Russian subject then Google search on "native name.ru".
- When reviewing, first pls check if the article fit CSD criteria (do remember to check copyvio), then if the article has no source - do a R2 (I usualy do a R2 for potential article) or tag BLPPROD if it is a BLP or search for the source (I always search for source if I know the subject is notable and add the sources it). For sourced articles, check sources against content claimed. If meet notability guidelines (at least 3 independent, reliable sources needed and check SSN guidelines), then mark review. If the article fails the notability guidelines, then do a PROD if you think if send to AfD will be a definitely delete or nominate AfD for discussion, if you think a discussion should take place.
- Always check all the sources. Any articles that you not sure if it meets notability guidelines, then left them to other patroller.
- When reviewing, make sure take your time - always quality over quantity, most active, longtime, experience reviewers do less than 5-10 per day. others will do less than 5.
Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Can the page be reviewed or does it have to be unreviewed? Interstellarity (talk) 13:18, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Mark unreview. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA So if the page is reviewed, do I mark it as unreviewed? Just to clarify. Interstellarity (talk) 13:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Yes, jut mark unreview. Any editor has a NPP user right can unreview any reviewed article, including you own reviewed article. When an article is unreviewed by other reveiwer, besides the original reviewer, then an automatic message will be sent to the original reviewer by the system, so when we unreveiw other patroller articles we need to have a solid reason why we do so. If you have reviewed an article and later find that you are unsure of something, you can unreview it and other reviewer will pick it up to review the article. (note: I think you know by now patroller and reviewer means the same thing and it is interchangeable). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:42, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I finished. Interstellarity (talk) 15:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Yes, jut mark unreview. Any editor has a NPP user right can unreview any reviewed article, including you own reviewed article. When an article is unreviewed by other reveiwer, besides the original reviewer, then an automatic message will be sent to the original reviewer by the system, so when we unreveiw other patroller articles we need to have a solid reason why we do so. If you have reviewed an article and later find that you are unsure of something, you can unreview it and other reviewer will pick it up to review the article. (note: I think you know by now patroller and reviewer means the same thing and it is interchangeable). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:42, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA So if the page is reviewed, do I mark it as unreviewed? Just to clarify. Interstellarity (talk) 13:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Mark unreview. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, good day. - see the review - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calgary French and International School AfD has yet to be closed. We wait for the result. I will leave you all the Notes and additional info before the Final Exam section. Please read through them prior doing the Final exam. Take you time to do the exam as some of the AfD/CSD/review might need a few day to some weeks to find them. Make sure when you select the article you are sure of the result/correct answers especially on CSD and review. If you are not sure, leave them - I have said that many times, pls remember that. I dont review every articles after I checked the sources, I selectively review/AfD/CSD/PROD/BLPPROD/R2 them. Do help to add in sources, if the subject is notable and not enough sources on the article (aim for at least 3 independent sources) and aim for any article you review will not be AfD in the future which means the notability of the subject is met. If you have any questions, please raise. You have been doing well and very hardworking on this program. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Article creation messages
@CASSIOPEIA: I need help finding sources that talk about his life. The sources I come across show his statistics, but not a story about his life. Can you help me? Interstellarity (talk) 11:52, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity - see this MMMA sites - MMADNA - The Netherlands, In The Cage - Poland, Combate - Brazil, Kimura - Sweden, MMA Junkie - USA, MMA Fighting - USA, Blody Elbow - USA, Sherdog - USA, RT - Russia and ESPN USA. He is from Georgia, I dont know what is his native name, if we know the native name and know where the subject is from, we could search the native on Google of their native country and search additional info. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:06, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, Does my draft look good so far? Interstellarity (talk) 14:12, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Pls see WP:LEAD. No height and record info on lead. 135Ibs is bantamweight devision so dont need to put 135 ibs in the lead as well. However, you need to put which mixed martial organisation he is fighting in. For Early career, section, it might be hard to find sources as most fights prior to UFC are regional fights and also for a Georgian fighters, they would fight in Russia. Put whatever you can fight in the Early career section . For UFC (2.2) plenty of sources for all the fights. You need to put who he fought, dates at which event and the result of the fight. All UFC events have articles in Wikipedia, so pls link them and most UFC fighters have pages in Wikipedia as well. For Championship and accomplishment and Fight records, the info there are examples, you need list the fight record as per Dvalishvili in Sherdog. If he has any achievement, in boxing or mma (such as won title fight) then list them down. all info need to be sourced. As I mentioned before not Twitter/FB etc on External links section. thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:01, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, I have removed the Championship and accomplishment section because I couldn't find any sources discussing his accomplishments. Interstellarity (talk) 20:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Pls see WP:LEAD. No height and record info on lead. 135Ibs is bantamweight devision so dont need to put 135 ibs in the lead as well. However, you need to put which mixed martial organisation he is fighting in. For Early career, section, it might be hard to find sources as most fights prior to UFC are regional fights and also for a Georgian fighters, they would fight in Russia. Put whatever you can fight in the Early career section . For UFC (2.2) plenty of sources for all the fights. You need to put who he fought, dates at which event and the result of the fight. All UFC events have articles in Wikipedia, so pls link them and most UFC fighters have pages in Wikipedia as well. For Championship and accomplishment and Fight records, the info there are examples, you need list the fight record as per Dvalishvili in Sherdog. If he has any achievement, in boxing or mma (such as won title fight) then list them down. all info need to be sourced. As I mentioned before not Twitter/FB etc on External links section. thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:01, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity What you have learn from Assignment from 1 -8, you need to apply all of them. 1. pls do not submit for review for at the end of the day, when all is right, the content will move to the redirect page and this page will be deleted under Db-g7 for this assignment. 2. the UFC fight is not complete, pls rework and list all fight in detail and each fight should have 2 sources (one when the fight is announced and one the fight result). 3. remove all red ink links. 4. for redirect page, pls remove link, 5. for Disamb page, pls check for correct subject, if subject is not one of the list, remove the link. 7. Fails notability requirement, you have only one independent reliable source. 