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Latin Europe
Dear CambridgeBayWeather, I am initiating two edits on the article Latin Europe. I would like to add a "[dubious – discuss]" template message to the text "Romance-speaking Europe, the area of Europe where Romance languages are either official, co-official, or significantly used", because no independent source proves the use of the term "Latin Europe" when referring to "Romance-speaking Europe". I also would like to add the next text to the article: "The regions of Europe where Latin developed into various Romance languages". The latter use of the term "Latin Europe" is substantiated by a reliable source cited on the Talk page. I also left a message on my Talk page for you. Thank you for your action in advance. Borsoka (talk) 05:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Borsoka is wrong. There is a source that describes Latin Europe as "the area where Latin developed into the various Romance languages", which is exactly the definition of "Romance-speaking Europe". Plrase don't accept his controversial edit requests 86.127.30.181 (talk) 09:07, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Borsoka is absolutely right. I hope nobody wants OR on Wikipedia. Fakirbakir (talk) 10:44, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Your assertions are absurd. 79.117.165.109 (talk) 10:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Dear Iaasi, do you think that Croatia, Bulgaria and Serbia (which are parts of "Latin Europe", according to the source you cited) belong to "Romance-speaking Europe". Otherwise, I suggest that our debate should be continued on the proper Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 15:27, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Romance-speaking Europe is a dynamic territory, its borders varied over the centuries. Some regions that were part of it in the past are not any more. And some regions that are part of it now, in 2014, will possibly not be in the future. If many Maghrebis will immigrate to France and Arabian will become the main language, it will not be a part of Romance-speaking Europe any more 79.117.188.2 (talk) 15:52, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Dear Iaasi, do you think that Croatia, Bulgaria and Serbia (which are parts of "Latin Europe", according to the source you cited) belong to "Romance-speaking Europe". Otherwise, I suggest that our debate should be continued on the proper Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 15:27, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Your assertions are absurd. 79.117.165.109 (talk) 10:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Borsoka is absolutely right. I hope nobody wants OR on Wikipedia. Fakirbakir (talk) 10:44, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
@Borsoka:, I know nothing about the subject so I can't add the template. If you want that particular edit made then use {{request edit}} on Talk:Latin Europe and perhaps someone who knows about it may reply. To all commenting in this section. The last comment by Borsoka is correct. This discussion should be at the Latin Europe talk page. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 15:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Answered (if you want to call it that) on my talk page. — kwami (talk) 07:04, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Whistler airports mess
I think you do airports, can't remember who else does; this caught my eye for various reasons; maybe you can sort it out, I don't have the patience..... quite often companies use Whistler and related pages for ad-type blurbs, as here,....at least they didn't include phone numbers in this case Talk:Whistler,_British_Columbia#Rotar.3F_-_clutter_and_redundancies.Skookum1 (talk) 04:32, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Mufaddal Saifuddin
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please stop reverting. the matter deletd is libelious and not justifiable to the biography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mufaddalqn (talk • contribs) 11:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
sorry and thanks
i am sorry and thanks for protecting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mufaddalqn (talk • contribs) 11:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
blocks
Why did you block me for twice as long as the other editor over Mint Press News and 3RR. in any case the article will be turned into a piece of white-washing but I give up. wp will be just admins and pov pushers one day, no wonder Eric Corbett despises admins. Sayerslle (talk) 12:58, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
- because I have been blocked before - sounds like punitive and I thought blocks weren't meant to be punitive - anyway just ignore me , i'm fed up with this place. Sayerslle (talk) 16:20, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sayerslle is evading his block and keeps POV pushing in Syria related articles: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/88.104.223.202 FunkMonk (talk) 16:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- I did not evade my block you liar - cambridgebay weather I 100% promise you that, on the bones of st therese of lisieux , who I venerate, though a lapsed Catholic - you are a bloody liar funkmonk. stop stalking me - and pov pushing is you drawing your self-portrait. you are a troll. leave me alone - my edits are subject to the scrutiny of all - I rarely even edit Syrian civil war articles any more so toxic is the pro-assad pov atmosphere - also, as he has been back on my talk page implying I have evaded a block and saying 'we will have to find out' etc in a threatening way is there a way an admin could look at his unhinged and immoderate behavior?- it is very off-putting Sayerslle (talk) 16:42, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Calm down. If it's not you, then great. FunkMonk (talk) 17:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- 'Sayerslle is evading his block' - so you can outright lie, and then say 'calm down' - you are a provocateur and I think an admin should look at your behavior - it is lying and meant to lead to me being blocked - it is meant to intimidate and silence a person who doesn't share your outlook. it is the style of a bullySayerslle (talk) 17:47, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- This from the guy who wrote "fuck off"[1] on my talk page. In any case, the appearance of the IP was suspicious, right after your block, and with the exact same POV pushing tendencies. So of course alarm bells rang. FunkMonk (talk) 17:50, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- yes in 2012, and I got blocked for two months for the expletive - you lying and harassing gets ? nothing I suppose - i'm so sorry I swore in 2012 but then who is perfect? (sorry about this Cambridge bay weather, I shall get off your talk page now)Sayerslle (talk) 21:03, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- I don't mind. Better here than on an article talk page. