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Nominator: Nascar9919 (talk · contribs) 04:57, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 17:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

I'll get on with this today! --K. Peake 17:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

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  • Ref is not needed when the songwriters are sourced in the prose
  • Mention in the opening sentence it is from her her debut extended play, P.O.P. (2024)
  • "It was co-written by" → "The song was co-written by" and shouldn't you mention how many producers there was too?
  • "and released on" → "It was released on" as a new sentence and change to simply reading "from the EP" as this should have already been introduced earlier on
  • Add a sentence at the end of the first paragraph mentioning how the song was created from selecting a few snippets from the 200 submissions
  • "to tell the "real characteristics"" – the quote is not sourced at all, so re-word to something like "to against the stereotypes" per the body
  • "The song was met with a" → "The song received a"
  • "it peaked within the top ten" → "the song peaked within the top 10" per MOS:NUM

Background and composition

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  • Add a second sentence sourcing the producers because there are the infobox but not written out at all in the body as they should be
  • Wiwibloggs should not be italicised
  • "with the die" → "with the refrain"

Music video

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  • "an accompanying music video was" → "a music video was" with the wikilink
  • "an Australian tourist[14] while" → "an Australian tourist,[14] while"
  • "with the tourist presented in the video representing" → "with the tourist presented representing"
  • "stating that "my dream" → "expressing "my dream"
  • I do not think Overthinking It is a reliable source – appears this is a fiction podcast from their website
  • I personally disagree with this; the video itself tries to use supporting interviews given out by Satti (along with translations) and news articles to help give out a pretty thorough analysis of the song. The website themself says that all they try to do is try to analyze popular culture. They've also done other analyses on other Eurovision songs that what I feel to be in pretty in-depth and well researched. Feel free to let me know your further thoughts. Cheers! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 22:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception

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Greek media and personalities

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  • I think the first quote can be re-worded after the "didn't send a song" part to mention something like how it lacked clear rhythms and a trap genre or any other genre
  • Put Dimitris Rigopoulos' quote into your own words from "something that they seem" onwards
  • Not sure about Matt Wrather usage since he is from Overthinking It
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  • Wiwibloggs should not be italicised or linked
  • ESC Bubble should not be italicised
  • "rated the song tenth out" → "rated the song 10th out" per MOS:NUM, although this is the 11th place unless I'm missing something here?
  • "this year" but also" → "this year", but also"
  • ESC Beat should not be italicised
  • "in some cases."" → "in some cases"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • ESC Insight should not be italicised
  • "23rd overall" → should be introduced as among the Eurovision songs since this is a new para and put more of this into your own words
  • "in their ten favourites" → "in her ten favourites"

Eurovision Song Contest

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Internal selection

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At Eurovision

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  • The source does not mention the Malmo Arena, only the city itself
  • ESC Insight should not be italicised
  • "on 11 May." → "on 11 May 2024."
  • "never plays an actually important role" is this the correct quote since the source does not display or is my translator faulty? Either way, cite the ref at the end of this sentence since it uses a direct quote
  • Same as above for the "as if" quote
  • "she finished in" → "Satti finished in"
  • "final was good."" → "final was good"." per MOS:QUOTE

Commercial performance

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  • "It peaked on" → "The song peaked on"
  • Shouldn't you identify as the Billboard Greece Songs chart?
  • "also received Diamond certification" → "also received a diamond streaming certification" yet this is not sourced by the archive
  • "the top ten" → "the top 10" per MOS:NUM, however I would suggest changing this to number eight and the Lithuania position to number 20 since these are the only two top 20 positions in prose so are fine to be written out exactly

Track listings

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  • The length of the live from Peristeri version is sourced as 3:14

Charts

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  • Greece Local position is not backed up by the source

Certifications

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  • The certification is not backed up by the source

Release history

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  • The regions being set as various need multiple citations to back this up

References

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  • Copyvio score looks strong at 20%!!!
  • Refs 1 and 29 should cite Eurovision Fun as publisher instead
  • Cite Eurovision World as publisher instead on ref 2
  • Ditto on ref 5 and fix MOS:QWQ issues
  • Cite Wiwibloggs as publisher instead on refs 6, 7, 8, 9, 21, 28, 32, 38 and 39
  • Cite Eurovoix as publisher instead on refs 10 and 11
  • Cite Aussievision as publisher instead on refs 14 and 52
  • Remove or replace ref 15 since Overthinking It does not strike me as reliable
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 16, 18 and 40
  • Fix MOS:QWQ, MOS:CAPS issues, remove the author and cite Wiwibloggs on ref 20
  • Cite ESC Bubble as publisher instead on ref 22
  • Cite ESC Beat as publisher instead on refs 23 and 36
  • Cite ESC Insight as publisher instead on ref 24
  • Fix MOS:CAPS issues and cite Eurovision Fun as publisher on ref 27
  • Cite ESCplus España as publisher instead on refs 30 and 33
  • Remove Eurovision Song Contest from refs 31 and 44
  • Cite Hellenic Broadcasting Corporation as publisher instead on refs 34 and 35
  • Cite Apple Music as publisher instead on refs 53 and 54
  • The primary sources should add various citations to back this up in numerous countries

Final comments and verdict

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