8, have stated 2 times, pls list min External links (keep only two) and go and read what I have stated. 9. 10.Pls add See also section - check which article that is associated with the subject and place it there (find 2 articles) 10. manually place at least 4 categories and place ":" before the cat - see example in draft. 11.manually place short description. 12. Talk page - need WikiProject. 13, need some info on either personal life or background. Look in Google for his name and read all the link (you might need to go through 15-20 pages to find them). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:18, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have changed the redirect target to the draft. I don't quite understand which page you mean when you say Disamb page. Interstellarity (talk) 18:49, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Also where in the table do I put the inline citations? Interstellarity (talk) 18:51, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I have changed the redirect target to the draft. I don't quite understand which page you mean when you say Disamb page. Interstellarity (talk) 18:49, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity For Disamb - look for text in hightedl orange colour. Click on it and it will bring you to another page (the Disamb page). Find if any of the subjec tis the subject you are looking for. If so, then wiki link it. If not then remove the double brackets on the draft page. No inline citation on the table. Pls see Ian Heinisch for example. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:03, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Is the orange link at the top or bottom of the page? Interstellarity (talk) 19:07, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity see the fight record table - "Paul Grant". CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity For the full fight table citation place below the table (use Sherdog.com as source).19:23, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity see the fight record table - "Paul Grant". CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA, I asked a question at the AFC help desk, but I haven't received a response within 24 hours. What should I do? Interstellarity (talk) 17:11, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity good day. AfC help desk usually would not answer question on such (how to express in your own words). AfC helps and advises new editors who either need to understand why their articles are declined, Why the sources in their article are not accepted, why the subject is not notable, and etc. How to write in your own words/NPOV is the writer job. That is the reason why I set up a few question in our earlier assignment and get you to rewrite/express in your own word/NPOV so you may have some experience of such and also able to know if editors make such mistake when reviewing especially in AfC review. The key point you would take away from the source HERE-0 are that 1. Merab Dvalishvili 1.he is a Georgian 1. came to US at 21 as a amateur fighter 3. train under Serra-Longo Fight Team, 4. One of his teammate who showed him the ground game/grappling he needs to achieve is Aljamain Sterling, who is also a UFC fighter which inspiration him to work hard to be one of the elite fighter. You can write better than I do, just reshape it but keep the key points in either a few sentences or in one. For example his fight with Ricky Simon - The announced of the bout HERE could just be summarized into a sentence "Dvalishvili faced Ricky Simon on April 21, 2018, at UFC Fight Night 128.[1]
References
- ^ "LI's Dvalishvili healthy, aiming for first UFC win in AC". Newsday. Retrieved 2019-02-07.
- You would write more about how to write an article or what is needed (as what we cover in Assignment 1-7) would be also found in WP:Your First Article. The way to go about it is put all your reading material in a section (tree format / table format).
No | Source | What type of source | which section | Key points | rephrase/summarized |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | HERE 1 and HERE 2 - sherdog |
1. Independent ![]() 2. reliable ![]() 3.direct talk about him ![]() |
under Ultimate Fighting Championship section | 1. returns to the cage Saturday in Atlantic City feeling healthy as he seeks his first UFC victory in a bantamweight bout against Ricky Simon - good wrestling and striker. 2. UFC ATLANTIC CITY FIGHT CARD = UFC Fight Night 128 on Apr / 21 / 2018 |
Dvalishvili faced Ricky Simon on April 21, 2018, at UFC Fight Night: Barboza vs. Lee |
2 | HERE-0 | 1. Independent ![]() 2. reliable ![]() 3.direct talk about him ![]() |
Under Background section | 1. he is a Georgian 1.
|
Summaries / rephrase key points here |
- Do note primary sources (such as the height, where they fight out from and some personal life/background info can be used in an article but they can NOT be used to contribute or demonstrate the notability requirement needed. To say that if the info/content from primary sources is challenge by editors then a discussion need to take place and the info from primary sources might need to removed if consensus of involved editor. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:13, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, I worked on the draft for a little bit. Can you give feedback on it please?Interstellarity (talk) 19:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Good work. I have clean up a little and it is ready to move the content to the redirect page HERE. Once yo have done that then (1) inform me so I would review the article. (2) add G7 on the draft page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:03, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I tried to move it to mainspace, but I got this message: "The page could not be moved, for the following reason:
- The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid.
- Please choose another name, or use Requested moves to ask for the page to be moved.
- Do not manually move the article by copying and pasting it; the page history must be moved along with the article text. " Why is that Interstellarity (talk) 11:54, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity It is because it is a redirect page. I have informed you to copy and past the content to HERE (remove the redirect content). Then G7 your draft article. Let me know when it is done. Also I left a message to you on this assignment (above this sub topic) where sources need to be identified. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:01, 20 November 2019 (UTC).
- @CASSIOPEIA: I did that and I also marked the article as reviewed. Interstellarity (talk) 20:25, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, You have done a good work on creating the article. Do note nnly user with autoptroller user right dont need their articles to be reviewed by other reviewers. You could review the article because the page was a redirect. Please do not review your own work on a redirect page next time. For a user who have a NPP reviewer right, their articles will be reviewed by other NPP reveiwer (the system does not allow you to review your own article). For AfC reviewer, their article with be reviewed by other AfC reviewer and if the reviewer does not have the NPP reviewer right, then the article need to be reviewer again by other NPP reviewer. As you can see, it takes a lot of time to write an article, from researching, writing, formatting, linking, tagging, even you know the subject is notable prior writing it. For most new editors, it would take about a few weeks to write a start class article as they are not familiar with how to write an article and what is expected from Wikipedia. . We need to take this into consideration on how to help the new editors especially in AfC review. When you have finished the rest of the source info 9.1.1 1 Ran Nir ; 9.1.4 4 Kazuo Okamura ; 9.1.7 7 Myrna Casas and 9.1.9 9 John van den Heuvel - pls note there are a lot of sources and you have not place all the sources on the sources table to indicate if they are independent and reliable. Once this is done, we could move on to the final exam. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Notes:
- Paywall site: If the source is from a paywall site, then see help from WP:RX and you need to forward me the print article once RX send it to you via email.
