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Zhao Chongguo is currently a Warfare good article nominee. Nominated by Generalissima (talk) (it/she) at 06:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Short description: Chinese general (137–52 BCE)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Hilst talk 14:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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... that general Zhao Chongguo's appointment to manage parklands incidentally gave him control over the Han dynasty's coinage production?

Source: Dreyer, Edward L. (July 2008). de Crespigny, Rafe (ed.). "Zhao Chongguo: A Professional Soldier of China's Former Han Dynasty". The Journal of Military History. 72 (3). doi:10.1353/jmh.0.0028. pp. 673–675

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Darryl De Sousa

Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 95 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

New enough (moved to mainspace Dec 24), long enough (19 kB), well-sourced, no copyvio. Hook fact verified in source, which says he "controlled the government monopoly on copper coinage, since the mint was conveniently located within the park," so the hook might have to specify "copper". Hook is super interesting. More governments should do that. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:28, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 06:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Borsoka (talk · contribs) 02:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Image review

~~Could you add two or more pictures (including a map) to the article.~~ Borsoka (talk) 02:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I found a Qing dynasty portrait of him and dug up two related images that might work okay. - G
File:Zhao Chongguo, Gu Shengxian Xiang Zhuanlüe (cropped).png: US PD is needed; could the source be more specific? (I guess a book is cited but the portrait itself may be earlier and by an other author; the book must have a publisher)
File:Han Expansion.png: a source is needed.
- Couldn't find a good one, so removed that map. Seems like theres not a lot of firmly cited maps of the Han Dynasty at the moment :( - G

Source review

Academic sources of high standard, including a monography about Zhao Chonggo are cited. Tertiary sources are also cited, but the article is primarily based on secondary sources.
~~Vankeerberghen (2021): place of publication is missing (even if it is trivial).~~ Borsoka (talk) 02:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. - G

Comments

...served as Advisory Counselor... Whom or where? (In the imperial court?)
- Clarified. - G
...but had committed some grave offense... Why past perfect?
- Fair point - changed to normal past tense. - G
The "Six Commanderies"... Some explanation? (For instance, was Longxi one of them?)
- I have a footnote here for this, but I made it explicitly say Longxi too. - G
...as the administration of the region had been recently established... I am not sure I understand it.
- Rephrased. - G
... in the capital of Chang'an... The capital of what?
- Clarified. - G
...against the Xiongnu I would clarify that this happened in the north.
- Good point, clarified. - G
... in recognition of his bravery I would delete.
- Removed. - G
Zhao likely served as chief of staff to Grand General Huo Guang... I would rephrase to avoid the repetition of the title.
- Rephrased. - G
...succeeding dictatorship Some context or a footnote?
- Added a footnote. - G
Why was Liu He deposed and why did Zhao support the coup?
- Added context. - G
...the good graces of the administration The administration?
- Rephrased. - G
...Qiang Xianlian tribe... I would rephrase for more clarity: "the Qiang tribe of the Xianlian"
- Rephrased. - G
Introduce Dunhuang, Shanshan and Jiuquan.
- Done. - G
...the offices of the Chancellor and Imperial Secretary... I am not sure I understand.
- Rephrased. - G
...to the emperor's approval I would delete it.
- Done. -G
...who decapitated... Why not future in the past?
- Tweaked. -G
However, many of these troops had likely joined Zhao Chongguo's forces. Some context?
- Clarified with a footnote. - G
...was urged to stay on the offense By whom?
- Clarified. - G
...defended himself to his son,... Is this necessary?
- Removed. - G
Around July 60... Year?
- Huh? That is the year. - G
..., where he managed... Where?
- Clarified. - G
Introduce Wang Mang. Borsoka (talk) 03:31, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. -G
...where they had previously been expelled Why not "from where"?
- Better phrasing yeah, fixed. -G

@Borsoka: There we go, made fixes. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 07:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]