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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: by Allen3 talk 15:29, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator

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Ardeth Platte

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  • Comment: Here is the reliable in-line source for the hook.

Created by Salvidrim! (talk). Self nominated at 23:49, 13 June 2014 (UTC).

  • See my reply on my talk page concerning the content which was inspired in part by an existing paragraph. I was honestly unaware of the similar DYK, though... I'm willing to consider providing an alternative hook, although I believe it remains appropriate for both subjects, and the two year span since the previous one avoid concerns of rapid repitition. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 02:43, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Given that the previous hook for Carol Gilbert ran in mid-2012, it should be fine to run a similar hook now. 97198 (talk) 07:06, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
  • To be eligible for DYK as a new article, the minimum 1500 characters of article content should be new to Wikipedia, not copied from another Wikipedia article. As Guerillero pointed out, this short article is almost entirely copied from existing articles, so it's not eligible. --Orlady (talk) 20:56, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Please see the thread on my talk page on why I believe that although the content is partly inspired from another existing article, it passes any Wikipedia policy or guideline on originality of content. If you point out any specific issue it would be my pleasure to further rewrite the text, but considering that the content is about the same subject (as a group of three nuns), there is only so much one can do to use different words. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 21:44, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I have looked at the nom article and the two articles which allegedly contain duplicated material or close paraphrasing. I have found only one paragraph in each article which I think is relevant here. The paragraph is not identical in all three articles (i.e. it is not copy and paste), but it contains similar information and some close paraphrasing. I copy the three versions below: --Storye book (talk) 12:30, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Ardeth Platte: In 2000, Platte and two fellows nuns, Sisters Jackie Hudson and Carol Gilbert, illegally entered Peterson Air Force Base and sprayed a fighter plane with their own blood. The three women were arrested and held in prison until the charges were dropped. In 2002, the same group of nuns broke into a Minuteman III missile silo in Colorado. They wore white jump suits bearing the words "Citizen Weapon Inspection Team", and proceeded to pray in front of the silo as they poured their own blood on it in the shape of a cross. The nuns were arrested and had to wait laying on the ground for hours. They continued protesting into their pre-trial hearing; wearing full habits, the nuns answered the judge by nodding without speaking. At the start of their trial, Robert E. Blackburn, the presiding judge, granted an in limine motion to the prosecutor, which prevented the nuns from arguing that their actions were legal under international law and the Nuremberg defense. The nuns were sentenced to between 30 and 41 months in prison.

Jackie Hudson: In 2000, Hudson and two other nuns, sisters Carol Gilbert and Ardeth Platte, snuck onto Peterson Air Force Base and sprinkled blood on a fighter plane. The group was arrested and held in a federal prison until the charges were dropped because there was no lasting damage was done to the airplane.[7] Gilbert claimed that the base was part of the "Star Wars" defense system and the government did not want to draw unnecessary attention to the area. In 2002, the same group of nuns gained access to a Minuteman III missile silo in Colorado.[10] Wearing white hazmat suits emblazoned with "Citizen Weapon Inspection Team," they pounded on the missile, drew a cross in their own blood and prayed for peace.[11][12] At their pre-trial hearing, the nuns, dressed in full habits, engaged in silent protest by only answering the judge with a nod.[13] When their trial came about, the presiding judge, Robert E. Blackburn, granted an in limine motion to the prosecutor preventing the nuns from arguing that their actions were legal under international law and the Nuremberg defense. The group was sentenced to between 31 and 40 months for obstructing national defense and damaging government property. The sister's appeal was rejected in 2005 by the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals.[10]

Carol Gilbert: In 2000, Gilbert and two other nuns, Sisters Jackie Hudson and Ardeth Platte, illegally entered Peterson Air Force Base and sprinkled blood on a fighter plane.[3] The group was arrested and held in a federal prison until the charges were dropped. In 2002, the same group of nuns entered a Minuteman III missile silo in Colorado.[4] Clad in white jump suits emblazoned with "Citizen Weapon Inspection Team," the group drew a cross in their own blood, banged on the silo, and prayed. The nuns were arrested and left on the ground for three hours.[5] Their protest spilled over into their pre-trial hearing. Clad in full habits, the nuns answered the judge with a nod.[6] At their trial, the presiding judge, Robert E. Blackburn, granted an in limine motion to the prosecutor. This prevented the nuns from arguing that their actions were legal under international law and the Nuremberg defense. The nuns were sentenced to between 30 and 41 months in prison. Due to their activism, in 2005 and 2006 Gilbert and Platte were labeled as terrorists by the state of Maryland.[7][8]

  • I have read Salvidrim!'s talkpage discussion, and I understand that doing re-writes is difficult - but it is still close paraphrasing of the same information. Because the Ardeth Platte paragraph constitutes such a large proportion of the article text, in my opinion this nom does not qualify for DYK. --Storye book (talk) 12:30, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Alright, alright. Withdrawn ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:06, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
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