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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 15:00, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

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Artemy Vedel

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  • ... that choral music of Artemy Vedel, who is regarded as one of the Golden Three composers of 18th-century Ukrainian classical music, was censored but performed from handwritten copies? Source: [1]
    • Reviewed: to come
    • Comment: I just met this article. Other hook suggestions welcome.

Improved to Good Article status by Amitchell125 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:51, 23 August 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - ?

QPQ: No - pending
Overall: Two issues: I'm not sure why, but in the article 'Golden Three' is always given in single quotation marks, yet in the current hook it is not. I'm also thinking that a shorter hook might be better, as without the relative clause it reads easier (and gives his music a sort of "rebel" image; I mean how many composers of choral music were performed only in secret?). In general, I like the hook very much though, and couldn't find a better one.

The second issue is a question only, and that is have you considered whether you'd like this picture of one of the manuscripts to go with the nom? I'm not sure, but maybe (example pictured) could go after the "choral music". --LordPeterII (talk) 19:29, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the review! I would not mind the single quotation marks but believe it's clear by the capital letters. I believe the clause explains that we talk Russian censorship without being too explicit. I gave up suggesting images of music, - they don't show well in small size, and are usually rejected. - I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Walter E. H. Cockle. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Sorry for randomly pinging you, but you seem to be quite active and experienced around here: Would you approve this picture to go with the hook if it was your call? Because I thought I would, but was made to rethink just now when reading Gerda Arendt's reply. --LordPeterII (talk) 22:04, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
I don't think the image would work in this case. It's too small. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:48, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Well, fine, then no picture. I'd prefer single quotation marks around the 'Golden Three', but I'd leave that to the promoter since I'm not sure if it would be preferred by policy.
QPQ provided, and AGF on the sources in Cyrillic script. --LordPeterII (talk) 08:30, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment I like the hook as-is. A minor question, though: the article specifies that the handwritten scores were often heavily modified. Should that be reflected? I'd guess not, since it would make the hook longer. But I'd like to see what others think. Radzy0 (talk) 21:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
  • I'm going to shorten the hook to:
    • ALT1: ... that censored music of Artemy Vedel was performed from handwritten copies?
-- RoySmith (talk) 14:57, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
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