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 21:08, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- yes in 2012, and I got blocked for two months for the expletive - you lying and harassing gets ? nothing I suppose - i'm so sorry I swore in 2012 but then who is perfect? (sorry about this Cambridge bay weather, I shall get off your talk page now)Sayerslle (talk) 21:03, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- This from the guy who wrote "fuck off"[1] on my talk page. In any case, the appearance of the IP was suspicious, right after your block, and with the exact same POV pushing tendencies. So of course alarm bells rang. FunkMonk (talk) 17:50, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- 'Sayerslle is evading his block' - so you can outright lie, and then say 'calm down' - you are a provocateur and I think an admin should look at your behavior - it is lying and meant to lead to me being blocked - it is meant to intimidate and silence a person who doesn't share your outlook. it is the style of a bullySayerslle (talk) 17:47, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Calm down. If it's not you, then great. FunkMonk (talk) 17:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- I did not evade my block you liar - cambridgebay weather I 100% promise you that, on the bones of st therese of lisieux , who I venerate, though a lapsed Catholic - you are a bloody liar funkmonk. stop stalking me - and pov pushing is you drawing your self-portrait. you are a troll. leave me alone - my edits are subject to the scrutiny of all - I rarely even edit Syrian civil war articles any more so toxic is the pro-assad pov atmosphere - also, as he has been back on my talk page implying I have evaded a block and saying 'we will have to find out' etc in a threatening way is there a way an admin could look at his unhinged and immoderate behavior?- it is very off-putting Sayerslle (talk) 16:42, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
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Cawo
Hi CBD. When you have time to spare, would you mind dropping your two cents in this deletion discussion? It's over a project page. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- No prob. Middayexpress (talk) 14:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thanks a lot for clearing out the recent backlog at RFPP and also for completing my request :) A job well done! Regards. -TheGeneralUser (talk) 17:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC) |
LASIK page protection
The article keeps getting vandalized... isn't there something to be done? Lesion (talk) 20:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for having another look anyways. Lesion (talk) 20:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Alicia Keys
Did you meant semi-protection, right?. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 02:21, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Power Distribution Unit
Hi CambridgeBayWeather, The user Voidxor is reverting what I consider to be valid content on the Power Distribution Unit article. And you have since blocked edits to the page for what Voidxor calls persistent vandalism. If I can understand the reasons then I can rectify the perceived problem but to just keep reverting valid edits is just plain wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.179.241 (talk) 15:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Please take it to the talk page for the article. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Chris Babb
Hi, could you please have a look at this AfD and have it closed as speedy keep. Chris Babb has played for the Boston Celtics and therefore meets WP:NBASKETBALL, which was originally the issue. Thank you. DaHuzyBru (talk) 00:06, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Your comments
You made some comments on the GNWT DOT page and asked a couple of questions to which I can reply.
The Canol Road was never part of the NWT Highway system. However, there is historical interest in the road, so I agree with your edit.
The Hay River Reserve does have an all-weather road. The Bureau of Stats summary is in error.
Will take your advice on a user name. GNWT DOT (talk) 23:33, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Canol Road
Canol Road is a heritage trail, not suitable for vehicles but used by snowmobiles in winter. It's not a highway - at best it's a goat trail. GNWT DOT (talk) 21:52, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Steve Stockman
Tillman54, Famspear, and their cohorts have managed to engaged in bias, malicious misstatement and removal of objective content on this page. They have also successfully managed to have Steve Stockman page blocked from objective editing by having any editor who puts objective content be called a sock puppet and blocked. If Tillman54, Famspear and their cohorts hate Steve Stockman they should not be given a free hand for editing this page based on their subjective bias and lock everyone from editing this page. Please remove the protection on this page and open this page for everyone to edit. Thanks Aflac123 (talk) 06:47, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- No. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive196#Steve Stockman. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 06:51, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
FYI, this is an NTSAMR spambot. INeverCry 20:09, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey, grew up in the Arctic (Resolute and points south) and I've seen and admired your handiwork all over Wikipedia. Just wanted to say "Keep up the good work", and thank you for the Inukness video. Cheers! - Courtney, who forgot his login info a couple of years back — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.161.193.239 (talk) 02:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words. By the way Ozzie is still up in Resolute. Talk to him a few times a year on the phone for work but never actually met him. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 10:20, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Aziz? Know him well - he used to work for my dad, and married the woman my Inuk sister is named after... and HER family is practically, well, family. They lost a grandkid on his crashed charter, the one that Marty Bergmann was on... sad all round. - CW — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.161.193.239 (talk) 03:23, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yep that was pretty bad. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 13:29, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protection
Hi Cambridge, can you kindly semi-protect my user page? I would like to edit it directly for a while :) No need to change move protection though as that's alright. -TheGeneralUser (talk) 16:58, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Softu
HI CBD. Per the agreement here, could you perhaps merge the Softu page's history into the Suftu title? The merge tag is already in place. Best, Middayexpress (talk) 15:27, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your efforts CBD. Although I initially proposed "Softu", the agreement in the end was to title it "Suftu". No big deal though; I already moved it to that title. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 17:13, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Dewcell
Hi,
