Talk:Zbrojovka Z 4

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Date	Process	Result
May 5, 2024	Good article nominee	Not listed
August 22, 2024	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 5, 2024.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Zbrojovka Z 4 was the first Czechoslovak mass-produced car with front-wheel drive?

Current status: Good article

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GA Review

Unsuccessful. 750 h+ 06:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: CosXZ (talk · contribs) 17:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: 750h+ (talk · contribs) 06:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this @CosXZ:.

Comments

CosXZ, I'm sorry but I'm going to have to fail this nomination. Prose needs shaping up. But I will leave some comments:

The Zbrojovka Z 4, nicknamed the "Strong Four", was a small passenger car produced in 1933–1936 by the company Zbrojovka Brno. ==> The Zbrojovka Z 4, nicknamed the "Strong Four", is a small passenger car that was produced from 1933 to 1936 by the company Zbrojovka Brno.
"A total of 2750 cars were produced in five series" inconsistency; why is it "2750" here but "2,750 somewhere else.
"In the early 1930s, Zbrojovka Brno produced the Z 9 type, a car which sales results did not meet expectations." read that again

I recommend you take this to WP:GOCE, because it absolutely has the potential to be a Good Article. Best and best of luck, 750 h+ 06:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

Passed. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: CosXZ (talk · contribs) 18:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: TheNuggeteer (talk · contribs) 03:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing this article for WP:GARC, short and nice. Watch out for possible comments! 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 03:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here are my comments:

"After the Z 9 sales results", "sales results" isn't neccesary, you can remove it.
"prototype was designed", after was, you can add "later".
You can split history by history before the car and after. Before the car will be "background", and after the production, it will be history.
"the first series, of 500 cars, was sold out before its production" remove the commas and change where to was.
"which began in May 1933." what do you mean by this sentence?
"Between 1933 and 1936, four more production series, of successively improved versions, followed." Remove the 2nd and 3rd comma, and remove "of successively improved versions"
A bit confused by ref 3, isn't it supposed to link to a source?
"In 1934, a series of five racing cars was created" change was to were.
If you want, change "Technical description" to "design".
"The engine is equipped with battery ignition, the electrical" add "and" after the comma.
"In front of the front axle" can cause confusion, remove the second "front". like "In front of the axle".
There's a lot of information in source 5, you can add more.
I see this source, this source, and this source, you can add these]

Done with the review, putting this on hold, hope you can fix this and eventually promote this to a good article! 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNuggeteer Done all Cos ^{(X + Z)} 21:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Rollinginhisgrave

Hi, I'll add a few comments as I'm also participating in GARC.

using a license from the car manufacturer DKW What is this license?
develop a car on the same concept without using DKW's patented solutions awkward, rw
by a group of designers who were redundant
The Z 4 became the... produced in 1934 sentences are too choppy here
A series of five racing cars were produced in 1934 What has this got to do with it?
1933-1936 use ndash
The lede's paraphrasing of the body is too close. WP:CLOP
was a success, use semicolon
The production of the car was terminated by a decision of -> Production was terminated by
chassis link
production from April -> produced
More wikilinks in the Engine and transmission section

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 05:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rollinginhisgrave done most of the comments Cos ^{(X + Z)} 21:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CosXZ: You still need to fix problem no. 2, 3, 9, and 11. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:37, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNuggeteer @Rollinginhisgrave I think I fixed all the issues. Is there any more comments that you guys want to ask Cos ^{(X + Z)} 17:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Passing the article. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by TheNuggeteer talk 12:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A 1936 Zbrojovka Z 4 at a classic car show

... that the Zbrojovka Z 4 (pictured) is the first Czechoslovak car with front-wheel drive?

Source: Kuba, Adolf; Spremo, Milan (1989). Atlas našich automobilů 3: 1929–1936 (1 ed.). NADAS. pp. 135–137. ISBN 80-7030-049-3.

Reviewed:
Comment: This Dyk nomination is my first one so please be patient with me

Improved to Good Article status by CosXZ (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Cos ^{(X + Z)} 16:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'll take this one.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: From what I can tell, this looks good. Personally, I would rephrase it as "... that the Zbrojovka Z 4 (pictured) was the first Czechoslovak mass-produced car with front-wheel drive?", but it's either or. Nothing else to say, I don't think. AdoTang (talk) 02:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]