Talk:Yang Jianli
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No citations
[edit]There's not a single citation in this article, except to something the subject wrote.
At least the bit about him being "blacklisted" deserves a source and some elaboration.
Son of eugene (talk) 03:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Add citations
Heey, you are totally right! I added some citations for the article, but some passages are still without (Petitioning by lawmakers and academics). But I can´t find a good one for "...,who also refused to renew his passport." Greetings to the wiki community :) --Princheeseanastasia (talk) 10:37, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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Significant neutrality, style, grammatical, and formatting issues
[edit]Four classes of issues on this article:
Neutrality
Frequent references to China violating international law, to the point where it's redundant and serves little more than poster-signing and gaslighting:
He was detained when trying to board a domestic flight, and held incommunicado by the Chinese in violation of their own and international law. His wife and children, as well as his extended family, were denied access and were concerned for his health and safety while he was in prison. The advocacy group Freedom Now took up his case. On May 28, 2003, United Nations working group on arbitrary detention ruled that Yang Jianli has been held by the Chinese government in violation of international law
Some additional issues with this excerpt alone:
- Does it really matter if his family (specifically) was "concerned for his health and safety" - and if so, can it be rewritten to reduce the pathos in the sentence (i.e. "his detainment caused concern for his well-being" etc.)
- UN working groups cannot "rule" this-or-that; they can only find some fact or finding. The use of the word "rule" creates a false sense of legal and moral objectivity and superiority, a notable characteristic not of neutral writing but of political propaganda.
- Boarding a flight using forged documentation is unlawful practically everywhere. From whence does "violating... [Chinese] and international law" come into the calculus?
Separate excerpts:
- On August 4, 2003, the United States called on China to free Yang - what does "free" mean? Ought there not be more specificity with respect to the exact request or demand put forth by the United States?
- Reminded of his experience with the June 4, Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 for freedom of speech and democracy, Yang's recent article in the Washington Post shortly after his return to United States reflects his vivid observation of the 2007 Burmese anti-government protests, spiritually coined as Saffron Revolution, including China's 'parasitic relationship with Burma' and the genuine will of freedom loving intellectuals around the world condemning the current brutal oppressions in Burma - aside from the fact that one can barely understand the contents of this quote, the present use of such terminology is blatantly analytical and demonstrates clear political leaning.
I also note that the sources used in this article are right-leaning and typically borderline extremist sources of dubious accuracy and questionable standing. Many could use a source review.
Style
Frequent problems with citations in the middle of sentences and in confusing locations otherwise inconsistent with the MOS.
Grammar
This is a big one.
On April 10, 2006, 119 US lawmakers urged Bush to raise Yang Jianli's case. Same year September 3, Yang Jianli was released on condition that he must leave from China immediately. But he insisted that he return to his hometown to sweep his father's tomb first. As a result, he was sent back to jail from the airport
Reminded of his experience with the June 4, Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 for freedom of speech and democracy, Yang's recent article in the Washington Post shortly after his return to United States reflects his vivid observation of the 2007 Burmese anti-government protests, spiritually coined as Saffron Revolution, including China's 'parasitic relationship with Burma' and the genuine will of freedom loving intellectuals around the world condemning the current brutal oppressions in Burma
In March 2018, Yang was invited to speak by advocacy group UN Watch in the UN Human Rights Council but Chinese diplomat Chen Cheng repeatedly interrupted in a failed attempt to halt the address. There, questioned the Chinese Communist Party's right to represent China at the UN body as well as the country's human rights abuses
Formatting
This is a bit rich, but there are frequent formatting issues littering the article. Augend (drop a line) 04:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Wrong birth date?
[edit]Wasn't he actually born on July 15, not August 15? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 07:34, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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