I think I left you my message in the wrong talk page. I did the cropping. If you don't find a better image, the cropped image will do fine. Thanks. Pierre cb (talk) 22:11, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the images. They are great! However the renaming of the article is wrong. According to the World Meteorological Organisation the correct name is Dewcell, with two "L". Here are references : from WMO and Eumetcal and from the Canadian government Translation Bureau. Could you ask the administrator to reverse your renaming the article in English and your category in Commons? Pierre cb (talk) 11:37, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- OK. Very confusing when the WMO says one thing and EC another! Sorry to cause you this problem. Pierre cb (talk) 16:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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PMPF
Hi CBD. There is a new account who has been removing material on Puntland Maritime Police Force, which indicates that the European Union will begin training the PMPF. The account was registered a few hours after I first added the material. He/she claims that the EU is only slated to train the Bosaso Port Police, although neither the EU press release on the agreement nor the media indicate this. The user asserts that he/she is privy to this unreleased information because he/she works with the EU ("My name is Sonia Khoudja and I am working with EUCAP Nestor since September 2013" [2]). I've asked the user to confirm his/her credentials and they've agreed. Can you please help them with this? Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 14:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Columbia Kingsmen
Thanks for the clarification. So would it be possible for me to create a new page using proper citations and references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dkronaizl1 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 5 December 2011
Please stop reverting
Hi CambridgeBayWeather,
Please can you stop reverting the article named "Khawaja" to previous edit versions. I have removed the origins passage due to very poor citation. It is better that nothing is posted than something that is unverifiable true or not. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.149.68 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 11 December 2011
Need Help
User:CambridgeBayWeather hello h r u i need ur help in of the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooth (talk • contribs) 00:24, 1 July 2012
need help
Mirani tribe it contains wrong information and ihave correct it many times but some anonamous person keep change it with wrong information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooth (talk • contribs) 00:29, 1 July 2012
thank you
thanks i will do tht thank u once again i will — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooth (talk • contribs) 00:50, 1 July 2012
Hello MR Cambridge Bay Wheather
hi i having problems with Mirani Tribe site contain wrong information as u advise me to put decision i m failed to do so because im faceing problem how to do it. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Mirani_tribe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooth (talk • contribs) 19:42, 7 July 2012
thank u
thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooth (talk • contribs) 19:42, 7 July 2012
Unidentified aircraft
Hi there ycbwx!! Arrived in yellowknife after a long day. A great shot of our super be90a!! We visited 3diamond mines and inspected yco airport to boot. Very nice to visit and meet with you. I have some good shots of Hope Bay and will forward some to you after I get home and do some processing. Take care. . Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timkal (talk • contribs) 05:17, 14 July 2012
He is kind of a big deal now. I'm going to assume that it is cool to remake the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisvanlang (talk • contribs) 11:43, 22 September 2012
Need help - article "Snow Fort"
Please, restore the infomation, which you deleted. But rename "Russia" to "Construction method". Best regards, Artem adgabyshev@rosneft.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.142.135.14 (talk • contribs) 05:55, 12 November 2013
Asiagmiut
If the locations in Asiagmiut don't seem to work, would you please fix or let me know? The area seems a bit expansive but I'm guessing summering and wintering locations are included. Also, is it appropriate to refer to the Asiagmiut in the present-day "are" vs. "were"? --Rosiestep (talk) 19:54, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Image inclusion
I had uploaded image of Deepak Acharya but it has been removed, please do the needful. Deepak Acharya. This image is taken from his facebook account and also I had a word with him regarding uploading of the same at Wiki, he is okay with it. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasdrbheel (talk • contribs) 07:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Zwanzig 20
Zwanzig's comments are getting more problematic.[3] Edward321 (talk) 23:38, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Something strange
Twice now Nick Vujicic has had its contents overwritten with your user page, the second time[4] after a 12 hour block because of the first time.[5] If it's vandalism it seems rather a strange form of it (but I don't tend to get involved in this sort of bother). Thincat (talk) 13:21, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
A different IP, but also in Vietnam, has done this again but someone else has already reverted. You must have friends in strange places! I'm going to take this off my watch list. Thincat (talk) 09:26, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Barbara Wardlaw
No worries, nobody can be expected to know everything. That said, to be perfectly honest I'm actually far from convinced that she actually needs her own standalone BLP in the first place, given how weak the sourcing is. Bearcat (talk) 19:09, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
you are a big bully and you're not a nice man — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.69.11.233 (talk) 07:23, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
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Language naming conventions
Sorry, but new conventions are worked out on the talk page. Someone proposes a change of wording, we discuss modifications of that wording, etc. A consensus is not someone proposes a change, others object, and then after a week the first says, okay, it's been a week, I'll do what I want. This is especially the case when changing wording that was added to the guideline years ago to avoid problem that we'd been having. I'm sympathetic to some of the suggested changes, but we shouldn't discuss it by reverting each other in the guideline. Until we actually reach consensus on the talk page, we keep the guideline where it was. So far we haven't even had a serious discussion. — kwami (talk) 07:44, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, we have, but you're not taking us seriously and expecting us to take you seriously. You are openly hostile against the old consensus that was around before your rewrite of NCL came along, and which is the "new" consensus that the rest of us see, a good eight dozen or more RMs have proven, that TITLE and PRIMARYTOPIC and more call for. At this point, given POLICY overriding non-consensus, your ongoing fallacies and pretense that this is not a "serious discussion" all in the category of absurdity.Skookum1 (talk) 07:48, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- " A consensus is not someone proposes a change, others object, and then after a week the first says, okay, it's been a week, I'll do what I want." is exactly what you did on the NCL talkpage to "mandate" the change you made; nobody objected (as there was really nobody around) so you went ahead and did it; kind of like taking a chat with yourself in the bathroom, calling it consensus, and going out to rearrange the dinner table with dirty hands because you had a "consensus of one".Skookum1 (talk) 07:50, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Kwamikagami, the consensus was reached and nobody objected to the wording proposed by Cuchullain (talk · contribs). You did not try to discuss or propose any modification of the wording. All you have done is attempted to stonewall the discussion with Wikipedia:I just don't like it. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 08:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Cuchullain made proposals, and I objected to them, as did others. You need to watch your assumptions of bad faith: Just because I disagree with you on something, that doesn't mean I'm out to sabotage things. Surely you've been around long enough to know that? Your observation that no-one objected and that consensus was reached evidently wasn't on the talk page I was watching. My objection is the same objection at least four other people have made: We don't want to go back to the days of debating PRIMARYTOPIC for all 7,000 ethno-linguistic names. — kwami (talk) 08:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Please revert yourself so we don't have to go to ANI over this. Two editors, Cuchullain, & Hunter were for the changes, everyone else was against at least the wording they used. That's not consensus. They should propose the change in wording, and then discuss the problems with that wording. That's how it works here. — kwami (talk) 08:15, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- (ec) You suggesting that Skookum1 is trolling talk pages isn't in good faith either. Everyone else was against the wording? Everyone else who? Both Skookum1 and I were not against his changes. And exactly what do you want me to revert? This? You want to take it to ANI that's up to you. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 08:23, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- I wasn't talking about you, obviously, since I'm addressing you. (As for Skookum, that's because he does not edit in good faith. He's been brought up before ANI multiple times for it; people have tried mentoring him and thrown up their hands in dispair. It's a shame, because he used to be a good editor.) The problem with the wording is that it will encourage edit warring over article names. We had this problem years ago, and adjusted the naming convention accordingly. This has been pointed out several time, yet those objections were dismissed with the sophistical argument that if we don't want to waste our time with debating it, we should just sit it out and not care what happens. That's not consensus. — kwami (talk) 19:41, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- I won't bother responding to your misrepresentation of "multiple times" or your other provocations, here (though do have to wonder for what reason you were stripped of your adminship), and moving my other post up here where it is entirely suitable to describe your post:
- The game is WP:BAITing, CBW, it was called on him during the St'at'imc/Ktunaxa etc RMs last year where he was similarly obstructionist and illogical, about trying to get me hot and bothered so he can enjoy another ANI about me while he goes unscathed. Familiar pattern.Skookum1 (talk) 08:49, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- I won't bother responding to your misrepresentation of "multiple times" or your other provocations, here (though do have to wonder for what reason you were stripped of your adminship), and moving my other post up here where it is entirely suitable to describe your post:
- I wasn't talking about you, obviously, since I'm addressing you. (As for Skookum, that's because he does not edit in good faith. He's been brought up before ANI multiple times for it; people have tried mentoring him and thrown up their hands in dispair. It's a shame, because he used to be a good editor.) The problem with the wording is that it will encourage edit warring over article names. We had this problem years ago, and adjusted the naming convention accordingly. This has been pointed out several time, yet those objections were dismissed with the sophistical argument that if we don't want to waste our time with debating it, we should just sit it out and not care what happens. That's not consensus. — kwami (talk) 19:41, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- (ec) You suggesting that Skookum1 is trolling talk pages isn't in good faith either. Everyone else was against the wording? Everyone else who? Both Skookum1 and I were not against his changes. And exactly what do you want me to revert? This? You want to take it to ANI that's up to you. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 08:23, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- [post edit-conflict] Revert myself?? Get a grip. Your claim that Cuchullain and JHunterJ support your latest reversion to the "earliest stable version", which is to say the wrong version, very different than the one that Cuchullain made and you reverted, is just more mispresentation and confoundment;
- (re debating PRIMARTYOPIC for all ethnolinguistic names, post edit conflict] We don't have to, the original/renewed consensus that your handiwork has tried to override (and been thwarted and reverted, though so far not completely) already has it that peoples are the PRIMARYTOPIC of their names and that languages aren't. As for bad faith, your various putdown comments pale in comparison to your persistent misrepresentations and attempts to confound what others have said with nonsense is very bad faith in nature; as were all your knee-jerk "oppose" votes on the RMs you failed to shut down or stop. "Consensus evidently wasn't on the talkpage I was watching" is quite the claim, given you are outnumbered and POLICY has been quoted against your position, and there's that curious use of "consensus" to mean "not if I disagree". You do not have a veto, and your preferences can NOT override POLICY or stats/sources/googles. You have also YET to provide a source for your mantra that languages and peoples who speak them are necessarily parallel primarytopics. What part of the vast "literature" that you claim to have read so much of is that in? Publication, page, author?? Or is it just something you concocted yourself? It's certainly nothing an ethnographer or other kind of academic or layman would ever think or come up with, or attempt to enforce as you have been doing. Bad faith? No, staring evidence in the face and pointing out when someone/something just doesn't make sense. "Consensus" sooner or later boils down to logic and evidence. You have been demonstrating neither, and right now it's between you vs JHunterJ, CBW, Cuchullain and myself (unless Lfdder would consider himself to be in your camp, seems more like he just wants to compromise but IMO he doesn't really get the consequences of the status quo here, which is contrary to TITLE and a host of other policies and guidelines.Skookum1 (talk) 08:20, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Kwamikagami, the consensus was reached and nobody objected to the wording proposed by Cuchullain (talk · contribs). You did not try to discuss or propose any modification of the wording. All you have done is attempted to stonewall the discussion with Wikipedia:I just don't like it. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 08:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- " A consensus is not someone proposes a change, others object, and then after a week the first says, okay, it's been a week, I'll do what I want." is exactly what you did on the NCL talkpage to "mandate" the change you made; nobody objected (as there was really nobody around) so you went ahead and did it; kind of like taking a chat with yourself in the bathroom, calling it consensus, and going out to rearrange the dinner table with dirty hands because you had a "consensus of one".Skookum1 (talk) 07:50, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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Alberta community article moves
Will you be following up all these moves by visiting all articles that link to these to bypass the redirects? I will do the templates and the articles I know where content is transcluded, but I am exhausted from doing it all (refer to my last couple thousand contributions). Hwy43 (talk) 21:30, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'm working off of {{Subdivisions of Alberta}} so I'll update that as I finish. I always check for double redirects and fix them. As for the redirects in other articles Wikipedia:Redirect#Do not "fix" links to redirects that are not broken applies. I might be tempted to do it if it was allowed with WP:AWB. The only time I "fix" redirects is if I am making other edits to an article. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 22:10, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Had not seen WP:NOTBROKEN before. It appears to conflict with the message I recall that appears after a page move about what needs to/should be done after a successful page move. I may just do them anyway, but not immediately. Hwy43 (talk) 01:13, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- I just moved about 25 municipal district articles. Turns out the notice after a page move does not suggest avoiding all redirects. I guess I picked up the habit by watching others avoid all redirects after their page moves. Hwy43 (talk) 07:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Just looked into Brûlé. The official name of this hamlet, according to Alberta Municipal Affairs as well as the hamlet's administering Yellowhead County (see [6] and [7]), actually excludes the diacritics. I just tried to move it to Brule but a redirect is in the way.
Can you delete the redirect and move it to its proper title on my behalf?Hwy43 (talk) 01:13, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Just looked into Brûlé. The official name of this hamlet, according to Alberta Municipal Affairs as well as the hamlet's administering Yellowhead County (see [6] and [7]), actually excludes the diacritics. I just tried to move it to Brule but a redirect is in the way.
- Crap. Brule is a dab, not a redirect. Therefore, please move it over the Brule, Alberta redirect. It needs disambiguation. Hwy43 (talk) 01:16, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Done. And fixed the article at the same time. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 02:47, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- The bot caught a bracket error and when I went to fix it I saw that the 2011 census figures were odd. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 03:01, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Not sure if you saw the following from WP:CANLIST: "Articles on unincorporated communities (e.g. hamlets, former municipalities, etc.) can be listed here if they were subject to a move proposal and discussion pursuant to WP:CANSTYLE." Your moves of Alberta hamlets may be met with opposition because of this. If no opposition arises, we should consider striking that sentence from WP:CANLIST. Hwy43 (talk) 03:58, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- I missed that. Also I just assumed that like Nunavut and the Northwest Territories hamlets were incorporated. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 04:42, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I missed the same until a couple hours ago. Hwy43 (talk) 05:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Never noticed that either. Interesting. Mind you, there is no real need to do anything about it, since CANLIST is not a policy nor a guideline (which presumably explains why nobody has noticed this sentence). It was an internal list started, frankly, just to keep track of what had been moved, and that sentence might even date back to earlier versions of CANSTYLE (I'm guessing).--Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:40, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- It was added a while ago. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 17:23, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- That made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that. "Who is the nitwit who added that sentence?" The nitwit is me. Yes, given the date it was tied to older versions of CANSTYLE. I am not the authority. Feel free to delete. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:39, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- It was added a while ago. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 17:23, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- Never noticed that either. Interesting. Mind you, there is no real need to do anything about it, since CANLIST is not a policy nor a guideline (which presumably explains why nobody has noticed this sentence). It was an internal list started, frankly, just to keep track of what had been moved, and that sentence might even date back to earlier versions of CANSTYLE (I'm guessing).--Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:40, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I missed the same until a couple hours ago. Hwy43 (talk) 05:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Delete sandbox redirect in article space
Hi CBW, can you do me a favour and delete the List of municipalities in Quebec/sandbox redirect please? I accidentally created it in article space. I've since moved it to Talk:List of municipalities in Quebec/sandbox. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 17:46, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- I deleted and restored the wrong page but I think I got the right one in the end. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 17:56, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Hwy43 (talk) 18:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Talk page semiprotect
Could I trouble you to apply semiprotection to my user talk page for a bit? The User:Catcreekcitycouncil socks continue and have started reverting my own edits there. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Response to question
- I left this note in response to your question put to RadioKOAS. Feel free to erase, of course. I hope this is helpful.