- Lack of sources : If there is lack of sources, we need to do a WP:BEFORE, then we and add in the sources (at least 3 independent, reliable sources in the article) if we going to mark review.
- Print sources: I do suggest to avoid any print sources for they are hard to located.
- Digital sources of forgeign languages: If the sources are digital and in forieng languages, then get it translated.
- Filtering: If you are going to AfD, or PROD then you need to provide reasons of why you are doing do. I would like you to work on different outcomes (some review, some nominated AfD or PROD); however, you still need to do the rest of the requirement such as tagging cats, Wiki Project, subsort (if it is a sub class), send personal messages and etc.
- Work on subject you are familiar with
Notes
[edit]Assignment 1
[edit]- WP:AGF and not WP:BITE -We should always help the new editors who want to provide good contribution and want to improve Wikipedia even at time they might not know the the Wikipedia guidelines
- WP:Notability - In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if (1) it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject whee by the sources talk "directly" about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2) it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy.
- WP:GNG and SSN - both could be used when reviewing an article.
Assignment 2
[edit]- WP:Sources - Sources needed are significant coverage of published Independent / WP:SECONDARY , reliable sources to verify the content claimed where by the sources talk about the subject in lenght and in depth and not only passing mentioned.
Assignment 3
[edit]- WP:Content Policy - Article needs to adhere to Wikipedia Content Policy in article article title, WP:biographies of living person, image and text (Wikipedia:Image use policy and WP:COPYVIO, WP:NPOV, verifiability
- WP:COPYVIO - Public domain and note proper nouns are not Copyvio
- Wikipedia:Image use policy - check the original source
Assignment 4
[edit]- WP:CSD - go through the criteria
- WP:COI / WP:PAID - Self-disclosure by COI/PAID editors is one of the many ways we find out that they are COI/PAID. The different between a COI say an COI editor write about themselves, or friends is that written prose is not that perfect as compared that to a professional writers' (PAID editor). Secondly, if the article is about a company, the prose of the article is written more like a businesslike (business writing). Thirdly, professional paid editor would provide neat citations and only take one or 2 edits to create the article. In addition, professional PAID editors would create multiple different companies article that normal COI editors would not. Do note PAID is a subset of COI and an COI would also a PAID editor such as a small business owner write about their company or a rapper write about their own article in Wikipedia
- G11 (promo) - What constitute a G11? At times it is hard to define. Although if a article is blantantly promote or advertise about the subject then it is a G11. Sometimes, the it is a little subtle and that would be a judgement call. As a rule of thumb, if article about an entertainers (actor/singer/DJ/artist and etc) in dept of how hard they work, how motivated they are, using all the puffery/flowery languages and especially the subject does not meet notability guidelines. For a corporation, we would see they list down all they product/services, their directors/key person in the company, they mission, their client, they are the influencer in their industrial, all the words/phrased to enhance/market the company and no substantial info that is supported by independent reliable sources. If you look at the this version of Zapp Scooters which you tagged G11, I have to agree with the editor who removed the tag that it is not a G11 and unsourced info can be removed.
- G12 (copyvio) - Copyright violation addresses the use of original expression without permission of the holder which is a violation of laws even the credit is given to the source. For articles, the Copyright Law gives the copyright protection to the “original works of authorship fixed in in a tangible medium of expression” in the newspaper, magazine and freelance article at the moment of their creation, for the life of the creator plus 70 years after, and 95 years for corporation publication or 120 years from date of creation, whichever is shorter.
Assignment 5
[edit]- WP:NPPDRAFT - do so for articles have no sources or sources that are primary/not independent, such as from their home page, user generated sites or sport databases, club home page for sportspersons. If you would find 3 independent, reliable sources to support the notability of the subject, then please do so and add the source in the article and mark review.
- PROD - (1) When it does not fall under CSD but not controversial deletion with the notion that it will be deleted if the article is AfDed. (2) We can only PROD the article once thus do check the history page to make sure the article has not been PROD before. (3) If the PROD is removed, do not replace it (4) PROD would last for 7 day start from the date of the nomination and will be either deleted or removed of the tag by an uninvolved admin who decides the outcome of the nomination.
- BLPROD - (1) nominated if only there is no source for article about a living person. (2) BLPPROD can be removed only an reliable is added. (3) Even item 2 has been performed but editor still think it is should be deleted under PROD (1) criteria then a PROD can be tag. (3) if PROD (1) is not applicable and editor could nominate the article for AfD if the subject is not notable.
- AfD - Nominated articles to AfD if the subject is not notable or fall under Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. A WP:BEFORE should be done prior the nominated. If the article states the nationality of the subject and a local name is provided, do search the local name in said country in Google to look for sources if any (2) Reason / justification based on notability guidelines should be address when nominate AfD or participate in a AfD. (3) Do not AfD if the sources are provided but you can locate/view them due to paywall, print book/article to determined the content claimed as per sources. (4) Request paywall article /print book from WP:RX to view the content (make sure you have you email provided in your preferences page, so the RX editors could send you the article via email). (4) You might want to reconsider to AfD an article if the sources of the article would be found mostly in other languages besides English or your languages you comprehend. For example if an article is about a Russian poet or sportman or actors / singer but the subject has not reach worldwide notability/popularity where by most source could not be found in their country reliable newspapers or books other languages but English. I dont often participate/vote for Indian actors as I dont read any Indian languages.
Assignment 6
[edit]- Taggaing - sue scripts/tools to tag appropiate cat/wikiproject/subsort/issues in the their respectively fields.
Assignment 7
[edit]- Many ways to communicate with the editors - focus on the subject not the ediots. Be civil and helpful always.
