User:Balloonman/CSD Survey/3.8
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Original Article
[edit]"Pastor S. M. Smith"
Pastor S. M. Smith is the pastor and founder of Acts Gospel Mission Orthodox Pentecostal Church Incorporated located in Charleston, South Carolina. Pastor Smith was also the Republican nominee for South Carolina's State House district 109 in the 2008 general election.
Nomination Criteria
[edit]A7
An article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from questions of verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. A7 applies only to articles about web content or articles on people and organizations themselves, not articles on their books, albums, software and so on. Other article types, including school articles, are not eligible for deletion by this criterion. If controversial, as with schools, list the article at articles for deletion instead.
Deletion Options
[edit]| rationale | Count | Percent |
|---|---|---|
| Agree with ratioinale to speedy delete. | 10 | 16.9 |
| Disagree with rationale, but deletable by other criteria. | 1 | 1.7 |
| Disagree with rationale, but this is a case where IAR applies. | 0 | 0 |
| Disagree with speedy deletion article makes two claims to notability (the founder of a church and a polician) Will probably be deleted via AfD, but this is enough to keep it. | 48 | 81.4 |
Survey Comments
[edit]| Common rationale | Count |
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| AFD | 1 |
- consensus has shown that defeated candidates are generally not notable
- This will cause much disagreement amongst survey participants, I expect - Fritz
- Makes claim of notability. Send to AfD.
- what is notability on losing candidates?
- Borderline, but I'd go for PROD/AFD here. No massive claim to notability, but better to err on the safe side
- Prod., claim to notability--definitely not enough, but its a claim, Blatant error.
- A7, neither founding a church nor being a small-time politician is a claim to any especial significance.
- Possibly notable. AfD rather than prod, difficult name to Google so more eyes needed.
Balloonman's analysis
[edit]A7 is wrong as A7 only applies to an article that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. To avoid the fate of CSD, the article only has to make a claim to importance/significance, it does not have to prove notability. Send the article to AfD where it will be deleted or where somebody will add to it.
Just because the article fails to meet wp:POLITICIAN does not mean that the person won't meet wp:BIO on his/her own right.
The policy is explicitly written that A7 has a lower threshold than WP:N, thus people who delete this "because it will get deleted at AFD" are putting themselves above community consensus. The policy was written explicitly to ensure that articles like this are given a chance at AfD. It gives the author a chance to defend their work and to prove the individuals notability. Speedy Deleting this article may chase off potentially solid editors.