Talk:Wrongful conviction of Andrew Malkinson

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Requested move 7 August 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 03:53, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Malkinson → Wrongful conviction of Andrew Malkinson – His wrongful conviction is the notable topic here, especially if we consider scholarly sources (WP:BESTSOURCES). There is precedent for this naming scheme, see Wrongful conviction of David Camm, Wrongful conviction of Alan Hall, and Wrongful conviction of Steve Titus. DFlhb (talk) 11:51, 7 August 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as this doesn't appear to be the general rule with other overturned convictions in the UK. If we were to move it to anything I would suggest Andrew Malkinson case as a more suitable alternative. See Robert Brown case, Andrew Evans case and Sara Thornton case for examples, although it's worth bearing in mind those articles probably have the case suffix as a way of distinguishing them from other similarly named people. This is Paul (talk) 22:40, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good point; though "case" doesn't seem to be a general rule either, I could only find 4 such titles for the UK. I think my main problem is that "case" doesn't seem fair to the subjects, as it hints at wrongdoing, even if obliquely. For what it's worth (admittedly not much), our titles are prominently featured on Google. Aren't they now better known for the injustice than for the cases themselves, which are long closed, and closed the wrong way? The redirect could make up for the longer title. DFlhb (talk) 00:55, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support a move away from the BLP title, since the notability attaches to the conviction & process around that, not the man himself (qv the extremely limited biographical details reported in sources vs the blow-by-blow accounts we're getting of the CPS's decisionmaking). No opinion on whether we should go for Wrongful conviction of Andrew Malkinson, Andrew Malkinson case, etc - either is an improvement. Polyphemus Goode (talk) 10:53, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to Wrongful conviction of Andrew Malkinson, because this is what this article is about. Oppose a move to Andrew Malkinson case because I agree with the comment above that such a title hints at wrongdoing, even if obliquely. Sweet6970 (talk) 16:49, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support a move to Wrongful conviction of Andrew Malkinson. – GnocchiFan (talk) 00:41, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.