Assignment 8
[edit]- Tools - as per listed
Assignment 9
[edit]- Reviewing article - Apply what have learnt from Assignment 1-8 when reviewing article.
- Paywall site: If the source is from a paywall site, then see help from WP:RX and you need to forward me the print article once WP:RX send it to you via email.
- Lack of sources : If there is lack of sources, we need to do a WP:BEFORE, then we and add in the sources (at least 3 independent, reliable sources in the article) if we going to mark review.
- Print sources: I do suggest to avoid any print sources for they are hard to located.
- Digital sources of foreign languages: If the sources are digital and in foreign languages, then get it translated.
- Filtering: If you are going to AfD, or PROD then you need to provide reasons of why you are doing do. I would like you to work on different outcomes (some review, some nominated AfD or PROD); however, you still need to do the rest of the requirement such as tagging cats, Wiki Project, subsort (if it is a sub class), send personal messages and etc.
- Work on subject you are familiar with
- For any article without source and you would like to review it and accept the article (meet notability requirements) then you need to find the independent sources (at least 3) which would support the content claimed then place inline citation.
- If you have a hard time to find (say the sources most probably in foreign languages) and it is a potential article, then do a R2.
- For foreign language sources, use google translate, I do that all the time.
- If there is a native name provided in the article, and you know which country the subject is from, then google the native name with the associate country in google search such as a Russian subject then Google search on "native name.ru".
- When reviewing, first pls check if the article fit CSD criteria (do remember to check copyvio), then if the article has no source - do a R2 (I usualy do a R2 for potential article) or tag BLPPROD if it is a BLP or search for the source (I always search for source if I know the subject is notable and add the sources it). For sourced articles, check sources against content claimed. If meet notability guidelines (at least 3 independent, reliable sources needed and check SSN guidelines), then mark review. If the article fails the notability guidelines, then do a PROD if you think if send to AfD will be a definitely delete or nominate AfD for discussion, if you think a discussion should take place.
- Always check all the sources. Any articles that you not sure if it meets notability guidelines, then left them to other patroller.
- When reviewing, make sure take your time - always quality over quantity.
- Creating article - make sure the subject is notable with significant coverage of published Independent / WP:SECONDARY , reliable sources to verify the content claimed where by the sources talk about the subject in length and in depth and not only passing mentioned.
Final Exam
[edit]Part 1
[edit]1. In your own words, why and how do comunicate with the editor and why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE them?
- Answer: It is important to AGF and not bite them because we want to be sure that we welcome new editors here. If we bite them, then it might discourage new users from editing Wikipedia and they may see Wikipedia as a place where people hurt each other which is not what our aim is here.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
2. What kind of sources are needed to demonstrate/contribute the notability of the subject? and hwy it is important?
- Answer: Sources need to be independent, reliable, and have significant coverage of the subject. This is important because we want to be sure that our content comes from good sources.
. it is important because we need the content to be " verify" by independent reliable sources. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
3.What constitutes a [WP:COPYVIO]? and why it is not a copyvio even the texts are identical the same as per sources?
- Answer: A copyvio consists of copying and pasting the same content to an article. Times when it is not a copyvio is when the content is in the public domain or a free license.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
4. What should we do when we encounter WP:COPYVIO article and what should we place on the COPYVIO editor's talk page?
- Answer: It is best to bring it up on the article talk page so others users are aware of the issue. I would add Template:Uw-copyright on their talk page to explain them of the copyvio.
. When we encounter copyvio, we tag CSD copyvio on the page with the URL of the source. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
5. What should we do when we encounter WP:PAID article and what should we place on the COPYVIO editor's talk page?
- Answer: I would place Template:Uw-paid1 on their talk page. If they persist, user level 2, 3, or 4 warnings. If they still continue, report to WP:ANI.
. We tag Paid template on the article page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
6. When do we nominated a page for WP:G12 and when do we WP:REVDEL the COPYVIO text?
- Answer: We revdel when there is a part of the text containing the copyvio while we delete it if the entire page is a copyvio.
. We revel if the copyvio text is only "very small" part of the article. We nominate CSD if a big chunk of the copyvio texts are from source. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
7. What constitute an article is a WP:PROMO page? and what should do do when we encounter one?
- Answer: An article that promotes or advertises a subject which is contrary to Wikipedia's purpose. If an article is encounter, we should tag it for speedy deletion under G11.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
8. Why do we tag a page? What are the normal tags we place in an article
- Answer: Tagging indicates to editors and readers that there is issues with the article. Some tags that are placed can be More references, No references, and Stub tags.
9. When do we WP:R2 a page?
- Answer: When we decide to draftify the article.
. We R2 when the articles has no or limited sources and we move them to draft space for the author to add the sources in. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
10. When do we WP:PROD a page?
- Answer: When an article doesn't meet CSD, but not expected to be controversial.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
11. When do we WP:BLPPROD a page?
- Answer: When a BLP is not sourced.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
12. When do we WP:AfD a page?
- Answer: When an article meets the criteria for deletion. I personally think if the article meets the criteria for deletion, I would take to AFD rather than PROD because sometimes AFDs have a unanimous consensus to delete.
When an article does not meet PROD or CSD and the notability of the subject is in questions after a WP:BEFORE is done.
13. Why it is important to WP:CSD a page when the article fit the CSD criteria?
- Answer: It is important to CSD a page when it meets the criteria because opening a discussion at AFD can be a waste of time.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
14. When do we decide to WP:R2 / WP:PROD / WP:BLPPROD a page when the article has no source in it?
- Answer: We draftify an article if an article has potential to be worked on and reliable sources can be found. We PROD an article if no reliable sources can be found. BLPPROD is similar as well, but for BLPs.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
15. In your own words, list down 5 things you haven learnt from observing and participating in AfD.
- Answer i: Don't rush into nominating AFDs. Read policies to see if there is an alternative to deletion.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer ii: Votes must be made based on policies and guidelines, not on personal opinions.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iii: Don't make personal attacks on other editors during the nomination.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iv: AFD is not a vote. It's a discussion.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer v: Don't nominate AFDs created by new editors in new pages patrol because doing so would be biting them and they may be working on the article.
