Template:Did you know nominations/Mandarin Oriental, Washington, D.C.
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The result was: rejected by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:05, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Reliability
Mandarin Oriental, Washington, D.C.
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- ... that the Institutional Investor magazine ranked the Mandarin Oriental Hotel as one of the top 100 hotels in the world?
Created/expanded by Thine Antique Pen (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Length, sourcing and hook all check out. But would you mind adding the name of the article you've reviewed, at the moment I see a list of ones reviewed previously? Mattythewhite (talk) 17:55, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I do not like the hook, it reads like an ad. It wouldn't grab my attention, on the contrary, I would be pretty suspicious about that claim. I think we all know about the reliability of magazines or websites rankings. The article has an "about" section, not common at all in wikipedia (an encyclopedia!), that often has an history and architecture section. The article has nothing on this, it's almost empty on useful information about the hotel, it reads like an ad. I'm not accusing anything, I've myself done the same mistake, because we use the hotel's website as sources. --Pedro (talk) 17:50, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Mandarin Oriental Hotel's CityZen restaurant is known to be "among the city's best", according to travel guide Frommer's?
- ALT2: ... that the Mandarin Oriental Hotel contains 400 bedrooms?
- Thanks! ⇒TAP 18:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think it would be worth mentioning where the quoted text from ALT1 is from, so perhaps something like "... that the Mandarin Oriental Hotel's CityZen restaurant is known to be "among the city's best", according to travel guide Frommer's"? Mattythewhite (talk) 18:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Added to ALT1. ⇒TAP 18:31, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
ALT1 checks out. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:15, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- It still reads like an advert. Why are we promoting this hotel on the front page? Secretlondon (talk) 00:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think it would be worth mentioning where the quoted text from ALT1 is from, so perhaps something like "... that the Mandarin Oriental Hotel's CityZen restaurant is known to be "among the city's best", according to travel guide Frommer's"? Mattythewhite (talk) 18:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- In addition to the issue of the hooks noted by Secretlondon, the sources are almost entirely commercial travel sites or the hotel itself. Two small facts—one about music sourced to one of the musicians and a blog entry about the hotel buying green power—are the only ones that come from different sites. There's no independent reliable sources to establish the hotel's notability. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:07, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