My knowledge of Inupiaq is rather limited, but place names are often portmanteau words. I believe the ending "vik" or "vuk" refers to a place or direction. Ukpiaġvik is the place (Barrow) to hunt snowy owls. Kaktovik (on Barter Island) is the place of seine fishing. Anaktuvuk is the place of caribou droppings, and "anak" (prounounced "uhn-uck") refers to any excrement, the "tu" is from "tuttu" (caribou). I don't know what "anik" means; it might mean sister or brother. The name for fermented seal flippers is "utruk," I think. There are different dialects in Alaska, mostly divided by the North Slope and Kobuk river. Anaktuvuk is where the mountain Inupiat live. I was surprised to hear the difference in the pronunciation of word for the Kivgik festival, for instance, with the North Slope dialect compared to those coming from Kivilina. I think that generally the people from the northern tip of Greenland southwest to Unalakleet can understand each other more easily than Spanish speakers can understand Portuguese. Activist (talk) 21:04, 16 May 2014 (UTC) Thanks. That did help. I've replied at User talk:RadioKAOS. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 22:11, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
- You know far more about this than me. My info is very sketchy compared to yours. Activist (talk) 05:57, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- My knowledge is only over a small area. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 15:35, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Request on Protected DVB-T2 article
I told you once to stop making attacks on others. Also giving me a bunch of material that was taken from another language (Italian?) Wikipedia is a waste of time. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 14:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Semiprotection
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Filiberto Ojeda Ríos Dispute Resolution for NPOV issue, multiple editors
The Filiberto Ojeda Ríos article has attracted a group of editors who are interested in independence for Puerto Rico, a territory of the United States. Rios was an independence leader who organized FALN, a group that used violence (bombings primarily) to bring about Puerto Rican independence. The resulting article has been a love letter to Rios who was killed trying to resist arrest in Puerto Rico. I believe FALN killed/blew up 6 people total during the short period it was active. The article is tagged and somewhat improved (e.g., his nationality is no longer listed as Puerto Rican). Other related articles like Oscar Lopez Rivera show a similar bias. The Rivera article is the subject of a request for mediation.[8]. None of the pro independence editors have chosen to participate as of yet. Most of the associated FALN biographies were showing them to be Puerto Rican nationals with the Puerto Rican independence flag prominently displayed. [9] Lately, editors have been more insistent that the articles be neutral but these changes are eventually reverted. Question: Which dispute resolution is most appropriate for resolving conflicts involving a group of editors across a series of articles? My guess is neutrality notice board but I have never found the notice boards to be good for anything except added venom to the same stalled talk page discussions.Eudemis (talk) 23:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
citation spam?
Would you please take a look at [10] and let me know what you think? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 13:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- I also discovered that a couple of IPs were working with the account. Anyway, I've given an only warning to the account and reverted almost all. Dougweller (talk) 18:50, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Request for comment
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
You wrong
Refers to Template_talk:Weather_box#Separate_templates. For example, see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Subtropical-man/Pornographic actresses. I create page of User:Subtropical-man/Pornographic actresses with data from existing and removed articles and I was accused of violating the license, see quote: "The cut-and-paste copying removes the edit history, so the CC-licensing attribution requirement is violated." In the past, I also must respect this against my will but other users were right. I do not care Sydney and several other, this must be done in accordance with the requirements of rules of Wikipedia and standards of Wikipedia and licensing of Wikipedia. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 20:35, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
By the way, I'm author of very many weatherboxes in very many articles, I do not give rights to any uses method of "cut-and-paste" without giving the author (according to the CC-licensing). Cut-and-paste - ok, but with information about authors or link to original page. So. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 20:44, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- That's a different issue. The material in this case is not lost or deleted. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 21:38, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Subtropical-man: "You have much to learn, young padawan".
- @CambridgeBayWeather: I think it's time to apply indefinite semi-protection to the rest of the major U.S. city weatherboxes titled in the format Template:City weatherbox (Anchorage, Atlanta, Austin, Bismarck, North Dakota, Charlotte, Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Grand Forks, North Dakota, Hampton Roads, Houston, Jacksonville, Key West, Los Angeles, Louisville, Memphis, Miami, Minneapolis, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Quad Cities, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, St. Louis, Washington, D.C., and Yuma, Arizona). As you know normals are only released once every decade and once the data has been corrected/updated, there is no reason (except for the extremely rare fall of a monthly record high/low) for this data to be edited. Your thoughts? "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 23:00, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Semi-protection is usually only used on highly visible templates. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 05:35, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Arguably, most if not all of these cities are highly visible, so there's little reason to believe the templates transcluded on them aren't. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 14:51, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'm just not sure that they meet the criteria at Wikipedia:Protection policy#Template protection. You should put a request in at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection and get a second opinion. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 15:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'd rather ask at the WProj Meteorology where there are users more competent/well-versed in that subject matter; it should be fair to say the average admin is not. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 15:30, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- That's fine too. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 15:46, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'd rather ask at the WProj Meteorology where there are users more competent/well-versed in that subject matter; it should be fair to say the average admin is not. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 15:30, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'm just not sure that they meet the criteria at Wikipedia:Protection policy#Template protection. You should put a request in at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection and get a second opinion. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 15:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Arguably, most if not all of these cities are highly visible, so there's little reason to believe the templates transcluded on them aren't. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 14:51, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Semi-protection is usually only used on highly visible templates. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 05:35, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Lieutenant of Melkor: - and vice versa, "young padawan, but you still have much to learn". Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 14:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)- @Subtropical-man: that's not how "vice versa" is to be used. In any case, you don't know how old I am and you should brush up on your English for a few years before antagonising and confusing others. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 15:02, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Lieutenant of Melkor:, also you don't know how old I am. You wasted my weekend, by your stubbornness and unacquaintance of the license and principles of Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not work like that do you what you want and you have in ass of other users. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 15:26, 26 May 2014 (UTC) - PS. you born in July 1993 in Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S. (you are only 21 years) and you're fan of Tolkien, hahaha. See your user page and your nick ;) You are still a child. As you complete 21 years, you can buy a beer in store ;) Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 16:02, 26 May 2014 (UTC)- @Subtropical-man: I was simply going about my own business creating those templates before you came along and started asking inquiries. YOU and you alone were the reason for this mess. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 15:30, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Lieutenant of Melkor:, yes - I'm sorry that I have seen breaking the rules and I reacted. You just quietly stealing the work of other users. You just you've made dozens of changes in dozens of articles without consensus. I'm sorry that I reacted. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 15:39, 26 May 2014 (UTC)- @Subtropical-man: As CambridgeBayWeather and I have established, THERE HAS BEEN NO
stealing the work of other users
, PERIOD. I don't know where you learned your reasoning, but you need to set that straight. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 15:41, 26 May 2014 (UTC)- @Lieutenant of Melkor:, the discussion clearly shows that CambridgeBayWeather did not know the rules relative to this case. I had to use a quotation. Well, everyone is entitled to an error. I was right, "you must link to the source article in your edit summary". Second case: if you want to make dozens of changes in dozens of articles, discussion and consensus first. According to the Wikipedia:CYCLE, everyone can shift back your new changes and wait for discussion and consensus. Please do not argue with me and principles of Wikipedia, respect other users and the principles of Wikipedia. That's all, bye. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 15:52, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Lieutenant of Melkor:, the discussion clearly shows that CambridgeBayWeather did not know the rules relative to this case. I had to use a quotation. Well, everyone is entitled to an error. I was right, "you must link to the source article in your edit summary". Second case: if you want to make dozens of changes in dozens of articles, discussion and consensus first. According to the Wikipedia:CYCLE, everyone can shift back your new changes and wait for discussion and consensus. Please do not argue with me and principles of Wikipedia, respect other users and the principles of Wikipedia. That's all, bye. Subtropical-man talk
- @Subtropical-man: As CambridgeBayWeather and I have established, THERE HAS BEEN NO
- @Lieutenant of Melkor:, yes - I'm sorry that I have seen breaking the rules and I reacted. You just quietly stealing the work of other users. You just you've made dozens of changes in dozens of articles without consensus. I'm sorry that I reacted. Subtropical-man talk
- @Subtropical-man: I was simply going about my own business creating those templates before you came along and started asking inquiries. YOU and you alone were the reason for this mess. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 15:30, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Lieutenant of Melkor:, also you don't know how old I am. You wasted my weekend, by your stubbornness and unacquaintance of the license and principles of Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not work like that do you what you want and you have in ass of other users. Subtropical-man talk
- @Subtropical-man: that's not how "vice versa" is to be used. In any case, you don't know how old I am and you should brush up on your English for a few years before antagonising and confusing others. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 15:02, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Lieutenant of Melkor: - and vice versa, "young padawan, but you still have much to learn". Subtropical-man talk
- @Subtropical-man:. (ec) Lieutenant of Melkor can make changes to dozens of articles without gaining consensus. I just made changes to multiple airports in the UK and every 56 days (or so) I make changes to multiple airports in Canada. I don't ask if that can be done I just do it as per WP:BOLD. You are over blowing this. It would be a problem if material was removed but it isn't. It is just presented in a different way. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 16:12, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @CambridgeBayWeather: - I do not know the matter of airports in the UK. But, changes by Lieutenant of Melkor were considered as bad and asked to discuss according to the Wikipedia:CYCLE: bold edit, revert = discuss. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 16:16, 26 May 2014 (UTC) - PS. your changes in articles about airports [11] are small changes and are not in any way controversial. In this case, the situation is different. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 16:44, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @CambridgeBayWeather: - I do not know the matter of airports in the UK. But, changes by Lieutenant of Melkor were considered as bad and asked to discuss according to the Wikipedia:CYCLE: bold edit, revert = discuss. Subtropical-man talk
- @Subtropical-man:. (ec) Lieutenant of Melkor can make changes to dozens of articles without gaining consensus. I just made changes to multiple airports in the UK and every 56 days (or so) I make changes to multiple airports in Canada. I don't ask if that can be done I just do it as per WP:BOLD. You are over blowing this. It would be a problem if material was removed but it isn't. It is just presented in a different way. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 16:12, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
@Subtropical-man: The rest of the encyclopaedia has no qualms with presenting data in a different way
, only you do. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 16:30, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
@CambridgeBayWeather:, See: blind reverts, blind edit war by Lieutenant of Melkor [12]. So? Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 16:20, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
You are both edit warring. So I either block both of you or protect the page. So I protected the page. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 16:26, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @CambridgeBayWeather:, the original protection settings will be restored when full protection expires, correct? "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 16:30, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @CambridgeBayWeather:, Lieutenant of Melkor still not use describe the changes (source article), still create new templates despite requests for a discussion, introduces pastels colours to templates despite consensus say: for Average high - red colour, for Average low - violet colour. This is deliberate destructive actions, breaking the rules of Wikipedia, for example Wikipedia:COPYPASTE, Wikipedia:CYCLE, Wikipedia:Edit warring, Wikipedia:Consensus. Maybe you support the idea of separate weatherboxes but you should react to the outrageous behavior by user Lieutenant of Melkor. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 16:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @CambridgeBayWeather:, Lieutenant of Melkor still not use describe the changes (source article), still create new templates despite requests for a discussion, introduces pastels colours to templates despite consensus say: for Average high - red colour, for Average low - violet colour. This is deliberate destructive actions, breaking the rules of Wikipedia, for example Wikipedia:COPYPASTE, Wikipedia:CYCLE, Wikipedia:Edit warring, Wikipedia:Consensus. Maybe you support the idea of separate weatherboxes but you should react to the outrageous behavior by user Lieutenant of Melkor. Subtropical-man talk
- @Lieutenant of Melkor:. I think not. It will probably require reprotecting.