. AFD can be nominator by new creator but we wait for 3 hours after an article appears in New Feed Pages before we decided to do so. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 2
[edit]Pls read WP:PROMOTION and WP:G11 and provide 5 successful CSD 11 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol or Article for Creation section). Pls provide the article names and hist diff/links
- Answer i: Draft:Asian Times
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer ii: Truck lagbe
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iii: Draft:Eli Mikal
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iv: Draft:Serge Contesse
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer v: Bspwm
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 3
[edit]Pls read WP:COPYVIO, WP:REVDEL, WP:COPYPASTE, WP:DCM and WP:G12 and provide 5 successful CSD 12 articles you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol or Article for Creation section). Pls provide the article names and hist diff and I will check them at your CSD log. You can use Earwig's Copyvio Detector tool to check if an article is in violation of COPYVIO.
- Answer i: Draft:Joël Ouaknine
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer ii: Draft:Joseph F. Shrader
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iii: Draft:Jerome Elliot 'El-Jay' Woods II
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iv: Draft:Pachai Vilakku 2019
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer v: Draft:Paolo Bortolameolli
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 4
[edit]Pls read and A1-A11 and R2 at WP:CSD and and provide 5 successful "Article CSD" articles (with at least two of them are CSD A7) you have nominated from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol "ONLY"). Pls provide the article names and hist diff.
- Answer i: Pitane (mythology)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:00, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer ii: 2013 Tuz Khurmatu mosque bombing
- 42 deaths is not a A7. - see Proposed deletion of Homs school bombing
- Answer iii: Narayan Rao Tarale
not a A7. As per ANI which I have addressed at the Final exam message thread. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:00, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iv: Sophie Buddle
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:00, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer v: Qualsys
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:00, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 5
[edit]1. Nominate 2 articles for WP:PROD and state your reasons.
- Answer i: Jaipur Watch Company
- does not meet PROD. Article do have source indication of the company. If you think the subject fails WP:NORG then WP:BEFORE if you want to bring it to AfD. We PROD when we think the article would most likely be deleted in AfD. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:10, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer ii: Homs school bombing
. How could this article be a PROD when the bombing killed 54 people? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:10, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
2. Nominate 1 article for WP:BLPROD and state your reasons.
- Answer i: Allen L. Rothenberg
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:10, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
3. Pls read WP:R2 and WP:NPPDRAFT and provide 2 successful WP:R2 from Special:NewPagesFeed (New Page Patrol "ONLY"). Pls provide the article names and hist diff.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:10, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer ii: Draft:Kiekbaev Jalil
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:10, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 6
[edit]1. Participate in 5 WP:AFD where by you are the first voter of the discussion. Please provide you reason either to delete, keep, redirect or merge.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
.03:47, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iii: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Airguard
.03:47, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
. to note: WP:NCORP would normally to considered more important than just pass WP:GNG even thought passing WP:GNG is the standard guidelines and it is same go with sportsperson and sometimes we find it is the same with other SSN as well. There were many debate in Wikipedia whereby should SSN should be replace GNG or should be treated equivalent as GNG or interchangeable, but no consensus have been achieved so far. From my experience, editors AfD would support the guidelines of SSN for NCROP and sportsperson that of GNG in general. As we have found out the discussion is based on how many involved participants, admin decision, and most of all the reason/debate/analysis of the discussion itself to determine if an article to be kept/deleted. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:47, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 7
[edit]Nominate 5 articles for WP:AFD by using WP:Twinkle and provide explanation of your nomination.
Could understand why you AfD it. Many times for fiction character, song, album etc, voter might redirect/merge to of associated/principal subjects. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer ii: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ntsele
. AfD can be nominated even it is a stub and it could be AfD after at least 3 hours shown in NPP but a WP:BEFORE need to be done first.
- Note: if (1) you do not familiar with subject.
- (2) and they subject is from a country where by the native languages are those you are not do not comprehend,
- (3) the subject is of ancient or hundred of years before our time then it would be better leave it.
- This is because, sources would be found in the local language, in print and it would difficult for us to do a WP:BEFORE. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
. You might want to state you reason/justification of AfD beside just indicating no independent, reliable sources found. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
. Redirect is the right choice for plurals of slang terms. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 8
[edit]Pls list 10 things needs to be considered/done when reviewing a page.'
- Answer i: Check for vandalism.
. Check for WP:Wikipedia is not CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer ii: Check to see if it's written in English.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iii: Check the references.
. check for independent, reliable sources for verification. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer iv: Check for copyright violations.
. good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer v: Check for promotional content.
. Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer vi: Check the notability guidelines.
. Good. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer vii: Add categories.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer viii: Add short description.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer xi: Add stub tags.
.if the article is a sub class CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Answer x: Add WikiProjects to talk page.
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:14, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 9
[edit]Pls follow the NPP flowchart and read all the reading material provide from Assignment and tools 1-8 and answer the questions below. Please pick 5 articles that meet the notability guidelines (no PROD/BLPPROD/R2/AfD/CSD) from the new pages from Special:NewPagesFeed and follow the NPP flowchart and provide the appropriate answer below (pls place N/A if not applicable). Pick articles that have 3-4 sources for the exercises below. (pls provide link and hist diff)
1
[edit]- 1.
- Article = China-Kyrgyzstan-Uzbekistan International Highway
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Start
- Short Descr = Network of roads of Asia
- Categories = 1
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for 10) = Sources look OK and the article is notable.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/the-central-asian-nodes-in-belt-and-road-project/article28110610.ece | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/15/c_138145407.htm | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_662805/t1658766.shtml | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://eurasianet.org/kyrgyzstan-asks-china-for-grant-instead-of-loan | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.railfreight.com/beltandroad/2019/11/04/from-china-to-iran-via-kyrgyzstan-is-faster-rail-link-real/?gdpr=accept | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
2
[edit]- 2.
