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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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Barquq Castle

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Barquq Castle
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  • ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
  • Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the façade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).

  • @Onceinawhile: Please note that per a recent rule change, a QPQ must be provided at the time of the nomination or at most immediately after. The nomination may be failed without further warning if a QPQ is not provided as soon as possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Full review needed now the QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

article is long enough, new enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is complete. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

  • @Onceinawhile:@Gonzo fan2007: This hook implies that all of these things (the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret) are no longer standing as of 2024. However, it doesn't necessarily say that in the article, just that the site was vaguely "damaged". If we know to what extent, and if we know that all those things are indeed no longer standing, then this hook is fine, that just needs to be mentioned sourced in the article. If not the hook may need to be tweaked somewhat to reflect the fact we don't know what parts are standing or not. Kimikel (talk) 14:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
@Kimikel: thank you for raising this. The hook was written before the article was complete, so it was intentionally vague as to what happened during the war as we had not quite figured it out. Following further research, the article now says "The castle was damaged during the Israel–Hamas war." UNESCO have verified damage to the site, and the images in this article show what is standing and what is damaged. I suggest we amend the hook to:
Onceinawhile (talk) 18:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
@Onceinawhile: Okay, so 637 appears to come from 2024-1387, which a) would need a citation for 1387 (and given that this could conceivably be late 1387 and early 2024, I'm not even sure that's adequate); b) "the ... Yunis" is cruising for a pruning per WP:DYKTRIM, and c) given Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 203#Negative Israel hooks you should very seriously consider merging this with Old City of Gaza, i.e. some variant of ALT2: ... that the Old City of Gaza, the Old City of Nablus, and the 600-year-old Barquq Castle have all been damaged by the Israel-Hamas War?--Launchballer 11:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks Launchballer. The 1387 is sourced twice in the article, most precisely in the inscription section. The Arabic inscription at the top of the gateway dates it 789 AH (ar:789 هـ) which is technically 1387-88. Perhaps better to say “over 600-year-old” or similar.
The proposed merger doesn’t work because Nablus has nothing to do with Hamas. I have already merged two into one, I don’t think three into one is workable - particularly as two are cities with many historical monuments and the other is just a single monument (if the only truly historical monument in Khan Yunis) - but happy to hear further proposals.
Onceinawhile (talk) 21:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@Onceinawhile: How about "14th-century"?--Launchballer 00:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
@Launchballer: that works perfectly. So it would be:
Onceinawhile (talk) 08:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Fine by me, and as I've introduced no new information let's roll.--Launchballer 13:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
It's not entirely clear to me what "the eponymous historical monument" means Onceinawhile? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi @AirshipJungleman29: the other name for Barquq Castle is Khan Yunis.
Yunis was a local leader under Sultan Barquq. Castle (or "qalat") is the local and common name for what is here actually a Khan (an inn for travellers).
Later a town built up around this "Khan Yunis". The town was named after the building, hence "eponymous".
Onceinawhile (talk) 21:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
The article says the town was named after the official, not the castle named after the official. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi @AirshipJungleman29: I have clarified the drafting. Thanks for pointing this out. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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