- @Subtropical-man:. I'm not convinced that there is consensus for a single colour type throughout Wikipedia. As to the copyright thing I've asked for another opinion. Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems#Should a different presentation of material have a link?. As to being for or against the separate weatherboxes I have no real opinion at the moment. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 16:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
You were correct about {{San Juan, Puerto Rico weatherbox}}'s previous protection level expiring. Could you re-apply it? "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 20:52, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Hiyob346
Hi CBD. User:Hiyob346 has been rampaging with another sock [13]. Same edits, same pages, same incorrigible attitude. He's also edit warring on my userpage despite WP:HUSH. Can you please have a look? Best, Middayexpress (talk) 17:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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Philippine Airport Vandal
Hi! The Philippine Airport Vandal has been so broad that I haven't bothered you about him. But now it seems there are two articles that have seen very little legitimate activity beside this vandal: Beijing Capital International Airport and Incheon International Airport. HkCaGu (talk) 15:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
India Statistics Vandal
Hello CBW! The India Statistics Vandal is becoming too persistent, and I could use your help again. Can you protect Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport and Abu Dhabi International Airport for now! There are probably more coming along. Last time the 1- and 3-month blocks really worked to prevent vandalism. Thanks! HkCaGu (talk) 16:54, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Morning! I'm now seeing the vandal also targeting Denver International Airport for a while, and now from a new IP heading but still India. HkCaGu (talk) 13:57, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Another two articles getting repeatedly vandalized: Operations and Infrastructure of Kuala Lumpur International Airport and Kuala Lumpur International Airport . HkCaGu (talk) 23:26, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Here's another one: Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport. About three times in the last month. HkCaGu (talk) 17:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Now Suvarnabhumi Airport qualifies for the frequently-vandalized list, I think. HkCaGu (talk) 16:42, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- Here's another one: Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport. About three times in the last month. HkCaGu (talk) 17:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Another two articles getting repeatedly vandalized: Operations and Infrastructure of Kuala Lumpur International Airport and Kuala Lumpur International Airport . HkCaGu (talk) 23:26, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Please protect Indira Gandhi International Airport, Rajiv Gandhi International Airport and Kempegowda International Airport. This IP is on a vandalism spree. — LeoFrank Talk 12:54, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
- These three articles are on their frequent hit list. — LeoFrank Talk 13:00, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Grand Restaurant Karel V
Could you remove the protection please? A request for protection from an uncivil and abusive edit warrior who has not been editing constructively should be given short shift. You should also note that the only revisions since 4pm yesterday have been from Banner himself—breaching 4RR in the process—whose attitude on the talk page is unhelpful. His claim that erroneous information was introduced in the recent editing is mendacious to say the least, and I am a little surprised to see protection given to the page when the perpetrator of the problems is the one who has requested the protection. A warning—possibly even involving some form of censure—to Banner for his obstructive attitude, incivility, ownership issues, and edit warring past 4RR would have been far more constructive and applicable here. - SchroCat (talk) 12:43, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
- I could but then I suspect the edit war would restart. If that happens then the editors involved at that point would probably end up getting blocked. And I dislike blocking when all editors are working for the best of Wikipedia. It really won't hurt if there are too many references in the article for a week while it is sorted. On the other hand I could be in error and I don't mind if you get a second opinion from another admin. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 12:53, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
- SchroCat conveniently forgets to mention prior dealings. And what happens on the talk page of Karel V is the same steam rolling behaviour as earlier. With the earlier attempts to get me blocked, the effect is quite chilling... The Banner talk 14:10, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks: it's nice to know the "blue line" of 3RR isn't as blue as it's made out to be, and that an editor who indulges in templating me with a string of four messages on my talk page (big shout of "harassment" all round), incivility in calling me "a henchman", and an accusation of tag teaming can get away with his request for page protection made on the basis of a lie, without even a word to him for his behaviour. Yes, you are in error on this occasion, but an admin who admits to a mistake is a rare and precious beast (especially less than two minutes looking into the situation), and I doubt I've found one here. - SchroCat (talk) 12:59, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Not sure why you've protected it under " Addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content " Quite the opposite. The dispute is over the excessive number of citations which violates Wikipedia:Citation overkill which was originally seven now five and it's currently locked in the version with the excessive citations.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:04, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
- Many thanks for unlocking the article: it is much appreciated - SchroCat (talk) 13:25, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
You better take a look at the article again. As every time when I have a disagreement with Dr. Blofield, a whole bunch of his friends join in to destroy the article. Even when Dr. Blofield and me are already working together to improve the article. To me, it is a case of steam rolling and tag teaming. The Banner talk 21:36, 22 June 2014 (UTC)