- Article = Istrouma, Louisiana
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = OK
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = Unincorporated community in Louisiana
- Categories = 3
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for 10) = It is notable and supported by reliable sources.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
| ||||
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
---|---|---|---|---|
https://geonames.usgs.gov/apex/f?p=gnispq:3:0::NO::P3_FID:543334 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://books.google.com/books?id=rvt8XrCzlwQC | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=XJ9phjBhQyQC&pg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=3esxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA21#v=onepage&q&f=false | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
. There are only 2 independent, reliable sources in the article, so do search in the net and add more then time (at least 3 needed to meet significant coverage requirements. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
3
[edit]- 3.
- Article = Meitei sperm theory
- Article titles = Ok
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = How sperms evolved (not sure if this is a good short description)
- Categories = Not sure what categories to add
- Review = R2
- Reason (for 10) = Same as Q5.
- Sources
CASSIOPEIA Would R2 be the best action to do because the this article relies on a single source? I tagged the article appropriately. Interstellarity (talk) 13:55, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
The source to me is not a reliable source - see HERE. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
4
[edit]- 4.
- Article = Future Nostalgia
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Stub
- Short Descr = 2020 studio album by Dua Lipa
- Categories = 4
- Review = Reviewed
- Reason (for 10) = Except for one source, the others look good.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
| ||||
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
---|---|---|---|---|
https://www.inquisitr.com/5770858/dua-lipa-tattoo-new-album-title-floral-bikini/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://twitter.com/DUALIPA | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.nme.com/news/music/dua-lipa-teases-nostalgic-new-album-2564233 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50302789 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.bigtop40.com/news/dua-lipa-number-1-dont-start-now/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
remove social site sources from body text next time. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
5
[edit]- 5.
- Article = 1988 Davis Cup World Group Relegation Play-offs
- Article titles = OK
- Images copyright = No images
- NPOV = Yes
- COI / PAID = No
- COPYVIO = No
- Article Class = Start
- Short Descr = Not sure about this one
- Categories = 1
- Review = R2
- Reason (for 10) = Relies on single source, but I found additional sources that might be useful on Google.
- Sources
Source assessment table:
| ||||
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
---|---|---|---|---|
https://www.daviscup.com/en/draws-results/tie.aspx?id=M-DC-1988-WG-REL-NZL-PAR-01 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.daviscup.com/en/draws-results/tie.aspx?id=M-DC-1988-WG-REL-MEX-SUI-01 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.daviscup.com/en/draws-results/tie.aspx?id=M-DC-1988-WG-REL-BRA-ESP-01 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.daviscup.com/en/draws-results/tie.aspx?id=M-DC-1988-WG-REL-ISR-IND-01 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
- the page has since redirected - see HERE. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Part 10
[edit]Creating article
Please create an article in via Wikipedia:Articles for creation where by the subject is notable, the content adhere to all the requirement and appropriate tagging/labeling/linkings as discussed from Assignment 1-8. Some notable subjects could be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/API Women, Raoni Barcelo see Raoni article can be created from the redirect pages Ranoni - redirec page is here Ranoni. (write the article in the draft page first and do not submit when it finished, just ping me)
Answer: Raoni Barcelos
. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:35, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Final score
[edit]Part | Total questions | Mark | Total available | Question right | Your score | Percentage weighting | Your percentage |
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1 | 20 | 1 | 20% | 15.5 | 15.5 | 20 % | 15.5 % |
2 | 5 | 1 | 5% | 5 | 5 | 5 % | 5 % |
3 | 5 | 2 | 10% | 10 | 10 | 10 % | 10 % |
4 | 5 | 2 | 10% | 3 | 6 | 10 % | 6 % |
5 | 5 | 2 | 10% | 3 | 6 | 10 % | 6 % |
6 | 5 | 2 | 10% | 4 | 8 | 10 % | 8 % |
7 | 5 | 2 | 10% | 3 | 6 | 10 % | 6 % |
8 | 10 | 1 | 10% | 10 | 10 | 10 % | 10 % |
9 | 5 | 2 | 10% | 10 | 10 | 10 % | 10 % |
10 | 1 | 5 | 5% | 1 | 5 | 5 % | 5 % |
TOTAL | 66 | 100% | 100 | 80.5 | 100 % | 80.5 % |
CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:24, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Take your time and select the article for CSD, AfD and accepting the NPP article carefully. All the best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:48, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I'm using the visual editor while doing my final exam and the source editor when replying to you. However, the visual editor messed up the Filtering - Deletion policy & other alternatives title by duplicating it multiple times (see the table of contents). Can you please fix that? Interstellarity (talk) 20:27, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity. Restore to this version (left) SEE HERE (LEFT) and copy and paste all your answer from the hist diff from SEE HERE (RIGHT) onward. Visual editor is a great tool but there are bugs and certain things do not work sometimes. I once used Visual editor for redirect and each time after I clicked save, my computer froze up and I had to restart it. I use Visual editor for citation and I have never encounter any problem, so dont use visual basic anything other than citation that would be the save bet until the software teams fix up what is needed. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:51, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I have another question. This one is about Part 7. I was recently told by EllenCT not to nominate AfDs from NPP. This is the message. Is this user correct? If so, where can I find articles that I can nominate for deletion? Interstellarity (talk) 16:08, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: "unless you do a thorough search of notability and can be confident of the results," I said, as per WP:BEFORE as cited above, parts C and D. EllenCT (talk) 21:11, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: @EllenCT: courtesy ping EllenCT here. I saw the message (thank for the his diff), EllenCT is right. Interstelarity, as I have mentioned to you before, do allow the editor at least 3 hours after their articles shown on NPP feed before AfD or R2 them as the editors might still working on the article for not all editors could complete their article in one go/in a few edits since some new editors are not familiar with formatting, inline citation or how to write an article in Wikipedia. Give them a little bit time and not WP:BITE. If an article does not fit CSD or PROD criteria and the article the notability is in question then do a WP:BEFORE and check if the subject meet SSN cafeteria as well prior AfC it.
- Another question: For Part 6, would you like me to participate in 2 AFDs or 5 AFDs? Could you please correct the question? Interstellarity (talk) 16:15, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: My bad, 5 it is. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:20, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Another question: For Part 6, would you like me to participate in 2 AFDs or 5 AFDs? Could you please correct the question? Interstellarity (talk) 16:15, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: @EllenCT: courtesy ping EllenCT here. I saw the message (thank for the his diff), EllenCT is right. Interstelarity, as I have mentioned to you before, do allow the editor at least 3 hours after their articles shown on NPP feed before AfD or R2 them as the editors might still working on the article for not all editors could complete their article in one go/in a few edits since some new editors are not familiar with formatting, inline citation or how to write an article in Wikipedia. Give them a little bit time and not WP:BITE. If an article does not fit CSD or PROD criteria and the article the notability is in question then do a WP:BEFORE and check if the subject meet SSN cafeteria as well prior AfC it.
- @Interstellarity: "unless you do a thorough search of notability and can be confident of the results," I said, as per WP:BEFORE as cited above, parts C and D. EllenCT (talk) 21:11, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I have another question. This one is about Part 7. I was recently told by EllenCT not to nominate AfDs from NPP. This is the message. Is this user correct? If so, where can I find articles that I can nominate for deletion? Interstellarity (talk) 16:08, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity. Restore to this version (left) SEE HERE (LEFT) and copy and paste all your answer from the hist diff from SEE HERE (RIGHT) onward. Visual editor is a great tool but there are bugs and certain things do not work sometimes. I once used Visual editor for redirect and each time after I clicked save, my computer froze up and I had to restart it. I use Visual editor for citation and I have never encounter any problem, so dont use visual basic anything other than citation that would be the save bet until the software teams fix up what is needed. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:51, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I'm using the visual editor while doing my final exam and the source editor when replying to you. However, the visual editor messed up the Filtering - Deletion policy & other alternatives title by duplicating it multiple times (see the table of contents). Can you please fix that? Interstellarity (talk) 20:27, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: I saw the ANI regarding Narayan Rao Tarale that you nominated for A7.
- Note for A7, A9 and A11 "Claimed of signification" - As long as the content states a claim of significant in regardless there is no source provided or the claim might not be true, then A7/A9/A11 does NOT apply. Example: "John Smiths is the US senator who lives in Texas" or " Let's Jump, Let's Dance is ranked #2 in Billboard chart in October 2019" or "DM7-29 is a U.S. self-propelled artillery gun developed in 2010 capable hitting the target of 500 miles" - all these 3 examples do claim of significant and some of them might not even be true and there have no source, but they do not qualify for A7/A9/A11. The option is either to PROP them, do a R2 is no source or to do a WP:BEFORE and if they fails the WP:BEFORE then AfD them. A7 would be something like "John Smiths is my high school teacher, who have a lot of knowledge of algebra" or "The Minnesota Valhalla is the heavy metal band from Minnesota. The band makes up of my brother, Alan, my little sister, Mary and two of my mates, Ken and Jesus. We practice every Monday and Friday at our home garage". Hope this clear up the what A7/A9/A11 is. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:57, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: When I try to nominate an article for PROD with Twinkle, I get this: File:PRODError123.png. I waited a while, but I still have the same screen. Something similar happens with BLPPROD. Do you know why that is? Please make sure that you view the file because I'm going to have an admin delete it soon. Interstellarity (talk) 23:14, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: Pls provide the article name - link here pls.04:03, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I tried it with multiple articles. The same thing happens. Interstellarity (talk) 11:53, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: Pls provide the article names /link pls. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:57, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I tried nominating Ira Ingber for BLPPROD because it is unsourced with Twinkle, but I get a similar message as shown in the image. Interstellarity (talk) 13:13, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity:, I managed to PROP via Twinkle - see HERE. I am not sure why you cant PROD the page - Check with Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) and see if they could help. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:14, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Problem is solved. Interstellarity (talk) 21:44, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: For Part 9, do I need to provide a rationale to why the sources are independent and reliable and have sig coverage? Interstellarity (talk) 18:38, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Yes, you need to provide the reasons. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:55, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I have started on the Article creation. Interstellarity (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Thank you for informing. If you have finished questions but the article then let me know so I could review them as it take a lot of time to do that in one go. By the way, try to find the background info of Barcelos, however, if you can find any then it is OK as he is not a very vocal fighter and besides his fights no much of news talk about him as a fighter. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:38, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I did do everything but the article. You can go ahead and check my answers. Interstellarity (talk) 11:33, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity You have marked reviewed for article above which does not pass GNG and simply just place a tag. What should do instead R2 /AfD /PROD / look for sources (3 independent reliable sources) add them in. Pls review you work again on Part 9. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:57, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA Would you like to review my work for every single article in Part 9? I looked for articles with 3-4 sources and I know the author may have added more sources after I looked at the article. Interstellarity (talk) 21:50, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA Did you forget to answer my question above? Is it unclear to you? Interstellarity (talk) 13:25, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity If the author added additional source, then place the source in the table and indicate if the sources are independent / reliable/significant or not in the table (if this is not what you ask of me, then rephrase it or elaborate further if I have misunderstood you) By the way Part 9 Q4. Since the article is not notable then either to R2/AfD (after a WP:BEFORE), just tagging additinal refs needed will not help as the article is not notable and it will stay in the mainspace for a long time (years) until someone come along and AfD it. Pls do the needful instead just leave it to other to work on it since you have reviewed the article. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA Is it fine to pick new articles if the author added more sources to it? Interstellarity (talk) 13:42, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Since you have already worked on the article, just add additional source info in the table unless the creator has added additional 10+ sources then you could pick a new one. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:46, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA Is it fine to pick new articles if the author added more sources to it? Interstellarity (talk) 13:42, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity If the author added additional source, then place the source in the table and indicate if the sources are independent / reliable/significant or not in the table (if this is not what you ask of me, then rephrase it or elaborate further if I have misunderstood you) By the way Part 9 Q4. Since the article is not notable then either to R2/AfD (after a WP:BEFORE), just tagging additinal refs needed will not help as the article is not notable and it will stay in the mainspace for a long time (years) until someone come along and AfD it. Pls do the needful instead just leave it to other to work on it since you have reviewed the article. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Thank you for informing. If you have finished questions but the article then let me know so I could review them as it take a lot of time to do that in one go. By the way, try to find the background info of Barcelos, however, if you can find any then it is OK as he is not a very vocal fighter and besides his fights no much of news talk about him as a fighter. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:38, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I have started on the Article creation. Interstellarity (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Yes, you need to provide the reasons. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:55, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: For Part 9, do I need to provide a rationale to why the sources are independent and reliable and have sig coverage? Interstellarity (talk) 18:38, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Problem is solved. Interstellarity (talk) 21:44, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity:, I managed to PROP via Twinkle - see HERE. I am not sure why you cant PROD the page - Check with Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) and see if they could help. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:14, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I tried nominating Ira Ingber for BLPPROD because it is unsourced with Twinkle, but I get a similar message as shown in the image. Interstellarity (talk) 13:13, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: Pls provide the article names /link pls. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:57, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: I tried it with multiple articles. The same thing happens. Interstellarity (talk) 11:53, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: Pls provide the article name - link here pls.04:03, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA Is it OK to ask a question here? Interstellarity (talk) 23:43, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity I have given you the rules of thumb on what kind of source or no source and why it could be R2 or you would find independent reliable sources to add them in so the page would be notable which I do that often especially I know the subject is notable but lack of sources/no enough sources and I encourage you to do so. I have also posted the same question a few time regarding what is the different between R2, PROP, AfD and adding sources in the article. The things is you judgement call when there is a few options could be used just like are you going to place a uw-vandal1 warning or uw-biog1 for example "xxx is a gay" warning template when you do counter vandalism work. The question here is that what is R2 is for? why do you want to do a R2? Is the current stage of the article fits in R2 criteria/guidelines? what other options do you have? why you choosing this particular option? It is this option the best judgement call? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:50, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I feel like I've done the necessary work for Part 9. Can you check it please? Interstellarity (talk) 21:13, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Hi I will review Part 9 when Part 10 is done. You have created an article of an MMA fighter before, as such it would be a lot easier the second time. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:16, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I'm current working on the last two sections of the article. Can you check to see how I'm doing on the article please? Interstellarity (talk) 16:36, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Interstellarity Hi, all is good except need 3 more inline citations and I have done some adjustments (see edit summaries on history page). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:59, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hello CASSIOPEIA, I'm going to be busy with school. I'm not quite going to be on wikibreak, but expect me to work on the article slowly. Interstellarity (talk) 12:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I found creating an article to be a little bit easier the second time. The only hard part about creating the article is the Background section of the article. I went through a lot of sources that came up on Google but I couldn't find one that talks about his life in detail. Any tips on how I can find those sources? Interstellarity (talk) 20:25, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity The subject is not very vocal and it would be hard to find info about him. Try your best. I will look for info as well and will forward you the link if I find any. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:39, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA If I can't find any sources relating to his life before his career, is it OK to remove the Background header from the article? Interstellarity (talk) 13:16, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity The subject is not very vocal and it would be hard to find info about him. Try your best. I will look for info as well and will forward you the link if I find any. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:39, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I found creating an article to be a little bit easier the second time. The only hard part about creating the article is the Background section of the article. I went through a lot of sources that came up on Google but I couldn't find one that talks about his life in detail. Any tips on how I can find those sources? Interstellarity (talk) 20:25, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Yes. You may. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:32, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Is the article done? Interstellarity (talk) 13:45, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity source #4 can not be used. The source needed is about the announcement of the bout and not the result of the fight. Source #8 can not be used as it is a sport database info - What we need is independent reliable source. Source# 9 can not be used - it is just a report. We need an article source. Pls find sources and provide the inline citations and ping me when you have done. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:55, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I have changed the sources for the first two. I couldn't find any article sources for the last one, all I get are reports. Can you please check for any sources and see if you get any on your end? Interstellarity (talk) 14:36, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity see here. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA I added a source. Can you check it again? Interstellarity (talk) 15:01, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity see here. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Hi, I have added background, championship section and notes in the fight table, one cancelled bout and etc. You can copy and paste the content to HERE. Once you have done that then tag Db-G7 on the draft page and ping me. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:35, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA
Done Interstellarity (talk) 16:46, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Reviewed. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:19, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA Am I done with the NPPSchool program? If so, can I apply to be an AFC reviewer? Interstellarity (talk) 18:43, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Reviewed. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:19, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA
- Interstellarity Hi, I have yet to finished review the final exam. Pls wait. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:59, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity
Done review. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:23, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- Interstellarity Note: The NPP school graduate user box doesnt turn out right and I am trying to fix it. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:45, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Completion
[edit]Congratulations from both myself and all of the instructors at the New pages patrol School on your successful completion of my NPPSCHOOL instruction! You have now graduated from the New pages patrol School and completed your final exam with 80.5%. Well done!
As a graduate you are entitled to display the following userbox (make sure you replace your enrollee userbox) as well as the graduation message posted on your talk page (this can be treated the same as a barnstar).
{{User NPPSCHOOL/Graduate|graduate}}
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![]() | This user is an NPP SCHOOL graduate. |
@Interstellarity: It's been a real pleasure to work with you over the past few months. I hope you gained something from this course, and if you have any questions, do drop a message on my talk page. Best of luck, and thank you so much for your willingness to help Wikipedia in this role. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:28, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Acknowledgements: I would like to thank CASSIOPEIA and @Mz7:, who have published their training methods on-wiki. I used their materials for your training, with a few minor tweaks. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:42, 19 December 2019 (UTC)